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i would be surprised if elon musk is the man— would be surprised if elon musk is the man who _ would if elon musk is the man who manages to - would be surprised if elon musk is the man who manages to fracture | would be surprised if elon musk is- the man who manages to fracture the anglo-american— the man who manages to fracture the anglo—american alliance, _ the man who manages to fracture the anglo—american alliance, and - the man who manages to fracture the anglo—american alliance, and the - a:r1glo—american alliance, and the! § my 22:2z:55..e.e.:.::.e.......:.;.. ainglo—american alliance, and the § my flavour 2:77? ainglo—american alliance, and the § my flavour politics but he not my flavour politics but he was elected _ not my flavour politics but he was elected president of the us, and i think— elected president of the us, and i think that — elected president of the us, and i think that even in donald trump's circles— think that even in donald trump's circles there must be an ounce of nervousness about this guy who thinks _ nervousness about this guy who thinks that he can buy
i would be surprised if elon musk is the man— would be surprised if elon musk is the man who _ would if elon musk is the man who manages to - would be surprised if elon musk is the man who manages to fracture | would be surprised if elon musk is- the man who manages to fracture the anglo-american— the man who manages to fracture the anglo—american alliance, _ the man who manages to fracture the anglo—american alliance, and - the man who manages to fracture the anglo—american alliance,...
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elon musk is clearly— it is untenable. elon musk is clearly overstepping.straining him. it is absolutely the right move for european leaders to speak out against — european leaders to speak out against this, but it needs to be against this, but it needs to he a — against this, but it needs to be a much more of a sort of whole — be a much more of a sort of whole of— be a much more of a sort of whole of society and society's leaders. _ whole of society and society's leaders, condemning the unhelpful, and also very harmfui— unhelpful, and also very harmful intervention that elon musk— harmful intervention that elon musk is— harmful intervention that elon musk is making. ultimately, the cheque — musk is making. ultimately, the cheque on— musk is making. ultimately, the cheque on elon musk presumably needs— cheque on elon musk presumably needs to — cheque on elon musk presumably needs to be donald trump. there is no _ needs to be donald trump. there is no evidence that trump intends _ is no evidence that trump intends to restrain elon musk's use of— intends to r
elon musk is clearly— it is untenable. elon musk is clearly overstepping.straining him. it is absolutely the right move for european leaders to speak out against — european leaders to speak out against this, but it needs to be against this, but it needs to he a — against this, but it needs to be a much more of a sort of whole — be a much more of a sort of whole of— be a much more of a sort of whole of society and society's leaders. _ whole of society and society's leaders, condemning...
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particularly from elon musk. , , , ., elon musk. its interesting you said him not _ elon musk.im not referring to elon musk and he said i'm not individualising this to elon musk. but the problem is these attacks are coming thick and fast from elon musk. it is difficult for the government to ignore this, now that elon musk is about to be in a powerful position in the us?- position in the us? yes, arguably _ position in the us? yes, arguably he _ position in the us? yes, arguably he is _ position in the us? yes, arguably he is already i position in the us? yes, arguably he is already inj position in the us? yes, i arguably he is already in a powerful position as the world's richest man and the owner of x. his influence will increase. it is difficult for the government to ignore it. not least when elon musk�*s comments dominate the headlines and he makes these attacks on the british government. he said i won't tolerate politicians jumping on the bandwagon. the focus was on politicians here, on particularly on the conservative party. who he accused ofjumping on the bandwagon. he sa
particularly from elon musk. , , , ., elon musk. its interesting you said him not _ elon musk.im not referring to elon musk and he said i'm not individualising this to elon musk. but the problem is these attacks are coming thick and fast from elon musk. it is difficult for the government to ignore this, now that elon musk is about to be in a powerful position in the us?- position in the us? yes, arguably _ position in the us? yes, arguably he _ position in the us? yes, arguably he is _ position...
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even that elon musk is tom's right-hand| elon musk is tom's right—hand quy' elon musk is tom's right—handtom's right—hand guy, ithink, on elon musk is tom's right—hand guy, i think, on this front especially with social networking and with a long's ownership of acts i think it will be very favourable to the world of social media. that said i do worry about the potential for regulatory things that could happen that could favour x and disadvantage the more open platforms hopefully we will not see that happen. i will say that one of the things that has been great is many people have been on an ex— have been searching for more open opportunities and open platforms, specifically because they do not want to be trapped in a specific platform, they do not agree with the moderation policies. l115 not agree with the moderation olicies. ,, , ., ., , policies. us safety regulators have opened _ policies. us safety regulators have opened a _ policies. us safety regulators have opened a new _ policies. us safety regulators have opened a new probe - policies. us safety regulators| have opened a new probe
even that elon musk is tom's right-hand| elon musk is tom's right—hand quy' elon musk is tom's right—handtom's right—hand guy, ithink, on elon musk is tom's right—hand guy, i think, on this front especially with social networking and with a long's ownership of acts i think it will be very favourable to the world of social media. that said i do worry about the potential for regulatory things that could happen that could favour x and disadvantage the more open platforms hopefully we will...
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i don't think— they respond to elon musk. i don't think the _ they respond to elon musk.enoch and the conservatives is, how can you -et the conservatives is, how can you get to— the conservatives is, how can you get to a _ the conservatives is, how can you get to a point by the next election when _ get to a point by the next election when it— get to a point by the next election when it feels like it is kemi badenoch against keir starmer? at the moment it feels like kemi badenoch versus nigel farage and it is not _ badenoch versus nigel farage and it is not helping her. we badenoch versus nigel farage and it is not helping her.— is not helping her. we will talk today about — is not helping her. we will talk today about the _ is not helping her. we will talk today about the nhs _ is not helping her. we will talk today about the nhs a - is not helping her. we will talk today about the nhs a lot - is not helping her. we will talk today about the nhs a lot and | is not helping her. we will talk. today about the nhs a lot and the government is punishing two publishing plans ——
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— trying to in some ways follow in elon musk's footsteps or take — in elon musk's footsteps or take a. i would caution, in terms of elon— i would caution, in terms of elon musk's relationship with donald — elon musk's relationship with donald trump, it is not necessarily going to be... may not be — necessarily going to be... may not be rosy forever. there has been — not be rosy forever. there has been chatter in trump circles around — been chatter in trump circles around mar—a—lago about whether elon around mar—a—lago about whether eion musk— around mar—a—lago about whether elon musk is in some ways overstaying his welcome. we know — overstaying his welcome. we know donald trump likes to be the centre of attention, likes to be — the centre of attention, likes to be the _ the centre of attention, likes to be the one calling all the shots — to be the one calling all the shots and does not like it when someone — shots and does not like it when someone could eclipse him and elon— someone could eclipse him and elon musk with how vocal he is online, — elon musk with how vocal he is online,
— trying to in some ways follow in elon musk's footsteps or take — in elon musk's footsteps or take a. i would caution, in terms of elon— i would caution, in terms of elon musk's relationship with donald — elon musk's relationship with donald trump, it is not necessarily going to be... may not be — necessarily going to be... may not be rosy forever. there has been — not be rosy forever. there has been chatter in trump circles around — been chatter in trump circles around...
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elon musk�*s interventions are helping whip it up anew, and now others have waded in.noch and the conservatives said there should be a new national public inquiry. nigel farage says he supports that too. elon musk will in a few days become part of the american administration, so he has an important international role. some of his language has been completely unacceptable, the fact that some politicians in this country are now under greater protection as a consequence is also unacceptable. but in many ways, that is a distraction. the spotlight should be on the failure of this government to have a nationwide inquiry into these grooming gangs. there was an independent inquiry set up a decade ago which spent seven years investigating abuse in england and wales. two and a half years ago, it produced 20 recommendations. its chair is now working with a new group, whose mission she says is not to call for new inquiries, but to advocate for the full implementation of the original recommendations. and her group says the original inquiry, which heard from over 7500 victims and su
elon musk�*s interventions are helping whip it up anew, and now others have waded in.noch and the conservatives said there should be a new national public inquiry. nigel farage says he supports that too. elon musk will in a few days become part of the american administration, so he has an important international role. some of his language has been completely unacceptable, the fact that some politicians in this country are now under greater protection as a consequence is also unacceptable. but...
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she defended elon musk�*s commentary calling it courageous. defended elon musk's commentary calling itial media networks _ calling it courageous. social media networks have - media networks have traditionally operated as silos managed by large technology firms but a new technology may soon enable users to communicate across social media platforms independent from one another. meta's thread and a social network aggregator recently joined, social network aggregator recentlyjoined, but will it gain mainstream appeal? we are joined by the chief executive of clipboard, who served on the board of x. thanks forjoining us to talk about this. help us understand how big part of (unknown term) helps clipboard? it gives everybody access to a lot more people who may be were not using it before. people that were currently on threads or who were on capped blue guy, giving everybody a place where they can all connect regardless of the applications they are using. of the applications they are usina. �* , , ,., using. as we seen in reporting the promise — using. as we seen in reporting the promise of— u
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but have you out anyone in your team said to elon muskl in your team said to elon musk that his calls be released from prison, a convicted offender, somebody on the far right who you yourself are worked very hard to distance yourself from, have you told and he is wrong about that? i have you told and he is wrong about that?— about that? i think you're missing _ about that? i think you're missing the _ about that? i think you're missing the point. - about that? i think you're missing the point. the i about that? i think you're - missing the point. the point. the point is the fact that he supports me politically and supports me politically and supports does not mean that i have to agree with every single statement he makes on x. i think you're getting bogged down in this, i will in the operation have a conversation with him in a variety of things and this will no doubt be one of them. no doubt the media getting to hang up on this. frankly, what he says about other people, what his views on electric vehicles are whatever it may be is irrelevant. i can't really talk about the mask— i can'
but have you out anyone in your team said to elon muskl in your team said to elon musk that his calls be released from prison, a convicted offender, somebody on the far right who you yourself are worked very hard to distance yourself from, have you told and he is wrong about that? i have you told and he is wrong about that?— about that? i think you're missing _ about that? i think you're missing the _ about that? i think you're missing the point. - about that? i think you're missing the...
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talent is a little bit - about md and elon musk. we note that alice weidel about afd and elon musk.e note that alice weidel had a chat on acts recently. what took part in that discussion? there is a lot of concern and there is more about how elon musk is trying to push the afd. it was shown live on elon musk�*s acts. he got a lot of audience to the afd, and this is why members from other parties are fearing that this is foreign interference in behalf of elon musk and other non—german countries men. all of these are highly prominent people sharing and welcoming all the support by elon musk. thank you for talking to us about he got a lot of musk�*s acts. he got a lot of audience to the afd, and this is why members from other parties are fearing that this is foreign interference in behalf of elon musk and other non—german countries men. all of these are highly prominent people sharing and welcoming all the support by elon musk. thank you for talking to us about the complexities of the german election, thank you. more now on the claim by ukraine's president that two wounded north korean
talent is a little bit - about md and elon musk. we note that alice weidel about afd and elon musk.e note that alice weidel had a chat on acts recently. what took part in that discussion? there is a lot of concern and there is more about how elon musk is trying to push the afd. it was shown live on elon musk�*s acts. he got a lot of audience to the afd, and this is why members from other parties are fearing that this is foreign interference in behalf of elon musk and other non—german...
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part of the reason is actually one elon musk was at openai, one elon musk was at openai, one of the original a for profit, to make it easier to raise money, for example. in terms of that ground, ithink example. in terms of that ground, i think that is more about elon musk trying to basically undermine a direct competitor. he has since started his own ai company, so i think targeting its restructuring is a useful way of bogging them down legally. in terms of that second argument about monopoly i think actually elon musk is absolutely right, even though i am not necessarily sure about how genuine his intentions are. microsoft has invested about $13 billion in openai, has the right to the majority of its profits and has privileged access to its technology and that has enabled microsoft to take an early lead in the ai market and become increasingly dominant and also to prevent openai from competing directly and so i think from a fair competition perspective, that is concerning so elon musk has a point. it is concerning so elon musk has a oint. ., ., , ., a point. it would not be a business _ a p
part of the reason is actually one elon musk was at openai, one elon musk was at openai, one of the original a for profit, to make it easier to raise money, for example. in terms of that ground, ithink example. in terms of that ground, i think that is more about elon musk trying to basically undermine a direct competitor. he has since started his own ai company, so i think targeting its restructuring is a useful way of bogging them down legally. in terms of that second argument about monopoly i...
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i think the bi elon musk is concerned? i think the his prize — elon musk is concerned? i think the big prize for all _ elon musk is concerned? i think the big prize for all these - the big prize for all these people is global domination. i believe that the technology leaders in the united states all believe that their companies are sovereign, that they are equivalent to or more important than the countries in which they operate. for that reason, elon musk is particularly dangerous, because his vision is global. it is very much a surveillance based, essentially government subsidised, authoritarian vision. what i will be interested to see, and i say this with great fear, is how long elon musk can court trump before one of the other of them gets tired. he may be the proof point that being incredibly rich doesn't mean that you are either wise or even particularly smart. he is a tremendous risk taker and he's been incredibly fortunate, the risk see has taken have worked out, but many of the things he has done don't make any sense, and his daily behaviour, if you watch it, is
i think the bi elon musk is concerned? i think the his prize — elon musk is concerned? i think the big prize for all _ elon musk is concerned? i think the big prize for all these - the big prize for all these people is global domination. i believe that the technology leaders in the united states all believe that their companies are sovereign, that they are equivalent to or more important than the countries in which they operate. for that reason, elon musk is particularly dangerous, because...
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pause which elon musk signed. _ urged a six—month pause which elon musk signed.ed. none of them paused~ — elon musk signed. none of them paused~ what _ elon musk signed. none of them paused. what has _ elon musk signed. none of them paused. what has changed - elon musk signed. none of them paused. what has changed in. elon musk signed. none of them paused. what has changed in isi paused. what has changed in 18 months? — paused. what has changed in 18 months? have _ paused. what has changed in 18 months? have a _ paused. what has changed in 18 months? have a soft— paused. what has changed in 18 months? have a soft ai - paused. what has changed in 18 months? have a soft ai ethics? | months? have a soft ai ethics? to a _ months? have a soft ai ethics? to a not— months? have a soft ai ethics? to a not need _ months? have a soft ai ethics? to a not need to _ months? have a soft ai ethics? to a not need to do _ months? have a soft ai ethics? to a not need to do ai - months? have a soft ai ethics? to a not need to do ai safety. to a not need to do ai safety any— to a no
pause which elon musk signed. _ urged a six—month pause which elon musk signed.ed. none of them paused~ — elon musk signed. none of them paused~ what _ elon musk signed. none of them paused. what has _ elon musk signed. none of them paused. what has changed - elon musk signed. none of them paused. what has changed in. elon musk signed. none of them paused. what has changed in isi paused. what has changed in 18 months? — paused. what has changed in 18 months? have _ paused. what has...
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mind you, we don't know whether elon _ states. mind you, we don't know whether elon musk— states.hether elon musk is _ states. mind you, we don't know whether elon musk is interested | whether elon musk is interested in buying tiktok and they are other interested parties as well, most notably, mr b's, very popular youtube and tiktok star, he posted on x last week that he was interested in buying tiktok, somewhat as a joke but as laurie has now confirmed that is actually being serious about it. meanwhile, other social media platforms like instagram and x, there have been scrambling to rule out a new feature, trying to law those content creators while tiktok faces an uncertain future. . ~ while tiktok faces an uncertain future. ., ~' , ., while tiktok faces an uncertain future. ., ,, , ., ., future. thank you for getting us across _ future. thank you for getting us across that _ future. thank you for getting us across that story. - future. thank you for getting i us across that story. president trump is also considering attempts of tariffs on goods imported from china, from the begi
mind you, we don't know whether elon _ states. mind you, we don't know whether elon musk— states.hether elon musk is _ states. mind you, we don't know whether elon musk is interested | whether elon musk is interested in buying tiktok and they are other interested parties as well, most notably, mr b's, very popular youtube and tiktok star, he posted on x last week that he was interested in buying tiktok, somewhat as a joke but as laurie has now confirmed that is actually being serious about...
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but, you know, i would listen to elon. mean, he's obviously got some information and some opinions about this. and i don't know how much of this is going to be aired in front of and behind the scenes, but. >> elon musk keeps on overshadowing donald trump. i mean, you had. >> in the inauguration. >> then it. >> was the hand gesture. quote, unquote. >> that is. >> the subject of. >> great mystery. >> and debate. yeah. >> the subject of great mystery and debate. >> you're talking about you're not one of these salute truthers, are you? >> no. >> what? i'm. oh, is that. >> what we're calling it now? all i'm saying is. no, but what i'm saying is it engendered a great a great debate. it took away from a night that was supposed to be about the president, and instead, what everyone talks about is elon musk. i mean, it does come to a certain point where he is putting himself and talking about things that i'm sure president trump doesn't want him taking the spotlight away from him. >> but on this, what elon musk is saying, and there
but, you know, i would listen to elon. mean, he's obviously got some information and some opinions about this. and i don't know how much of this is going to be aired in front of and behind the scenes, but. >> elon musk keeps on overshadowing donald trump. i mean, you had. >> in the inauguration. >> then it. >> was the hand gesture. quote, unquote. >> that is. >> the subject of. >> great mystery. >> and debate. yeah. >> the subject of great...
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but if he's constantly having to fend off, well, how close is elon musk to tommy robinson?tical problem for reform and for nigel farage. yeah, christian, that's a really interesting point. and, you know, even among maga, the maga world here, we are seeing some some cracks there in elon musk�*s influence. and, you know, laura loomer, a far—right figure here who has obviously in the past been very controversial, she criticised elon musk when he and vivek ramaswamy, remember, the two of them are heading up the new department of government efficiency, talked about the need for h—ib visas here in the us. so bringing in kind of the top—talent engineers and that clashes with some of the america first anti—immigration rhetoric that we're seeing from the maga world. so, you know, his position is going to be fascinating to watch. but it brings me, i think, to the point that i've been looking at this week, which is the new congress coming in the 119th congress. of course, you know, it's going to be very interesting to watch. and i've been thinking about what a challenge it will be abo
but if he's constantly having to fend off, well, how close is elon musk to tommy robinson?tical problem for reform and for nigel farage. yeah, christian, that's a really interesting point. and, you know, even among maga, the maga world here, we are seeing some some cracks there in elon musk�*s influence. and, you know, laura loomer, a far—right figure here who has obviously in the past been very controversial, she criticised elon musk when he and vivek ramaswamy, remember, the two of them...
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elon musk has been _ feelthe need to respond? elon musk has been very _ feel the need to respond?k has been very critical, quite explicitly critical both of keir starmer directly over his time when he was director of public prosecutions in england and wales and so what elon musk said was his failure to bring prosecutions against grooming gangs. critical of keir starmer on the one hand, critical of the safeguarding minister jess critical of the safeguarding ministerjess phillips for her refusal to hold a national inquiry into those grooming gangs and as you have mentioned now, and some very stark and ecstasy language, used by elon musk, the tech billionaire, owner of x and most crucially perhaps, part of donald trump's incoming us administration in just a couple of weeks' time. so that is the context, we have had those very critical remarks over the last few days in particular. keir starmer issuing there, you had a bit of it, what was a very full throated defence, not only of his time as director of public prosecutions but also of his own government's record and his safeguarding mi
elon musk has been _ feelthe need to respond? elon musk has been very _ feel the need to respond?k has been very critical, quite explicitly critical both of keir starmer directly over his time when he was director of public prosecutions in england and wales and so what elon musk said was his failure to bring prosecutions against grooming gangs. critical of keir starmer on the one hand, critical of the safeguarding minister jess critical of the safeguarding ministerjess phillips for her refusal...
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within hours of that, elon musk orsay within hours of that, elon musk or say that nigel farage shoulded talking about a man called rupert lowe, the mp for great yarmouth, also elected in the july great yarmouth, also elected in thejuly general election, started talking about whether he should be the leader instead. it is deeply destabilising, embarrassing for nigel farage. the reason for it is very important. there is a substantive disagreement there, which is that elon musk believes that tommy robinson, who is currently in prison in this country for contempt of court, should play a role this country for contempt of court, sh
within hours of that, elon musk orsay within hours of that, elon musk or say that nigel farage shoulded talking about a man called rupert lowe, the mp for great yarmouth, also elected in the july great yarmouth, also elected in thejuly general election, started talking about whether he should be the leader instead. it is deeply destabilising, embarrassing for nigel farage. the reason for it is very important. there is a substantive disagreement there, which is that elon musk believes that tommy...
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i think the frontrunner is elon - frontrunner? i think the i frontrunner is elon musk, frontrunner?usk, given trump and elon musk, given his ironclad relationship with trump. musk could be front and centre but oracle is clearly in the running on microsoft will probably be a long shot. we believe there is a 95% chance, a game of high—stakes poker going on. isn't there a conflict of interest for musk given he owns x? given his relationship with china and president trump? there is a lot of conflicts, a lot of area to navigate but we are in uncharted waters as we talked about and i think the reality is that they get a deal done, there needs to be someone thatis done, there needs to be someone that is hand—picked from beijing but also trump lighthouse and that is why i think elon musk, it was a bit for the ages betting on trump and now would clearly benefit. south korea's economy barely grew in the last three months of last year, following a political crisis. present your was impeached and suspended from duties for trying to impose martial law. —— president yoon. before we go, a quick ch
i think the frontrunner is elon - frontrunner? i think the i frontrunner is elon musk, frontrunner?usk, given trump and elon musk, given his ironclad relationship with trump. musk could be front and centre but oracle is clearly in the running on microsoft will probably be a long shot. we believe there is a 95% chance, a game of high—stakes poker going on. isn't there a conflict of interest for musk given he owns x? given his relationship with china and president trump? there is a lot of...
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, elon musk has criticism. was this this consortium doesn't have the money. the 500 million they can 500 billion. and they can raise that money pretty easily. but it's fascinating to see this this, you know, criticism of something that president trump is touting as a major accomplishment. you know, from yesterday, caitlin, we'll see you at 9:00 more. we want to talk more on the second guessing right this right now by elon musk. i want to get perspective from tech journalist, author and pivot podcast co-host kara swisher. so, kara. i don't know if anybody should be surprised by this, but what do you make of elon musk appearing to undermine this major announcement from the president? >> well, he. >> wants to undermine sam altman. >> that's that's. >> his goal. he's obviously in a lawsuit with him. he had a lawsuit. then he stopped that lawsuit, and then he had a lawsuit again, because of his involvement with openai. so this is a long running feud between these two tech entrepreneurs, specifically around a.i. >> t
, elon musk has criticism. was this this consortium doesn't have the money. the 500 million they can 500 billion. and they can raise that money pretty easily. but it's fascinating to see this this, you know, criticism of something that president trump is touting as a major accomplishment. you know, from yesterday, caitlin, we'll see you at 9:00 more. we want to talk more on the second guessing right this right now by elon musk. i want to get perspective from tech journalist, author and pivot...
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but elon musk is going a lot further. help to make his money, you can call trump welfare or subsidies and some watchdogs call it a government graph but i'm showing of the dog for a serious reason, musk is rushing to use his influence in this incoming trump administration to get the government to promote the dog cryptocurrency. as a factual historical matter that's very unusual. now, there are plenty of outside groups which have advised presidents or the government including on spending, i will give you just a couple of examples, there is a debt reduction commission there's advisors on science this is deliberately dry or boring, you will you will notice these advisory boards which are for the public good are named based on what they do, they are not branded exxon or coca-cola, you don't see an exxon commission there, that gets the word exxon running around, even if you had a former exxon official involved. but elon musk is new spending advisory group has been named, doge, to promote the dog cryptocurrency that he wants to
but elon musk is going a lot further. help to make his money, you can call trump welfare or subsidies and some watchdogs call it a government graph but i'm showing of the dog for a serious reason, musk is rushing to use his influence in this incoming trump administration to get the government to promote the dog cryptocurrency. as a factual historical matter that's very unusual. now, there are plenty of outside groups which have advised presidents or the government including on spending, i will...
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take over, elon! elon— take over, elon! elon musk- take over, elon! elon musk has .e over, elon! _ elon musk has provoked the first big political row of the year, and he has onlyjust getting started. in a fortnight, donald trump will once again be america's president, and mr musk will be working for him. chris mason, bbc news, at westminster. more from chris in a moment, but as well as the national inquiry into child sexual abuse, which included an investigation into grooming gangs, there have been other local inquiries, including in rotherham in south yorkshire, where at least 1,400 children were sexually exploited between 1997 and 2013, predominantly by men of pakistani heritage. in telford in shropshire, there were more than 1,000 girls abused by gangs of men over decades, and the evidence was ignored. and last year, 0ldham council called for a public inquiry into grooming, but was told to commission a local review instead, as in rotherham and telford. ed thomas has more from 0ldham. for decades, grooming gangs and the failures of those meant to protect children h
take over, elon! elon— take over, elon! elon musk- take over, elon! elon musk has .e over, elon! _ elon musk has provoked the first big political row of the year, and he has onlyjust getting started. in a fortnight, donald trump will once again be america's president, and mr musk will be working for him. chris mason, bbc news, at westminster. more from chris in a moment, but as well as the national inquiry into child sexual abuse, which included an investigation into grooming gangs, there...
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take over, elon! just getting started. in a fortnight, donald trump will once again be america's president, and mr musk will be working for him. chris mason, bbc news, at westminster. let's speak to ryan mac, a reporterfrom the new york times and co—author of "character limit: how elon musk destroyed twitter". thank you very much forjoining us. if elon musk has destroyed twitter, how influential, powerful does that platform remain? it powerful does that platform remain? , ., , remain? it still remains powerful- _ remain? it still remains powerful. it's _ remain? it still remains powerful. it's known . remain? it still remains powerful. it's known as| remain? it still remains i powerful. it's known as x remain? it still remains - powerful. it's known as x these days, and it was subtitled, in reference to the loss of value. destruction of shareholder wealth from the loss of advertising revenue. but as a social platform, there is still a relevant links —— irrelevance to act. we see no that we can with hi
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and you can't move for news about elon musk, donald trump.'t move for news about these appalling fires. and on the political sofa this morning, a new government agenda to seize back some of the agency. yes. so artificial intelligence, which broadly speaking, is computers getting cleverer and cleverer and cleverer is what the government wants to be talking about for the next few days. keir starmer himself will be popping up tomorrow talking about it. so this morning the tech secretary, peter kyle, was in our studio and indeed in others, at our chums across the industry, talking about what he believes is a very, very significant opportunity for the economy and also opportunities for us because he reckons the government can be much more efficient. he reckons that all of our lives can be improved by massive advances in al, as it's known. but i should be worried about al, i'm told. well, both, right? and this is an is an interesting thing, isn't it? this is the point. what we were trying to explore tomorrow is how the government gets a balance rig
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good that you divested elon musk? -- could that be divested elon musk?here has this narrative come from that officials, not bytedance but chinese officials might think elon musk could be a good owner of this key social media company question mark sarah -- company? sarah: they have and evaluating options for tiktok should the ban go through which it looks like based on the supreme court arguments. it is likely that we will see the law be enacted. elon musk's appeal -- musk appeals to the chinese government. he has a long-standing relationship with that country. the thing i want to give pause on, the whole point of this entire exercise of trying to disentangle tiktok from its ownership was to reduce the links to china. with the u.s. government go with a solution that involved somebody that is expected to be friendly with china? maybe it won't matter because of elon musk's ties to donald trump, which the chinese government sees as a positive. he has been at trump's side. he gave more than $250 million in support of his campaign. we are trying to get -- they
good that you divested elon musk? -- could that be divested elon musk?here has this narrative come from that officials, not bytedance but chinese officials might think elon musk could be a good owner of this key social media company question mark sarah -- company? sarah: they have and evaluating options for tiktok should the ban go through which it looks like based on the supreme court arguments. it is likely that we will see the law be enacted. elon musk's appeal -- musk appeals to the chinese...
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i think we'll get elon there, as soon as i can turn elon to a populist, we'll make progress. >> if you can't turn him, do you want him out? >> the bottom line, he's not totally out. there's reporting that he's going to have some access to the eob, maybe an office over there, particularly with doge so he's not going object out. when you write $250 million worth of checks, when you've got -- when you're that involved, when you have actually backed a ground game, you're going to have a seat at the table. i argued it can't be the head of the table and shouldn't be in the cabinet room in the west wing. i'm a realist and i've had this fight before. people, i think some folks remember back in '17, elon and i went back and forth virtually every day about the ev tax credits, which i've told him at the time, people making $32,000 a year are not going to underwrite you in these venture capitalists on a company that could be worth billions and billions of dollars, maybe hundreds of billions of dollars. that was tesla and i won that round. so i've gone with elon before, we're going to go at it agai
i think we'll get elon there, as soon as i can turn elon to a populist, we'll make progress. >> if you can't turn him, do you want him out? >> the bottom line, he's not totally out. there's reporting that he's going to have some access to the eob, maybe an office over there, particularly with doge so he's not going object out. when you write $250 million worth of checks, when you've got -- when you're that involved, when you have actually backed a ground game, you're going to have a...
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so, you know, elon is going to do what elon wants to do because that's what he's always done.hat's maybe not work so well in a trump environment where trump gets to call the shots. >> can you just talk about the idea that, you know, that they're proposing with sam altman and the softbank and oracle? >> well, softbank has had a history of this saying they're going to promise this much money and this much money. and he's a he's a great entrepreneur. let me just say he's had some disasters. but he's had some huge successes. um masayoshi son. and so like a lot of people like elon musk, by the way, has had some disasters and some huge successes. and so this is an idea to bring more a.i. into this country so that we don't rely on china as we do when we make phones or things like that. let me add, the biden administration had a chance, from what i understand, from several of these companies involved, to be part of this. and there was all kinds of back and forth. but trump, of course, walks in having done no work and takes credit for everything like he's going to do with the economy a
so, you know, elon is going to do what elon wants to do because that's what he's always done.hat's maybe not work so well in a trump environment where trump gets to call the shots. >> can you just talk about the idea that, you know, that they're proposing with sam altman and the softbank and oracle? >> well, softbank has had a history of this saying they're going to promise this much money and this much money. and he's a he's a great entrepreneur. let me just say he's had some...
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who to look to, you know, should those links be made then to elon musk and president trump?, you know, reminds me of in the first term, you know, there was obviously a sense of having to curry favour a bit with then—president trump and now with president—elect trump. there are a few members of the team — i mean, we can't forget his family as well, donjr who's played an important part in some of the cabinet picks — and i a sense, i guess perhaps and a sense, i guess perhaps internationally of understanding that, you know, they can build these ties with president elect trump. but also if someone like elon musk is going to have a big influence on the administration and his policies, that that's going to present a new challenge. you know, eight years ago, we started a programme here called 100 days, and the premise of the programme was that we would look at trumpism in america, but also how it reflected back on the rest of the world. and that feels to me very much where we are right now. obviously, on this side, there is enormous trepidation because of what has been threatened t
who to look to, you know, should those links be made then to elon musk and president trump?, you know, reminds me of in the first term, you know, there was obviously a sense of having to curry favour a bit with then—president trump and now with president—elect trump. there are a few members of the team — i mean, we can't forget his family as well, donjr who's played an important part in some of the cabinet picks — and i a sense, i guess perhaps and a sense, i guess perhaps...
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take over, elon!cal row of the year, and he has only just getting started. in a fortnight, donald trump will once again be america's president, and mr musk will be working for him. chris mason, bbc news, at westminster. let's bring in sarah champion, labour mp for rotherham and chair of the international development select committee. of course she played such a prominent role in investigation into the grooming gangs in her own constituency. thank you so much for being with us. there was an independent inquiry as chris says into child sexual abuse stopped and went on for seven years. there were tens of thousands of victims and survivors of child sexual abuse who were part of that inquiry, it cost nearly £200 million. it is —— its key recommendations was mandatory reporting meaning that failing to report abuse could in and of itself become a new criminal offence. what happened to those recommendations that the last conservative government were given? conservative government were civen? ., ., , ., given?
take over, elon!cal row of the year, and he has only just getting started. in a fortnight, donald trump will once again be america's president, and mr musk will be working for him. chris mason, bbc news, at westminster. let's bring in sarah champion, labour mp for rotherham and chair of the international development select committee. of course she played such a prominent role in investigation into the grooming gangs in her own constituency. thank you so much for being with us. there was an...
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and you can't move for news about elon musk, donald trump.'t move for news about these appalling fires. and on the political sofa this morning, a new government agenda to seize back some of the agency. yes. so artificial intelligence, which broadly speaking, is computers getting cleverer and cleverer and cleverer is what the government wants to be talking about for the next few days. keir starmer himself will be popping up tomorrow talking about it. so this morning the tech secretary, peter kyle, was in our studio and indeed in others, at our chums across the industry, talking about what he believes is a very, very significant opportunity for the economy and also opportunities for us because he reckons the government can be much more efficient. he reckons that all of our lives can be improved by massive advances in al, as it's known. but i should be worried about al, i'm told. well, both, right? and this is an is an interesting thing, isn't it? this is the point. what we were trying to explore tomorrow is how the government gets a balance rig
and you can't move for news about elon musk, donald trump.'t move for news about these appalling fires. and on the political sofa this morning, a new government agenda to seize back some of the agency. yes. so artificial intelligence, which broadly speaking, is computers getting cleverer and cleverer and cleverer is what the government wants to be talking about for the next few days. keir starmer himself will be popping up tomorrow talking about it. so this morning the tech secretary, peter...
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they were not coming from elon musk. they were coming from elon musk.part and parcel of politics today and being an mp today and the fact we now have social media and widespread use of social media, it has made being a politician very different is a choice of career for many women. like the leader of the conservatives who you are not a massive fan of it seems, you also want to see a full national inquiry, another one. when did you first realise you wanted that? g , ., did you first realise you wanted that? g , a, did you first realise you wanted that? , a, , , did you first realise you wanted that? , a, ,, a, a, a, that? just on the issue of i am not a massive — that? just on the issue of i am not a massive fan. _ that? just on the issue of i am not a massive fan, i— that? just on the issue of i am not a massive fan, i did _ that? just on the issue of i am not a massive fan, i did back- that? just on the issue of i am not a massive fan, i did back robert . a massive fan, i did back robert jenrick for the leadership and i do support kemi badenoch as lead
they were not coming from elon musk. they were coming from elon musk.part and parcel of politics today and being an mp today and the fact we now have social media and widespread use of social media, it has made being a politician very different is a choice of career for many women. like the leader of the conservatives who you are not a massive fan of it seems, you also want to see a full national inquiry, another one. when did you first realise you wanted that? g , ., did you first realise you...
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elon musk having a go not 'ust at in. elon musk having a go not just at the — in.g a go not just at the labour— in. elon musk having a go not i just at the labour government, but also at the reform uk, saint nigel farage is not fit to be the leader. == saint nigel farage is not fit to be the leader. -- saying... niel to be the leader. -- saying... nigel farage _ to be the leader. -- saying... nigel farage had _ to be the leader. -- saying... nigel farage had been - to be the leader. -- saying... j nigel farage had been hoping that maybe mr musk would send some money to reform uk's way, to disrupt a party in uk politics, being against the status quo, being anti immigration. again, they seem to have had an falling out over nigel farage not being willing to stand up all support tommy robinson who, as you mention at the start, is a far right activist, takes a very anti—radical islam's year and is currently in prison. it shows you the sort of dilemmas that politicians in countries where elon musk takes an interest, the dangers of mixing your politics and relationship of
elon musk having a go not 'ust at in. elon musk having a go not just at the — in.g a go not just at the labour— in. elon musk having a go not i just at the labour government, but also at the reform uk, saint nigel farage is not fit to be the leader. == saint nigel farage is not fit to be the leader. -- saying... niel to be the leader. -- saying... nigel farage _ to be the leader. -- saying... nigel farage had _ to be the leader. -- saying... nigel farage had been - to be the leader. --...
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he takes orders from donald trump and elon musk. he has fully gone in on this doge committee, whatever that is going to be, that essentially wants to rollback rights and hard-earned benefits and programs like social security and medicare. we know elon musk essentially controls the republican party. they are talking about eliminating things like the department of education. so i think mike johnson has bought in to this and it is huge for elon musk and his billionaire friends. this fight will be against the billionaires, elon musk and donald trump trying to do everything in his power to enrich his friends. >> i get a lot of questions from my friends on social media and the number one question i've gotten over the last couple of days is, do democrats have a plan and what will democrats do? it seems like you are looking to work with them but i'm looking to see where they say it will make sense to work with y'all. >> at the end of the day republican say they want to have more security, but what does that mean? it means mass deportation,
he takes orders from donald trump and elon musk. he has fully gone in on this doge committee, whatever that is going to be, that essentially wants to rollback rights and hard-earned benefits and programs like social security and medicare. we know elon musk essentially controls the republican party. they are talking about eliminating things like the department of education. so i think mike johnson has bought in to this and it is huge for elon musk and his billionaire friends. this fight will be...
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she defended the commentary of elon musk saying it was courageous.a networks have traditionally operated as silos managed by large technology firms but a new technology may soon enable users to communicate across social media platforms independent from one another. meta's threads and a social network aggregator recentlyjoined, but will it gain mainstream appeal? we arejoined by the chief executive of flipboard, who serves on the board it gives everybody access to a lot more people who may be were not using it before. people that were currently on threads or who were on blue sky, giving everybody a place where they can all connect regardless of the applications they are using. as we seen in reporting the promise of social media and how content moderation is the barriers of that are coming down as we were reporting, one promise is to reduce censorship which opens the doors for all sorts of potentially harmful content. how does flipboard walk that line between maintaining a free space to exchange views and the propagation of perhaps false news or danger
she defended the commentary of elon musk saying it was courageous.a networks have traditionally operated as silos managed by large technology firms but a new technology may soon enable users to communicate across social media platforms independent from one another. meta's threads and a social network aggregator recentlyjoined, but will it gain mainstream appeal? we arejoined by the chief executive of flipboard, who serves on the board it gives everybody access to a lot more people who may be...
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we have the latest in the new royal involving elon musk.hat's coming up next. ♪ now enjoy the vip treatment — a 3% ira match on retirement contributions. (auctioneer) 11 million sir. (man) once they discover their privileges are no longer exclusive... their fragile reality will plunge into disarray. ♪ [speaking in french] elizabeth: 47 president macron, criticizing elon musk, elon musk has been calling out europe's far left, and tyrannical leaders, don luskin is here, what do you make of this new fight? >> well, all i can say is you want you are over the target when they start shooting the flack at you, for the president of france, to say that elon musk interfering directly in elections, because he is speccing his opinion, is just ridiculous. it is a forrible dis distortion of the french language, it is not interference to speak, it is exercises your right to free speech, leaders of europe who are attacking musk are by doing so proving his point, his point they are tyrannical leaders who are taking away people's free speech, and trying to t
we have the latest in the new royal involving elon musk.hat's coming up next. ♪ now enjoy the vip treatment — a 3% ira match on retirement contributions. (auctioneer) 11 million sir. (man) once they discover their privileges are no longer exclusive... their fragile reality will plunge into disarray. ♪ [speaking in french] elizabeth: 47 president macron, criticizing elon musk, elon musk has been calling out europe's far left, and tyrannical leaders, don luskin is here, what do you make of...
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>> on the one hand, elon musk can be a good interlock for europeans and americans p..e knows europe and germany. it is strange he is promoting the afd when a lot of the platform or ideology for the platform go against his business interests as well. certainly deregulation is important for elon musk and it is interesting to see the afd framed as the party that wants less state and more individual high riots because people are against migration and germany is facing demographic decline. it does need more investment and innovation and it needs to be pro u.s. and pro security given the geopolitical challenges the country is facing. there is a little bit of a disconnect, but at the same time, we will see if elon musk proves to be a beneficial bridge for europe and the united states. >> i guess we'll find out. in the meantime, i would also like your thoughts on what is likely to happen under a new german government. the polls you highlighted suggest the cdu returning to the lead. questions where germany is going do go in terms of fiscal policy going forward. given the cdu ro
>> on the one hand, elon musk can be a good interlock for europeans and americans p..e knows europe and germany. it is strange he is promoting the afd when a lot of the platform or ideology for the platform go against his business interests as well. certainly deregulation is important for elon musk and it is interesting to see the afd framed as the party that wants less state and more individual high riots because people are against migration and germany is facing demographic decline. it...
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elon is not gonna go away.s got the two tactical nuclear weapons. >> do you think he has too much æ >> he will use those tactical weapons. >> do you think he has too much influence right now? he's been posted about mar-a-lago, he's been in trump's ear nonstop since the election. >> as a teacher in harvard business school, there is power and influence. what is shocking to me as he doesn't have much power.>> why do you say that?>> because he doesn't have the ability to actually make decisions and inform those decisions and drive those decisions. if you look at even the time it mar-a-lago he's come in and definitely had influence and let's go back over that, he was adamant many of the picks he wanted didn't come to pass. he sat had some influence over policy none of it truly stuck. the tech community essentially importing denture observance to take jobs over american citizens he's had some influence so far but the policies have in stock it's going to be a constant fight and a constant clash of ideas. i would go a
elon is not gonna go away.s got the two tactical nuclear weapons. >> do you think he has too much æ >> he will use those tactical weapons. >> do you think he has too much influence right now? he's been posted about mar-a-lago, he's been in trump's ear nonstop since the election. >> as a teacher in harvard business school, there is power and influence. what is shocking to me as he doesn't have much power.>> why do you say that?>> because he doesn't have the...
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democracy in the uk and whether elon musk is undermining it. thank you.gainst uk prime minister sir keir starmer, having to do with his record prosecuting child sex abuse cases. sir keir has pushed back and most recently has said that the online discourse has now crossed a line. on stage here at ces, yaccarino defended musk�*s commentary, calling it courageous. all this comes after meta — which owns facebook and instagram — announced it will end third—party fact checking on its social media platforms in the us. founder and ceo mark zuckerberg said there was �*too much censorship�* and that the move would promote freedom of expression. meta has this week reshuffled its board with the departure of former liberal democrat leader nick clegg as its head of corporate affairs. it has appointed trump ally and ultimate fighting championship dana white. so has mr trump's win sparked a cultural shift in silicon valley? mr zuckerberg suggests so. the recent elections also feel like a cultural tipping point towards once again prioritising speech. so we're going to get
democracy in the uk and whether elon musk is undermining it. thank you.gainst uk prime minister sir keir starmer, having to do with his record prosecuting child sex abuse cases. sir keir has pushed back and most recently has said that the online discourse has now crossed a line. on stage here at ces, yaccarino defended musk�*s commentary, calling it courageous. all this comes after meta — which owns facebook and instagram — announced it will end third—party fact checking on its social...
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elon musk posted this response on his account. have been killed in a fire at a ski resort in turkiye. at least two people died after trying to jump to safety. over 200 people were staying there. and we knew some of the news tonight's been heavy so we though we would leave you with ten seconds of something a bit lighter. it was announced that these baby pandas will make their public debut in hong kong in february, day after they turn to six months old. and a public naming event is being called to decide what to call them. that's us. have a good one. hello and welcome to sportsday with me gavin ramjaun. a thriller in the champions league as barcelona comeback to defeat benfica in the final moments. alex hartley says she has been given "the cold shoulder" by england players at the women's ashes because of comments the former spinner made about the team's fitness. and we're in rome for the launch of this years six nations with ireland starting their bid to defend their back to back titles. hello there, and welcome along to the program
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elon musk is notjust downing street. elon musk is not just world's which downing street.notjust world's which is man, not just the owner of social media platform x. in two weeks, he will play a key part in donald trump's incoming us administration. the tight rope that keir starmer is having to always needing to respond to the criticism. without wanting to upset donald trump. the us government very careful to maintain relationships with them. i suppose that is the path that keir starmer is trying to walk and i suppose it struck me that this was a very carefully planned and worded intervention to what seemed like an off—the—cuff question. harry, thank you very much. harry, thank you very much. harry farley there. justin trudeau has announced he'll step down as the prime minister of canada and as the leader of his party. he's been in office for nine years. he also announced the temporary suspension of parliament. mr trudeau has been under pressure to resign for months, with more than 20 fellow members of his liberal party publicly urging him to go. a little earlier, this is
elon musk is notjust downing street. elon musk is not just world's which downing street.notjust world's which is man, not just the owner of social media platform x. in two weeks, he will play a key part in donald trump's incoming us administration. the tight rope that keir starmer is having to always needing to respond to the criticism. without wanting to upset donald trump. the us government very careful to maintain relationships with them. i suppose that is the path that keir starmer is...
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countries -- companies are investing in the sand of elon musk will be sitting there and elon musk had a difficult relationship with mark zuckerberg. he had it with google over the years, and a lot of it has to do with the fact that they have to guard a certain flank. they want to be the new ella guards. if they can get in trump's pocket, then they are securing a sense of security as it relates to the relationship between elon musk and trump. it makes some sense. >> it makes business sense. >> they have investors and that sort of thing. it's not that easy to come out and say it's a feckless move. there are some aspects of that, but these have a lot of stakeholders -- >> it makes perfect business sense. the people who need to pay attention are the american people who are saying, wait a minute, aren't lawmakers supposed to be there for me and not there as the ponds of corporations? i'm not saying it's a bad move for companies. >> we saw this in 2016 and 2020. if you are proctor & gamble and place your ads next to hate speech, i don't think that will happen. these ceos can bend the knee b
countries -- companies are investing in the sand of elon musk will be sitting there and elon musk had a difficult relationship with mark zuckerberg. he had it with google over the years, and a lot of it has to do with the fact that they have to guard a certain flank. they want to be the new ella guards. if they can get in trump's pocket, then they are securing a sense of security as it relates to the relationship between elon musk and trump. it makes some sense. >> it makes business...
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you had sam altman there, and a few other tech heavyweights, but not elon musk, and then later, elonse guys don't have the money. >> musk can develop intense rivalries, and the two chapters in the book of this sort of intensity against sam altman because they started openai together. this whole idea of artificial intelligence, they were going to create this idea of nonprofit, and sam altman decided to make it a closed system and for-profit, and musk just never forgave him. you're seeing this battle happen just this week. >> martha: so it wasn't against trump in any way. it was just all about altman. and, in fact, trump said -- >> elon, one of the people he happens to hate, but i have certain hatreds of people too. >> martha: like they're bonding over hatred. >> you know, they are in some ways. they both have resentments, and that's exactly what trump said. obviously you can see throughout the history the resentment, and i've seen them together. they'll talk, but there's a resentment. donald trump is the same. he has deep resentments against people, but sometimes he's sitting there jo
you had sam altman there, and a few other tech heavyweights, but not elon musk, and then later, elonse guys don't have the money. >> musk can develop intense rivalries, and the two chapters in the book of this sort of intensity against sam altman because they started openai together. this whole idea of artificial intelligence, they were going to create this idea of nonprofit, and sam altman decided to make it a closed system and for-profit, and musk just never forgave him. you're seeing...