. >> we have been getting some periodic updates from pentagon officials and nsc officials on each ofly downed objects but what we have not gotten so far is an address from the president himself about what exactly the american people should be making of these headlines and whether there's real cause for concern. and some of the lawmakers that we have been speaking to including some democrats have said that it is probably time for that to change. one member i spoke to who sits on house foreign affairs said they heard nothing from the administration over the weekend. and that president biden should probably address the public even if he doesn't have much to share by way of information right now. they said ambiguity is fuel for conspiracy theorists and i hope information is shared expeditiously, something truthful is more important than something reassuring, trust in government requires communication from government. but the issue, john, right now is that u.s. officials are still trying to get a better handle on what exactly these objects are and whether there is real reason for concern.

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special assistant to the president and the nsc senior director for china and taiwan is leaving her post next month. white house officials say her exit plans are not related to tensions over the alleged chinese spy balloon. world bank president david is stepping down early giving the buy demonstration more time to find a replacement. the lender says he believe his job by the end of june. washington has called for reforms of the world bank to reprove its ability to respond crises including by change in pandemics. global news, 24 hours a day, on air and on bloomberg quicktake, powered by 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. haslinda: four minutes to the trading day in india. let's do a check on the adani shares premarket and see how they are doing. we have the likes of modi saying that some adani companies may have trouble with rising borrowing costs as adani credit flashes warnings that set billions in overseas financing in recent years. pretty mixed picture. adani enterprises, this is a company that turn positive with the profit up by 2.3% premarket. adani transmissi

wants to avoid being against russia and at the same time not to be too favorable to russia in this nsc conflict. in your opinion, when this moment will come , what will be its most characteristic signs that would prove that russia will be ready or russia will be forced to enter into negotiations because we understand, well, in general, there are two bloody scenarios before us, i.e. big battles or attempts by the russians to freeze and somewhat reduce the intensity. for the destruction of ukraine and he will do it if he is not stopped. he will never sit down at the negotiating table in the spirit of goodwill if he wins on the battlefield, we have already learned from the minsk process. putin simply used the time between 2014 and 2022 to strengthen russia's military presence, increase it, and perhaps prepare for an invasion of ukraine, this is exactly what he would do now. if a ceasefire was reached as a result of some negotiations , the only option is to defeat him on the battlefield russia is facing serious challenges and difficulties it has run out of regular troops it has little ammu

avoid being against russia and at the same time not be too favorable to russia in this conflict , the nsc-complex in your opinion. when will this moment come, what will be its most characteristic signs that would prove that russia will be ready or russia will be forced to enter into negotiations because we understand, well, in general, there are two bloody scenarios before us, and that is, big battles or attempts by the russians to freeze and somewhat reduce the intensity. but somehow, without stopping hostilities, it will be determined by the success of ukraine's military operations in the future spring offensive. putin is absolutely determined to destroy ukraine, and he he will do it if he is not stopped he will never sit down at the negotiating table in the spirit of goodwill if he wins on the battlefield we are already trained by the minsk process putin simply used the time between 2014 and 2022 to strengthening russia's military presence, increasing it perhaps preparing for the invasion of ukraine is exactly what he would do now if a ceasefire was reached as a result of some negotiations , t

i mean, reading minutes of nsc meetings, there are there are not recordings, but there are exchanges as captured through kissinger's telecon transcripts, which are in kissinger's papers. and nixon terms, abhorrent. they didn't offer that kind of visible effect that a nuclear weapon would. so the utility wasn't. so i think. and he also wanted to known as the peace president now for political reasons for. sure. but he could have wanted to be the best at something else. i mean, want to be a peace president is a noble. so he's a complicated president and i guess all you debate his he's got many, many flaws once he makes a decision to do something like death you know biological warfare, cutting down or eliminating he goes all the way. he's just a very person. he is like the president who did the most homework. so, yeah, i agree. i mean, like he you know, it's he could commit to a and do it. i just think politics always came first with him even on big things. the vietnam war and in nuclear arms, politics and i'd say vanity. i mean, i think if he didn't live in the shadow of jfk, he might h

administration, when i got the order to withdraw 10,000 troops from germany and his notion as recommended by the nsc was to bring them home to the united states and i had been going through reviews with each of the combatant commands, i was trying to find out where the mission didn't fit the troop needs because i wanted to either bring those troops home to keep them arrested for whatever may happen in the future or find missions for them in the indo pacific so i had begun a review with european command and i told the president this. we got the order, come - wanted to withdraw troops from germany and 90 days. in my view, called the commander and todd walters and said i laid out some parameters, it couldn't we can the alliance, it had to continue to deter russia. principles by which i wanted him to drop some options and he did a remarkable job, came back and what we ended up doing was consolidating squadrons, returning units to reunite units that were divided, moving his headquarters to brussels so that his headquarters were consolidated and importantly, what we did later was rather than move big unit

we have heard from the pentagon officials, and nsc officials sharing what they can in the moment, but what we have not gotten so far in particularly over the weekend bigger more comprehensive thoughts of what the american people should make of the headlines. lawmakers that i am talking to says it is important that the american public hear from the president directly, and one lawmaker is saying that the silence strikes them as odd given that a lot of people are freaked out about the headlines. another lawmaker that i spoke to said this morning that it is important for the president to address the issue even if he cannot say much about what these objects are, but that is the key point right now, kate. u.s. officials have made clear that they are still in the process of trying to figure out what these objects are, and where they are originated from, and whether they have reason to give the u.s. concern, and so there is sort of the concern at the white house at least with people close to the president, but if he were to get behind the podium, and get in front of the cameras to speak to th

listen to what the nsc's john kirby said about that earlier today at the white house. >> we're calling this an object because that's the best description we have right now. we do not know who owns it, whether it's state-owned or corporate-owned or privately owned, we just don't know. >> reporter: now, what he also said significantly, anderson, is that this mysterious object was traveling at about 40,000 feet above ground. now, that is about 20,000 feet lower than the chinese spy balloon that we were all tracking just last week. and the significance there is that it was traveling at about the same elevation as commercial aircrafts. therefore, pentagon and white house officials determined that it posed a threat to civilian aircraft, and that is one of the major reasons that president biden gave the order earlier today to shoot it down. >> so this object was said to have been downed about ten miles off the coast of alaska. is there a plan to recover it? do we know, is there anything left to recover. >> reporter: yeah, it was just down today around 1:45 p.m., and recovery is already gettin

then the nsc spokes american from the white house says that china is the one with the high altitude programnot the u.s. , adding this. this is the latest example of china scrambling to do damage control. it is wrongfully claimed the surveillance balloon it sent over the u.s. was a weather balloon and has failed to offer any credible explanations for its intrusion into our air space and air space of others. now in a one on one interview after the first chinese confirm ed airship president joe biden brushed off the incursion saying it's not a major breach that airship flew at 60,000 feet and the object floating at lower altitudes represent a threat. >> again, as you well know, civilian aircraft operate at a variety of ranges up to 40 to 45,000 feet, so again, there was a reasonable concern that this could present a threat to or potential hazard to civilian air traffic. reporter: and the u.s. military involved in trying to get all four of those objects, the debris put together and back for processing. back to you, ashley. ashley: fascinating stuff. edward lawrence thank you very much. senate m

we heard from the former chief of staff of the nsc and trump-era we have the capability to bring it down and contain for intelligence purposes. i think that's what we should do moving forward. >> it's interesting as to what our capacities are and, obviously, one would think that there are ways to do so, but we are looking at from a hollywood perspective what you see in a movie and think, oh, that happens every day without the n nuances politically that might be a considering for the existing administration as well. there is at lot more happening. this is a time when tensions have been heightened over several years. especially this last couple weeks with the death of tyre nichols and the administration likely to focus on this in the upcoming state of the union address. i wonder what you make of the where we are right now in the ability of the government to legislate a solution to what has been a decades, if not century-long, problem? >> the ability is always there because we have a functioning government. >> but the appetite. >> it's the willpower. and we have seen numerous times family p

according to nsc spokesperson, john kirby, the object was roughly the size of a small car and was flyingow enough that it posed a threat to civilian aircraft. on saturday, at the justice of justin trudeau, u.s. fighter jets shot down another object that was small and cylindrical, flying over the uconn territory. and later on saturday, they were sent to montana to investigate an anomaly picked up on radar. but according to the defense department, they were unable to find the source. the radar blip reemerged on saturday. and after floating over lake huron in michigan, president biden made the call to bring that one down, too. it was described as an octagon structure with strings off of it with no payload. officials are working to recover from the three sites, alaska, canada, michigan, to determine the objects' origin and makeup. winter conditions in alaska and canada are making that quest difficult. the objects are said to resemble each other and not the suspected chinese spy balloon shot down earlier this month. when asked yesterday about the possibility of the objects being extraterrestr

. >> reporter: nsc spokesperson john kishly says we have to have the conversations so the chinese don'trepresent our actions. >> you have lines of communication that are open with china are important to keep open because at times like this, when the tensions are high, you want to be able to avoid miscalculation and misunderstanding. secretary blinken was able to deliver that strong message in munich. >> reporter: lawmakers on the select committee on china say the president looks weak. >> we know that they have been stealing our intellectual property for decades. we know they have been stealing your military secrets again for decades and nothing has happened to them. they are the greatest adversary and the greatest threat to our democracy. >> reporter: so the president says that china is a competitor not an adversary. neil? neil: okay. edward, thank you for that. to robert o'brien now, the former national security advisor under president trump. mr. o'brien, very good to have you. what do you think of the chinese posture on this? i joked on air, sir, that i don't know what mandarin for ch

space there are other places you can an go necessarily if you're taking new money, that putting it into nscant rails there are certainly other places this is a very specific situation to norfolk. it does not affect the complete rail industry, this is very specific to them. yes, if you want to put money in rails i think you have to look elsewhere until the situation settles a little bit, you get a better view the kind of extent of it. neil: guys, thank you both for rolling with the breaking news and how to interpret it, and get the big picture. kenny, genevieve, thank you very much. another thing to worry about is china not too pleased with us. as i've been telling you they have been promising to respond to our own sanctions against at least six chinese technology companies. who are they going after, after this? ♪. dad, we got this. we got this. we got this. we got this. we got this. yay! we got this. we got this! life is for living. we got this! let's partner for all of it. edward jones i work hard, and i want my money to work hard too. so, i use my freedom unlimited card. earning on my fav

the munich security conference where the vice president, secretary of state, senior director here at nscrs, administration officials, members of congress are all meeting with our allies and partners to discuss our enduring support for the people of ukraine as well as our trans atlantic unity and our iron clad support for our nato allies in light of all of the changes to the european security environment over the last year. and as the president believes that security environment has changed. not is changing, not will change. has changed. in fact, vice president harris is meeting with foreign leaders including chancellor scholz of germany, president macron of france. tomorrow the vice president will deliver a keynote address about our support for ukraine and the atrocities russian forces continue to commit against the ukrainian people. as you all know close coordination with our allies and partners has been a priority for president biden since taking office and throughout the past year as we support ukraine. in addition to his engagements in poland president biden is looking forward to hos

. >> take a listen to something else that nsc spokesperson john kirby said about what we're learningfrom that first tylee needs by balloon. here's that. >> we are going to exploit this material as best we can. we've learned a lot already from the balloon, by surveilling it while it was flying over the country. we're gonna learn even more we believe by getting a look at the guts inside it, and seeing how it worked, and what it was capable of. >> should this quiet all the criticism over letting the balloon fly over the u.s. for as long as it did? is intelligence in a better position to understand what china is doing, because it was able to study the balloon before blowing it out of the sky? >> it should. i don't think it will. look, the criticism of the biden administration is completely off base. they handled this exactly the way they should. they discovered, it first of, all they let the white house know, they let everyone know, and then they tracked it and they carefully well made well thought out decisions on how best to counter the threat, and gather intelligence. so hopefully, as

i mean, reading minutes of nsc meetings, there are there are not recordings, but there are exchanges as captured through kissinger's telecon transcripts, which are in kissinger's papers. and nixon terms, abhorrent. they didn't offer that kind of visible effect that a nuclear weapon would. so the utility wasn't. so i think. and he also wanted to known as the peace president now for political reasons for. sure. but he could have wanted to be the best at something else. i mean, want to be a peace president is a noble. so he's a complicated president and i guess all you debate his he's got many, many flaws once he makes a decision to do something like death you know biological warfare, cutting down or eliminating he goes all the way. he's just a very person. he is like the president who did the most homework. so, yeah, i agree. i mean, like he you know, it's he could commit to a and do it. i just think politics always came first with him even on big things. the vietnam war and in nuclear arms, politics and i'd say vanity. i mean, i think if he didn't live in the shadow of jfk, he might h

but this latest crash happening as criticism continues to pile on a week after an nsc train full of toxic chemicals wrecked and ignited a massive fire no, sir forcing thousands to evacuate from their homes in east palestine, ohio. that wreaked havoc on residents, animals, the water supply. grady trimble is on capitol hill with more on how the government is handling this railway disaster. hey, grady. >> reporter: hi, cheryl. the white house is sending teams from a number of agencies to east palestine, the cdc, the hhs. the epa has been there for some time now, but republican lawmakers say the biden administration needs to do more. governor mike dewine's office tells us fema denied his request for aid because there's no property damage at the disaster site like there would be after a hurricane or a tornado or some other natural disaster. senator marco rubio going so far as to call for transportation secretary pete buttigieg to step down. buttigieg has yet to visit the community impacted by the derailment. for his part, buttigieg with on thursday spoke about the derailment on camera for the

we have of course heard from pentagon officials and nsc officials and others after each incident to sort of share information and share information about what they can say, but that's been pretty limited so far, right, and what the american people have not gotten so far is sort of a comprehensive address, an explanation coming directly from the president on what they should make of all of this. should people be concerned? is there reason for serious concern? one democratic congressman i was talking to just last night said the silence just strikes him as odd given that there are people across the country who are genuinely freaked out by these headlines that they are seeing, but there is no indication at least as of this morning from the white house that the president will be giving remarks or speaking to this. so we will see if the fact that his public schedule is empty right now if that changes over the course of the day. but, you know, one likely explanation for why he hasn't spoken yet about this again in the comprehensive way is that u.s. officials very much are still trying to figure

you're going to see intelligence officials from the cia, the nsc on capitol hill briefing members ofgress. we don't know which way this will turn pro verb shlly and literally. i think the important point to note is there is some difference between what republicans and democrats are saying. republicans are saying they should shoot this thing out of the sky. democrats have not gone that far yet for the most part. >> jake sherman, courtney kube, thank you both. >>> now to that epic, once in a lifetime cold snap that's gripping new england right now. windchills forecast to drop so low numbers, frankly, are looking like a mistake. look at this forecast from our nbc affiliate in northern maine where it could get close to 60 below, which can cause frostbite in less than two minutes. and maine isn't alone. millions are suffering. >> lots and lots of layers, those hand warmers coming in clutch this morning. it is brutally cold out here. >> doctors are saying to people that they should just not underestimate just how dangerously cold this cold snap will be. >> these will be some of the coldest

with that, my colleague john kirby from the nsc is going to come up and share some words and take some questions. >> afternoon, everybody. just a couple things here at the top. i think you know president lula from brazil is here today. meeting with the president soon. he's looking forward to that discussion. brazil is a key partner of the united states in a region that is also a critically important region and an ally as we work together to address common challenges throughout the world, quite frankly, not just in this part of it. the president has personal experience working with president and his time as vice president, and have had multiple calls. of course as you know, we have already held a number of high level engagements since president lula's election. president biden called president lula shortly after he was elected to congratulate him, and identifying areas the two countries could work together. national security adviser jake sullivan traveled to brazil for meetings with president-elect lula and members of the incoming administration, and led a presidential delegation to bra

intelligence community is considering and i have said this before, you have heard my colleagues from nsc say this before, they could be tied to commercial or research entities and benign. efforts are actively underway at all sites to find what is left of these object so that we can better understand them. the president has directed his team to make sure that we are briefing congress on a regular bases as you have seen us do the last two days. but february, the weather, and very difficult to get the debris from the objects it has taken us some time. >> as the president plans the trip to poland, they indicate public support is shifting away from the war in ukraine, or at least growing public concern that too much is being spent on this war helping ukraine. is part of the goal the president's speech to speak to a domestic audience or primarily about the global meeting leaders? >> more broadly any time the president speaks, he's speaking as well to the american people, even if he is abroad, that's always important to note. this is the one year, he's going there ahead of the one-year annivers

. >> if you're still at the nsc, how would you advise the biden administration moving forward, victor? >> i still they still have to keep their eye on the ball. continue to deal with this question of how the ukraine war is affecting china's designs on taiwan, improve capabilities of all the allies in the region. that's china's threat, that's what we have to focus on. this particular balloon is a problem and it speaks to the broader intelligence gathering campaign against the united states, but we have to keep our eye on the ball with regard to that, and then also find guardrails in the relationship, which is what blinken's trip was about. but we can't do that if the chinese are doing things like this that embarrass the administration. >> all right, courtney kube, kristen welker, ali vitali, victor cha, thank you. >>> the northeast is bracing for what the national weather service is calling an epic generational arctic outbreak. tens of millions of people expecting life threatening cold. it will feel like negative 15 degrees in buffalo, 30 below in boston and 54 below in maine. emily aq

comfortable with making the statement about corbyn standing because he knows the likely to him on the nscthere are still elements it. so there are still elements of the corbynite left practise and fairly influential in some parts the party. but by and parts of the party. but by and large they've been neutered. frankly you frankly paula. anyway, thank you very much for joining frankly paula. anyway, thank you very much forjoining us frankly paula. anyway, thank you very much for joining us this morning. appreciate morning. we really appreciate it. we also want to it. thank you. we also want to hear our viewers as well, hear from our viewers as well, what you of keir trying to what do you of keir trying to distance himself from his very close ally , jeremy corbyn? what close ally, jeremy corbyn? what do you think? is it a good move or about one, you know, to how to get in touch with us, how to email? and as we said earlier, would you like be joined in the studio throughout by studio throughout the show by former mep belinda former brexit mep belinda deluise? so belinda was, was do you starm

candidates and guess doing right now, guess what he's doing right now, he'll back he'll be imposing an nsce and islington. and i think for me it's reminiscent of his position on brexit. keir starmer and people him starmer and people like him within the permanent political class something go class when something doesn't go their way , well, they like their way, well, they don't like something. say, you know something. they say, you know what, people don't what, the little people don't matter. just matter. we'll just ride roughshod them. and think roughshod over them. and i think this the same thing and it this is the same thing and it doesn't it's doesn't matter whether it's jeremy or somebody else . jeremy corbyn or somebody else. the the the labour leadership across the country is fixing long country right now is fixing long lists to exclude lists basically to exclude certain from being able certain people from being able to from various of the to run from various parts of the party. and it's outrageous. and i can sit here as somebody who's on the left and say, frankly, the conservative p

nsc coordinator for strategic communications admiral john kelly telling reporters this afternoon that once the debris from the objects are retrieved and examined we can get better answers to all those questions. the shooting down of these three flying objects follows of course the downing of the large chinese spy balloon a week prior. melissa dalton, assistant secretary of homeland defense and hemispheric affairs said during a press conference that hypervigilance in response to the spy balloon could be a possible explanation as to why we saw so many objects in such a short time. >> in light of the people's republic of china balloon that we took down last saturday we have been more closely scrutinizing our airspace at these altitudes including enhancing our radar, which may at least partly explain the increase in objects that we've detected over the past week. because we have not yet been able to definitively assess what these recent objects are, we have acted out of an abundance of caution to protect our security and interests. the spy balloon in the prc was of course different in tha

first time a set of newly declassified transition memoranda, 30 of them, prepared by president bush's nscf, for the incoming obama administration, to outline the key foreign policy charges it would face. joining us, former national security adviser for president bush, for president george w. bush, stephen hadley. he is one of the book's editors. thank you for coming on the show. it is good to see you. what do we learn about the george w. bush administration foreign policy in these documents and how it applies to challenges we face today? >> well, thanks for being -- very a chance to be on the show. what the book really shows is what, in the transition memos what the staff thought they'd accomplished and what remained to be done under the obama administration. as we saw it at the end of the administration in 2008. i think if you look at the book, it corrects a lot of mythology about the bush administration. a lot of people think the only thing we did was iraq, afghanistan and the war on terror. if you look at the table of contents, simultaneously, we were handling the full range of foreign

at least 40,000 feet, according to nsc spokesperson john kirby. the object was roughly the size of a small car and was flying low enough that it posed a threat to civilian flights. on saturday at the request of canadian prime minister justin trudeau, the u.s. fighter jets shot down another object, which was small and cylindrical, flying over the country's yukon territory. saturday, u.s. aircraft were sent to montana to investigate an anomaly picked up on radar. according to the defense department, they were unable to find the source. officials say the radar blip reemerged overnight on saturday, and after floating over lake huron near michigan, president biden made the call to bring it down. it was described as a structure with strings hanging off of it with no discernible payload. officials are now working to recover debris from the three sites to determine the object's origins and makeup. winter conditions in alaska and canada are making that difficult. the objects are same to all resemble each other, and not the suspected chinese spy balloon sho

i will send a ly memorandum to the secretary of hhs and he in turn i presume will reach out to the nsc and ostp in an effort to update the framework. >> i want to hear more than just effort. this has to be done what you're telling me is it has been done has been done immediately except you are the definitionof gain of function research on. it goes on to say that in this 43 omnibus lead the funding of pandemic potential research in foreign countries of concern and we find foreign countries of concern russia and. he has that been done? >> there is no research from a function today. just concert by nih. >> has there been in the past ? >> no. >> there has not been in the past. >> there has not been in the past funded by nih really sars co-v virus, that was conducted in the netherlands. >> let me ask you one heother thing. this legislation mandates all funding the out no later than 60 days after the bill is an active that the end of the month. can you apply your agency will fully comply with the law is completely defined any relevant grant? >> we have no current grants, there's nothing to d

he in turn i presume or reach out too the nsc and we will convene a governmentwide effort to update thewith which we work. >> i want to hear more than just effort. this has to be done with your tell me it has been done is been done immediately? i will accept your limited definition of gain of function research. then it was on to say on the 2020 the omnibus bay on the funding research for countries of concern. we define that as china, north korea, russia and iran. can you tell me is that been done? >> or snow funding of research in the foreign country today. hazard in the past? >> no. >> is not been in the past? many years ago conducted in the netherlands. that was influenza. quickly asking one other thing. this legislation also manage that stop no later than 60 days after the bill is enacted and that's the end of the month. can you commit your agency will fully comply with the law? fully comply with the law and completelyen defined any at this time? >> we have no current grants funded so there's nothing to defend. i just want to make sure i am clear. you are not h funding anything with

you actually voted to strike on the any you and it was only 48% well like you say you actually at the nscthreshold the nht did meet the threshold and the nfu majority of teachers voted to not strike or didn't return their ballot, which obviously is in itself a choice as well. so actually what the nonh as well. so actually what the north education union doing with bolshevik and call bolshevik bousted and call me, courtney to out courtney is trying to live out their fantasy , the their utopian fantasy, the expense of children which can lead me to believe they must hate children, must hate their life opportunities being you life opportunities being, you know, if they know, because ultimately if they did care about children, they'd want them to in the classroom want them to be in the classroom learning that teacher learning from that teacher the experts, parents or experts, not putting parents or low a day's pay low incomes, losing a day's pay if they work at the checkouts or the spark the plumber or the the spark or the plumber or the brekkie . who needs to go to work brekkie. who needs to g

shortly, i will send a memorandum to the secretary of hhs and he intern, i presume, will reach out to the nsc and to the -- convene a government-wide effort to update the framework with which we work in these -- >> i want to hear more than just effort. this has to be done. what you're telling me is that it has been done and has been done immediately? all except your limited definition of gain of function research. >> that is the definition. >> then it goes on to say that in the 2023 omnibus that we banned the funding of pandemic potential research in foreign countries of concern. we define foreign countries of concern as china, north korea, russia and iran. can you tell me, has that been done? >> there is no funding of a ppe research in any foreign country today. that is sponsored by nih. >> has there been in the past? >> no. >> there has not been in the past? >> there has not been in the past funded by nih related to the sars covid virus. many years ago, there was a pew research conducted in the netherlands and that was an influenza. >> okay. let me ask you one other thing. this legislation