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want to bring in cbs's robert costa on this. know you spoke with the president-elect donald trump today. so, he's getting what he wants. he wants this two-year increase in the debt limit. how did he thought about that? >> robert: norah, great to be with you. for president-elect trump, this is about more than a bill or a spending deal. it's about laying the foundation for his presidency next year. in our conversation, he said he does not want to be dealing with the debt limit in 2025. he wants to have a focus on border security, immigration legislation, and tax legislation, and so by pushing the debt limit two years down the line, he's hoping to get some concentration for his agenda. >> norah: so that's a lot what this is about. but do you think this is a sign of some of the chaos that may come in? i mean, republicans have this slim majority in the house. >> robert: this moment, norah reflects how much president-elect trump is at the center of all negotiations across washington. yes, elon musk is involved, with vivek ramaswamy and

the position of many of his top aides as well, even though there is that reporting. >> robert costa iniggest story that's underreported, the battle for working voters across the country. i spent time with the head of the uaw. who's going to win over that person who's aligned with labor, the industrial worker in this country? is it going to be the democrat you can party or the republican party? it remains a key story and deserves more attention. >> kaicaitlin huey-burns? >> i mentioned how we covered women voter, but i also think there is an aspect to which we underestimated or perhaps the public underestimated how trump's personality wasn't as much of a burden to him, and in some ways, it turned out to be a benefit with low-propensity voters and talking to the trump campaign throughout this cycle and reporting on it, they were making this bet that if he leaned into his personality, and made no qualms about it, made no apologies about it, that would kind of speak to this authenticity factor, this premium, that low-propensity voters, those not inclined to participate in elections might b

joining us now is robert costa, our chief election and campaign correspondent. carter, as you know, robert, was from the rural south. he grew up under segregationist laws. it was a way of life. yet he spoke up in defense of civil rights that really helped to change the course of the south. what was it about jimmy carter? why do you think he did that? >> reporter: jericka, good to be with you. to step into plains, georgia, is to step into who jimmy carter was. someone who rose from a rural boyhood in the deep south to become someone who ran for governor in georgia and said that the time for racial discrimination is over. that, when he made the inaugural address he had in january of 1971, he cast the south in a new light. said he would break through the part, and that set the tone for what happened in 1976 when he ran for the white house as an outsider. >> let's talk about his ascent to the oval office. you know, how was he able to do it? i was reading up and looking at even how he was one of the first -- the only democrat to take texas but how he had that plain-sp

been ringing around in my head all weekend from the very first pages of a book bob woodward and robert costa wrote about trump. it comes from back in march 2016 when trump was still a candidate for president that time around. here it is. real power is, and i don't even want to use the word, fear. a few weeks ago bob woodward was sitting here with me and he talked about that quote. >> my first book on trump was, of course, called fear. because that is exactly what he does. he knows that is what the real power is to scare people. to frighten people. that is exactly what we see playing out today. having written three books on trump and spent hours with him, the goal is to give him all the say, all the power. real power is fear. >> real power is fear. that is how donald trump has seen the world. that is such an important part of understanding them, we find ourselves in. it may be the most important part of understanding the moment we find ourselves in. we spend our time on the show talking about what trump might do with the power of the presidency. we talk about the ways the threats might turn i

. >> this is robert costa in washington, which is bracing for the return of president-elect donald trumpisn't easy, as carl hulse knows. we met the esteemed new york times correspondent at eastern market on capitol hill, where the butchers have an easier time than the legislators down the street. >> how hard is it to make the sausage in washington these some days? >> it's tough. the country is polarized, so congress is polarized. how do you get anything done? people are dug in. >> that was made clear this month when congress averted a shutdown. >> could it be governing by crisis in 2025? >> yeah, it's just totally the way it's going to be. >> at the top of trump's agenda, tax cuts and immigration. >> we will begin the largest deportation operation in american history. >> but trump will be tested early, with likely contentious confirmation hearings for some nominees. >> how do you expect democrats to handle trump's return to power? >> i think they're still trying to figure that out. i think the house is kind of what to watch because, by our cyclical politics, the house is the institution