reaches five trillion, china would between india and china is still going to be huge have crossed 25 trillion. so that's still a major difference india would have the opportunity to say that we are right behind us and china, but yet india is still way behind us and china. so um as far as the feeling is concerned, yes, it's there. but um india is not going to stand parallel with china. and maybe that's also a reason that i wanted to ask you here in the west. at least there's not this rhetoric of indndia being a big threat as we often hear it with china. do you think that's because of the of indndia being a big threat as we often hear same reason that they're not really equal, they are not really equal? and ii, i don't, i mean, i can see felix's point that, that china doesn't perceive india really as a threat but, but, but i do think there is a rivalry and, and, and, and your colleague in delhi mentioned that um and, and, and i do think china is taking this rival seriously. ok, there's still a very different sort of proportion, but india has the advantage that

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and that structural rebalancing is going on between china and india. l take some time to settle down but we in asia should work harder to find ways and means of getting along. if china and india get along, you will have a great time in asia. if they don't, you will have a challenging time. rishaad: keep your answer brief, i want to get a sense of course territorial disputes between beijing and delhi, but is it also at the end of the day perhaps an issue over supremacy in the region or on the continent of asia? >> well, yes and no. because china is going to become the number one economy in the world eventually made so china's global influence for a long time will be larger than india, although india's regional influence could be significant as that of china. remember, we are going through a massive great power transition. we have not seen this energy for a long time. we live in unusual times, you must understand that. look at the long-term trends also. rishaad: ok, let's look at brexit where they had reproach. is it feasible? it looks like the nonaligned

india. it doesn't really want to trade with china. that's another huge advantage. india has at the moment, i mean, they may think they, they could spa, that's the relatively quick relationship. but i mean there are lots the india has at the moment, quite a lot of things going full for the country. and however, we were talking about that when we talk about china, we talk very differently about india in many parts of the world. do you think there's sort of a double standard taking into consideration that not into ammonia is also being criticized in many respects. we just saw it in the piece of the way the minorities are treated as a way political opponents are treated. is there a double standard in europe and no, it's because there is a huge difference. i mean, uh yes, uh there are also human rights problems in your have, but india is a functioning democracy in china. is not an even worse. it we. so if i called the one party dictatorship, we must say now it's a one person dictatorship. so it's a pure dictatorship, it has become a pure di

neither is china with the pro, that's those for india. and we've seen this new uh, got the map that has come up, that china has shown data trees that are disputed and they're part of china in them up an industrial concerns over there. but it can be done because it's dispute dictated to me. and despite that, none of them have stopped the china investor talking, but the she just thing is coming to a g. 20 or not be a student and tops. and they're also not clubbing together against the west. they have the one inches, but they're meeting each other in issue of their meeting each other in a deep windy. so it's a strange, a modem that uh the global sold is witnessing right now. the question of course here would also be whether india is a true alternative to investments in china to trade with china, even as a lender of phoenix. what's your take on that for the rest of the work? it's always good not to focus on trying to. so much on china as a germany economy has done in the last 2 dictates. so uh, in the uh, should be more on the focus. it's a wo

were to imagine america's nightmare scenario in terms of geopolitics, it would be that india moves closer to chinaing that nightmare scenario, the united states has to do what it can to bring india onside, which means increased defence ties, increased technology ties, cooperating on the quad and other such blocs and alliances, as the world fractures in the way i was just describing. for india as well, you know, one of its greatest foreign policy challenges today is its unresolved border dispute with china. so, you know, for india as well, if you put on a hard sort of realist hat, it makes a lot more sense to ally more closely with the united states, while still continuing to pick and choose various areas where you speak out on issues the united states wants you to. so climate change, for example, india seems to be all in on cooperating with the united states. but when it comes to russia, as we were just discussing, maybe not. all of that said, this relationship seems to be going from strength to strength in both countries, that is immensely domestically popular to champion the relationship between

china. let's shift the perspective to india because from what we're hearing, china does not really seem to see in the as a big threat. but sometimes that at least i have the perception that the rhetoric and india could be a little bit different. talk us through how the perception is in the country in this image of india, as a rising superpower, maybe of the driving silva bower. and the next biggest thing that is something that is being sold a lot here. and that has also got to do with the elections that are coming up next year. and in fact, hosting g 20 in day me, which is a very difficult task in a city such as daddy. that is also a sign that the more the goldman wanted to give to the people here that if we can do this and we can manage those and me and my government, we can actually, if they can get to places. so that is the, the feeling right now and in their goal to talking about uh, becoming the toward most important um economy. in the next few years, we're talking about 2027 already. and although there are a lot of studies that show that even if you have to just go as state to school, it

product safety and , accordingly, they are working at their level with the relevant bodies of china, indiaries to recognize the quality of our safety of our products, this is a key point, after that you can actually conduct ot for example, for china, our crops are even checked, it seems that samples are taken from crops of corn, barley, and in order to check that there are no quarantine organisms that are not allowed, for example, in china , so this is the first thing that allows us to open the gates. in order to trade with china further, in principle, business directly with private international companies is already included , including in order to conclude contracts and carry out these deliveries. so we almost never stopped supplying to china for example, within the framework of the same grain agreement, 33 million 8 million tons went to china. and now we also continue to export accordingly. of course, such parties that china needs need to form large vessels and their vessels and weak vessels to form, for example in the ports of the danube it is impossible, that is why this formation tak

so india, china has disputes, as you know, over territory in china, claims a lot of land in india. they have fought conflicts at their border with violence in 2020. so while you have rivalry in space, which includes space, technology, space, demonstration of missions, getting some refers now, india is also on the moon. and as you know, china's teller for proven chung, or 5 groups successfully run to the moon. so in some sense, the border conflict, the fact that it's the hub conflict between china and india does reflect in space and vice versa. so i see it being inter connected to a large extent number of have some discoveries in space affect the way that we live on this. but how much of space exploration is really about politics, bravado, and flexing, if you like, on the world stage. so in today's actually one, 0, that would have been very much true during the cold war with nations actually demonstrated capability, for example, the us and the are so us, so with union to showcase exactly what you said. but in 2 days, context, taxpayers are much more intense in questioning emissions.

_ of how india is merging another china has— of how india is merging another china haser it is some kind of— china has fallen, whether it is some kind of financial infrastructure, more _ kind of financial infrastructure, more in — kind of financial infrastructure, more in party with the us, with a surm— more in party with the us, with a supply chain issues they are trying to resolve, — supply chain issues they are trying to resolve, it is certainly time for india _ to resolve, it is certainly time for india to _ to resolve, it is certainly time for india to highlight the fact that as the world looks to do the rest of china, _ the world looks to do the rest of china, because of the national security— china, because of the national security concerns, they can offer a route _ security concerns, they can offer a route for— security concerns, they can offer a route for growth. —— the invest. —— devest _ route for growth. -- the invest. -- devest. �* . , route for growth. -- the invest. -- devest. �* ., , ., ., devest. and as pointed out earlier b emil devest. and as pointed

office of the president of ukraine mykhailo podolyak, who said that the intellectual level of india and chinaite low and they cannot calculate their future there. i suggest watching this fragment separately because it is magical, just what is the problem of india and china and so on, the problem with the text is that they do not analyze the consequences of their own steps, the weak intellectual potential of these countries unfortunately, yes, they invest in science , yes, india sent a spacecraft today is already traveling on the surface of the moon, but this does not mean that this country understands exactly what the modern world is like. these countries are making money today on this war . they are effectively making money in the same way as the turkish republic . over the intelligence of those who live in india or china when they launch into satellites and we, in principle, cannot master a normal rocket program and create rockets that flew to moscow well, it also seems to it's funny on the one hand and on the other hand the representatives of india and china are outraged because this is th

prime minister of india or this is a loss for china, definitely a loss because in recent years we havethe united states and india, and we see this very well . be that as it may, but these countries they defend , they profess that they are the largest democratic countries, and india is proud, constantly emphasizes that we are the largest democracy in the world, and that is why they must defend and protect this democracy, and before the father of authoritarian regimes is also, that is, there is something to talk about, there are common values ​​that unite them and there are issues of geopolitics that also unite them, and therefore, look, what is the role of the dawn of india's democracy. so, first of all, it is a democratic country, if it is not surprising for us it sounded like that, sometimes we don't interpret it, we don't look at india as such but nevertheless, firstly and secondly , what is the economic role of india in your opinion in the modern world, because we are used to it and even i said in the previous floor when asked that china is the second economy world we are really use

well, at the moment the india china relationship is in bad shape is a massive border dispute. we just so recently when china published a new national map showing that it claims an entire indian state of a rule, not child protection in the northeast of india. but also i think the fact that india is positioning itself and using this g 20 summit strongly to business itself as the voice of the global house, we're going to hear a lot about that well this weekend. and the thing is that china also wants to position itself as the voice of the global so. so i think for all the time that we spend talking about the us, china rifle re, i think this weekend we're beginning to see how important also the china india rifle rate is to shaping the future of world defense. and richard, just briefly, before we go, um we've mentioned the war and ukraine overshadowing this whole summit. india does seem to want a joint communicate here. do we know how difficult that's going to be? yeah, it's tough. last year they just about managed it. it was again, so the olds, a joint communicate, did come out wit

very 20 features the biggest economies, including the us, china and the european union, as well as emerging players like india, brazil, and turkey. us president joe biden landed in delhi in the last hour or 2 thirds of the world population are going to be represented at this summit, but the leaders of china and russia are not attending. and let's find out more about that and bring indeed all these chief international editor richard walker, reporting from delhi for us. hi, richard. jo biden's just arrived. now we understand before the stomach kicks off, he's going to be meeting with india is prime minister and run from modi. do we know what they will be talking about? given so i clicked and to emoji and biden met just recently in washington, a sign of the real low growing closeness between india and the united states. and the american side to saying that they're going to be picking up on a lot of conversations loves the agreements they made during that meeting in washington dc earlier in. yeah. and they're a range of issues the, i'm sorry, big steps. like, for instance, an agreement to have a american fighter

so that's why oh, this friction for them between china and india or india. in fact, the stock should be a part from the more so really the hard because i mean russia and china also had, i think, roughly 8000 border disappear and disagreements. and yet there was a painstaking process of addressing those. and these countries now have a very defined, developed relationship when they have, let's say, 20 years ago, shouldn't be put on hold, or rather what, what is in the way of india in china, you know, coming together looking at the border disputes and also looking at the you know, all the potential benefits that them missing hours for this is very of the particularly is very the individual cities are for somebody who speak about the washington the sedation or many years ago. we had a lot of problems, but look at the presentation creation. oh, problems already regulated by agreements and 1st of all by the communications rushing share and um, i really need to how to go behind all these programs because we have much more in for the final task. if i know goals wider

even though some of the main members restaurant china, india in brazil, south africa, all in both formats. what do you seeing is the difference in what they did arrive from participating in both on facebook? i think the word has come together to tank game via for hosting a very event for very your, for a very indian, the style, little more the style you can say last evening i just clicked on google to see something of that about due to india and the very 1st news was ocean preston's website. does it turn to the duration? is there any to, to me, this mess? i wish i has accepted it this. i mean, they're very happy with the different. even the time is media, they have come onto the stage when that is supposed to just signal for the words and the goal and bring it to 6 portions of was if it was at one place, i could just feel like maybe yes, somebody might been evicted, but the, you who's part of the world was a new tally. you know, from everywhere we did myspace stance from 2 big guns is a, well, a lot of it. so that's an interesting move it in history or for my country in the last 75 years

that russia switched from the sick part of the global economy to the healthy one, that is, to china, indiathe transformation was successful, while something else was said opinion, sergei sobyanin stated that there is nothing to count on globalization at all, that it is so easy for us even china won’t give you technology, then you come out and say it’s too early to rejoice, it’s really too early, you know, both are right , of course, on the one hand, you can’t count on globalization, that’s what we counted on before, when we largely supplied raw materials and received all the technologies , ready-made products, on the other hand, of course, it is true that today it is impossible to do everything alone, and of course, the division of labor remains, so of course, we also have many partners today. and more than 100 countries that have not joined sanction, these are our trade, economic, financial partners today, and we are working with them and will continue to work, so, but we must learn from experience from the past, and of course, we, along with production, energy resources and various types

for some reason, it seems to me that the chinese will very quickly figure out china india and producely the same spare parts, but without this surcharge of 8,000, so it’s worse for a manufacturer located in the european union at the moment, because it will become uncompetitive at a price that will be too , expensive logistics, because it's one thing to bring from china there, for example, through the north of europe to pack your beautiful wrappers. anyway, from china, you china will conduct all this directly in poland, after all, there are about 400 enterprises, only in poland it works very closely not only with belarus, but also through belarus directly. that is, as i understand it, this is a problem and their will be fully to the extent. why would she have catherine you are the chairman of the association of professional passenger carriers? with experience and directly speaking with a firm position, a restless lawyer. as they say, some, however, i understand that in the same poland elections are coming soon and it is necessary to create the illusion of a certain concern for their ow

and the china, this bid mom, can buddha allow us indo china or india? it was one of demand later in the janet what congress and this in bundling, we really decided to come out for the non 11 woman. so the headlines up to 20 in new delhi is that maybe india is coming back as though a smoke solution for those solids for the developing what, of course, any going to the big like india, they don't seem to become, as i'm and busters, or some global lead is so we invited for the big things, but in the other day, i am personally very good to go because in the eyes, all of us denies. everything is in a copy it from a canadian america. now you get it cause issues and which is not helping the people who live in something like pies like we have been was. so for me, china is a bond korea and all assume countries the side to was to nice. but then the, you know, the ability to go, so there were some, as in, very far than this to you to immunize like, you know, all is going in but direction. it is rest, amazing, but a primary some movie and his team, you know, that ser

china. for now it's a, it's been, is being balance. but do you think that americans get all for india anything to express to, to sort of the code the more expressly into the western county, not at all. if anybody in the shows wasn't india for 75 years. this is not the 1st time. in fact, publish a manual as a rental usa, he's good, very good. welcome. i like it and deal because we shared the colonial background out the colonized by the british vehicle nice by division. so to be honest, i spend some time in usaa, you're also studying usa, they're like india. i'm sorry, i'm reading this not every day when indians doing discrete sheila's them yesterday, when in good was good and usa. so you know, the way to look at the tanks, so many americans and does they have some connection at all because of silicon valley because to begin with is super huge. so what i'm douglas is that we divided already look at the problem in an engine america sputtering degree and or defense that good. it is quite different. we used to buy everything from bradshaw, all the somebody's or the guys know the shows mode

so coming back to the y and the address is very important for rochelle, for china, india, china. i send a statement that the time is goal of you know, i'm dizzy. the millennium build up in goal is very much matching with just rented. what was the question with china is almost achieving all those started goals. and then the, i just was even off of them if this one was, if it's the one to show one comments to say, i think it's, i don't think we're talking invested in the studio or the studio and basing the studio. we're talking with some common points that we have to make sure that we are growing all you type it in a good environment and our end qualities lives. so that doesn't really start the time. which unusual is the combination of. so whether i wasn't john's word for the big some h r, i missed a z 20. i think there's a lot of them, but this was the trend is like, i give you one example english and language that they don't is all about bruce let . and um, the whole address yeah. mix is about forest. so bridges more focused on salt salt on on this part of was. so this a very goo

you as president joe biden is in india for the g. 20 summit with the leaders of china and russia, skipping the meeting bite, and is expected to push for other nations to back his views on issues like climate change and the war. and you're also coming up on the show, a new biography of evil on mosques as he switched off his star link satellite communications to limit ukraine's ability to attack russian forces the quite richardson welcome world. leaders are gathering in india for a summit of the g. 20 group of leading nations. they will address divisions over the war, ukraine and other key issues. the g 20 is made up of the biggest economies, including the us, china and the european union, as well as emerging players like india, brazil, and turkey. u. s. president joe biden has already met with the indian prime minister and to render moody. 2 thirds of the world's population is represented at the summit, but the leaders of china and russia are not attending. database chief international editor richard walker is in delhi. he told me more about talks between joe biden and it is prime minister

so that's why, oh, this friction for them between china and india or indian park, the stock should be a part from the more. so really the hard because i mean russia and china also have, i think roughly a 1000 border disappear and disagreements. and yet, there was a painstaking process of addressing those. and these countries now have a very different develop relationship on what they have, let's say 20 years ago. shouldn't be put on hold or rather what, what is in the way of india in china, you know, coming together looking at the border disputes and also looking at the, you know, all the potential benefits that they're missing our, of this piece is very of the particularly is very, the individual said, these are for somebody who speak about the rushing to a new sedation or many years ago we had a lot of problems, but look at the present a situation. but oh, problems are already regulated by agreements. and 1st of all, by the communications rushing, ensure and learning how to go behind all these problems because we have much more need for the final task. if i know goals, why do thing,

and this includes india and china in particular, but we compete for the attention of these countries eady arrived . and we also have some points from the peace plan that is why we support china under such conditions. every word and every wording must be approached very carefully, and if this is a government team , then i think that a clear line should be drawn here, and it should come from professional profilers. departments, in particular, from the ministry of foreign affairs to these, well, if only professional profile positions, they should be taken into account, well, in their interview comments, probably all those who are related to the president's team and those who can comment on it, so you just have to be very careful here because if we even take away the words about the intellectual level there and simply take it as a fact that it is true that china and india have economic relations with russia, they do not support sanctions, but still we must treat these countries with the same attention what does the ministry of foreign affairs do, but all the others, well, if the official

and china would like to be leaders of the global south. and by india, by making the global south as the top of the agenda at this g 20 summit is sending a message to china. it's a message may be china, doesn't like me. i'm going to one imagines that ukraine will be discussed, of course, but any joint statement will be difficult to agree on. despite the absence of vladimir put in, can we expect anything substantive on the war to come out of this summer? the windows one use paper headline which summed up the situation really well. it said the word is here, but red is the was on ukraine. and that exemplifies actually the deep divisions that exist within members of the g 20 not the lead negotiator for india. i mean the cons who is just a we spoke yesterday and said that is a draft communicate which is being sent to the latest, the latest have to go through that and then either accepted or for for some revisions. so this seems to be very close. everybody is, nobody wants to be a d break at this time, but the divisions are serious for china. i have said it w

seen such a thing in the history of symphony orchestras and also in the history of mankind when india and chinare next to each other . india is a democracy, well, conditional, of course, a discussion is possible here, but definitely china is not a democrat and they are proportional in the economy, they have a lot of people and they have a lot, so to speak this movement does not have attached movement no reconnection and masha are waving their hands and the same countries that you just said about my pal over there and china is walking around somewhere and says no-no-no wait wait here we also have a small claim what do you say two conductors on this orchestra well this means that it will not be a symphony, there will be a cacophony at least a-a well, if it is on the carphone, then at least there will be disharmony, this is where harmony is now manifested in all international relations , primarily political, economic , military-political, moreover, we are now observing the growth of the military budgets of all countries are massively arming themselves, strengthening their defense capabilities, mod

certainly in terms of action, there doesn't appear to be a desire to de—risk from either china or india the comparative economic trajectories of china and india figure in the politics this weekend. it figure in the politics this weekend-— figure in the politics this weekend. , , ., weekend. it is significant. for india weekend. it is significant. for india playing _ weekend. it is significant. for india playing host— weekend. it is significant. for india playing host is- weekend. it is significant. for india playing host is a - weekend. it is significant. for india playing host is a very i india playing host is a very significant diplomatic victory, and india is the only major economy that the international monetary fund tracks. this year and next year is projected to grow faster than china. it comes at a time when china is facing a quite formidable series of growth headwinds. india will use its hosting to tout its favourable demographic trajectory, growth trajectory and position itself as being more of a champion of priorities for the developing world and the global south more broadly.

so china is helping damian infrastructure. india is how big they mean education sector that shows has been done mean 35, those at the machinery, the mining the oil and all this. china, india, a show is very important in africa because you don't know if it goes green very fast, china to show and be go it and it is slowly a free guys going to go at 6 to 7 percent, lot of up to 30 for us for me this concept is all about inviting people from those countries to speak. they might.

and uh, do you think that this for them here could be the place for countries like china, india, and goalie a, are the big nations regional super powers of to include russia to, into twining it into the wave of the, into the business we of the region yeah, i think the could be and, and a higher percentage off a possibility cause a cause a, i s, i lost the i a such f as is. yeah. so you said you have to, in the session, you know, panel i said friday was took, could be a new home call. all 5 north east at asia. we chase to international financial center. east brought us to compose the new opening off a part is a like phone call. if you look at a phone call history, a 919 seventies. now a phone call totally opened up and then more and more investments. uh, go to uh home. com and then a look at, look at solutions and uh, ignite the eighty's. so don't hold pop a demo at all. you invest more and more money into us ends up being 90. 80 is $99.00 piece and looking at a total some high. so it does the same, the same logic. i think that that it depends. it depends on the new uh, opening up a p

but in terms of india, china, russia, india is depending on russia. we know that symbols in terms of the con climate. there's a few outliers, the u. k, as usual for is not a problem is potentially speaking about. so there's a few sort of outlaws and tons of new here, but actually when one thinks about to net 0, the international energy agency states very clearly the renewables will do the heavy lifting for net 0, the energy transition. what's the single biggest thing that you want our viewers to remember about this when they're thinking about uranium prices and what you said about, you know, where things are headed in the short to medium term in the short term year is probably a good bets. but then the model, you know, we know that model is based on proven boss. a way to say say that the risk associated with this. but the market is the market. the reality is where we're going with net 0. the reality is, is that, unfortunately what you might need to, or you don't, it seems very likely that nuclear is just too late for the climate of the energy process.

so coming back to the y and z 20 is very important for rochelle, for china, india, china. i send a statement that the time is goal of you know, i'm dizzy. the millennium developing goal is very much matching with just rented what was the course you have? china is almost achieving all those started goals. and in the i just as have been off of them if this one was, if it's the one to show one common future. i think, i don't think we're talking english in the studio or talking to new the studio and basing the studio. we're talking with some common points that we have to make sure that we are growing all your time in a good environment. and our invoice is nice. so that is the website design, which unusual is the combination of. so whether i wasn't john's word for the big some h r, i missed a z 20. i think the lot of them, but this was the trend is like, i give you one example english a language that they don't is all about little slot and i'm the horrid ass. yeah. mix is about friday's. so bridges more focused on salt salt on on this part of was . so this a very good example.

three chessboards at once, that is, on the one hand, india would like to play with the united states and the civilized world and gradually push china away from the trough, which is called world production with a low added value of labor, that is, india would like to, but there is one moment that is, this is the structure of the internal social, this is the structure of the academic university, that is, to what extent will this indian workforce be ahead of the chinese. yes , we cannot just take it here and there you know, and transfer production well, iphones are also aware yes where where is a large part of iphones produced , i.e. in taiwan, but taiwan also has production in india and this one thing leads to another, but it is extremely serious what is it called, well, not a yellow card, but an unequivocal chinese hint well, beijing is being hinted in chinese that if you can enter global politics, you and i can enter the global economy from us, a professor at the national university of lviv polytechnic, as well as the head of the ukrainian delegation to the nato parliamentary assemblies in 2018-2019 and a member of the network for

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of propaganda videos, but... well, in general, this is absolutely a khan attack in relation to china, indiaese foreign ministry made a statement, they should not have demanded to clarify what mr. podolyak meant and who is he anyway? i think that we will expect the same statement from india, and in fact it is very untimely at a time when ukraine, er, needs such consolidation and the next round of the world and not to fall off the agenda of the world, because now the number of people who support us is falling and this it is obvious that we must make efforts to get more friends, they are more enemies. i will only say this at the end because we do not have much time. unfortunately, at one time , a team was given who has the right to represent ukraine, roughly speaking, on the diplomatic front. to make certain statements, well, these were definitely not people of the level of advisors to the head of the entire president or the president of ukraine. it was either the minister of foreign affairs of the president of ukraine. i am here . therefore, it is very strange for me when such free artists, w