today it includes mutton kufta, rogan josh, a mutton stew that is the hallmark of kashmir.t. each region of india has its own specific thali, but in general the word thali simply means a plate on which any set can be served, this is what we just prepared in the kitchen, it even looks spicy, but i’ll try the taste . lentils, beans, mung beans, all types of peas, all together or separately, the main ingredients for dal, thick soup or puree, which in india will feed anyone, pangat. or community kitchen - the heart of every sikh temple, washed beans are soaked for an hour, after which they are boiled for about 30 minutes, during which time a special dressing is prepared from onions, garlic, ginger and green chilies fried in ghee, and of course spices, several types of pepper, turmeric, cinnamon mixtures of our own production, another 15 minutes and the dal is ready.com, this dal, i don’t know what to compare with you, we received the blessing for this recipe from our guru, i cook dal in our temple for 15 years now, it is prepared in approximately the same way in every house in

. >> let's get some perspective now from washington post columnist josh rogan. as for being with us. president biden says he has made a decision. on the u.s. response, would not go into detail. what do you anticipate this will look like? >> reading the tea leaves based on what president biden said, when he was indicating, it's seems as if he is backing away from the most aggressive option. if you had to guess, it would be that they've decide to attack in places like syria and iraq but not actually cross and attack inside iran here could make sense of what we know is going on. the administration now, the good news is that there's plenty of good targets. plenty of iranian backed militia men all over the reagan -- region. syria, a little more tricky. lebanon, more tricky. you will see a wide array of attack but i could be wrong. that seems to be what biden is telling us. >> what you make of this passive-aggressive policy with iran? they don't want to direct policy -- conflict with the united states. what you think it would actually take to deter iran? >> right. two

josh rogan of the washington post, thank you very much for your time. appreciate your thoughts today. >>> we want to pivot now to the border crisis here in the united states. at this moment, leaders in congress towns and coastal cities, they all have one thing in common. they are grappling with a record surge of immigration. this is just one snapshot. in december, monthly encounters it clipped the 225,000. the highest in over two decades. zooming out, each of the past three years, has sent an annual record for border crossings. it nearly 2.5 million. that's in the year. last month's record numbers are not actually included in this set. this will be part of the 2024 game. >> staggering numbers are part of the house republicans justifications for formal impeachment proceedings against the homeland security secretary. even as he continues his central role in those border talks with senators. the big question now, is whether the house gop will be backing a border deal. those numbered negotiations resume. they have some of those 60 house fellow republicans.

and joining me now is the author of chaos under heaven, josh rogan. good to see you again.o i said the risk of the war in gaza triggering a wider regional con flick. attacks by the houthis and hezbollah and islamic resistance and u.s. service members injured and irgc members killed. is that conflict here now? >> well, victor, yes, i think it is here and it has been here for several weeks if not months. 140 attacks on u.s. troops in iraq and syria since the israel gaza war began. that averages ought to more than one a day and now we see the retaliation by the american and israeli forces getting larger and larger and the retaliation getting larger and larger. it hasn't expanded into a full out war between the united states and iran. that is the -- what i think all sides are trying to avoid. but with these latest missile strikes, the attack on u.s. forces that resulted in multiple injuries, we could see that this is slowly but surely getting much, much worse. and neither side knows where the other side's red lines are. neither side has a perfect understanding of how to contain

. >> so "washington post" columnist josh rogan, who is a supporter of israel, but also cares about theestinian people, he points out that unrwa also supports an additional 3 million palestinians in jordan, and lebanon, and syria, and the suspension of unrwa funding would mean the biden administration is placing more burden on regional partners that are already dealing with the added risk and instability caused by the growing regional violence. what do you make of just that argument, like, aside from gaza, that unrwa -- >> elsewhere. yeah, let's take jordan, for example. a terrific example that josh brought. there are about 2 million so-called palestinian refugees in jordan. most of them have jordanian citizenship. my great grandparents fled russian persecution to canada in 1904. i'm not a russian refugee. my family has been canadian for over a century. if somebody has been in jordan for over 70 years, has citizenship, why are they refugees from tel aviv? they're not refugees. let's help them, give the money to the jordanian government. we have an established government there. let them