cpac is dead. you know who will be there? donald trump jr., marjorie taylor greene, matt gaetz. we have the maga part of the party, still the biggest part of the party, they say, chris sununu, chris christie, glenn youngkin, these are wall street republicans. they don't speak for us. these are the descendents of donald trump. cpac would say to all of us, hey, forget it. we're still the heart and soul of the party. >> i mean, they are the people that lose. insur insurrectionists, weirdos, freaks, and mr. pillow is coming, as well, i saw. >> mr. pillow. >> it'll be fascinating. >> deniers, too. >> yeah. again, the people who lose. that's fine. if they want to have the party be a convention of losers, get to it. have fun. on the other side of the equation, we keep having hand-wringing, jen, about joe biden. joe biden needs to quit. joe biden needs to step aside. joe biden this. joe biden that. >> joe biden needs a new running mate is the new thing, too. >> yeah, i saw a poll out that had, like, biden

while trump headlines cpac in d.c.rly every republican hopeful will be at the donor retreat in florida, ron desantis, mike pence, estimate cot, trump very pointedly wasn't even invited there. but anyone ready to declare the end of the trump era needs to take a look at this new morning poll. it shows donald trump with 48%. that's more than desantis, pence and haley combined. so lots to talk about and bring in capitol hill correspondent ali vitali and charlie sykes, an msnbc political analyst. so, charlie, you were quite colorfully writing that when cpac convenes you'll sooner find a golden statue of trump than a conservative prince many. i ask, are we just seeing republicans shift away from cpac because of the sexual assault allegations against its leader or is this a larger shift away from trump and the maga crowd in general? >> well, it's clearly a split between the crazies and the normies in the party but more a separation than a complete divorce. i think everybody needs to be reminded that the future of the republic

kari: i am speaking at cpac this year. cpac is a great way for conservatives to come together.ieve the majority of americans are concerned and want common sense solutions to the crazy problems we are dealing with today, problems we don't need to have. we don't need to have a wide open border if we apply common sense solutions but we have to have the right leaders. all areas want a secure border and went to end the fentanyl crisis and want safety on streets. i am thrilled to be speaking at cpac. i am blown away to be here in iowa and have so many of you turn out. it is an honor to be back in my hometown. who are you and who are you with? >> i am with local for your used to work with us. we worked together at one point. kari: how are you doing? >> i am doing well. how do you take the support act arizona as you continue your fight? kari: i fight is in the judicial system and we are in the appellate court and praying we get judges who will apply a law after they look at the mountain of information we have on the election fraud case. i am hearing that to visit with family and i am g

. >> if you could speak on your being able to speak at cpac this year and what that means to you. >>. >> tv6. >> i used to work there, i used to work there. >> excellent. thank you very much. >> yes, i'm speaking at cpac this year, i'm excited, a great place for conservatives to come together. i'm a believer that the majority of americans are conservative. the majority of americans want common sense solutions to the crazy problems we're dealing with today. problems that we don't need to have. we don't need to have a wide open border if we apply some common sense solutions, but we've got to elect the right people to do that and i believe that all americans want a secure border, all americans want to end the fentanyl crisis, and all americans want safety on treats. and these are real, and we're about to be bringing those to the people. and i'm blown away to be in iowa and have so many people turn out and in my hometown. did i hit the final part of your-- >> and who are you with. >> i'm with 4, and doing well. seeing this support. how do you take the support back to arizona as you conti

. >> one quick question about cpac. donald trump still going to cpac. big names are not. what do you make of the cpac group and club for growth group, which notably did not invite donald trump to its latest cattle call. >> this is all just dog and pony bs show. it doesn't mean a damn thing. at the end of the day, donald trump's a nominee and everyone's going to line up and do what they're going to do. club for growth, whomever, doesn't matter. donald trump still controls at least a third of the base and until they figure out how to wrestle that away from him, he's still the game. >> michael, thank you very much. and still ahead, polls in chicago close in just about four hours. what the mayor did to find herself in a position to get primaried potentially tonight. first up though, nbc news is in crimea. what keir simons found when he asked about president zelenskyy's vow to take crimea back from russia. zelenskyy's vow to take crimea back from russia s. boost your team's productivity with samsung's fastest processor yet. switch and save up to $1000 on the

stuart: desantis skips the cpac conference this year. do we know why, ashley?ne, he's going to be busy selling the new book or titles and florida's blueprint for america's revival but he's also going for republican diners and meetings with donors and we know know now that mike pence and mccarthy and virginia governor glen young kin all among the people skipping the conference running from tomorrow through saturday and the party's most dominant figure, former president donald trump is reportedly planning to speak at the conference late saturday afternoon. but the scaled down list again comes as cpac chairman matt schlapp facing a sexual batly lawsuit, which he denies and they're declining the reason for absence and some republicans say there's been a movement away from the conference in recent years. stu. stuart: all right, ashley. thanks. show me the dow 30, please. there's a sense of the market. it's pretty evenly split, half up and half down. the dow is up 159 points. china is protecting its young teenagers from harmful content with their own kid friendly ver

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we'll go through the big names in the gop who are skipping cpac. plus president joe biden's plan to cancel student loan debt for some borrowers goes before the supreme court. we're going to go through the arguments on both sides of the case. >>> good morning and welcome to "way too early" on this tuesday, february 28th. i'm jonathan lemire, thanks for starting your day with us. many of the republican party's biggest names will not be attending the annual conservative political action conference in maryland this week just outside washington, d.c. potential 2024 candidates will not be at the annual gathering. rnc chairwoman ronna mcdaniels, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and house speaker kevin mccarthy are also sitting out this year. this year's conference comes as cpac's chair faces a lawsuit that alleges he fondled a male aide to then senate candidate herschel walker back in october. his lawyer says he denies those allegations. none of the politicians that have said they are not attending have cited the allegations as the reason for their

they want eventual to cpac, another will mike pence. >> no. i mean those guys, they don't have mike pence and ron desantis this year. the fact of the matter is, they are afraid. they understand with the base vote is. rhonda sanchez is running like a scalding dog away from cpac, because in the past every conservative -- was they are knocking on the door. they know that trump still has this enormous love at the base of the republican party. and he does not want to be there. that says a lot. it also tells you this was a guy, wondering is in particular, who is never taken into touch. never had somebody go up against. him even in the ballpark of donald trump, he's never gotten close to someone who is that aggressive and cool and sharp edge. and he is afraid of it. terrified of it. mike, pence god bless mike pence. in the republican primary in 2024, he came in 18th in a field of 15. it's a huge predicate for winning, no constituency, no base, no nothing. i don't understand. it it's a weird vanity. but here we are. the rest of these people are asteri

i'm speaking at cpac this year. place for conservatives to come together majority of americans are conservative. they want common sense solutions for the crazy problems we are dealing with today probably don't need to have it. we apply common sense solutions. we've got to like the right people to do that. i believe all americans want a secure border. all americans want to end the fentanyl crisis. all americans want safety on the street. the real basics are about to bring that to the people. i am blown away to be here in iowa and have so many people turn out. it's truly an honor to be back in my hometown. today had the final part of your question? x yes, ma'am thank you. cracks who were here with questionable ex- local four debbie which used to work with us at one point for quick seriously oh my gosh. hooks a very long time and i'm doing well. how do you take the support back to arizona fight radios in the judicial system appear we are praying we get judges to apply the law as it stands take a look at the mountain of

. >> i'll be there this week for cpac. stuart: okay. thanks, nigel.u better explain the investing rule, ashley. esg, what's going on? ashley: i'll do my best. yes, republicans say these are retirement plans that should be solely focused on delivering maximum returns not advancing a political agenda and department of labor's converse y'all rule investment plan i did fiduciaries can prioritize claimant change and other social issues to invest and house republicans vote on the rule and opponents say it's an effort to oppose a social agenda on more than 10 million americans who's -- 140 million americans whose retirement plans are set by the federal government and house passage by the government are assured and it's not clear that democrat leaders in the senate will take it up and it's not close. esg we'll have to wait and see and purely investing on the basis of climate change and other social issues and republicans say that's ridiculous. stu. stuart: so do i. ash, another one, governor desantis said former disney chief bob chapek complained about his ow

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>> it is, and on the republican party desantis and cpac which is the annual convention more trump got his initial attention back in 2010, 11, 12. it became sort of launching pad for donald trump and others specifically. but the interesting is the thing is that desantis and pence are not going. so does cepac mean what it used to mean? and what kind of reception will donald trump get now at cepac. it's the disneyland for republicans, and it will be very powerful. lot of people go on but it's a great place to go. but with desantis's book coming out and cepac, this is sort of the start for the young republican party. >> all right, thank you all for those perspectives. okay, what's your first reaction these days when somebody calls you on the phone? are you annoyed? are you upset that somebody is calling instead of texting? if proper phone etiquette for 2023. next. funds can help your business get a payroll tax refund, even if you got ppp and it only takes eight minutes toto qualify. i wentnt on their website, uploaded everything, and i was blown away by what they could do. getrefunds.com

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clues and the ramp up around the book release and the decision at this point not to participate in cpacng to get his own coverage and differentiate himself from the pack. >> and obviously, donald trump is trying out the nicknames for him, and attacking him, and saying he is responsible for desantis' success, and how does that potential rivalry play out for other primaries and do they have any primaries where they consume each other in the primaries? >> potentially, but i think that a lot of the republican strategists they have talked to, the more the candidates that jump in, the more it benefits former president trump, but with desantis, she biggest threat to the former president. the former president does have some avenues to try to differentiate himself from desantis, and particularly on something that we are hearing a lot of from president biden which is medicare and social security. trump did it last time around, and saying that the republicans supported cuts to entitlement, and a desantis is one of them, and that is the different policy differences that the former president tries t

i mean cpac, you know, has become less of a reflection of kind of main stream conservative thought than the kind of farthest vanguard and a pro trump organization during his years. it'll be interesting to see how much interest there is in ron desantis there. i think that -- for these candidates, you know, it's not -- again it's no longer a measure of the broad spectrum of republicans voting in the primary and it's easier to skip. what's interesting the broader pattern of republican, potential republican candidates really being in no rush to get into the race. it almost feels as if all of these potential candidates not looking to spend one more day than they have to as an officially declared candidate in the cross hairs of donald trump. >> we are all watching waiting aren't we. thank you so much for joining us. always enjoy your analysis. appreciate it. >>> still to come, tragedy at sea as migrants try to find a better life. we will go live to italy where dozens have perished so close to shore. shop appliances now backed by the lowe's s price promis. i'm a vegas hotel. i know what you're

lauren: we have cpac this week, with a lot of potential candidates.tuart: we better get to the markets lots of green. it's a modest rally in the early going this monday morning. do investors see a chance for a rally in the second half? lauren: yes, i think it gets pushed back a little bit, now maybe to june. that's when the fed is expected to stop hiking rates. the terminal or the peak rate is seen at about 5.4%. the question is can an economy handle 5.4%? i've heard even higher. larry summers was speaking friday and over the weekend. he says the chances of a soft landing are starting to recede a bit. stuart: all right i want to bring jeff sica into the show this monday morning because he bought tesla. he said he was going to buy tesla and i believe he did buy it at $103 a share. that was four weeks ago, five weeks ago? >> yeah, end of december, yup. stuart: okay, you still own it or have you sold it? >> and again, i promised you and lauren a fruit basket because i only bought it because i said i was going to buy it on the show and i haven't gotten yo

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and it was spoken by jim jordan, not in front of congress, but rather at cpac last summer.he is explaining what we're doing here. >> all those things need to be investigated just so you have the truth. plus, that will help frame up the 2024 race when i hope and i think president trump is going to run again, and we need to make sure he wins. >> tim, isn't it what this is about? this is really, it reminds me when kevin mccarthy said, you know the little thing called the benghazi hearings, it's going to make sure hillary clinton is never president of the united states. oops, did i say that in my outside voice? yes, i did. this is literally an attempt to take all the conspiracy theories people believe on 4chan and give them a congressional hearing so they can use it in the election. where am i wrong? what am i missing? >> you're not missing much, joy. i suffered through about three hours of this hearing today, so that's my penance for your viewers. you know, for any past crimes. and i got to tell you, this is all about the self important delusions of the republicans on this com

at cpac? kari lake.here's a pattern of rigged elections and all of this is playing out today. >> and they're being led by the hand by a lot of politicians currently in office. >> absolutely. who do things like change the laws in georgia to say you can make an unlimited number of voter challenges, which is exactly what georgia voters have done, motivated by calls like this, motivated by false conspiracy theories about our elections, that it's going to real election workers whose job it is to sort through the mess. >> thank you, guys, sorry the subject is not so wonderful, great, good for democracy. appreciate it, though. >>> coming up, what the creator of dilbert did to get cancelled. first up, though, personal checkups on each and every family in east palestine, ohio. what prompted federal agencies to go door to door. to go door to door e've made travel so expensive, we have this hotel to our...selves..? - how'd you get here? - kayak! they compared hundreds of travel sites to find a great deal on my flig

actually, surprisingly and trump will women nomination i think the base i'll i'll i'll be out the cpacd of this month i think trump will win but i think at least the republicans got two great choices. what you think ? my choices. what you think? my heart says trump . my head says heart says trump. my head says desantis . but i think that the desantis. but i think that the ideals would be to have trump lead it and then have desantis on the ticket , lead it and then have desantis on the ticket, and then come the next election , desantis can run next election, desantis can run for give it . it's next election, desantis can run for give it. it's a great question. it's going to be a huge debate in america over the course of the next year. thank you very much indeed , jim . jim, you very much indeed, jim. jim, good evening. hello lord farage. no. ross, chancellor , there's no. ross, chancellor, there's still time . and so my is to you still time. and so my is to you the labour run luton council are building on over parks such as london park, despite the pandemic showing how need to open gree

actually, surprisingly and trump will women nomination i think the base i'll i'll i'll be out the cpacd of this month i think trump will win but i think at least the republicans got two great choices. what you think ? my choices. what you think? my heart says trump . my head says heart says trump. my head says desantis . but i think that the desantis. but i think that the ideals would be to have trump lead it and then have desantis on the ticket , lead it and then have desantis on the ticket, and then come the next election , desantis can run next election, desantis can run for give it . it's next election, desantis can run for give it. it's a great question. it's going to be a huge debate in america over the course of the next year. thank you very much indeed , jim . jim, you very much indeed, jim. jim, good evening. hello lord farage. no. ross, chancellor , there's no. ross, chancellor, there's still time . and so my is to you still time. and so my is to you the labour run luton council are building on over parks such as london park, despite the pandemic showing how need to open gree

this call to arms for the 2024 presidential election was made with law wild applause from the cpac audience. i urge every member of the subcommittee to go and watch the interview. of course, a serious bipartisan committee focused on weapons asian of the governments with zero in quickly on the trump administration itself, which brought weaponization to frightening new levels across the board. consider a few examples i have time. for illustrative of dozens i could provide to the subcommittee. one, in a six-week period in 2020, donald trump fired or removed five different departmental its vector generals, simply for doing their jobs and not in the political demands to cover up different forms of administration, wrongdoing, misconduct. april 3rd, 2020, trump inform congress that he was firing intelligence community inspector general michael atkinson who had received a whistleblower complaints and august 2019 about improper demands made by trump to ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy. in may 20, 20 trump fired steve lenox, later claiming he had no eye the who he was and saying that he fired

donald trump is going to cpac. who's not going to cpac?med up largely with the arizona gop. folks that i talked to including the likes of matt salmon, the congressman who was the cofounder of the house freedom caucus. i talked to him this weekend. he says the issue for the arizona republican party in 2022 was that they were joined at the hip to turning point usa and charlie kirk. kari lake is an ally of charlie kirk. one suggested to me that charlie kirk was trying to do to the rnc what he did to the arizona gop. to concede would be to suggest that one has shame. >> is he a young fraud or not? >> that is not for me to suggest. as matt salmon called it, it's a mirage. he does have a mega phone. there are young conservatives he's gotten into the organization. kari lake's campaign was largely build by young staffers. i don't think we're going to see the end of charlie kirk any time soon, because so many of the young people that have become engaged in the party today did it because of the podcast, because of turning point usa, because of charl

this call to arms for the 2,024 presidential election was met with wild applause from the cpac audience. i urge you all to watch the interview. i -- serious bipartisan committee focused on weaponization of the government would 0 in quickly on the trump administration itself which brought weaponization to frightening new levels across the board. consider a few examples i have time for illustrative of dozens i can provide the subcommittee. in a 6-week period in 2020, donald trump fired or removed five different inspectors general simply for doing their jobs and not caving into trump's coercive political demands to cover different forms of administered in, wrongdoing, and misconduct. april 3rd, 2020, trump informed congress he was firing intelligence committee in spector general michael atkinson who received able to blow her complaint in august 2019 about improper demands made by trump 2 ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy. may 2020, trump fired steve linen from the state department and later claiming he had no idea who he was and fired only at secretary pompeo's response. he was inves

departmental bulletin immediately but in the community working group, our strategic plan calls for the cpac to reach out to communities. one of the members of our community working group joined one of the cpap's to say what's going on, as a commander once told me, they are made up of the people who love us. those groups, these working groups really need to be inclusive of community people. thank you for celebrating them. but let's make it systemic, not just a one-time award, but let's learn from the contributions of these amazing people and i personally want to thank them because i've stayed friends with both of them, so thank you. [applause] >> i had a really good idea that if maybe if we found the department getting $27 million, we still -- i don't know, we could think of one, maybe that could be like the sb2 position that we could collaborate as a liaison and a bridge with some of the oversights and the state needs and community driven things, just as a great idea for us to maybe follow up on. >> see, rome, they have a windfall of money so now is the time to work for the department. >> i

next week a full legislative week of the cpac conference come to washington which a lot of members, republican members will be speaking at. what's the next big wave of legislation expected to come to the house floor? what is their next primary? house republican party in terms of legislation on the floor. >> guest: we are all holding our breath for the debt limit conversation, right? secretary janet yellen has talked about june still being that timeline for when the government would feel to be able to pay its bills. we are going to see some of that play out. we're going to see some of these budget negotiations starting to happen. i will be submitting his budget and regressive republicans take aim at some of the programs he's helping for. >> host: when to expect to get the president's budget? >> guest: i believe by the end of this month findwhat and other question is social media. when will, will they finally be addressing the george santos expulsion? how can we move forward with anything until the liars are gone? maybe he isn't the only one but he has confessed. it seems open and shut. what doe

this call to arms for the 2024 presidential election was made with law wild applause from the cpac audience. i urge every member of the subcommittee to go and watch the interview. of course, a serious bipartisan committee focused on weapons asian of the governments with zero in quickly on the trump administration itself, which brought weaponization to frightening new levels across the board. consider a few examples i have time. for illustrative of dozens i could provide to the subcommittee. one, in a six-week period in 2020, donald trump fired or removed five different departmental its vector generals, simply for doing their jobs and not in the political demands to cover up different forms of administration, wrongdoing, misconduct. april 3rd, 2020, trump inform congress that he was firing intelligence community inspector general michael atkinson who had received a whistleblower complaints and august 2019 about improper demands made by trump to ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy. in may 20, 20 trump fired steve lenox, later claiming he had no eye the who he was and saying that he fired