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guest: so korean conservatism means a harsh line towards north korea, pro-business policy, upholding the u.s.-korea alliance, and maintaining a strong anti-communist stance. so, first for -- the conservatives who ruled from 2008 through 2017 when the previous president was impeached maintain those policies in general. the liberal side, what characterizes south korean liberals is the legacy of pro-democracy activism lives on in the liberal side, primarily. and they want to establish a more equal partnership with the united states in the alliance. and they tend to favor engaging north korea more. and they have a little bit more attention to social minorities and rights issues. but the current president is conservative, but the national assembly is controlled by the liberal party. in the april elections they overwhelmingly controlled the assembly. for his entire term he has had the assembly in control -- liberals in control of the assembly. part of this frustration is that he has been impossible to get his goals done. host: if a goal of liberalism is a more equal partnership with the uni

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thanks to north korea and his growing alliance with russia. thank you, eunice. for the moment eunice became my correspondence, live save from sol as we heard from eunice in the last few minutes, the soft, free, and parliament, the members of fundamentals managed to make it into national assembly, have voted to block the martial law declaration that was made by the president, a few hours ago, let's speak to young chic phone, about these latest developments in south korea. he's a visiting professor at the own state university, and he is an advisor for the ministry of national unification of south korea's government and his life from so thank you very much for being with us. so in the last few minutes to parliament has voted to block the martial law decoration by the president. what do you think is going to happen next? now? what will the president next will be after this set vote fight upon it? well, uh the president may have resist. yeah, the resolution has that the probably a month with a unanimous precision $198.00 members of the file, the amount of 10 data eve

and, and the opposition, eunice, i mean, the president has accused him of sympathizing with north korea the, the enemy of south korea. of course, what are they saying? and of course they've also been banned from the, the parliamentary, i understand all of a regrouping. are they saying about what, what are they saying about what their next move is likely to be here? right, so i think it's, this is such a shock that the um, the opposition to the decision to declare martial law is also coming from the president's own party. i the, like i said, the leader of the democratic party, easier me on, has called on people to come and gather at the national assembly. even if it's the access is blocked. it is, it's hard to recall any time in recent democratic history that lawmakers were not allowed to enter the national assembly. so these are pretty big moves that we are seeing in these early hours. but yeah, it's, it's a little bit chaotic at the moment. all right, eunice, thank you very much for the moment. will of course keep a close eye on the situation in south korea, and so where you are and, a

puts north korea in a situation where it could be even more dangerous than it has been. i think what we have seen are the two most important enabling forces on the battlefield in ukraine have been first the chinese support for the defense industrial base in russia which has been sustained insignificant over years and now the provision of troops and armaments to russia from north korea. you could make the argument that the most decisive actors currently on the battlefield are indo pacific actors north korea and china and what's taking place on the ground in ukraine and something we had to be concerned by, one of the things i appreciate this forum that has been achieved over the last several years is a much closer dialogue between europe, the united states and the indo pacific. i think that dialogue is significant and it's important. it has security manifestations and economic dimensions are they think we very much want that to continue. there countries that have anxieties about and france in particular but at the same time there is the logic of this continuing integration

north korea today. a lot of people you know what happens of course, in the korean war is it has this sort of yo yo type course where north korea is initially very successful in invading south korea and korean forces occupy south korea for a period of time and that occupation is brutal and violent. but then after the inchon landing american forces occupy north korea with south korean forces. and during that period they basically try to completely overturn the north korean government and set up a new government. and so that period is also massively destructive, violent with you know, massacres occurring, civilian deaths, people looking for revenge because again, the civil the elements of the civil conflict are still ongoing throughout. the korean war period. so there's a lot of sort of sort of violence at the societal level that's occurring all through the korean war. but, you know, when you want to understand north korea today, you have this period in which american are occupying north korea and it china

to the dmz, the demilitarized zone, that legendary buffer that separates north and south koream here lies one of the most secretive and oppressive countries in the world. a totalitarian nation of more than 25 million people. a documentary called beyond utopia chronicles daily life in north korea in the most distressing terms, as it follows the efforts of some individuals to defect. beyond utopia is directed by american film—maker madeleine gavin, and it's compelling and often heartbreaking to watch. what was particularly notable for me is the use of mobile phones to record footage to illustrate the defectors�* escape. it makes you feel that you're an active participant in it. 26 million people live within the walls of that country, and we do not hear from them, we do not even acknowledge them. we do not even know they exist. at a certain point i was like, this movie has to be made. and then i met pastor kim and he and i, after many months of getting to know each other, realised we wanted to make the same kind of film, which really brought people up close and personal. pastor ki

russia and north korea have always had a closer relationship. as you point at, andrea, this is a step change that is significant in return we are concerned about some the capabilities russia is providing for north korea. also energy hard currency puts north korea in a situation where itld can be even more dangerous than it has been. and so what we have seen is the two most important enabling forces on the battlefield in ukraine have been first, the chinese support for the defense industrial base and russia. which has been sustained and significant over years. and now the provision of troops and armaments to russia from north korea. you can make an argument the most decisive actors currently on the battlefield are indo pacific actors north korea and china affecting what is taking place on the ground in ukraine. that is something we have been very concerned by. one of the things i appreciate this form that has been achieved over the last several years is a much closer dialogue between europe, the united states in the andthe end of pacific. that di

, of course when you see the alert that says martial law, you think something is happening with north korea he is ramping up, accelerating and testing on his new group programme, and president yoon has taken a hard line stance towards north korea. it is a reminder that he does take this hard—line stance and he is working in an environment that is really polarised. the opposition leader has a completely different stance com pletely different sta nce when completely different stance when it comes to north korea, much more focused. i think that president yoon is a man with strong convictions, north korea is one of those issues that underpins the division between the two political parties, i think there is something that we probably don't know about what drove president yoon to take this drastic action. at the moment it's being billed as a politicalfight the moment it's being billed as a political fight over the moment it's being billed as a politicalfight over a budget bill, buti a politicalfight over a budget bill, but i think it remains to be seen whether there is some other subjects to his

s view of north korea as opposed to south korea's view of north korea, and i write about that in my chapter. when i was in uniform in my last job in uniform as pacific command commander, north korea was testing nuclear weapons and long-range missiles, and this was during the time of rocket man, firing fury, mid-words like dough -- like dotard and things like that. all of that was going on when i was in uniform, but when i got to korea, we lived through three summits between kim jong-un an president trump, one in singapore, one in hanoi, and one along the dmz. this was around the time of those "beautiful letters" and things like that, so things can change quickly and diplomacy just as they can change -- quickly in diplomacy just as they can change in real life as we saw earlier this week in south korea. >> i was going to ask between the difference between -- ask about the difference between quiet diplomacy and public diplomacy, which some of you have commented on already. it is sometimes -- there are moments when you as a diplomat want to deal with things quietly. that may be the more effect

north korea will use it not only to be a threat to us here, but also to the u.s. mainland and of course, to the region, including the republic of korea -- south korea and japan. on the second question, it is end end. so the alliance and all allies are working very hard to make sure when it comes to sabotage , cyberattacks, energy blackmail , that we take all the measures necessary to counter it. it starts with that i like doing that, and nato as a collective to make sure that we have the necessary agencies in place. this is not about a sort of debate that we will have moving towards the summit. but we will use the hague summit to take stock to make sure that we have the latest ideas on the table of what we can do more. but if some good ideas come up to do even more than we are already doing, you can be assured that we will implement them immediately. but there will be a stock-taking moment in all of this. >> will go to the insider, back row as well. >> hello. putin many times has talked about threats of nuclear weapons. what do you think of these threats, and what

you know, i'm worried about has, we've been north korea as well. that is the official rational. now of course, that's korea is on the thread both from the external forces, meaning north korea and from the internal forces in particular the communist sympathizers. and that's the label that he often uses to discredit the political opposition. and the, the main opposition and democratic party which is in control of the legislature. mm hm. can we just take this back a couple of steps and can you just give us a bit of background, a bit of context with people that might no, no, no, the ins and outs of south korean politics. the just the political in finding that is being that has been going on over the last few months course. so south korea politically is deeply divided like many countries. so in the last presidential election that so the car and prize who used to be able take office. we have seen the electro and basically split in the middle when it came to supporting either him or the can do that all the main office issue on party. and since then, the president has suffered serious ma

certainly, south korea faces an existential threat from north korea, has for 70 years, but there is aeeling in korea and the rest of the world, allies, the u.s. and elsewhere, that democracy makes it stronger. president yoon made that speech at 10:30 at night, and it just didn't make sense to anybody that that was the rationale. it's important to note that when the national assembly gathered the spontaneous session in the middle of the night to nullify it, the leader of president yoon's own party voted to nullify. other important conservative members of his party, the mayor of seoul, announced he was against this. it just didn't hold water with people, even people who do feel that maybe some south koreans need to take the threat from north korea more seriously. it just didn't hold water. christian: are you suggesting the cuts they made to the budget, which were pretty sweeping, could, in some way, undermine national security? kathleen: no, i didn't mean to suggest that. i'm not sure that was the nature of the cuts. certainly it is true that within the national assembly, which is now d

the language that we view is the anti north korea or anti state forces to create inside state forces. and he's talking about really harks back to an earlier day. and the 20th century, when korea was under martial law during the military dictatorship, in the 1960 seventy's and an 80. this one of the language was really what was used by the military dictators. first, pop punk cnn tongue do want to justify their take control of society and implement some very heavy surveillance across the country. but this is really out of step with in 2024 where the country has really looked beyond the pundents a lot. and it's daily political life, it's really a much more global cold country. and so using this language really is the target audience is probably a very small segment of the right or older koreans. but that would, this would resonate with and large what we're hearing from south korea right now, is this, this feels like cover for what was really a political action as so language from a, a pos to ero, almost to natalia says that darcy can you give us a sense though, of the latent tensions tha

of course, those trips of that because of the threat from north korea. how do you think the developments in south korea are going to be seen in pyongyang? and of course they've got the return of donald trump and that was a real scene. so and what happened last time he was president of the un general assembly at the beginning of his time. he said there was a possibility for him to possibly totally destroy north korea. and then he went through those series of to summit. so no visit actually briefly into north korea. and then diplomacy that completely pointed out by the end of his to how confused you think they'll be in joe young about the developments of the moment. oh, i'm not sure i would use care to rise. um north korea's position visa, visa peninsula and its neighboring countries as being confused. i think they're watching. uh they certainly can go and has come out and condemn the president news martial law. but i think you have to sort of step back and look at history again. and, you know, i think his time has also it a different moment. right. then we

he's been much more aggressive or a sort of on north korea, on the issue of north korea's missiles, north korea as human rights. things of that sort of. she has facilitated the ability of the trilateral defense cooperation with japan, which is something his predecessors were unwilling or unable to do. and in that sense, overall, the united states has perceived him as a, as a fairly positive actor. if we do so use impeachment, for example, his replacement is likely going to come from the, the more liberal opposition and some of those try lateral dynamics with japan may be put at risk once again. thank you so much, roger. that's rhonda bank from the stratford center for applied to your politics at rain. a seal ahead on 0 to 0. and now the knights of demonstrations in georgia protest is around happy with the decisions to suspend tools to join the european union and live into place. the patio there remains a cold and i'm settled for cost of through the mid week. for europe, you can see some cloud moving across central areas that's going to bring us some width and even wintery weather, to part

i was going to ask, north korea is sending significant amounts of troops to russia. i was wondering whether this in any way, shape or form influences korean decision making concerning north korea right now? thanks. >> yeah, that is very serious issue i'm dealing with right now today. first of all, we are still analyzing that information. we don't have any confirmed intelligence information on how many, on whether the north korean troops are in the battlefield or how many of them are in the frontier. but i think it's quite likely that it might already happen. but if that is the case, i think this is some -- something we have to deal with in a very serious matter. not just between korea and the united states but also together with allies and partners from nato members. we need to have, first of all, some coordinated response so we have to i think hold some consultation after we have some confirmed information. but, as i said, this is clearly showing that the security of the indo pacific and the security of the atlantic area is closely connected. that's why i think nato

korea. i did it because i want it to be a bridge between north and south korea so that they could understand and respect each other. and so that there would not be a 2nd korean war. i thought a secret communication channel could improve relations between the 2 countries. south korea is a country without sovereignty, acting under the direction and advice of the united states in all its diplomacy. and therefore, it cannot hope for the practical benefits necessary between nations. we thought that if a secret communication channel was established, we could pursue all the interests that both north and south korea had without for an interference. a months old tim there, off the us, wants to maintain tension on the korean peninsula to keep it strong position. and also to use south korea as a proxy in any future conflict with china. i also think nato is engaging with south korea because it wants to get the troops needed and ukraine and the weapons they need. i believe that the special military operation in which russia acts on behalf of the whole world is necessary to restore peace and justice to th

is facing north korea. they their main target is their main reason of being for being is the north korean threat. and if they don't see a north korean threat in the actions of the president, then it stands to reason that they may not follow his orders. and of course, the national assembly is countermanding at least the martial law order. so we'll see how that goes. >> yeah, and it's also worth noting he's very low approval ratings. the president there in the 20s. so you have to wonder how that would factor in as well. all right. thank you so much cedric. mike we appreciate it. we'll be right back who should be the cnn hero of the year? >> visit cnn heroes.com. >> you'll love this. centrum silver is clinically proven to support memory in older adults. >> so you can keep saying you mastered it. >> you fixed it. >> you nailed it you did it with centrum silver, clinically proven to support memory in older adults. >> harry and david is small batch, gourmet and delicious, so of course they run out fast. whether yo

, part of north korea. they're 2 separate countries. unification is not something that's important. um, there are potentials for things to happen in and around the border. mm hm. um, particularly as the south korean air force has gone on, higher alert is run more sorties that may make the north koreans more aware. so we may see some potential cautious there. that said, obviously the south koreans are going to be trying to keep their military focused on internal problems at this moment and maybe not directly try to instigate the north koreans. and what do you think is a thinking right now in the us and the bottom administration, but also in the, the incoming trump administration? will they see this as a dress, a political dispute with a north korea or something more serious that they should be involved in? i think the payment ministration is going to be very worried about the rule of law and democracy in this movement. the incoming trump administration maybe not as much, but as we look at many of the people

north korea.h korea are increasingly becoming involved and with its partnership with russia? what do you expect, in that respect? well, so far, i'm sure the authorities are watching things very carefully but, so far, they have not detected any unusual movement in north korea. the military services are on full alert and ready, as south korea always is in its combined defence posture with the united states. north korea is a constant threat element that the country always watches very closely and is prepared to deal with any contingencies, but you're also right — that it is increasingly emboldened by the new—found security pact with russia. as the president's announcement came to a shock to those around the world, the country has a history of martial law and military rule. certainly this is unprecedented in south korea contemporary it has been about a0 years since martial law has been declared and that was during a decades long military dictatorship. that ruled the country. south korea has made conso

vis-a-vis north koreat justifies the action. as we all know president yoon is known for taking action decisively, acting without much consideration to domestic political responses because of his confidence that what he is doing justifies. somehow the end will justify the means. then i think the measure of south korean leaders ever since the coup d'etat, moving from conservative to progressive, the constant theme is wanting to protect the economy. i think this would be a driver for him. scarlet: i'm glad you bring up the economy. present human was elected with a pro-business agenda, at this year we have booted the incumbent out of office, out of general dissatisfaction. did he deliver any of his campaign promises before his party's electoral defeat in april? was he able to get any of that done? sydney: the challenges he faces the democratically-elected leaders in many countries that are suffering economic downturn, social, cultural transformation internally, and increasing political chaos enabled by social

let us speak to sydney seiler, former national intelligence officer for north korea at the national intelligenceite house. thank you so much forjoining us tonight on bbc news. it has been an extraordinary past few days in south korea what we have witnessed. do you think that we will now see the impeachment of the president and that is pretty certain? well, as you know, the votes are very close in right now as it stands around 300 members of parliament and the needs to be two thirds majority and i would involve eight members from president yoon�*s party and jumping across the aisle and joining with the opposition. some tried to march to his office, but they were blocked by police. it's unclear whether mr yoon hears their calls to resign. but until he does, these demonstrations, however peaceful, will only grow. laura bicker, bbc news, seoul. let us speak to sydney seiler, former national intelligence officer for north korea at the national intelligence council at the white house. thank you so much forjoining us tonight on bbc news. it has been an extraordinary past few days in south korea what we

i'm not aware at this point of any significant impact. >> reporter: the threat of north korea looms. do you think the north koreans are thinking? >> i'm inclined to believe that this is going to play out so well from north korea's perspective. they have a lot of incentive not to throw fuel on the fire. >> reporter: south koreans are relieved after the about face, but they face an uncertain future while the u.s. needs a stable military partner. charlie d'agata, cbs news at the pentagon. >>> and back here at home, while parts of the northeast are digging out from that huge lake-effect snowstorm, round two is on the way. >> oh, man. oh, man. holy hell. >> wow, wild scene in eerie, pennsylvania. tractor-trailer got stuck in the snow at a railroad crossing right as a freight train came through slamming into it. luckily the driver had gotten out. >>> now a fast-moving clipper system will bring intense snow and gusty winds, first over the great lakes region today and heading into new england this evening. potential whiteouts could cause difficult travel. behind it another blast of arctic air

and support for north korea. what we also have to understand, the subtext and the context of the situation right now, jose, is that unification is off. there have long been the objective of people within the south korean government and within the north korean government that perhaps the korean peninsula can unify. over the past year we've seen north korea move more closely to russia. kim jong-un forging a friendship with vladimir putin. and north korea effectively calling off any sort of negotiations with the south to the point where they've been blowing up roads that lead from north korea to the border. this is a volatile situation and on the part of the president a risky political move given the context of relations with north korea. >> north korea sending troops allegedly into the russian side. north korea's long established relationship in so many ways with china. janis mackey frayer, thank you very much. we'll stay closely to what is going on in seoul. some reports of opposition leaders having to jump over t

and realistically probably caught north korea completely by surprise. it's not just an alliance that goes back decades. as you pointed out, there are nearly 30,000 u.s. troops in south korea this is a relationship that goes through military, political diplomatic and much more, especially as the u.s. tries to focus on that region. south korea is a critical part of those plans to underscore how close president joe biden has been with south korea, he hosted a democracy summit there earlier this year, and this all adds to the difficulty of this particular moment. now, there haven't been any major changes in terms of the u.s. military, no additional rules or curfews, no force posture changes. the state department however, did cancel consular visits and warned u.s. citizens not to go near any demonstrations. and that gives you an idea of the sense of the concern over this moment as you pointed out, the u.s. is also very closely watching what's happening in north korea, because this is the type of moment that kim jong un tends to take advantage of, especially b

again, those are some of the reasons and he also called out uh, you know, a pro north korea and forces within south korea that they would have to pay the prize. but the national assembly was able to move fairly quickly. they were able to push through the police force is blocking the national assembly to have a quorum of 190 law makers of the 300 lawmakers that that have seeds in order to pass unanimously. a motion calling on the president to cancel his his declaration for martial law. so now we are seeing the police and the military's personnel kind of being caught in the middle. we did hear reports of military personnel and police pulling back as, as did helicopters that had descended on the national assembly complex. we are hearing national. we are hearing from local media reporting that the defense ministry of a person connected with the defense ministry. told the reporter that the marshal law does hold until the president lifted on board was the pool in the political circles. both of the opposition democratic party and the president's own party. people. power parties are both in a

national security agenda seems to count of devising cooperation between russia and china, iran and north korea. the hello the welcome to our, the international reaching you from the russian capital where the latest from around the world. i have mike called quite yet. now after more than 6 decades of ruling syria, the boss, spotty, has both. it's. busy actions in the nation and hand it over, it's optional to the interim government's ministry of internal affairs. that's out of the tower group. it's to yes to serial and it's had just few days ago. toppling the boss around the sides and taking control over the mosque was now the same group has now taken the city of dallas or in the east of the country. this footage was posted, bothered you had this forces themselves, showcasing a safety on the full military control with locals, home and checkpoints along the way. the area is unimportant, the transportation have with significant oil fields in the surrounding region. now let's take a closer look at who controls what in syria extremist militants hold. most of the territory, including the capital of t