defamation law in no way prevents people like ruby and shaye, heroes like ruby and shaye, from holding who knowingly and recklessly lie about them accountable. >> explain to me what happened illegally today. the finding -- this is a judgment of the judge that you have one on the law. that based on the law and the facts, rudy giuliani defamed your clients and the judge did not hold back. i will read one part about how judge howell views giuliani's deflections. rather than simply play by the rules, giuliani has bemoaned plaintiffs efforts to secure his compliance as punishment by process, donning a cloak of victimization may play well on a so, what happens now? >> well, today's ruling is a complete and total victory for ruby and shaye on what is called liability. liability is like guilty in the civil system, and what to the courthouse today is that, based on the innumerable violations of the very basic discovery obligations, every litigant in a civil case has to comply with. mr. giuliani is fully liable to ruby and shaye for defamation, for intentional infliction of emotional distress, a

ruby and shaye exemplified that. they offered to work in an election in the midst of a global pandemic to make sure everyone's vote was counted. defamation law in no way prevents people like ruby and shaye, heroes like ruby and shaye, to holding those who recklessly lie about them accountable. >> explain to me what happened legally today. the finding, basically, the judgment says you've won on the law that based on the law and the facts, rudy giuliani defamed your clients, and the judge did not hold back. let me read one part about how judge howell views giuliani's elections. >> giuliani has bemoaned plaintiffs after its to secure -- danya calk victimization may well play well in a public stage to certain lot audiences, but in a lot this subverts the normal process of sick discovery in a straightforward defamation case. what happens now? >> today's ruling is a complete and total victory for ruby and shaye. liability is like guilty in the civil system. what the court held today was that based on the innumerable violat

do you think ruby freeman and shaye moss will see any of the damages that they do get?dn't be the first person to try to evade accountability and responsibility by not paying, or claiming to not be able to pay. we don't know yet. we haven't seen the evidence. i think if you read the court's opinion today, you'll see that a lot of the evidence that would go to net worth and financial conditions are documents and information we've been seeking for months now. and have never been provided. so, we'll have to get that information from them. he has now been ordered to turn that over to us as part of the next phase of this case. and be able to make a determination of what may or may not be collectible. so, all of that remains to be seen. it's gonna have been quickly, and the court has set a fairly aggressive timetable out for us to go through that discovery process. and to have a trial on the damages face. phase. >> we will see what that number. is mike gottlieb, thanks for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> ahead, there are major new questions about senate minority leader,

thing is a big win when we're looking for justice for ruby freeman and shaye moss. of course when he was testifying in front of the january 6th select committee, could not lie under penalty of perjury. a little bit different than what he was saying publicly, of course. and blayne, we've also got more news in the georgia case. one of the indicted co-defendants kenneth chesebro is asking a judge to reveal the names of the unindicted co-conspirators and chesebro and sidney powell want to sever their cases from the other defendants. what exactly do they want? >> one of the interesting things when you have a sprawling case like this with 19 separate defendants. so with sidney powell and ken chesebro are asking is they want to be tried separately. from chesebro's standpoint he is the first person to have asked for a speedy trial. the judge said october 23rd is going to be your trial date. chesebro is saying let's fwd and make it official and remove the other 30 some odd charges, counts that he's not charged with. get those out of the way because his attorney is arguing th

here with me is michael gottlieb, the attorney for shaye moss and ruby freeman. we should note you're representing them pro bono? >> that's right, jake. >> okay. how are your clients feeling after the judge's ruling, and how are they attempting to rebuild their reputations? >> they're obviously very happy with the ruling. it is vindication of what they've been saying for two years now. and it is recognition that their efforts, which have been truly courageous in being willing to stand up to very powerful people while facing death threats, while having their entire lives upended, that their efforts meant something and that there will be accountability and that people like rudy giuliani can't just hide behind the judicial system and refuse to comply. so they're happy. they recognize that there are more steps to be taken and that there's still a long way forward to repairing their reputations and getting back some semblance of normalcy in their life. but they're very happy with the result. >> it is odd to say the least to see a former u.s. attorney, somebody known f

federal judge finding rudy giuliani liable for defaming georgia election workers ruby freeman and shaye moss. this is what giuliani told the world as he repeatedly and falsely accused the mother and daughter of stealing ballots. >> ruby freeman and shaye freeman moss and one other gentleman, quite obviously passing around usb ports as if they are vials of heroin or cocaine. >> reporter: the women told the january 6th committee giuliani's false claims ruined their lives. >> i've lost my name, and i've lost my reputation. i've lost my sense of security, all because a group of people starting with number 45 and his ally, rudy giuliani, decided to scapegoat me and my daughter, shaye, to push their own lies about how the presidential election was stolen. >> reporter: giuliani has conceded his statements about moss and freeman were false, though he insists they were protected by the first amendment. but today, judge beryl howell holding him liable for "defamation, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and civil conspiracy." she says she entered the default judgement, because ghoiulian

i'm joined by von dubose, the attorney representing ruby freeman and shaye moss.being here. i just want to find out how ms. freeman and ms. moss are feeling in the wake of this ruling in their favor. >> they feel good about it. they feel like this has been vindication, not all vindication, i would say, certainly partial vindication. there's still more work to be done. the trial phase, as you mentioned, is coming up next. and unfortunately, you can't win your sense of security at trial, so it won't be a full vindication in that sense. and restoring them to where they should be, but this was a good development, and they're very happy about what the judge did yesterday. >> and i can tell you that over here, we consider them to be national heroes because anyone who helps folks vote, other than librarians, those are my favorite people. let's remind everyone what was said about these two wonderful women by rudy giuliani in which he defamed them. >> earlier in the day, ruby freeman and shaye moss and one of the gentleman quite obviously surreptitiously started passing ar

ruby freeman and shaye moss. the election, the mother daughter duo, both atlanta election workers, found themselves at the center of one of the most persistent conspiracies spread by trump and his allies. using selectively edited video, trump and rudy giuliani claimed that freeman and moss committed voter fraud by pulling out fraudulent ballots permissive case on election night. giuliani also said freeman and moss passing around usb drives containing votes, quote, like vials of heroin or cocaine during ballot counting operations. trump had referred to the two women more than a dozen times during his call with raffensperger, falsely calling freeman a quote professional vote scammer and hustler. despite georgia election officials immediately debunking these outrageous claims the lies spread and spread and spread in conservative media like wildfire. last year, freeman and moss testified before the january sixth committee. and they shared how the ex presidents dangerous disinformation campaign nearly destroyed their

amy: there, you have shaye moss. their lives were turned upside down, men coming to their homes demanding they come out, talk about the significance of this. and now, it has showed that giuliani is admitting that he lied. carol: right. this is the kind of terror that is reminiscent of what happened during reconstruction that led to the kkk act that trump is charged with. because that kind of terror was the intimidation of black people who were exercising their right to vote. the intimidation of black people who believe they were american citizens. the intimidation of black people who were engaged in the electoral process. this is what was happening based on a lie where giuliani admits that he lied. even worse, i have to say is that these lies about election fraud, about massive rampant voter fraud becomes the basis for the voter suppression laws that many states like georgia then put in place. so you have got an incredible array of laws in place. pieces of those laws dealing with absentee ballots, dealing with drop b

it comes chapter two which might be the harassment of ruby freeman and shaye moss. so we call out with the harassment chapter, it gives the over and then, you present the evidence about that. so the jury at the end of it hears each of these chapters and it's a way to help them understand the story and how it all comes together as opposed to when you're moving chronologically as we've seen that list of overt acts, it gets to be a little bit of a mismatch. when you put it together knows chapters and i think the jury will get a comprehensive sense of all the different parts of the schemes. and at the end of the day after pick to. >> and terms of the various actors involved in those various schemes, have been making those kind of divides myself as we've been going through the various counts. okay here's the cast of characters involved in voting machine tampering. here's the cast of characters who appear to be involved in the harassment of ruby freeman. as the cast of characters that are parity involved in pressuring the state senate state the state legislator sure to th

in june ruby freeman and shaye moss were cleared of any fraud cases.ions board double checking what are now initially what led to the indictments. so they even double check what the now indicted coconspirators were pushing. indictments are just. at the d.a. was clear about that last night. a set of allegations that have not been proven. these people are legally presumed innocent. but being legally presumed innocent's court is the legal side. the public side, or we just saw in that general six testimony and what has been documented, which you might read about in a paper, has been beyond ugly. i want to bring in kathryn christian, former assistant district attorney in manhattan, and then as nbc analyst. welcome back. >> glad to be here. >> i mentioned the dimensions to that and the legal process in it's required fairness. but we wanted to hit this is part of our special coverage. there have been many different strands. justice can be slow and the court process will still play out with trials. but tonight, given everything, what does it mean that the dea

ruby freeman and shaye moss, they're constituents.y love right here and they were election day workers who went in to do their job, and what should have been an uneventful experience because we have people who signed up to do this work for not a lot of money, but to uphold our democracy and they were subjected to this because they simply showed up to do their job that day. that is why we introduced legislation in congress around election subversion and i was happy to hear when hearing the details from the indictment that my district attorney, also a constituent, was also focusing in on the election subversion piece and not just the piece of that you hear about so often in the news and the media. let's be clear, donald trump and his co-conspirators have done a lot of things that are illegal and our district attorney is going to get to the bottom of this. uplifting those things around the election subversion and everyday people who didn't sign up to run for office, who didn't sign up to be subjected to this were -- had to move out of th

shaye and her mother were advised by the fbi to leave their home. the threats were taken seriously.es for which giuliani will be held liable, will be set for later this year. trouble is he's got no money. because he has committed so many crimes— because he has committed so many crimes and — because he has committed so many crimes and he is under investigation and he _ crimes and he is under investigation and he is _ crimes and he is under investigation and he is trying to defend himself. it's and he is trying to defend himself. it's the _ and he is trying to defend himself. it's the space of —— such a despicable moment, that we have this prominent _ despicable moment, that we have this prominent american with a national global— prominent american with a national global platform, the ear of a sitting — global platform, the ear of a sitting president at the time, tremendous power and authority, picking _ tremendous power and authority, picking on— tremendous power and authority, picking on election workers, picking on working — picking on election workers, picking on working people, a

ruby freeman and shaye moss. is brand new reporting that fani willis could be seeking justice for them in her expected indictments next week. quote, the grand jurors approved several summons for people who visited her home and convinced her to falsely implicate herself. several jurors recommended they were on the same page of people. >> talk to us about this reporting and what it is that justice might look like. >> what we know from our own reporting and also from people inside the process that there were multiple people reaching out to ruby freeman and shaye moss. one gentleman was inside her home, was intercepted by deputies. he said i just want to talk to miss freeman and tell her the truth, i'm not going to hurt her. other people, they weren't so sure. so they were being surveilled, they were being in many cases harassed. they were, as we discussed, getting death threats. they had to move out of home and they were in real specific danger and peril. and so that goes beyond harassment. that certainly looks like

shaye moss. -- right now for idalia -- chad myers is in the weather center. chad, what are you seeing? >> -- five more miles per, hour down to 60 miles per hour, right now, and that doesn't really take -- down to something that is not damaging. you can still see power lines coming down here, with winds at that speed. i am also seeing a very big blowup of bright colors here across the piedmont of south carolina, and also almost upstate there, of north carolina. that is an area i am concerned about. very heavy rainfall still coming down at this hour. one more area here of a blowup under the gulf stream, and that's the area that is going to rotate into coastal carolinas over the next couple of hours, and then each one of those storms could actually have a tornado involved with it. but right, now moving offshore, by 8:00 tomorrow morning, finally, be the north carolina coast, and maybe out of our way. now, we are going to see the chance of some severe weather tonight. still, the tornado watches are in effect. so, the storms are coming on shore here. and as they s

their names are ruby freeman and shaye moss, shaye moss her daughter. and they were among the few civilians, these are not elected officials. these were two poll workers, some of the people we all know when we go to vote, they recognize us, say hey baby every time you go to vote. they were those ladies. and they were not just thrown under the bus and accused by rudy giuliani and donald trump of literally stealing the election in georgia, they were then targeted, part of the indictment here is a scheme by three people including kanye west's former publicist to harass them and try to force them to take the fall for a lie. let me play what they had to say during the january 6th hearings. >> it's turned my life upside down. i no longer give out my business card. i don't transfer calls. i don't want anyone knowing my name. i don't want to go anywhere with my mom because she might yell my name out over the grocery aisle or something. >> there's nowhere i feel safe. nowhere. do you know how it feels to have the president of the united states target you? the pr

ruby freeman, shaye moss. some of the other individual, local officials. not big names.ho were pressured to change the outcome of the election. i think that's what makes this case actually quite compelling and really humanizes it. i think this case will have a jury appeal that maybe will be lacking in the federal case which may feel more clinical when talking about pressuring mike pence and more institutions of government. >> charles, do you think it's a major game changer that the victims in this case, they're not just hypotheticals. they're not democracy. they're not voters. these are two human victims who say and have shown this ruined their lives in some ways. >> well, chris, that's absolutely right. to piggy back on what barbara was talking about, one of the things that fani willis is going to have to do in this case is give the victims of these acts an actual face that the jury can connect to. that's something she's going to be able to do with this count that deals with ruby freeman and shaye moss because now you're not talking about these very lofty ideas that you

of any material fact, that the facts were clear that donald trump had defamed both ruby freeman and shaye moss with his statements, and you know, the really indefensivable when you think about the things they said singling them out based on completely innocent and very responsible behavior serving as poll workers. so probably not a surprise that the judge did find the way she did, but she did come down very hard on him. the only thing left now is how much money he is going to have to pay them, not only in damages but possibly punitive damages, which is damage above and beyond your out-of-pocket expenses. so for things like i lost my job and i had pain and suffering and other kinds of things. that's compensatory damages, and that would be the baseline. in addition when conduct is extremely egregious, a judge can also add what's called punitive damages, and that's extra money for punishment because what they did was so egregiously bad. >> let's break down, david, that financial component because giuliani has said pretty much throughout this process, right, that he's running out of money. hi

this was shaye moss testifying to the january 6th committee last year. >> were a lot of these threats and vile comments racist in nature? >> a lot of them were racist. a lot of them were just hateful, wishing death upon me, telling me that, you know, i'll be in jail with my mother and saying things like be glad it's 2020 and not 1920. >> trump's allies also allegedly tried to coerce freeman and moss into confessing to crimes they never committed. just weeks after the 2020 election a mysterious white man showed up and began banging on ms. freeman's door. ms. freeman didn't recognize the man and so she turned him away and called police who then spoke to this man outside her home. >> hey, what's going on? >> i'm a pastor and also working with some folks trying to help ruby out. i want to let her know i've got some pro bono service for her. >> that strange man who was offering pro bono services was a man named stephen cliffguard lee. he was one of the people indicted last night by fani willis. this is what the indictment says about him. he solicited harrison floyd, an individual associate

focusing in on shaye moss and ruby freeman. what does it mean for those voters for fulton county that this happened last night? >> well, it obviously depends on how you feel about president trump. donald trump still certainly has supporters in full tonight county. those supporters do not believe these charges against him. they have been with him from day one. and as he continues to say this was rigged and stolen, they believe him. however, i think for the rest of fulton county voters, there has always been a question are you just allowed to do this, can just say the election was stolen when it wasn't, can you spread rumors, can you lead to people's death threats, can you lead to absolute chaos in an entire state for months on end. is there any consequence for that. and so this tells us that, yes, there are consequences no matter what happens with the trial, this is something that i don't think that even fulton county voters expected to see these kinds of consequences. >> let's talk about those voters because that is what this i

ruby freeman and shaye moss actually sued rudy giuliani for defamation.nd of rhetoric, talking about these two black women as being drug dealers, stealing an election, that goes way back to the 1989 race for mayor. the 1989 race for mayor, which giuliani lost to the first black man elected as mayor in new york, david dinkins. as he told journalist jack new field in an interview he quotes, in his book, the full rudy, this is 21 years ago, and i'm quoting him here, they stole that election from, they stool that votes in the black parts of brooklyn and washington heights, illegal dominican immigrants were allowed to vote in washington heights. that sounds familiar, doesn't it? has a certain ring to it. let me tell you, as a lifelong new yorker, reporters in new york city and critics will tell you, rudy giuliani has always been an absolute machiavellian operator. so yeah, you might say, what happened to rudy? or you could say, this has always been rudy, all the way to the end. nick ackerman briefly worked alongside giuliani while serving as an assistant u.s.

former poll workers ruby freeman and shaye moss sued giuliani over his baseless claims they committedfraud. you'll recall both testified to the january 6th committee that their lives were turned upside-down by the false claims. giuliani conceded in a court filing last month he indeed made false statements about freeman and moss. he also failed to produce any evidence in discovery in his case leading to the judge's defamation ruling. in a statement freeman and moss said the rulings bring them, quote, one step closer to rebuilding their lives. a spokesperson for giuliani said he's been wrongly accused. >>> joining us now greg bluestein. what do you think, could there be a linkage here between this defamation suit and what he faces in the criminal case being brought by fulton county d.a. fani willis? >> it's a good question because anything that happens in open court in that trial, in that defamation phase could also be used -- ostensibly used by fani willis and prauts curators in the other trial. this is an extraordinary ruling and it was a blistering 57-page ruling that says essentiall

the trauma that shaye moss and ruby freeman experienced was a story that the committee told.nt to be election workers, will never want to volunteer as poll workers, and a lot of that happened in georgia. so what are your thoughts today? >> yeah, absolutely. look, this has real consequences, right? these kinds of allegations are not simply rhetorical. they're not political speech. they have really concrete consequences. people breaking into private homes in georgia is exactly the sort of outgrowth of the rhetoric that the president and others, his lawyers in particular, used in georgia. so shaye moss, ruby freeman, al schmidt in philadelphia, secretary raffensperger, jocelyn benson in michigan, there's so many people who literally had people outside their house or e-mailing, texting them incredibly vile hateful messages, threatening messages. right? this is awful enough that we're talking about a political attempt to subvert the joint session. but jack smith and fani willis are going to develop the real human cost of this. real people whose safety was threatened. and frankly i

following the november 2020 vote, ruby freeman and her daughter shaye moss were falsely accused of rigging georgia's election in favor of joe biden. the mother and daughter duo both fulton county election workers, were targeted because trump's fraudsters needed a patsy for their fake elector plot. now, just remember, these were not victimless crimes. freeman and moss were viciously harassed. their lives upended as trump's cronies tried to uh-huh has them into admitting something that wasn't true. which brings us back to trump's ensemble character. harrison floyd, the maryland based executive director of a group called black voices for trump, trev yawn cutty, a former publicist for now scandalized music stars r. kelly and kanye west, as if this case wasn't weird enough, and we have steven lee, a lutheran pastor, i did say pastor, who is allegedly creepy guy history includes knocking on freeman's door to, quote, get some truth on what's going on. all three according to the charging document pressured, threatened, and intimidated ms. freeman, citing baseless claims she was involved in voter f

he is being sued by ruby freeman and shaye moss, as well he should be.ril. >> tanya miller, woody rudy giuliani, in that same interview, also said this. they are not even crimes -- this is the first amendment. this is free speech. it is my acting as a lawyer. i have a right to argue for my client. i even have a right to exaggerate for my client. i have a basis for everything that i said. what is your reaction to that? >> i think that those are the expected defenses to hear. i think we have heard him hint at these defenses all along. look, i think -- i agree. i think that rudy giuliani's conduct is probably the most egregious. it's probably going to be the easiest to prove. and this notion that, somehow, rico is only meant for the mafia, i don't think he has been watching how the rico statute has been used in modern times. i certainly don't think he has paid attention to how it's been used in fulton county. and i don't think he realizes that this particular da is very skilled in using rico for things exactly like this, pioneering types of situations where

lawyer and advisor rudy giuliani defamed georgia election workers, ruby freeman and her daughter, shaye moss. giuliani made repeated false claims about the two of them as he worked to reverse trump's 2020 election loss. >> earlier in the day, really freeman and shaye freeman and one other gentlemen quite obviously surreptitiously passing around usb ports as if there are vials of heroin -- we had at least 18,000 that's on tape. we had them counted very painstakingly, 18,000 voters having to do with ruby freeman and she is a vote scammer. professional vote scammer and hustler. ruby freeman, that is, that was the tape that has been shown all over the world that makes everyone look bad. you, me, and everybody else. >> what was your mom actually handing you on that video? >> a ginger mint. >> handing one another a ginger mint. as far as looking bad, the person who does tonight's rudy giuliani. he will now have to pay their legal fees, and face a civil trial to determine the extent of the damages. there is also news tonight about two of trump and giuliani 's codefendants in the georgia electi

this is shaye moss testifying to the january six committee in june of last year. >> were a lot of these> a lot of them were racist. a lot of them were just hateful, wishing death upon me. telling me that i'll be in jail with my mother and saying things like, be glad it's 2020 and not 1920. >> trump's allies also allegedly tried to coerce freeman and moss into confessing to crimes they never committed. just weeks after the 2020 election, a mysterious white man showed up and began banging on miss freeman's door. ms. freeman didn't recognize the man and so she turned him away and called the police. she they then spoke to the man outside her home. >> what's going on? >> my name is steve lee. >> yes. >> i'm a pastor. i'm also working with some folks who are trying to help ruby out. >> we want to let her know that we want to provide pro bono service. >> that strange man who was offering pro bono services was a man named stephen cliffgard lee. he is one of the 19 people indicted last night by the a fani willis and this is what the indictment says about mr. lee. on or between the 15th of decemb

i would go to georgia and say remember ruby freeman and shaye moss were called drug dealers for attempting to help you vote. they were people who were trying to help their community vote, latino voters in arizona had an attempted robbery committed against them, right? that voters in wisconsin, and all of these places had an attempted theft committed against them and that is the case for reelecting biden if you are a democrat. but i have to redo one thing, rachel, you love to do that, can i just do one quick dramatic reading for you? because i just pulled it up. ron desantis, today, he put out a statement. and he says as president, i will end the weaponization of government, replace the fbi director and injuries single standard of justice for all americans while i have seen reports, this is the most important line, i have not read the indictment. i do, though, believe we need to enact reforms on what americans have a right to remove cases from washington d. c. to their home districts. it is unfair to have to stand trial before a jury that is reflective of these swamp mentalities. what is he

when you think about ruby freeman and shaye moss, what they had to endure.ident put a target on their backs. they had to leave their homes and get security. when they thought someone was coming to help them, it was someone that trump and his lackeys sent to harass them, intimidate them, and put even more fear and their lives. so, what we know in fulton county is that no one is above the law. my district attorney, fani willis, will hold donald trump and anyone else who breaks the law in fulton county accountable. so, we are gonna allow this process to play out. at some point this week, he will be in fulton county in the fighting fifth so that he can present himself to our sheriff, sheriff patrick law by. there will be a mugshot, donald trump will go through the process like everyone else who's charged with a crime in fulton county. >> you know, the state of georgia politics is always fascinating, right? you have governor brian kemp, publicly pushing back on donald trump, even right after that indictment comes out, former lieutenant governor jeff duncan. i was

it was laid out in the indictment and is laid out for all the public to hear, both ruby freeman and shayeoss were doing their civil duties and their civil service at the time here, but you're dealing with, again, when we're talking about 19 co-defendants with all very much competing interests, you have everyone from a former publicist to kanye west to the former president of the united states, chris. >> i mean, when you look at that lineup, gwen, it not like your typical rico case i don't think in that sense necessarily, but 19 people, what would that even look like legally and logistically? >> well, i think those are some of the challenges that the judge in this case, judge mcafee along with all of the defense teams and the d.a. are going to have to work out. again, normally, as a case proceeds to trial and discovery is shared, various motions are filed and ruled upon, some may be favorable to defendants. some may be favorable to the district attorney. either way, as those decisions are made, defendants will start to make decisions about what is their best case in terms of do they want t

indictment, trump and his allies, targeting two fulton county poll workers, ruby freeman and her daughter, shaye they are vials of heroin or cocaine. >> juju: this surveillance video edited and manipulated with ruby passing a usb drive of stolen votes. she explained that it was something completely innocent. >> what was your mom actually handing you on that video? >> a ginger mint. >> juju: the mother and daughter telling abc news exclusively how their lives were turned upside-down by threats from trump supporters. >> they were saying i should be hung. me and my mom will die. burning crosses. a slap in the face. very hateful things. >> they would say racist the stuff. >> juju: in the weeks to follow, it went beyond poll workers. >> the democrats have dead people voting. dead people. you wouldn't believe how many. illegal aliens from out of the state. they will be filling out ballots, for people that don't exist. there's no way we lost georgia. there's no way. that was a rigged election. but we're still fighting it. >> this was a concerted effort, legal, political -- certainly one that involved b

peddling lies about election fraud and falsely accusing poll workers shaye moss and ruby freeman of stealinged questions about the lies he told. >> i will tell you if you, giuliani's fellow lawyers also surrendering. >> sidney powell, who pushed the outrageous conspiracy theory that voting machines were controlled by venezuela and jenna ellis, who falsely claimed ballots were manipulated. sheriff's deputies will be waiting here at the jail to record trump's height and weight fingerprint him and take his mugshot. unlike his other three criminal cases, though, here in georgia, trump does not have to enter a plea in court right away . instead, the da wants him back here in two weeks for arraignment. if the judge agrees there would be cameras in court for that. there is one other piece of news about trump's former chief of staff, mark meadows. he's been trying to move this case into federal court. and while the judge did not immediately rule, he did say it should not keep meadows from surrendering. so he is due here by noon on friday. aaron katersky, abc news, atlanta. >> aaron, thank you. want

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president of the united states booked into the fulton county jail but for the sake of ruby freeman, shaye moss and so many others who have just been subjected to all of that has happened, has transpired. i think this is a testament to the fact that our justice system is fine. >> and of course you're referring to the election workers who were targeted not just by the former president but by so many members of his inner circle at the time, people who have also, you know, walked into the fulton county jail to be booked and arrested. what's that like, do you think, for those election workers who were just doing, you know, their civic duty when they were harassed and bullied and intimidated and threatened? >> well, i had an opportunity to meet them when they were honored at the white house by president biden, and they really are salt of the earth women, very warm spirits. and they seem to be very humble in watching their testimony, not attention that they wanted at all. i would assume that this has to give them some comfort, but i don't think that there's anything that will erase the pain and

i did not have it as bad as ruby freeman or shaye moss and my heart goes out to them.gia. but by showing up that day at the georgia capitol when i was surprised, i had no forewarning that rudy giuliani and jenna ellis and the rest of the crew were going to be showing up at this state senate subcommittee hearing that i was a member of, when i pushed back on the lies that -- the myths they were bringing before us that hearing, instantaneously i too became a target online and i say a bomb got dropped on my life because our family ended up having to have some police protection for the next, you know, month or so. >> so, gene, you can take the next question. but when you look at what has happened to some of these people's lives and also many are mentioned here, many republicans as well as democrats, and just innocent citizens who held the line in the process, and then if you read in the indictment of the chairwoman of the republican party, ronna mcdaniel, is mentioned because trump and john eastman reached out to her and they wanted her to figure out a way to get certain in

before a state senate committee pushing falsehoods of fraud that two poll workers, ruby freeman and shaye moss, say upended their lives. now, fulton county district attorney fani willis will present the case to a grand jury. several witnesses say they've been called to testify, including georgia's former lt. governor geoff duncan and george chidi, a journalist and fox atlanta contributor who stumbled into a meeting of alternate trump electors at the state capitol. trump has signaled he expects to be indicted but denies any wrongdoing. >> we don't take plea deals because i did nothing wrong. >> reporter: campaigning in iowa this weekend, he stood firm in his false claims about the last election. >> a lot of bad things took place during that election. >> reporter: the grand jury getting ready to convene here, they put these orange barriers around the courthouse. by tomorrow, the street in front will be closed. the prospect of an indictment in a fourth case for trump does not appear to be hurting him politically. he has a big lead, according to the polls, against his republican rivals. and h

. >> reporter: and falsely accusing poll workers shaye moss and ruby freeman of stealing votes. >> quite obviously passing around usb ports as if they are vials of heroin or cocaine. >> reporter: today, giuliani ignored questions about the lies he told. >> i will tell you -- >> do you still believe the election was stolen? >> reporter: giuliani's fellow lawyers also surrendering today. sidney powell, who pushed the outrageous conspiracy theory that voting machines were controlled by venezuela. and jenna ellis, who falsely claimed ballots were manipulated. tomorrow, it's trump's turn. the accused leader of the alleged criminal conspiracy saying, "i will proudly be arrested tomorrow afternoon in georgia." >> david: so, let's get right to aaron katersky, live again tonight in atlanta. and aaron, what can we expect tomorrow when the former president arrives at the fulton county jail there? >> reporter: sheriff's deputies will be waiting here, david, to report trump's height and weight, fingerprint him, and take his mug shot. unlike his other three criminal cases, here in georgia, trump is no

the indictment pointing to his vicious personal attacks on two poll workers, ruby freeman and shaye moss, falsely claiming they were stealing ballots. >> quite obviously passing around usb ports as if they are vials of heroin or cocaine. >> reporter: today, giuliani defending himself. >> i'm indicted for being his lawyer. i never thought i'd be indicted for being a lawyer. >> reporter: district attorney willis says she wants to try this case in six months. and it could all play out in front of cameras. she was asked if she wants to try all 19 defendants at the same time. >> do i intend to try the 19 defendants in this indictment together? yes. >> david: let's bring in aaron katersky, live from atlanta tonight. aaron, when do we expect to see donald trump and the alleged co-conspirators in court? >> reporter: they've been given the deadline of noon next friday, david. trump hasn't said when he's going to show up, but when he does, it's going to be because of his own words. the indictment mentioning the 11 phone calls, trying to strong-arm republican officials. but tonight, david, the repu

you could see the devastation in shaye moss, the daughter's face, when she testified.his will be a monetary judgment. the judge has entered a default judgment as the result of dpul giuliani's effort to be too cute by half with his discovery strategy, trying to hold out enough to preserve some issues on appeal, while trying to slide by in discovery. all that's left is to decide how much he will have to pay these two women in damages. of course, the judge's parting shot on the way out the door was to require giuliani to pay their attorneys' fees, as well. >> joyce, we know from this that the law does work eventually, and it has worked in this case. a judge finds him liable for defamation. but my question to you is the time involved now. these women have already lost a lot, including, as you pointed out, their reputation and the fear of just going around the town that they live in. what happens to rudy giuliani in terms of the time he's going to be given to find some money to pay them, whatever the fine, whatever the judge assesses, and what will happen to him in terms of

starting with number 45 and high school -- his ally rudy giuliani decided to scapegoat my and my daughter shaye. >> the women's attorney calls the ruling a step in the right direction but says rudy giuliani has more work to do. >> only he can explain why he has made the strategic decisions that he has made to show up and litigate this case, but just not turnover any of the discovery and evidence that we asked for and to not comply with the court's orders for everything from producing basic documents to us on his financial condition to paying us $89,000 in attorneys' fees that he was required to pay us and still hasn't. so i don't know why he has chosen this path. i can't speak for him or the strategic decisions he's making. but it has not been a very effective strategy, liability is now established and we really look forward to being able to put forward our damages case and to pu pursue that over the coming months. >>> american airlines flight attendants are the latest aviation workers to vote in favor of a strike. >> it doesn't mean a strim ke i imminent. earlier this year pilots voted to auth

. >> georgia election worker shaye moss testified before the house select committee about threats shereats wishing death upon me, telling me that i'll be in jail with my mother. >> these threats happened after rudy giuliani spread lies about her and her mother, ruby freeman, who was counting votes with moss at state farm arena in atlanta on election night. >> tape earlier in the day of ruby freeman and shaye freeman moss and one other gentleman quite obviously surreptitiously passing around usb ports as if they're vials of heroin or cocaine. i mean, it's obvious to anyone who's a criminal investigator or prosecutor, they are engaged in surreptitious illegal activity. >> what was your mom actually handing you on that video? >> a ginger mint. this turned my life upside down. i don't want anyone knowing my name. i don't want to go anywhere with my mom because she might yell my name out over the grocery aisle or something. i haven't been anywhere at all. i gained about 60 pounds. this affects my life in a major way. >> congressman adam kinzinger of illinois, the only republican on the jan

i did not have it as bad as ruby freeman or shaye moss. and my heart goes out to them.enator here in georgia, but but showing up that day at the georgia capital when i was surprised, i had no forewarning that rudy giuliani and jenna ellis and the rest of the crew were going to be showing up at this state senate subcommittee hearing that i was a member of. when i push back on the lies that they were bringing before us during that hearing, instantaneously i too became a target online and i say that a bomb got dropped on my life because our family ended up having to have some police protection for the next month or so. >> so gene, you can take the next question, but when you look at what is happiness on these peoples lives and also many are mentioned here. many republicans as well as democrats and just innocent citizens who held the line in the process, and then if you read in the indictment, the chairwoman of the republican party, run in mcdaniel is mentioned because trump and john eastman reached out to her and they wanted her to figure out a way to get certain individua

i was happy to see that ruby freeman and shaye moss made a central appearance in this indictment, becausewere attacked and there was an attempt to coerce them, to intimidate them, to solicit their involvement in abandoning the legitimate democratic election and caving into this conspiracy, which was conducted by an interstate racketeering organization that was put together by donald trump to try to overthrow the election. so to me it was moving to me, this indictment. >> the knock that i have heard, that you heard lindsey graham right now, you heard him talk about liberal jurisdictions. there's a bit of, my point, bad faith, heads i win tails eyelids, which is that if a local prosecutor does it it's a local prosecution that's illiberal jurisdiction, if is the actual department of justice, it's the weaponized department. so they're both rendered illegitimate and their own way. but i'm curious, as a constitutional scholar, someone who sat in the first branch of government in this investigative special committee body that went through this, the importance of fulton county, the importance of

giuliani accused ruby freeman and her daughter shaye moss of committing fraud as they tallied ballots in atlanta during the 2020 election. it was part of the trump team's effort to overturn the former president's loss in georgia. wednesday's ruling means the defamation case against giuliani can proceed to a trial, where -- which will determine damages. they are seeking millions of dollars. and in brazil, indigenous groups from around the country rallied in brasilia wednesday as the country's supreme court resumed hearings yesterday in a pivotal case that could strip indigenous rights to their ancestral lands. the case is being pushed by agribusiness-backed lawmakers who argue native groups are only entitled to land that they physically occupied when the 1988 constitution was signed. many indigenous communities were expelled from their ancestral land over the years, including during the military dictatorship. this is joenia wapichana, a member of the wapixana tribe and president of the national commission for the defense of the rights of indigenous peoples. >> there is a constitution a

misrepresented as evidence of fraud, two of the women counting ballots, ruby freeman and her daughter, shayes, were doxed. their faces, names, addresses, phone numbers shared online. a motley crew emerged phoning freeman and showing up at her home. steven lee, a pastor from suburban chicago, parked outside freeman's house until she dialed 911. >> my name's steve lee. >> yep. >> and i'm a pastor. and i'm also working with some folks who are trying to help ruby out. >> okay. >> okay? and also get some truth on what's going on. it would be nice if i could talk to her. >> i don't talk to nobody. >> okay. so you don't want to talk to him? no? okay. >> yeah, i'm not interested. i have a pastor. >> okay. yes, ma'am. >> reporter: almost three weeks later trevian kutti, a publicist who had previously done work for r. kelly and kanye west, also showed up in georgia. freeman agreed to talk to kutti at a police precinct. according to court documents kutti allegedly pressured freeman. offering her protection if she would confess to engaging in election fraud, even though freeman had done nothing wrong. >