. >> welcome to lee andersen's real world. anderson, reform, uk member of parliament for ashfield, and joining me once again this week is doctor lisa mckenzie, a self—proclaimed anarchist. that's right. and he's back. and he he's a what.7 a&e. >> true genius. a local man. local. local man. >> he's been a scaffolder. he's done all sorts. and you've been accusing our guest of being a waspi woman? >> i would never, i would say accuse is a strong word. accuses. it's a bit awkward, and i apologise on her. i'm 68. i'm a 68. >> i'm a. i was born in 68. >> you're not 68? >> you're not 68? >> no, i was born in 68. that's a long way off from the 50s. >> so we've just cleared that. >> so we've just cleared that. >> yeah. i apologise wholeheartedly, woman. >> but, lisa, i think every single frontbencher for the labour party at some stage in the run up to the last election and the one before, said that they would give the waspi women their compensation, which was due. it's unfair, it's terrible, it's wicked, it's horrible. they deserve this

. >> welcome to lee andersen's real world, i'm lee anderson. the reform uk member of parliament for ashfield. and joining me tonight, we've got reem ibrahim who is the communications manager manager of the iea. and he's back. he's been released from the care home. the crusty old left in the corner. i'm still tagged. it's stephen pound. he's got a tag on. listen we're going to talk about immigration numbers. they were out last week. absolutely astonishing figures unbelievable figures. the tories were bad on immigration. labour before them was bad on immigration. nobody out there on the street in the real world actually believes any party. now when they say they're going to control immigration. what is it, stephen, about our political parties, the establishment parliament, when it comes to immigration? you just don't get it. >> well, lee, you said it's unbelievable for me. it's too all believable. the reality is we're talking about 20,000 people now in, in since july of this year. now. okay, you can say that the weather's been very good and every