constitutional law scholar kate shaw who also happens to be his wife.ne has them. we are going to talk about the election that's coming up and particularly the legal landscape around it. i am thinking about, been a practitioner too. your previous life you worked in the campaign and transition and the white house counsel office. i wanted to start with a question about, how folks that are not legal experts watching, what you are looking for in terms of issue spotting.? there's a lot of election -- it was all frivolous and didn't amount to anything. what are you looking out for in the legal landscape now until election day and postelection. >> margins are everything. we have this idea of a margin of litigation. if an election is close enough in a particular state, it could turn it into a w and change the outcome. we were spared having a state within a margin of litigation in 2020. pretty close outcomes in wisconsin and arizona and georgia, but not in the couple hundred votes even though thousand votes which i think my to put us within the margin of litigat

. >> seth: who is -- with your wife kate shaw. >> yes, exactly. >> seth: kate snow is what they callre from the north -- >> wouldn't it be funny if i just went along with it again. >> seth: yeah i know, i love -- you're really -- i will say that your integrity has just been really great tonight. [ laughter ] i would love you less you call me out every time i got a massive fact wrong. [ light laughter ] >> like the name of your wife. >> seth: this i why let me say something no one's going to like. this is why a woman should take a man's last name. [ laughter ] >> yes, so my wife kate shaw and i are going to be doing an event there and yeah, i'm excited for it. >> seth: is she excited? >> that's a great question. [ laughter ] >> seth: 'cause i'm assuming you're running the panel. >> it's very -- yeah, it's just a q&a. we're just gonna talk about stuff. i mean, this is -- she thinks about this stuff all the time. i think about this all the time. so this should be a pretty easy thing. although it is, you know, it is a saturday. i don't know if it counts as a date. >> seth: oh, interestin

coming up chris hayes interviews his wife kate shaw, and we hear from the weekend hosts.k you, thank you. >> thank you! >> this is such a good crowd! okay! >> thank you guys for having us! okay, so let me start with you, claire. vice president harris does not, i mean she obviously would be a historic president on multiple fronts. she doesn't wear that on her sleeve. she didn't wear white the night of her speech. she does not talk often about being the first. what do you think, what does that tell us about her? you know her well. why is that? >> i think she understands that to be elected president of the united states, you first have to convince the american public that you are qualified to do the job, that you are capable of doing the job, and some things can be left unsaid. if you lead with that, then it becomes the topic. she doesn't want the topic to be her gender or whether she is black or whether she's south asian. any of that. she wants the the conversation to be about what she can do for you. that's what she wants the conversation to be about. and the the disciplin

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my brilliant wife, kate shaw. >> we're going to talk about the election coming up and particularly theing about. you've been kind of a practitioner too. you worked in the council's office. i wanted to start with the question about how folks that are not necessarily legal experts were watching this. what you are looking for in terms of election watching. it didn't really amount to anything. but what you're kind of like looking out for in the legal landscape both now to election day and in the postelection period. >> i think at the outset, margins are everything, right. so we had this idea of emergence of litigation. litigation could turn it now into a w. it could actually turn the impact. we were spared being close to litigation in 2020. you had pretty close outcomes in arizona, georgia. but not in the couple hundred votes or low thousand votes which i think might have put us within the margin of litigation. and thus really thrown into question the outcome in those states. >> that is a key point that i've been thinking about ever since she said it. it was a great conversation and great

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kate shaw is a professor of law at the university of pennsylvania. she focuses on reproductive rights and justice. she worked in the obama white house counsel's office. she cohosts the supreme court focused podcast called strict scrutiny. the director of strategic legal advocacy and earth justice. she focuses on anticipating trends in judicial doctrine including the scope of federal power and judicial agency actions. we work with the u.s. department of justice office of legal council. welcome to all of you. each of you will be recognized five minutes. mr. aronson, we will begin with you. >> ranking member grassley and, vice ranking member of casio cortez, thank you for holding this important roundtable. the far right's capture of the supreme court poses an urgent threat to our democracy and shared prosperity. i am heartened that you are giving it the attention it deserves. my name is alex harrison, cofounder and executive director of court accountability. we founded court accountability last year to sound the alarm about the right wing court project.