this is christopher rufo. he's now one of the people governor desantis has appointed to theor board of trustees that overseas new college in florida. haz trying to make the test case for anti-woke legislation. christopher rufo is also the reason your conservative uncle wouldn't stop talking about critical race theory at thanksgiving last year. in september 2020 rufo went on tucker carlson's show to not only make his case against crt but to literally tell trump what he thought t should be done abo it. >> i'd like to make it explicit the president and the white house it's within their authority and power to immediately issue an executive order abolishing critical race theory trainings from the federal government. >> thanks to reporting from it "the washington post" we actually know former president trumppo was watching tucker carlson's show when christopher rufo made that request. three days later trump's budget chief sent out a memo demanding no federal money be used for crt. at the end of the month trump issue

instead, we got dana lash and christopher rufo, both conservative activist types asking questions thatly softballs of desantis. they were talking about dogecoin, cryptocurrency, and he used the phrase, at one point, accreditation cartels. i don't know what that means. on the substance, is that really the message that you want to come out of the gate on. it's very very narrowly focused on 80 350,000 people who were listening. >> think about the opportunity that you have with a campaign launch. think about the pictures that came out of tim scott's launch on monday. he was able to communicate a really clear sense of why he is in this campaign and what his message is about and then you had all these beautiful pictures of him surrounded by screaming fans. desantis has basically passed up the opportunity for all of that. and so where are the nice pictures out of his campaign launch that can run with a newspaper story tomorrow? and i know you want to talk about substance. where is the message? where is the meaty sort of thing that he wants to impart to america, right? he says, great american

is the right way to address that the ron desantis, christopher rufo strategy of trying to write the lawsan every idea that conservative parents don't like? no. we are seeing the results of that play out here with this port teacher the just wanted to show a silly movie with a gay character. it is sad. i think the conversation that we should be having is, how do we get some more political balance among our public teachers? so that's situations like this -- >> how do we get more republicans to want to become school teachers. there's that question. does that imbalance exist? we have ten seconds, your thoughts about why this is taking hold across the country? >> because of ron desantis making this woke his main issue in florida. it's become the ground zero. it is the place where they try to ban books on rosa parks for school kids. or a great novelist by tony morrison in florida. this is just another continuation of the desantis war on disney down there. >> thank you very much, friends. meanwhile, tonight there could be answers about how some police stops with black drivers become violently so

instead, we got dana loesch and christopher rufo, both conservative activist advertists. they were talking about doige coins. very narrowly focused on maybe the 150,000 people who were listening. >> right. think about the opportunity that you have with a campaign launch. think about the pictures that came out of tim scott's launch on monday, right? he was able to communicate a really clear sense of why he is in this campaign, what his message is about, and then you had all these beautiful pictures of him surrounded by screaming fans. desantis has basically passed up the opportunity for all of that. so where are the nice pictures out of his launch that can run with the newspaper story tomorrow. i know without you've want to talk about substance where. is the message, the meaty sort of thing that he wants to impart to america, right? he says great american comeback. so what does that mean? what are people going to take away from this? if you're a rank and file republican voter who is legit undecided and really wants to shop around and understand all the candidates and where