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congress. congress needs to be consulted. there is a balance of powers in this country whereby congress decides, congress, who was elected by then people, congress decides how our funding should be spent. usaid and foreign assistance is less than a penny on the dollar here in the united states. carl: less than 1% of the total u.s. budget. you were mentioning it has been a tumultuous week for employees of usaid they have been locked out of their office, work -- losing access to their work computer. even pictures on the walls in the office have been taken down. have you heard anything from former employees or colleagues? guest: of course i have. it is absolute chaos and fear inside that agency right now. everybody is concerned about surveillance. they have signalless communications outside the agency. they have been formally prohibited from communicating, usaid employees, with organizations paid to implement our programs. all those agencies and organizations are facing stop work orders. there are tens of thousands of layoffs forthcoming. employees have no idea what is next. they have decapitated the agency. they have placed almos

congress been taking. do you think congress - been forceful— taking. do you think congressen forceful enough to up to the president and its duty as an equal its c government? l its c government? i branch of government? i think we have to _ branch of government? i think we have to do _ branch of government? i think we have to do more, - i we have te de meree frenirelge ———— at we have te de meree frenhlge l— ~~— —~ at usaid today we have te de meree frenhlge elee wee eee at usaid today and we have te de meree frenhlge elee we eee at usaid today and talk to was at usaid today and talk to and family members of employees and family members of employees and family members of employees that work there, and they've told us we are already seeing real implication of people and children young people and children not fed, a risk of dying. 0ur -7 77 national se7cur7ity interests, national security already being interests already being so jeopardisetho congress has an obligation absolutely has an obligation legally through the legally'through'thelegislative to talk about process to talk

congress. how do you see the relationship between this new administration and congress playing out? >> that is a fantastic question. i would not say congresss superfluous. to take the devils advocate perspective here, i think in the last trump administration, we saw congress empowered in a lot of ways. they did not do it in big, bold ways. he took a big major executive push. we did deny him a lot of things. making some changes he would like in legislation. the president really worked on congressional republican terms in his first time around. so i don't know that they are superfluous. they will come under a greater challenge and a greater threat for sure. one thing that the president in the first term -- he really stretched the power of executive authority. he will test that again for sure, and maybe in ways that are even more bold and more dangerous than the first time around. and it will be up to congress to either abide by those shifts or to let them go. and it is going to be hard, especially in these high salience standoffs. for example, declaring executive emergencies, for example, on the southern border. do you take funds from variou

that congress unlike the last congress conceded so much of the responsibility to the white house to do their job this is why we have a check and balance system in place by the courts in the congress to make sure you balance that with the president does because the president cannot shut down a federal agency that is funded by congress that's congress' role in a think congress. >> it has been shut down in those programs have been stop even the sign has been taken on. >> that is true the u.s. aid is so unique in its own way and we understand that but there is a lot of waste fraud and abuse in usaid and other government agencies. the conversation that we should have and we should criticize the president constructively, that's what a democracy is but if you look at the whistleblowers when they talk about waste and checks that are being written because they have been written this way for so long you cannot even question whether they're going to terrorist organization or people that are living $5 billion might not seemed like a lot when you get thehe budgetf the united states government but it's a start i'll take my own example you live. somebody in the media and covered the action agen

congress' powers go. congress can create the agencies. congress can give them missions. it can give them employees, and it can give them money. but they can't force the president to do unconstitutional things. for example, this might be going to department of education, congress can't say give money for racial diversity programs if the president thinks, like abraham lincoln did, that's unconstitutional. i don't think the congress can force the president to manage agencies ineffectively and inefficiently. what if president trump says i can build a bridge for $500 and congress says, no, waste 20 and spend a billion. i think the president has the ability with all the a examples you gave to run the executive branch in an efficient, effective way and return the money9 ott pax -- to the taxpayers. this is a fight between a congress that wants to waste money and a president that's trying to save money. rich: you know, the constitution gives congress the power of the pursestrings. do you think a court would then say, you know, hey, this is something that the the prerogative of th

congress. congress needs to step up and say i support you, even republicans in congress, i support you president, but this is not how it is supposed to work. congress needs to step up and make its place known as a constitutional separation of powers instrument. it was not supposed to work like this worry over private citizen who has not been appointed to anything official, doge is in and in between place of a government agency and quasi-government agency but there's been no active congress to establish it or fund it. this is where you get two of the president just says it is so that right now in this nationalized political moment we just accept it, or at least his supporters to. that is not the way to supposed to work and members of congress need to recognize that and be vocal about that. host: the book is "we hold these truths: how to spot the myths holding america back." washington journal continues.

congress. congress needs to step up and say i support you, even republicans in congress, i support you president, but this is not how it is supposed to work. congress needs to step up and make its place known as a constitutional separation of powers instrument. it was not supposed to work like this worry over private citizen who has not been appointed to anything official, doge is in and in between place of a government agency and quasi-government agency but there's been no active congress to establish it or fund it. this is where you get two of the president just says it is so that right now in this nationalized political moment we just accept it, or at least his supporters to. that is not the way to supposed to work and members of congress need to recognize that and be vocal about that. host: the book is "we hold these truths: how to spot the myths holding america back." ference on capitol hill.

department was created through an act of congress and it cannot be abolished except through an act of congress. but the executive branch is not coming to congress to work with us. so today, congress is coming to the executive branch. trump and musk have placed doge staffers in the building where they have access to the private data of millions of students and families. they have placed donsens of employees who perform vital services on which our schools, teachers and students depend on leave. we are here to follow up on a letter that 95 of my colleagues sent this week. we asked to meet with the acting secretary. and we have yet to receive a response. we are here to ask her, will you comply with an illegal executive order to shut down the department of education. although the president is determined to shut congress out of the process, he will not, we will not allow it. we will not cede the responsibility of our future generations to one man, his ideology and his unelected lieutenants. i will not stand for it. my colleagues will not stand for it and today we are demanding that the acting secretary meet with us and agree that donald trump and elo

congress can introduce a joint resolution to disapprove of that rule. if it is finalized within the last 60 days, of the senate session days or 60 legislative days of the house, during one session of congress, congress gets a renewed look back se ssion in the new congress. that is where we are at right now. i know that did not sound all that clear but your handout will talk into that and -- we'll talk about that and steve will dive into that. congress can consider a cra resolution at any time. the only time it happens very often is when you have a change of the president to a new party and then also both houses of congress being controlled by that same party. since it is a somewhat rare configuration of alignment, but it is what we saw in 2017 and now what we see today. after introduction, the joint resolution is referred to the appropriate committee of jurisdiction depending on the topic of the regulation. the house then follows its usual course and can pass a cra resolution by majority vote and the senate has some special procedures. how many of you are senate staffers? ok and how many are house staffers? thank you for walking over here. the house staffers, this is less relevant but it is helpful

congress. and so this is why congress had passed this law. and so in 1867, in the summer, johnson intentionally waited until congress was no longer in session, and he removed the secretary of war, edwin stanton, in the summer, who had been appointed by abraham lincoln in 1862. and in stanton's place, johnson appointed grant as the interim secretary of war. and all of this was an effort by johnson to effectively test and challenge a law that johnson believed was unconstitutional. and grant found himself stuck in a really difficult position. on the one hand, if he were to accept this appointment as interim secretary of war by johnson, it would appear that he was going along and going along with johnson's defiance of congress and breaking the law, and that would risk alienating republicans in congress and alienating his growing support for his president's presidential nomination. on the other hand, in what grant later said was that he was actually very concerned with who johnson might choose. instead that if he didn't take this position, johnson might put somebody in place who could do real damage to the war department. so grant ultimately accep

congress. >> congress. what is that? >> seriously? >> this is a serious conversation about whether there is congress and what role it has. >> most of this will have to go through congress. doge doesn't have technically,power other than to say we are going to all the executive orders say we will reviewed a reyou a line. certainly certain agencies will disappear. they will bring the recommendations to congress and when take any of them and more we have not gotten to health and human services, defense. they will be under the microscope and say you need to justify why you need to exist. justify the value to the american dollar and how we keep it safe and secure and congress will have to do most of the heavy lifting and a couple vote margin they have to give a little to get a lot. >> do you think that can happen? >> i don't know if it can or will but that will be the process. even trump said that. we know we have to work with congress to get most thereof done. >> would you offer any advice to the president about the damage done in the short term with a pad dash with executive orders? there is food not delivered to hungry people rotting. >> t

congress. and so this is why congress had passed this law. and so in 1867, in the summer, johnson intentionally waited until congress was no longer in session, and he removed the secretary of war, edwin stanton, in the summer, who had been appointed by abraham lincoln in 1862. and in stanton's place, johnson appointed grant as the interim secretary of war. and all of this was an effort by johnson to effectively test and challenge a law that johnson believed was unconstitutional. and grant found himself stuck in a really difficult position. on the one hand, if he were to accept this appointment as interim secretary of war by johnson, it would appear that he was going along and going along with johnson's defiance of congress and breaking the law, and that would risk alienating republicans in congress and alienating his growing support for his president's presidential nomination. on the other hand, in what grant later said was that he was actually very concerned with who johnson might choose. instead that if he didn't take this position, johnson might put somebody in place who could do real damage to the war department. so grant ultimately accep

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congress congress. i got is not a debt and we should not repay this debt. it's an agreement. was that before, so we don't recognize it as a debt. so that's going to be very difficult for the americans have already said no support unless that is a rad minerals deal. they run the thanks for that to him or, and come reporting that from keith. what is the fight to intensifies on the front lines in the east? you credit anatomy. medics, a coming under extreme pressure even with highly motivated doctors and medical stuff. ready and waiting. the russian bombardments often to liaison prudence is transporting agents. soldiers that often leads to tragic results. the wounded isn't right. con, reporting again from the genetics region in east and ukraine. the message comes in to the medics injured soldiers all being sent to this field, emergency room for treatment. the adult has a prepped the equipment ready, but the engine soldiers never arrive due to russian attacks intense fighting on the front line that i'm balance was delayed. they died before they could get him. a blow to the field, medics who could maybe have sites across the pharmacy. and we simply receive information and wait. we just wait whether it works out or not. it's out of our hands once, unless the people directly involved in the evacuation, keep us updated. we truly want to do our job and to help this person, because every minute it's a chance to rescue a chance that could be decisive. and the longer we wait, the more we realize that this person's chances are slipping away in emergency medical situations. every single 2nd counts. now it's about 15 to 20 minutes to get the wounded from the front line to the emergency room in vehicles like this. however, if there's intense russian attacks taking place, then these vehicles have to stop and that journey can then take hours. the dangers are immense for the medics and delays mean that's the avoidable may become inevitable for why i'm just talking to charles to share this. this happens quite often due to the so called technological war and drone attacks. as for today, we're hoping for the best but preparing for the worst to the team all live and work in close proximity. and this makes shift on the train they have done since they were deployed. hey, in december of 2022. since we'll began, fatality estimates of ukrainian soldiers are hard to come by. in a recent speech, the cleaning president said, 45000 died, of the soul says, put the finger at nearly double, but there's no breakdown of soldiers who have died as a result of lack of medical treatment to the doctors and stuff. and every desk has an impact, but it doesn't take long for the next message to come in with use of more casualties to arrive. and then another challenge to save lives in wrong calling out is 0. then that's legion. russian president vladimir putin has attended a recent lang, sorry i'm going in most go to mock defend of the fall, valente it on those, those serving in the forces as well as minute treat veterans page and also awarded military personnel who faults in the war and ukraine. sir, when he comes to the day before the 3 year mark of the start of russia's invasion, all the 10s of thousands of people have gathered in the liberties capital of pay route for the funeral of the late husband. alida, how sudden those rather the controller was assassinated in the is there any strikes on something buried in september the latest below for more than 30 years and was the groups long disturbing lead under is need to ship has pull. i grew from a lebanese resistance movement into a regional powerhouse, deeply embedded in conflicts from syria to rack. yeah, i'm going to buy rain and palestine. the is really get sleep blow, it will evidenced capital while the funeral was taking place in the army regularly struck a root southern sub during his conflict with his beloved last year was in a honda was at the funeral in favor i was holding the public 0 of its late leader, he was temporarily buried since he was killed enough mazda of his lady's side. in late september, they couldn't hall events because of possibilities because of security concerns. and because that makes sense, we're still in villages along the road, or in southern lebanon on so this is a time for people to grieve. the people here do not consider the, just as a leader facing m as a father. they see him as a protector, a protector of their community, because they believe they have been marginalized out, not to all 11 on is here today as well as the opponents. there are those in the country who feels that has been working for the interest at the expense of the be safe. but for has this crowd at the show of force that you liked is rejecting an image of strength. because the good weekend militarily, during the year, they killed the 5 years and they continue to target one is really army as well as i said to have when i really is on the, even on this for here in the country that's run. i really was the leader in the elected into office. we are still 0. we can, we should not be ignored. but that's the same time as well. you're with new secretary general name, asked him the message that it is now in a new phase. yes, it talks about resistance, but not the armed resistance. it's talking about other arms of method. so in many ways has the law realizes the reality 7 on refuses to be ignored without correspondence anyhow. sham says a funeral, a pass and that's real. it is an important moment for his bottle. it was of course this was a show of force by the same time, at least from my own observations. it also reflected that the logistic construct of hezbollah is back in action. the way to organize this ceremony and the way to organize this funeral, the number of people the fall out of to mobilize people from different areas. and they've been on from south to the call to be rude friends and around the country was actually a, gave a, a kind of an impression that this spastic is back in action the way it was. so this is on one side, the other side. there is, of course, a political message. all of this has a lot is trying to say that despite all the impacts of the is really war despite what's happened in syria, as well as main arsenal, isn't the weapons it's, it's people, it's the population. it's, it's support base and this is what they try to show and this is what 9 cos i'm also into to and he was talking to the people. so i think this is the main issue that says well, low wanted to raise in a kid way in front of everyone, not only as low cuz message foretold size. the region of the message that if, as well as more spot of any sets and then of course, any arrangement 11 on it could be part of the disruption. well, yes, president donald trump has been speaking to an influential gathering of conservatives in maryland. i celebrate his 1st month in the white house. he talked about dogs there about the war and ukraine, and his plans for domestic policy of correspondent petticoat lane has more now from ox, on hill, as surrounded by his most loyal supporters at this conservative convention. you as president donald trump, took a victory lap. now is my honor to address you for the 1st time. as your 47th president of the united on foreign policy, he once again promised to gain the release of all of the captives helping garza. and he appeared to once again threaten ukraine. europe should put up more money than us, but even if you said the same thing, how come we went so far upfront? and he didn't know that europe gets his money back. they did it in the form of a loan. we don't get our money back, we get nothing. so we're getting our money back. we're going to get our money back is it's not, it's not fair. it's just not fair. and we will say, but i think we're pretty close to a deal and we'd better be close to a deal. he's talking about his demand that you can give the us up to $500000000000.00 worth of rights to its natural resources. the initial bill did not offer ukraine security assistance and exchange. trump also falsely claimed that under us president joe biden, ukraine received $350000000000.00 worth of aid. in fact, the congress approve it about a 175000000000. and when it comes to military assistance that was less than $70000000000.00, which mostly want to fund us weapon suppliers. and the domestic front term celebrate is move to for your federal workers and exaggerated the amount of money saved by eliminate most of us a i. d e claim, the country supports the moves. several members of congress have found the opposite of and had local town halls. if you don't have a voice in bunker, the, the trump highlighted a political commentator who said he's accomplished more in his 1st 30 days than every other president, including the 1st president george washington. even so just a month into office, leaving the stage with the promise. despite as only just begun patio heading out to 0 oxen hill mirror. so the heads on this odds are in use 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congress. and even though congress, the republicans in congress are shamefully just sitting there while their prerogativess not going to stand for it. that's the basis for hope. >> i'm with you on the idea that there's no point in getting caught up in the nomenclature, because we can actually see what's happening, and we can know that it is illegal. however, no less a person than the vice president of the united states, jd vance, a lawyer no less, has said he posted this. he said if a judge tried to tell a general how to conduct a military operation, that would be illegal. if a judge tried to command the attorney general into how to use her discretion as a prosecutor, that's also illegal. judges aren't allowed to control the executive's legitimate, legitimate power. end quote. professor. that's just misdirection, because that's not what the courts in any of these cases that have imposed temporary restraining orders or anything like that have have said they are not. no one is trying to control the executive. they're trying to say what you're doing is not within your own powers. >> well, the word legitimate

the same poll also asked, do you want the next congress, the congress that's going to be elected next year in the midterms? do you want that congress to be controlled by the democrats to act as a check on trump, or do you want it to be controlled by the republicans to support trump's agenda by a 13 point margin? the country says democrats, please. we would prefer the democrats to be in charge in the next congress. in the washington post polling, do you support trump banning transgender people from the military? no. by 11 points. do you support trump laying off large numbers of federal workers? no. by 19 points. do you support trump shutting down usaid? no. by 21 points. do you support trump pardoning people convicted of violent crimes related to the attack on the capitol on january 6th, 2021? do you support trump's pardon of people convicted of violent crimes on j6? what do you think the number is going to be on that one? the answer, obviously, is no. the american people do not support that. but the proportion of americans who say that is 83%. that was his first major act upon taking office as president, 83% of the public disagrees

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congress. and of course, congress right now is controlled by the president's party republicans. so how much is congress able to affect any kind of protest or members of congress? if there is a very heavy hand on the part of the executive office to try and extend jurisdiction over some of these areas. >> well, i think congress absolutely has a role to play. and i think the way you ask that question is really important because we're going to continue to see this, even though republicans do control, obviously, the white house, the senate and the house. what we see is president trump doing a lot on his own by executive order, at least in these first few weeks. and this brings up, as you laid out in your question, really important questions about how much you can do by executive action. now, we know that all executive actions have to be pursuant to some power that the constitution gives the president, or a piece of legislation gives the president. in this case, when it comes to usaid, as we talked about, this was something where actually it was first created by executive order. president kennedy created usa

congress up in arms. geoff: how do you view congress abdicating their role? >> this process of ceding power to the executive is decades in the making. congresstigative body. you see the results when you have from come in in his second term wanting to leave a profoundly change government in his wake when he departed to the oval office, and you see because of acts of congress, congress's own denial of its role the president has enormous power to wield. when president obama said he had a pen and a phone. joe biden tried to cancel student debt through executive order. one reason why washington is stunned as you have an outsider in elon musk punching the delete button on some of these programs. geoff: that is what i've heard from republicans that democrats cannot in good faith criticize donald trump when joe biden tried to unilaterally without congress waive $400 billion, and went the supreme court shrugged and said you cannot do that he tried a piecemeal approach. >> this is like trying to compare apples and cannonballs. what we are seeing coming from the trump administration is executive orders uprooting and upending the federal government, and

congress. our money doesn't just come to us and decide what to do with it. no, not at all. every dollar that comes to usaid is directed by congress. congress sets the priorities. they tell us how much to spend on which of those priorities, and we implement that directive from congress. we also make reams of data available to congress and to the u.s. public, because everyone deserves to know how their taxpayer dollars are spent. so up until last week, we could show geographically and by program, by area or topic what every dollar of u.s. assistance was spent on. all of this has been well known for such a long time that it's really very surprising to most of our staff to find out that despite the fact that a republican led congress directed this money to be spent in the way it was being spent up until last week, that this is now being seen as not in line with our priorities. >> to to that point, my follow up was if you could fact check what we just heard from congressman buddy carter of georgia, who repeated this claim. actually, it's the first time i had heard it, but but it's a similar refrain to what we've heard about contraceptives being

congress and republicans. >> in congress have to be willing to say, enough's enough. >> this this is it. >> and i get the narrative, but. this is it. >> it's illegal. what musk and trump are. >> doing right. >> now is. >> illegal and unconstitutional. >> that's what they're doing. and that. >> needs to be hit home every single day. >> we are in a constitutional emergency. >> a crisis. call it what you want. we have two. independent branches. >> of government right now. my former branch. >> wait, which two. >> are you counting? >> i'm praying. >> that the courts remain independent. congress >> gone. >> and i think. >> the american people. >> need to really understand this. the legislative branch of the united states. >> government right now is no longer. >> independent in a. >> healthy america and a. healthy democracy. elon musk would have had his hauled in front of. >> congress two weeks ago. >> and just ask questions. >> under oath. what are you doing? >> right? what are. >> you. >> have the authority. >> to do? >> none of that's gone on because republicans have pledged fealty to trump and not the constitution. >> they had an opportunity to. >> subpoena him, and they chose. >> not to. >> well, i. would even argue, joe. >> that elon. >> musk's position. probably wouldn't even have seen the light of day, because if congress was doing. its constitutional job right, it would have recognized. upfront what this was and said, wait a minute, time out. no, we're not going there. there would have been the appropriate back channeling to the white house to say, you put him up. thi

congress. congress is the one that created this problem. congress needs to be part of the solution to it. n musk trying to fix everything that took decades to build through congress making very bad ideas with about how much money and what type of jobs are done by these different agencies. stuart: what stuck out to me last night was the relationship between donald trump and elon musk. they appeared to be relatively friendly, certainly respectful of each other, and they seemed to be joining together in this great enterprise -- >> well -- stuart: -- chop up the federal bureaucracy. >> they are two world-changing figures. it's kind of amazing to live at the same time they're in existence. do you remember how people said don't nominate donald trump, nobody good is going to work with him in the second administration. not only does he have good people, he has, in many cases, far better people than in the first administration, and that's another reason why he's having such a successful -- stuart: can he keep up the pace? >> you have heard so many people say they would do things donald trump is doi

congress. congress needs to appropriate the dollars to spend. sen. hassan: republicans in congress are proposing massive tax cuts for billionaires trying to pay for by massive cuts to education and other services. so you know, new hampshire would lose $60 million in idea funding if idea were illuminated. my time is almost up. the reason that the department of education came about in 1975, idea was passed in 1975. 1979 -- strattera just -- mr. chair, just a second. people need to understand that my son, before idea, before the department of education existed, state and local schools did not educate these kids. they barred them from the classroom. they were institutionalized and abused. there's a reason that the department of education and idea exists because educating kids with disabilities can be really hard. it takes the national commitment to get it done. that is why so many people are so concerned about this proposal to eliminate the department, because they think that kids will once again be shoved aside and especially kids with disabilities. thank you. chair cassidy: senator s

congress seat seated at the time? were they up in new york city as well? and what was the relationship between george washington and the congress? yes. so congress was being held in new york city at federal hall, the same place that washington took the oath of office. he took his oath of office on the balcony and then afterwards he gave his inaugural address in the senate chamber in federal hall. but this was where the first congress was meeting in congress. we continue to meet in new york city for a little whe before moving to philadelphia and then eventually washington, d.c., in 1800. but washington's relationship, i would say, with, you know, with congress early on is is one of, i think, mutual respect. washington is trying to show deference on things that he thinks are more within the scope of the legislative branch, while at the same time trying to safeguard and protect anything that he sees as part of his constitutional response ability as the executive. so, for example, when washington is, you know, is considering different opinions about what is happening with some of the south eastern tribes of other or the united states and sort of the

congress and the republican party. in the world of checks and balances, what role should congress have in your view? mr. sununu: a huge role. prof. sesno: we will -- mr. sununu: the role of congress and that usual branch are key. former president said this to me. what are we gonna do, leaders, the next president, it's all about money and gerrymandering and he said chill out. he said -- come and go but america's institutions are strong. in his right. prof. sesno: are you talking about anybody in particular? [laughter] mr. sununu: i am, he had a thick texas accent. he said a this is the only country in the free world where our parliament -- congress if you will, is elected completely separate from the executive. in those countries, parliament picks the prime minister and we don't. we keep our present completely separate from the legislative branch and we are one of the only places that does set for the purpose of checks and balances. we keep our judicial completely separate. folks get nominated or not nominated on politics of course and that's why the pendulum goes back and forth. but the fact we have the checks and balances that virtually no other country has a -- don't forget the

we will need congress -- congress to give us money, it should have been done decades ago.s is a time. let's fix the system and make sure it's safer and more efficient. i'm sick of the delays. safer, more efficient. >> laura: mr. secretary, some people are afraid to fly now. i'm not saying is logical because the stats. this rattles people. would you support president trump taking a commercial flight as a symbolic gesture of confidence in commercial aviation? >> that's a decision the president would have to make but i know his administration, i do, everyone at the faa we take commercial flights because we trusted. and you would see people running for the hills if they did not trusted. to your point of this rattles people. and again, when these crashes happen they make big news but again air travel, way safer than traveling in a car or train. this is a safest mode of transportation and again, i think we should understand that as a public but then also demand that we cannot stand to have these crashes. these are unacceptable and they expect leadership from the department of tr

congress had a vote on the iraq war. congress had a vote on the authorization to use military force. congress had a vote on welfare reform. congress voted on bill clinton's vision for public safety to put a hundred thousand police officers on the street. congress voted for the war on drugs. these are things i might not -- have always agreed with but strong presidents come before congress in alignment with the constitution with a respect for the separation of powers, with abiding by the law strong presidents stand in the well of the house of representatives and give a vision for this country. as it says in my faith without vision, the people will perish. god bless the visionary presidents we've had. john f. kennedy pointing to the skies and saying we will go to the moon. and then what did he do? he came to congress with a vision to increase funding for science, math, for stem education. what did he do? came to congress with a vision for making nasa something that would be the envy of the word. would did he do? -- of the world. what did he do? he inspired a nation with a vision that was so comp

congress says fund this much for health fund this much for education fund this much for humanitarian assistance. the administration negotiates that budget with congress every year and then executes that. i don't see where they're seeing some huge disconnect. certainly the agency is not operating on its own power. they're operating under congressional and state department directives. >> on the doge personnel that went to headquarters this weekend and apparently got access to usaid, usaid, security systems, and personnel files. what would they gain trying to access that information? what do you think their objectives were? >> that is a very, very important question to dig into. you know, like any national security agency. and of course, usaid is a national security agency, part of the foreign policy apparatus. they have access to highly classified intelligence through their secure facilities. it's very, very worrying if people without the appropriate clearances got into those facilities. and, you know, if i'm a if i'm a partner country of the united states that shares intelligence, i'm now wondering, is elon musk or is some 23 year old who works for el

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congress? >> we are members of congress, as she said. >> federal employee working for the... >> we are members of congress led us in. n allowed in. >> private security contracted to block members of congress. >> you understand we are members of congress. >> we have a job to do. >> members of congress. >> i am a member of congress with oversight responsibility. >> we are members of congress with the department of education. >> greg: i feel like i'm at the waffle house and they ran out of waffles. but there is more. >> members of congress you are denying their oversight role? >> you do not have a business reason to be here. >> were you told to deny members of congress from entering this building? >> there is no business purpose so that is why. >> you are prepared to shoot us a? we want in. >> this is a civil rights violation. the man who blocked the doors of the department of education. get a good copy of him. let him answer for what he is doing today. that his children see it. what is your name? tell us your name. give me that idea again. >> greg: maxine has not been this angry since fred sanders told her he would rat

. >> jacqui: do you think congress' eyes were open because the agency was created by congress for spending ordered by congress congress to get across the changes the president wants to make. do you see congress following through with this? if not, what can be done without congress? >> well, i am hopeful congress will take all of this seriously. but shy of congress actually dismantling and shutting down the department, one of the most important ways to get power pack to a more local level is to simply take the funds appropriated by congress and block grant them back to the states. take all of the bureaucrats in washington out of the equation and let states put the policies together that will work best for the students at that level. at the local level. importantly, supporting universal school choice, education freedom, so that families can make those decisions. you start there and then the other parts of the department, what it does is easily be handled by other agencies. >> jacqui: do you think there needs to be a sweetener for people who will oppose this, you know, the facts on the schools rely on federal mo