a few moments that you ah a ah, ah, ah ah, with ah, ah ah, welcome back to well, the part with ella freeman, co director of the geopolitical economy, research group at the university of manitoba. now was a freeman. let's now turn our attention to the war in the ukraine and in one of your recent articles you both and that i think doesn't have the right to exist in the western universe. you ask if nato one in ukraine, and if the russian army was driven back to the border, would there will be a better or worse place. and i'm sure it looks like a no brainer to most of your countrymen. why? even asking a thing like that, isn't that an ass in my to a western ear? i asked the question because of the defect in the western so called left. even the far left, even the people you'd expect would be very revolutionary africa against nato. because they have fallen prey to, i think, an illusory way of thinking, which is they think that russia is an imperialist power. i think the china listening period is power. that's there. when the united states is not simple, right? i mean, what they get wrong is very s