marjorie taylor greene knew this, which is why she tried to reinvent herself. you think she is not going to be even more outrageous, even more despicable than before? now she has power. on a committee, she shouldn't be anywhere near. yet, here we go. i fear, this desensitizes people to extremism that has become the republican party. that is my fear. there is nothing normal about this. it is an existential threat to our democracy, functionally properly. >> the other side of that, the other argument one could make, tim, and i saw some reporting on the white house along these lines, basically, is there was a reason that kevin mccarthy rushed to try to distance from steve king. he understood they were offensive, and probably toxic to a lot of median voters and need to win over. marjorie taylor greene, with a big high-profile proposition in the oversight committee, where she will be the viral news star of her question time, i'm not sure that, it's probably, the best thing for the republican party writ large. >> of course it is not. he's looking at this in the two-ye

he was talking about marjorie taylor greene. one of kevin mccarthy's marriage vows in his political marriage to marjorie taylor greene another republican extremists in the house is that he will fire congressman adam schiff, and congresswoman -- of course, the big problem with him firing a member of congress is the constitution. he can't do it. what he meant, when raising money on the idea that he would fire these members of congress, is that you would prevent them from serving on the intelligence committee, and the foreign affairs committee. today, the house minority leader, hakeem jeffries, struck back at kevin mccarthy for trying to deliver vengeance two and four marjorie taylor greene by knocking these three democrats, who will join us in a moment, off of these committees. leader jeffries address this issue of the intelligence committee specifically because the speaker of the house does have the final approval of that committee. because it is a select committee, and he has the final approval of the members of both parties of

marjorie taylor greene no longer wants to be known as the person who did and said all that.r, a member of the good standing new republican house majority. and guess what? kevin mccarthy is helping her with that. the new york times has extensively reported about the ironclad bond mccarthy has developed with greene, and unlikely ally in his battle for political survival. they described as a relationship borne of political expediency, but fueled by genuine crime audrey. in an interview, mccarthy described what he liked so much about his colleague, saying quote, if you're gonna be in a fight, you want marjorie in your foxhole. when she fix picks a, fight she's gonna fight it until it's over. she reminds me of my friends from my high school, but we're gonna stick together all the way through. it's interesting, marjorie taylor greene boasted about the fact that he planned january six, they would have been armed, and it would have been successful. mccarthy has also told allies that he was impressed that the congresswoman quickly became known by her initials, quote, she knows what s

and now, people like marjorie taylor greene, essentially, run the house republican caucus.york times reported, they fear kevin mccarthy's record on the interview does. and that includes people like paul gosar, who posted animated video, depicting him killing a fellow number of congress, alexandra ocasio-cortez. and andy biggs who helps donald trump to try to overturn the 2020 election. and matt gaetz, who brought a holocaust in higher in his address. these are not popular political figures outside of their own deep red district and echo chambers, sometimes even within them, to be honest. allowing these folks to take over your party's agenda may be risky, it could be substantively and politically disastrous. there is a reason why john boehner and paul ryan didn't quite do it. they tried to give them a little bit in check. it's not an abstract idea, right? we saw what happened when the extreme far-right tried to take over in last year's midterm elections. it was a debacle for the republican party. it is why mccarthy has had a narrow majority. in fact, we now have some new evi

a corrupt bargain with marjorie taylor greene. someone who declared on january five that the day before the attack. that this was 1770. six somebody who cheered on the insurrectionists. i think it is really important in all of our cases to remember that it is not the accusations that mccarthy is making. against us. that is pushing for a removal from these committees. it is about revenge. it is about the appeasing of the former president. all three of us have been a thorn in the back of the previous disclosed president. >> now we know for a fact that kevin mccarthy made all sorts of promises. when marjorie taylor greene, simple grocers of the party. in order to win the gavel for 14 votes. now he's trying to cross off one of those items on his to do list. that said, it is not clear if he will succeed with a vote against ilhan omar. here is why, remember, a narrow majority. to republicans, nancy mace of south carolina. i've already said publicly that they will not vote to remove congresswoman omar from the committee. today congresswo

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and marjorie taylor greene will get a seat on homeland security. george santos, of all people, he was actually assigned to the signs and small business committees. back with us tonight to discuss, two of our favorites, juanita tolliver, a veteran political strategist for progressive candidates and causes -- and tim miller is here, contributor to the bulwark and former communications director for george bush. tim, i'm just going to share a small portion of what got marjorie taylor greene kicked off the committee -- harassing school shooting survivors -- and speculating that california wildfires were started by jewish space lasers. that lineup, and she ends up on homeland security. what is your reaction? >> both her and gosar and ashley got in trouble for their relationship with white supremacist nick fuentes and the america first -- not to use groupies running down there -- went to mar-a-lago with trump. what sign does that send, again, to people of color? to the rest of the country? to people of good faith of any color who don't want to support a p

as did marjorie taylor green. at the far right america first political action conference organized by white nationalist trump dinner companion nick fuentes where this happened. >> can we give a round of applause for russia? absolutely. absolutely. >> in addition to the house oversight committee, marjorie got a plum spot on the -- i wish i were making this up -- homeland security committee. so even though the department of homeland security and the fbi have repeatedly said that white supremacists are the biggest domestic terrorism threat to our country, kevin mccarthy gave someone who speaks at their conferences a seat on the committee that oversees homeland security. but marjorie green doesn't just pal around with threats to national security. she is a security threat herself. recall this from her precongress days as a troll. >> you are using your lobby and the money behind it and the kids to take away my second amendment right. you don't have anything to say for yourself? he's a coward. he can't say one word beca

look, gosar and marjorie taylor greene were kicked off committees in marjory -- 2021 because they supportretend that's not the case. they support terrorism. they supported the men and women who stormed the capitol and tried to kill their colleagues. if there's any reason to kick you out of the club, it should be trying to murder other people in the club. or at least, providing aid and comfort to the people trying to murder other people in the club. there's no legitimate reason to get -- kick either of them off the intelligence committee. if the -- if anything it's, to lock out people heard primarily's concerned about the country from lining the dangerous that either colleagues on the committee provide to this country. it doesn't surprise me, but again, stephanie, this is just the beginning. these are not serious people. he's not people concerned about running the government. these are people who are primarily engaged in a slow-moving insurrection. and so, the idea of petty personal rivalries pales in comparison to the fact that you will now have people who are actively apart of trying to

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. >> marjorie taylor greene taps the -- two attack science. a new admission from george santos about the questionable source of campaign funds, and charging decisions loom in georgia, andrew weissmann on when we might expect justice for donald trump, when all in starts, right now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. kevin mccarthy and his maga republican caucus are gearing up for their first high stakes floor vote since the election of speaker. in case you forget or blocked it out, that did not go great. it took 15 tries for mccarthy to win the gavel, breaking a more than 100 year old record. and so now they are ready for the next big one. could it be their plan to curve inflation, fulfilling the campaign promise of so many republicans around on midterms across the country? no, of course not. it's a vengeful plot to kick democratic congresswoman ilhan omar of minnesota off the foreign affairs committee. the roots of this gradual back to 2019, within congressman steve king, a republican from iowa, lost his committee seat after repeated

it is cutting off on a clean debt bill, and is understanding how this works, marjorie. bills that is already created, not new spending. this is going through the credit card of the country, and in the eight trillion dollars that is between 2016, in 2020. stop with the stupid. this is kevin's problem. he has to figure it out. >> it sure is. no doubt, there is big corporate donors ringing him all day, every day, and saying, get your house in order, or we will stop the checks. amy mcgrath, michael steele, great to see you both. when we come back, twitter having a big garage sale, as elon musk struggles to pay the bills. trump's fight for social media come back, as my dear friend, kara swisher, talked about it all, when the 11th hour, continues. hour, continues. (tony hawk) skating for over 45 years has taken a toll on my body. i take qunol turmeric because it helps with healthy joints and inflammation support. why qunol? it has superior absorption compared to regular turmeric. qunol. the brand i trust. before dexcom g6, my diabetes was out of control. i was tired. not havi

he really likes marjorie taylor greene.nse ambition as steve bannon said to me. he paraphrased saying every time she looks in the mirror, sees a president staring back at her. a lot of obstacles. trump picking her being the normal thee. and winning the presidency all of which remain in doubt. >> who knew that steve bannon was a fan. when this individual looked in the mirror, they saw a president there. let me ask elise about this. give us your gut check on the potential for donald trump/marjorie taylor greene ticket. >> i think it's highly unlikely, but i do think that the fact that something that we're talking about and being quoted by steve bannon and people are curious and responding to it does show how she has captured the imagination of the far right of the republican party and the mainstream media, frankly. she has been such an incredible first term fundraiser and that's given her a lot of power within the republican caucus. so you look at how she had a strategic alliance with kevin mccarthy in his repeated speak er b

like marjorie taylor greene predates.n we used to write off subtle trump. when he was running for office, and everyone thought it was dope, and he would make it. he made it to the oval office. when i watch people like marjorie taylor greene saying that they want to potentially be -- i don't write that off. i actually think that's a very big concern, and we should be paid attention to this. she is clearly clambering for the attention. she put that out there so people, so that trump can see it, and then you keep it in the back of his mind. unfortunately for her, honestly, donald trump is a shallow human being. i don't think that she is going to meet the looks match for him. i hate to say that, but we know how shallow this man is. >> right, and she's elevating her attention by saying inflammatory things, smiles, doing all sorts of things to attention seek. and one of the areas where she has been successful in attention seeking isn't fundraising in the last election cycle. 12 point $5 million in the top ten of all house candi

we are going to see so much more of paul gosar, marjorie taylor greene, jim jordan and the whole crew. and they are dealing with self perpetuation in very narrow districts that involve their own political interests and national elections and and you topities autopsies are not what they are thinking about or what is good for the country. >> do you think that we'll default on our credit like when it comes down to the debt ceiling? i mean how an nihilistic do you think the republican party is will be to be? >> we're going to find out. hate to be ominous about it, but look, i think obviously democrats were thrilled pretty much with the election, midterm election results. they knew especially if they kept the senate, which they did, the amount of damage that the house could do was somewhat contained by the fact that, you know, it was a very small margin, but ultimately that the white house and the senate were democratic candidates. but the debt ceiling is the big glaring exception to this. is this a massive, massive threat. if they decide they don't want to play ball and they will be on st

think about marjorie taylor greene. a hugely successful small dollar donations which the base loves. even though both were barely got reelected, because she does come from actually a pretty mixed district, i do think that this could hurt them. they are majority so slim. kevin mccarthy is barely speaker. every unforced error could be a disaster for him. so i do actually think this is going to be a problem for them. and you have a lot of really wild gop house members, and a very slim majority. so i think there is going to be problems for them. >> quick last question to you then, you, on that note. kevin mccarthy, does he have the votes to finally get the speakers gavel that he so desperately craves? >> i don't know. and i don't think the republicans know, either. i think they're playing a very difficult game. republicans have not lined up behind him in a way that he clearly had hoped. people like matt gates and other freedom caucus members i think are going to be a real issue for him and clearly the compromise that is goi

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. >>> he once pushed 9/11 conspiracy theories, now marjorie taylor greene is sitting on a committee withto secrets. >>> george santos will sit on the small business committee. cnn this morning starts right now. >>> first, tragedy on the outskirts of ukrainian's capital. seven people are dead including ukraine's interior minister. four children are among the dead with 11 more being treated in the hospital. we're live at the scene in ukraine. what are you seeing clarissa? >> reporter: don, you can probably see behind me there are still rescue workers on the scene here. they have been combing through that building for hours trying to make sure there is nobody else inside because basically this is where the helicopter crashed. the building right behind me was clipped and then the helicopter nose dived into the playground. we know that all nine people on board the helicopter, including the interior minister, the deputy interior minister, the secretary of state, as well as six other on board, they were all killed immediately. also, among the dead children and parents who were just bringing the

marjorie is essentially the speaker of the house.s essentially the speaker of the house. matt gates is essentially the speaker of the house. when you have this kind of four seat majority, anyone member in your party controls the balance of power. he has to placate each and every one of them. marjorie taylor greene rallied people to kevin mccarthy's side. she was called the benedict arnold on the right for doing that. but he is leading a conspiracy caucus, to a great extent. if it weren't marjorie taylor greene, there's any number of other ones along those lines. she has a, if anything, become more of a mains dream member of this party. the mainstream gets defined a little bit more to the extreme with each election. >> george santos made up his entire life, but so did donald trump. donald trump was not a billionaire. he was not successful at running casinos and did not graduate first in his class in high school and college and didn't go to horton business school. none of that was true either. it strikes me that now that george santos

not so distant past from the marjorie taylor greenes and paul gosars of the world.ments -- just one person marjorie taylor greene and her past affinities, but her extreme views, they're not in the distant past. i recalled this morning in mid december, she's bragging about helping to organize the january 6th insurrection, and then she also said this. let me play this for everything. >> i have to tell you something. if we had organized that, we would have won. and not to mention it would have been armed. >> to the point that you were just discussing, you hear that, my question is, what happens when she goes there again? >> it's a great question. we don't know the answer to that. let me just tell you what one republican -- senior republican lawmaker said to me about the internal message from the speaker, let's bring them into the fold, let's give them jobs. if they have policy jobs, it will keep them busy and perhaps keep them away from the crazies. that's a very big risk, but it is something that clearly the leadership right now doesn't feel they have any other option

why he had to put marjorie taylor greene. let's be clear.land security committee. a committee formed in response to 9/11. republican front sylvania is now sitting on the oversight committee investigating the fbi. the fbi that subpoenaed his phone because of his possible involvement of the coup. this is absurd what the republicans are doing here with his committee assignments. it's all about owning the libs. of course, ilhan omar, i can imagine why they would want a black muslim woman democratic refugee from minnesota to not be on the foreign affairs committee. i can't imagine what's driving that. >> what do you think? >> you know, as we say in america, we don't negotiate with terrorists. if you are a republican senator kevin mccarthy, you reward them with committee assignments. i feel bad for 11. el morro valley she was a violent insurrectionists. unfortunately, she didn't support -- unfortunately, she doesn't put on weight supremacist history or theoretical life individuals to commit violence. unfortunately, she's not -- like marjorie taylo

taylor greene -- de facto speaker of the house marjorie taylor greene. today we gather what we must -- you show why we must -- everyone, michael fannone. [applause] >> thank you. thank you representative carl, representative cheryl, representative houlihan, and representative deluzio. courage for america,, defense, and the incredible group of veterans for being here today. particularly in light of the absolute chaos that is unfolding in the race speaker. but if i can guarantee one thing about the new house majority, it is this. this is just the beginning. this type of chaos will happen every single day in the house, as some of the most extreme politicians our country has ever seen hold our democracy hostage. i should know. tomorrow marks two years since the day i was died defending the capital from people who thought overthrowing the government was a good idea. in events felt like a wake up call for me and many others that political violence is real. the worst part is that our elected leaders allow this to happen. and to this week people who encouraged a

i want to make a point about marjorie taylor greene. president trump had nick fuentes at his beach club at mar-a-lago, that was a huge firestorm. we should remember marjorie taylor greene was on a stage with nick fuentes and hugged him and paul gosar spoke. none of them got mention. marjorie taylor greene considers herself a member in good standing and a member of mccarthy's leadership deal and that's not discussed among the things happening here but he's turning a blind eye to that and turning a blind eye to santos. it's only because he has no room for error. >> thanks one and all. appreciate it. >> doorbell camera revealing a shocking scene, a young child waving a handgun and pulling the trigger. what we learned when the child's father went to court. stay with us. with leading ultra-capacity 5g coverage. t-mobile for business has 5g that's ready y right now. every moment in life is a bet. like betting your favorite jersey won't shrink in the dryer. all customers get a no sweat same game parlay on the nfl playoffs this weekend. so bet

today, marjorie taylor greene got not one but two seats onto the most powerful committees it cook ratod to crude committee in the oversight committee. and republican congressman paul gosar,, conspiracy theorists who switched his vote at the 11th hour to kevin mccarthy, one who posted an anime video online showing him killing the congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez, the one that got him stripped of his committee assignments back in the day? paul gosar also coveted see on the powerful oversight committee. and then there is far-right republican and qanon support, congressman lauren boebert, who's pivotal, last-minute phones which allowed commit mccarthy to secure the speakers gavel who prefer to democratic represents to de ville and omar as a member of a quote, jihad squad. lauren boebert, also got to see on the oversight committee, which is the law with which the gop is planning to, with which the gop is planning to go after the biden administration with numerous political needed administrations. kevin mccarthy need a number of concessions to become speaker, we do not know all of the

to your, point, marjorie taylor greene was kicked off for a spouse and conspiracy theories. paul gosar was kicked off for essentially encouraging violence against members. >> yes no, i don't think so and you have the sometimes do what is right. send a message in that kind of behavior will not be tolerated. and it does not have the sort of precedent at the republican later took his job seriously on actually pointing people to committees. let's take marjorie taylor greene for example. she has some of that said 9/11 was an inside job. she will serve on the committee that was established after and the department to oversee the department that was established after 9/11 to keep the homeland safe. that is bonkers, that just does not even make sense. and i think it sends a message that like i said, marjorie taylor greene is now the face and the head and the neck of the republican party. >> congressman, your colleague richie torres wrote a piece for nbc news titled my car worker george santos is a distraction and danger to democracy. do you believe and is there anything that your co

marjorie taylor greene is the establishment.ot of times people in the media want to say the republican party is going through this fight between the old establishment and the maga types. that's over. that's analysis from ten years ago. the republican establishment now is marjorie taylor greene. she's the closest ally of kevin mccarthy. you have been covering "the new york times" reporting on that and how he sees her as his wing woman, basically. she was needed to get him over the line to the speakership. she's tied in with president trump -- former president trump. i think the two most powerful men right now in the republican party, the speaker of the house and the former president, she's on their speed dial list. i do think she represents what the party is now. that's represented in what kevin mccarthy has done also in these appointments in the committees. you have the covid committee, jackson and marjorie taylor greene on there, they were so crazy on covid that they were saying it was a hoax. jackson said the omicron variant w

, while president biden will continue to speak in wing dings. [ laughter ] georgia congresswoman marjorielor greene was assigned yesterday to the house committee on homeland security well, she does seem to know about attacks before they happen [ laughter ] the treasury department said that tomorrow, it will begin using extraordinary measures to keep the federal government running, which explains this new ebay listing [ laughter ] i think they made a terrible mistake adding free shipping [ laughter ] according to a new report, republican congressman george santos allegedly stole $3,000 from a gofundme campaign for a dying service dog that belonged to a disabled veteran, and then get this, he used the money to buy dog poison. [ light laughter ] now, again, halfway through that joke, i started thinking, "how do i think this is going to go?" [ laughter ] it's a bad joke, but is it as bad as what he did [ laughter ] still seems like you guys might think it's a tie [ laughter ] looks like i'm congress material [ laughter ] the justice department this week confirmed -- [ laughter ] the justice d

every day it is george santos or it is something about marjorie taylor greene or ordeal did you make in the back room. they are not talking about the things that most families really care about. it is hurting them right now, and the longer george santos is hanging out -- there by the way i do not think it will be long because the prosecutor in macy's a guy who has been evicted several times, never made any, money and all of a sudden he's rolling in dough. it will be very interesting to see how quickly he gets indicted for the money piece of this. forget about all the lies about whether he was or was not a drag performer, the point is that he lies about everything. but the big thing about the lies about his money. >> charles wall, one of things at nbc lure news learned last night around this time last night in the club with george santos is that he said that his karaoke song of choice is i will survive. the question is, will he survive on enough to be one of kevin mccarthy's votes on whatever kevin mccarthy thinks he's going to do with it at? sealing >> it's not clear to me. i'm actua

it is cutting off on a clean debt bill, and is understanding how this works, marjorie.ing through the credit card of the country, and in the eight trillion dollars that is between 2016, in 2020. stop with the stupid. this is kevin's problem. he has to figure it out. >> it sure is. no doubt, there is big corporate donors ringing him all day, every day, and saying, get your house in order, or we will stop the checks. amy mcgrath, michael steele, great to see you both. when we come back, twitter having a big garage sale, as elon musk struggles to pay the bills. trump's fight for social media come back, as my dear friend, kara swisher, talked about it all, when the 11th hour, continues. ues. created the share the love event as a way to help those who need it most. (kathryn) now, after this year's event, subaru and our retailers are proud to have donated over two hundred and fifty million dollars to charity. (brent) just tremendously satisfying to know that we're doing something that's helping other people. every car company wants to sell you a car, but none of them give bac

and normalizing people like marjorie taylor greene and paul gosar. while punishing lawmakers like adam schiff, ilhan omar, and eric swalwell, who joins me in just a moment. >> plus, my pal and colleague, chris hayes, is going to help me make a big announcement tonight. you do not want to miss it. we begin with the extreme republican agenda taking shape in the u.s. house of representatives. after a messy theatrical display involving kevin mccarthy begging his far right kidnappers for the gavel. the party he purports to lead has adopted a sweeping rules package. the resolution governors how the house will operate for the next two years and includes key concessions mccarthy made to republican holdouts including the ability for any single member to call a vote to oust him. another one passed today was the creation of the, quote, select committee on the weaponization of the federal government. a panel to probe biden administration investigations. that's right. we are now investigating the investigations. including ongoing criminal investigations at the ju

congresswoman marjorie taylor greene and the spat with rap legend dr.ase and desist letter for using his beat from the 2001 song, still dre, in her twitter video. now, twitter disabled her post but for context, just for context, here's a piece. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> he held up her phone. and on the phone, it said ditty, there it is right, they're on the phone. >> well, marjorie taylor greene was celebrating kevin mccarthy speakership victory, after of course 15 runs a vote. and a response, doctor jay said, quote, i don't license these politicians, especially someone as devices and hateful as this one. and then green pronounced this response saying, quote, while i appreciate the creative cord -- i would never play your words and violence against women and police officer. in your glorification of the thug life and drugs. >> jonathan martin, karen phabian, dave intervenor back with. me, but she did play the music. >> listen, she just simple. did she -- everybody samples everything. >> she's an-itis? >> she's a creator. she's on social media. she sampled an artist. >> i

marjorie taylor green. congressman who supported mccarthy in all 15 rounds of voting for speaker. even calling trump to try and convince hold us to support mccarthy. you can zoom in on the picture and see for yourself. after the support, mccarthy rewarded her with spots of the oversight committee and homeland security. this is a serious deal! someone it was banned from committees not long ago. and a huge assent. right now, harry, how surprising is marjorie taylor greene's. given her past record? >> i think is quite surprising. we are following along the speakership they went on and on. we know the republicans with most conservatives opposing. after the 10 most conservative republicans in congress and only two of them supported kevin mccarthy on all 15 ballots. one was the former trump official, -- >> doctor. >> exactly right. he is a big party establishment. but marjorie taylor greene was anyone. that's a shocker! you asked me when you go who would be leading the charge against establishment, you would say

marjorie taylor greene supported him.re were thoughts those blocking kevin mccarthy would be punished. no, they have been rewarded. laura: tell us about george santos, who has been awarded with subcommittee jobs despite questions about his resume and him stealing money from a gofundme allegedly for a dying dog. >> every day there is a new george santos story, none of it flattering to him, and embarrassing for republicans. he has been given prominent committee assignments. he will he a certain amount of influence for a freshman member of the house of representatives. the reality for the republicans is they need his vote. they have a four vote majority. if they push them out of congress, that might negatively affect their ability to control their majority and govern. laura: how does divided government feel in washington, especially as tomorrow the government is going to reach its debt ceiling limit, and there will have to be negotiations about how to continue funding the government? >> it is an open question how this will o

marjorie taylor greene is not republican fringe. we're we're talking about it before.focus so much on green and gosset and bogart, as we should, because they're crazy, but kevin mccarthy has an entire caucus of election deniers. marjorie taylor greene and paul gosar are election deniers, and they're on the oversight committee. and that's horrible. but good luck trying to find some republican to put on that committee who is not an election denier. that is really mccarthy's problem. >> and there is now all this discourse about the great transformation of congresswoman greene. and i'm sorry, i don't really see it as such. i more see it as the transformation of the republican party. and what sort of republicans view as acceptable. >> it's also -- let's just take a step back. kevin mccarthy put the national security of the united states of america on the table as a cheat to be bargain with, parted, with four speakership. that's what he did, because marjorie taylor -- the homeland security committee also does election security. and she's an election denier. marjorie taylor g

laura boebert and marjorie taylor greene are in the exact same part of the ideological spectrum withinublican party. their election buyers, staunch trump supporters, they are both people who have really shown no interest in necessarily basic government functions at all, which we've talked about. so i would think that they would probably vote similarly on government funding bills, on debt limit bills. we've seen time and time again where marjorie taylor greene and lauren boebert align on votes. >> this is the fork in the road, in other words? >> this is why it's such a mistake to look at these 20 as a fringe. the group is much bigger, they all want to investigate hunters laptop. they want to hang fauci. the group is much bigger than 20. >> the difference is tactical and strategic. the larger group says that we they want to do this stuff, but we cannot get to it until we are sworn in. and if marjorie taylor greene prevails and helps kevin mccarthy become an extremely weekend house, speaker she is going to be much more empowered than laura boebert or matt gates. >> she is saying they can

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that marjorie taylor greene and lauren boebert fighting.ylor greene and lauren boebert fighting in a room with an echo. "do you know who i am-am-am-am-am-am? [ laughter ] marjorie taylor greene does strike me as the kind of person who would wait in the bathroom stall until she overheard someone talking [ bleep about her then just kick open the door like a cowboy busting into a saloon. "oh, you think i'm a lot?" [ laughter ] so, that's where we're at right now. the gop is embroiled in a messy and very public civil war and to make matters worse, they also have to deal with the fallout from a truly head-spinning scandal involving yet another one of their disgraced members, a guy supposedly named george santos, who was just elected from new york's third district on long island. as you may have heard, santos is a serial liar. he's been caught fabricating virtually every detail of his life story every day we learn that something else about him was a lie and now he's facing growing calls from almost everyone on all sides of the political spectrum

marjorie taylor greene spread lies about school shootings being staged.she supported all of donald trump's lies about the 2020 presidential election. she voted to overturn the presidential election after the january 6th attack on the capitol. as did all of the insurrectionists republicans i have just mentioned. except for george santos because he was not yet a member of congress on january 6th. but he was in washington on january 6th. as a private citizen supporting donald trump's attempt to overturn the election that day. the 139 republicans in the house of representatives who voted to overturn the presidential election on january 6th after the january 6th insurrection at the capitol represented the inside job of the insurrection. and now, the insurrectionists are in charge of the house of representatives. where they will accomplish exactly nothing. that is the good news. they might continue to try to pass bills like abolishing -- as they are promising to do. which will be completely meaningless exercises. because none of the legislation passed in the ho

howard: susan, the meeting described marjorie taylor green as a denier.s this garbage, so is it fair to a attach that label for life, for example, to the congresswoman from georgia? >> well, all politicians have a tendency to evolve and, certainly, she has evolved a lot. the washington time thes wrote a big story about the evolution of marjorie taylor grebe now where she's working -- green now where she's working with kevin mccarthy, moving more to the mainstream part of the party versus the outer edgings. of course it's not, you know, everything is fair in politic things. this was never going to go away, but i will point out there are members of democratic side of the aisle on the oversight committee who challenged president trump's election in 2017, have been big bomb throwers themselves, have been controversial. rashida tlaib, aoc, ayaan a that pressly, all these people have made their own controversial statements. the oversight committee is really the perfect landing place for these people. don't forget, these committee hearings can be televised, they

but, look, the idea was that the democrats stripped marjorie taylor greene of her committeeships.ed $3 million and democrats loved that because they could make her the face of the republican party. it reminds me a little bit of chuck schumer spending $50 million to help the extreme maga republicans in those republican primaries, both sides have done this. aoc is one of the least effective members of congress, and yet, the republicans focus on her as well. so i think that these committeeships don't really mean anything in the grand scheme of things. >> so, alex, are democrats basically giddy behind the scenes although publicly they're saying they're the maga extremists. >> sure. some aren't confining it to behind the scenes. look, democrats feel and i think with pretty good reason that the sooner they can move on from the special counsl phase of all this and into the sort of over the top theatrical house investigation phase of this the better it will be for them politically. people in the biden white house, people serving on capitol hill some of them elected officials themselves re

marjorie taylor greene is influencing the speaker's race.se are things that republican voters, the core, will not change. but hopefully more and more republicans will wake up and say, we cannot tolerate this. >> look, oz, masters, the lady in arizona. it seemed like a national problem. i want to close with you on this, congressman torres. we talked to the previous break, the previous block, speaker pelosi has written a dear colleague letter which you and others got. she said that in her belief, the house caucus, the democratic coxs is the greatest collection of intellect and integrity assembled for the american people. i doubt anyone could write that letter to be fair about the republican caucus. kevin mccarthy wants to succeed speaker pelosi. do you at this moment based on folks you're talking to think he will become speaker? >> i'm skeptical. first, kevin mccarthy is no nancy pelosi. she's in a league of her own. >> not even close. >> a tale of two houses, like the unity of house democrats around hakeem jeffries is a sharp contrast to the

this week we talked to congresswoman marjorie taylor greene. fascinating conversationo congrn . thanks for watching thisec special edition of the incremental gregial edraham guts right now. >> at the mind friday. happy friday, everybody. fridy that drinking has started. s first, let's welcome tonight's guest. he knowsot thoughtfues a tl proe i know extra toes.