someone like andy burnham or sir richard lees, who is the leader of manchester city council, they'vemanchester and it shows it can be done. and that's a, you know, a labour politician. so i'm being ecumenical here. you know, it is important that local leaders drive economic growth in their own areas. and too often that doesn't happen. >> let's have a quick look at what you've been saying at home before we go to a quick break, fiery red dragon says, surely we had a baby boom after the war because we lost so many men in that war. many of those people are now getting old and they are dying. we can't feed, clothe, house, etc. the people who are here now, why do we need more people coming here? and they say the argument for paying for pensioners only works if young people are prepared to get a properjob. not the stupid i want to be an influencer. nonsense , i think, yeah, there's nonsense, i think, yeah, there's a lot i can relate. i can agree with their policy. >> i can get behind. yes. >> i can get behind. yes. >> yeah, a lot of people saying that your female guest is talking some loony

we have reported in the last hour the - reported in the last hour the manchester city council have justhe hardship support fund to help some pensioners who are going to lose their winter fuel allowance. i'm just wondering what you think of that? irate just wondering what you think of that? ~ ., ., , ., ., , that? we have made sure that as we make these — that? we have made sure that as we make these hard _ that? we have made sure that as we make these hard decisions _ that? we have made sure that as we make these hard decisions to - that? we have made sure that as we make these hard decisions to get i that? we have made sure that as we| make these hard decisions to get our economy back on track again at that pensioners will have more money, all pensioners will have more money, all pensioners will have more money next year, than they had of this year. that is because we committed to the triple lock. but we also have to take those very tough decisions to make sure our economy can get back on track, because if we keep delaying those decisions like the previous government, we will end up in