so who is going to lead our discussion on the congressional review act? mike is currently previously served as a chief counsel to senate republican leader mitch mcconnell and as chief counsel for the nominations constitutional law on the senate judiciary committee. we have steve bellah, who is associate professor of political science public policy and public administration, and the co-director of the george washington regulatory studies center. it has a wealth of information on its website, and a handout has been provided to you as a sample of its in important work on this issue. steve currently serves working on several projects related to congressional oversight of regulatory and transparency and participate patient and state rulemaking. next, we have amanda neely, who is counsel at gibson dunn, a member of the public policy congressional investigations and white collar practice. amanda has extensive of previous capitol hill experience, including as the director of governmental affairs for senate homeland security and governmental affairs and general co

we go live now to a discussion on the review of the congressional review act. live coverage on c-span. >> we are pleased you are here with us. before we get started with introductions, i wanted to share my sincere thanks with tom demo tio from the senate judiciary committee for hosting us and providing this exceptional space for today's important discussion. i will be introducing the moderator and the panelists very briefly and then turn it over to our moderator who is going to lead our discussion on the congressional review act. like has previously served as the chief counsel to senate republican leader mitch mcconnell and as chief counsel for the nominations and constitutional law on the senate judiciary committee. we have an associate per effort -- professor of local science and public administration and the codirector of the george washington regulatory study center that has a wealth of information on its website and a handout has been provided to you as a sample of their important work on this issue. he currently serves, working on several projects pleaded

then the gao sent a letter that was put into the congressional record at the time. it was disapproved of on a bipartisan basis and vetoed. i think the theory here would be will the trump administration go back and look for other things like that that they could, that they look at now and say -- actually, we believe those are rules, because the cra is not limited to rulemaking. it's very broad. mr. wickham: that's right. as a practical matter, we are getting into the weeds here, but the parliamentarian office will often lay out a practical roadmap. you have a rule or regulation, you are looking for the date it was submitted. that will be the text you will use to start the procedure. that will be the date that is used to help the fast track. but if you say -- what about this thing that hasn't been mentioned? we believe that the very next stop should be the gao. they are the ones who make that determination, right or wrong. and then the agency and the congress will pivot from that decision. ms. hamm: i think in this example new agencies would submit as though it were j

the way i view it is there are two uses, main uses of the congressional review act. the one we are here today to talk about, because of the configuration of a new republican administration with republican majorities in both chambers, we are here to talk about the use of the cra to disapprove the late era biden regulations. i want to highlight that there is a different purpose, and that is the cra and resolutions of disapproval are often used as messaging devices, as instruments to signal a policy stance, position taking, however you might want to think about it. the reason i mention this is over the history of the congressional review act which dates back to 1996, there have been a total of 20 regulations disapproved. 16 of those came barring -- came during the first trump in administration, three during the biden administration and one during the bush administration. that's 20. examples of that usage. in that time, there have been 460 one resolutions of disapproval introduced in either the house or the senate. that usage has been increasing exponentially in recent y

and missouri's fourth congressional district is excited for their thai food. i can't waist to taste it myselt myself. congratulations to thai house. we love to see your hard work come to fruition and we look forward to your future success. mr. speaker, i rise today to say happy birthday to my mother, caroline sue adams alford. it's her 86th birthday today, mr. speaker. she was a school bus driver, she was an executive assistant at exxon u.s.a., a mother of four boys, a sweeted a line with always a song in her heart and great advice for her four boys. and, mom, love you very much. happy birthday, mother. and, mr. speaker, with that i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the chair recognizes the gentleman from puerto rico, mr. hernandez rivera, for five minutes. mr. rivera: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, the administration recently announced sharp cuts to federal grant funding for universities, medical centers and other research institutions. these cuts will devastate our students, our professors, our seniors, and what concerns me the most, these cuts will

i represent oregon's 3rd congressional district.ll week, like many of my colleagues, i've heard from thousands of constituents who are outraged that an unelected billionaire is unilaterally dismantling our government. in the last week alone, elon musk has seized control of the u.s. department of treasury's payment system, exposing americans' most personal financial information. he has shuttered the u.s. agency for international aid -- usaid -- putting the lives of millions of people at risk across the world. threatened the national oceanic and atmospheric administration, undermining our work to combat the climate crisis. this is just the start. i received, again, over 1,000 emails and calls this week demanding action, and that's why i introduced my first bill, the stop musk act, to protect federal workers who are at the forefront of elon musk's power grab. this bill is in direct response to what i'm hearing from my constituents -- a demand for action. my bill prohibits retaliation of any kind against any federal employee who resists

this is another question aimed at democrats' confidence that congressional democrats can oppose trump effectively. those that said "a lot" state about the same. "some" was at 44% in january and dropped to 36%, and those that said that their confidence level was "not much or none" was at 40% in january and 48% now. the question for republicans said, among republicans, should congressional republicans' approach to trump b -- support one agree, push back when disagree, 60% agreed. 40% said that congressional republicans should support whatever trump wants. i wonder what you think of that and where you would be if you are asked those polling questions, what do you think of that? here's is an article from abc news about elon musk. it said he was drilled about doge transparency, and he was in the office with president trump. here's a portion of that. [video clip] >> is it normally this quiet? >> you are detractors. >> i don't believe it. >> say you are orchestrating a hostile takeover of government and doing it in a nontransparent way. what is your response to that? >> first of all, you cou

single congressional district. why? every district on average gets $2 million a month from social security. because it goes directly to those constituents of yours, mr. speaker, that i just named. and where do they spend that money, mr. speaker? right back in your district. right back at the local pharmacy, at the grocery store, heating and cooling their homes. putting gas in their tank. this is what the american people are facing. when are people in this body going to have the guts to stand up and take a vote for your constituents? people who haven't seen a benefit enhancement in more than 50 years. do you think the cost of living has changed a little? is it ok that five million of your fellow americans get below poverty level checks having paid into a system all their lives? is it ok that most of them are women because they have spent time in the workforce taking care of their children. when they were in the workforce were earning less. rise up, america. rise up, mr. speaker, and join us in saying, let's have a vote.

he said he doesn't need congressional approval to shutter it. he made some accusations about fraud regarding that agency that i at least had not heard before. he also talked about tariffs, discussing his phone call with mexican president claudia sheinbaum this morning, an agreement that mexico made to send 10,000 troops to their border to try to block fentanyl and undocumented immigrants from crossing the border. he also previewed his conversation with prime minister justin trudeau of canada later this afternoon. >> that's right. he's really trumpeting this approach, which is using tariffs as a big stick, whether it is in colombia or whether it is in mexico, where they have agreed to get a pause in these tariffs to have 10,000 mexican soldiers on the border. and when it comes to canada, as he's waging a trade war there, and we're seeing this expecting this call here in about an hour, he said. we don't need them to take our cars, but what is sort of missing, and we're going to bring in our reporters to talk about this is just how inextricably lin

in new york's 0th congressional district, more than 127,000 people on medicaid would be at risk of losing their health care under the republican budget plans. so to take away this life-saving coverage is cruel in its own right but to do it all to further blind the -- to further line the pockets of their donors, of the wealthiest republicans and corporation, is despicable. so we need to do something here with this budget, we're ready to move forward and have negotiations, but we are going to defend those most in need of these programs. working family, the middle income community, those looking to ascend to the middle income community. now it's my great pleasure to introduce a friend and colleague, a strong voice for california, representative jimmy panetta. mr. panetta: thank you. i appreciate my colleague's leadership, especially now when i think all of us, all of us in congress and this country are experiencing tough times. experiencing an aggressive executive branch, responsive judicial branch but here on capitol hill we're experiencing a sub missive, a destructive, an ineffective and i

i represent nevada's fourth congressional district. and as a member of the ways and means committee, i want my constituents to know that i'm working hard to defend them every single day. now, look, the american people elected donald trump. to run our government for four years. not to gut it for generations to come. we only have one president at a time, and nobody voted for elon musk. nobody voted for his hackers. the largest illegal data breach in u.s. history took place on this administration's watch. at this administration's direction. and we still don't know who is in charge or what they're up to. the american people trust our civil service to meet their needs. not the billionaire class. instead, one man, elon musk, can now decide if hardworking americans receive their tax refunds, when they receive their tax refunds, even who among us will receive one. democrat or republican, independent or unaffiliated. nobody in this country agreed to give an unelected oligarch their home address, social security number, bank routeing information

. >> need congressional approval. >> and he. >> said he might consider it right. you cover lawmakers on the hill. are they down with that? >> yeah. >> they. >> actually are. republicans are. anyway, speaker mike johnson said today that the president is taking legitimate executive action. now, this is something that conservatives, especially russell vogt, the new omb director, have been writing. about and talking about and warning about for a. >> couple decades. >> now, which is this expanded executive. authority to really take control of the. >> executive branch. >> to get kind. >> of. >> wonky here. it's called the unitary executive theory, and it has been gaining. >> steam over recent years. >> and that gives the president. expanded powers over the executive branch. and now the republicans in congress are allowing. >> the president. >> to do it. >> they're having. >> these discussions over funding, over the budget. but there's. >> also this underlying. >> question of. >> does any of it matter, especially if the president challenges or doesn't want to do any. of

it was the hat trick of congressional hearings for the remaining three.most controversial of his picks bobby kennedy, tulsi gabbard and kash patel. and so while everybody was chasing that shiny object of die that day, those hearings were amazing. i watched most of of each of the three and the exchanges. i could spend the hour just showing you a highlights reel, and i argue that 98% of americans have no idea what took place in those hearings. but the die debate. oh yeah, that they're familiar with. still to come, your social media reaction by commentary and early polling shows that. listen to this. now, president trump is up ten points compared to where he was during his first time. first term. is bill maher right in saying, you know what? he's become cool. i also want to remind you, go to the website. you just heard me reference it. answer today's poll question. do you believe president trump's blaming of di, that it was all deliberate to take away our focus from the congressional hearings? when you're there, sign up for the daily newsletter. at smerconis

so far. >> they're repealing them -- >> the congressional consent portion, though. if it's another matter you have to consult with congress before you destroy an agency or dismantle it. >> they raise issues, but they're different because it depends on what the law actually says. the usaid and trying to put those employees on administrative leave, i think thee are 3,000 of them and kind of the forced evacuations of their host countries and there's a court judge here in d.c., a trump appointee put that on hold and pointed to a specific federal law that says that he has to consult congress before you're going to dismantle or really reorganize usaid. so that one -- that's a pretty strong lawsuit right there. that's a strong one, but that judge also upheld part of secretary rubio's order that would freeze future funding of usaid projects. >> chris, quickly, on the national security question of having these doge employees which the white house says have national security clearances and are only looking. is there risk? >> theoretically, there are various risks with access

i think that congressional congress has abdicated too many responsibilities.t to the war powers act back from the 70s, when basically the presidents now have a right to declare war without congressional approval. world war two entrance into world war two, as you know, stephanie, and entrance into world war one had to get congressional approval. we now enter wars. without that, congress stopped asserting itself. in the course of that, both democrat and republican congresses, i would say, didn't assert enough against the executive branch. but right now, the bigger problem is, is that we have one of the major legacy parties of our country who has decided that getting what you want is more important than paying attention to the constitution and to the what was established by our founders and the checks and balances. and that's a huge problem. >> well, then, before i let you go, when you were, i'm guessing you watched president trump in the oval office today. if all of this is about how do they juice up the power of the presidency, what's your reaction to seeing th

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so on behalf of virginia's fifth congressional district, happy 110th birthday. and with that i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. the speaker pro tempore: there being no further requests for one-minutes, the house will be in recess subject to the call of the chair for a period of less than 15 minutes. >> we'll cover the house when members return here on-sn. c-span, democracy unfiltered. funded by these television companies and more. including wow. >> the world has changed and today a fast, reliable internet connection is something no one can live without so wow is there with speed, reliability and choice. now more than ever it starts with great internet. >> wow supports c-span as a public service along with these other television providers, giving you a front row seat to democracy. ♪ >> democracy, it isn't just an idea, it's a process. a process shaped by leaders elected to the highest offices and entrusted to a select few with guarding its basic principles. it's where debates unfold, decisions are made, and the nation's course is charter

these funds prove a boon for the congressional dominant foreign aid industry. president trump's leadership has created a unique opportunity to fast fast-track important reforms of our aid system. secretary rubio might look at the reforms made during the last trump administration. our starting point was that the purpose of foreign aid is to end the need for it. foreign aid is not an international welfare program. usaid is not an international ngo. these must align with american interests and values. a final point. congress must also do its part. why should prolong us south africa, beijing's point country in africa, received billions of aid from us? we should support our friends instead. thank you, and i look forward to question. >> thank you guy now recognize mr. yoho for his opening statement. >> mr. chairman, ranking member meeks, the members of the committee, it's another to participant in this hearing regarding usaid. i'm a former member of congress serving from 2013-2020 would represent florida's third congressional district. during my years ago i served on

they create the baseline, not the congressional budget office.g anyway, john carney. >> that's right. there's no reason for them to accept that the sunsetting tax cuts is the baseline and that they need to just -- everything else increases the deficit. but i also think that steve moore is absolutely right. there's no reason to worry about a trying to balance the budget in this bill. do the tax cuts now, and then we can spend the next few years fixing the overpending of the federal government -- overspending. we have to get the tax cuts in right now, as soon as people start to fear that that's not coming through -- >> yes. >> -- we will see an economic calamity to occur. march arkansas yeah. you should are heard -- >> i add something to that, larry? larry: newt gingrich talked about the economic calamity and the political calamity, okay? if that was newt's point. >> it is. larry: you know, 2026 could be a political calamity if they keep waiting and waiting or just don't get it done at all, steve. i mean, that's what you were going to say. please,

the cra and there are certainly elements in the democratic party that don't want to embrace a congressional review act and want to see it abolished. certainly on the progressive wing. there is more of an appetite in other wings of the democratic party i think to, to be involved in at least the symbolic free vote aspect that arises in certain points of the electoral calendar. i would certainly expect to see, once the current look-back window closes, to see record-breaking democratic introductions. i do think that, in the end, that distinction between republicans and democrats historically, i think that this conversation is right, it is a substantially similar provision that has been particularly frightening from the democratic point of view. mr. fragoso: thanks, everyone, for being here. we are coming up on one hour. thank you to everyone in the panel. hopefully you found it useful and can hit the ground running over the next couple of months to make some hay out of the congressional review act. thank you. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for i

until then let the congressional record show and every person in this building know the u.s. government knew that ethel rosenburg was innocent. we knew that she was not a spite. and we executed her anyway. and i find that to be a disgrace. i want to apologize for the pain and grief her family suffered because of what happened. ethel was put to death during the height of mccarthyism, a time of hysteria when due process was cast aside. she was put to death at a time when due process was not guaranteed and our democratic values were not always upheld. we let fear and anger and hate get the best of us. we are currently living through an equally troubling time in our country. people are being targeted and attacked for the way they think, what they say, and who they are. facts must still matter, mr. speaker. let's learn from our unperfect history nothing will bring ethel rose henburg back or erase the pain and challenges her sons have had to face in her absence. as we continue to work to exonerate her, my hope is by telling her story we can prevent this dark chapter in history from

but you do that through a congressional process. it is literally congress' number one job to allocate funding, to decide how we're going to tax and spend those taxpayer dollars. trump is choosing to do this exclusively through an unelected businessman who has serious conflicts of interest in the work that he's done. and not bringing it through congress. so you know, i will just reiterate that we feel a strong unity in opposition to what he's doing. and accountability needs to be placed at the feet of the republicans. reporter: [inaudible] ms. scholten: they have a three-seat majority. i have said since the election, they might have a technical majority, they do not have a governing majority. they need democrats. they need democratic women to vote with them in order to accomplish what they need to accomplish. the people of west michigan sent me here for a reason, send my colleagues here for a reason. we're here to stand up for our constituents. it is an incredible leverage point for us not only to accomplish those objectives for our

congressional record developed in a lot of places like the senate judiciary committee and the senate banking committee. and the bicameral members of the helsinki commission. this clash of civilizations that i'm talking about is a very serious national security threat. many of the really dangerous events and people's that we have had to fight in the last decades have emerged from the other side of that clash. from countries where there was not rule of law, from countries where kleptocrats ruled, where legitimate government had been taken over by criminal organizations. so i think there's a strong record of that. we are trying to show that record into these cases about the corporate transparency act. so i'm hoping that there will be a bit of a reversion. they came in and fentanyl was a huge issue for them. i respect the attorney general's desire to focus all the efforts of the department of justice on these cartels. i do think that, as other countries we've been working with against this international dark economy and the criminality that it supports, come forward and push, it will see

agency to agency and shut down things that are congressionally, congressionally created and congressionallyill get to the supreme court. >> your group, as well as 19 state attorneys general, also sued the treasury department for granting doj's access to confidential data. and just today, a federal judge has temporarily blocked political appointees and special government employees, including those at doj, from accessing that data. as i mentioned, we also have the birthright citizenship, which has also been temporarily paused. tell us a little bit about how you read these initial first stage wins, if that's even the right word for it. what can you tell us about these temporary orders? >> well, they're all temporary, but. >> hopefully they're going to. >> be permanent. >> and block these lawless efforts of the trump musk administration. they're going to play out over time. and it's obvious that the administration. >> is willing to take. >> a lot of losses and assume that some stuff will get through. the other limitation we face is that even when we win. real destruction can be done. so aid. >>

but my colleagues team content to give up our congressional power of the purse. where is the so-called party of law and order? that party is willing to look the other way on enforcing the law like the laws that protect funding approved by congress into law. the so-called proclaimed party of law and order is willing to let chaos rein and thousands of americans see the funding they rely on to get frozen, their benefits put on the chopping block, and even their jobs eliminated by what, an unelected billionaire. my constituents are crying out for us to do something and i want to ensure them we are doing something. we are here even as they get ready to turn off the lights working to craft legislation that will block right wing activists and the use of our power in this chamber, to halt all the efforts to deny the law and promote chaos over order. new dems are the tip of the spear. we'll fight ill conceived tariffs, plots to raise your taxes to pay for tax cuts for who? the richest people in our country. fight invasions of your privacy and of course fight to deliver wh

-- actually and congressionally funded. you can't allow some made up department to come in and steal away an agency that we have authorized. where is your courage? where -- on this bill it's also such a diversion from what we should be doing and that's funding opioid use addiction. you can bring this h.r. 27 say it's the be all, end all. but everyone has weighed in to say it doesn't get the job done. don't take it from me. take it from the american society of addiction medicine. the doctors and counselors who treat our neighbors who suffer from addition. they say on behalf of the society on addiction medicine, which is a national medical specialty representing more than 8,000 physicians and associated health professionals, who specialize in the prevention and treatment of addition, they -- addiction, they write to urge the amendments to amend the unintended consequences be added. in the end, though, they said if are you not going to allow us to offer real amendments to fix the bill, they recommend not passing the halt fenta

sir, pursuant to section 803-a of the congressional recognition for excellence and arts education act2 u.s.c. 803-a, i'm pleased to appoint the honorable david trone of potomac, maryland, to the congressional award board. signed sincerely, hakeem jeffries, democratic leader. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to clause 12-a of rule 1, the chair declares the house in recess subject to the call of the chair. democrats are under pressure to all all the stops with government funding bei t biggest point of leverage. house minority leader has announced new rapid response and ligaon task force for the demoat according to news reports it is led by top democrats on the appropriations, oversight and judiciary committees. follow live coverage of c-span and on our website c-span. org. and c-spannow. find coverage any time on c-span. org. videos of key hearings and other events that guide you to highlights. they appear on the right-hand of your screen. this timeline makes it easy to quickly get an idea what was debated and decided in washington. scroll through and find out about c-span's points of

our congressional correspondent lisa desjardins is following the cabinet confirmation process and joins lisa, let's start with hhs first, since it is one of the largest federal agencies. what is the committee's vote mean? lisa: unless something changes, rfk junior will become the next hhs secretary. there are enough votes on the floor for him. he is a 71-year-old, of course, who does not have a history or expertise in health care. he spent years researching and writing about health care. he does deserve credit for changing the conversation about processed foods, and that is what we heard during his senate confirmation hearing, but at the same time, there are open doubts about his views and passed statements about vaccines, studies have shown there is no link between autism and vaccines, and that raised real concerns about him. you can hear are very sharply different views of him in committee today. sen. tillis: i, for one, think that it is time to put a disrupter in. it is time to put somebody in there that's going to go wild. but there are areas where i think that's exactly what we nee

host: congressional reporter for the hill. see her work at thehill.com.hanks for getting through the snow and coming in this morning. later we will speak to republican mike flood of nebraska on issues related to the budget plans, immigration and doge efforts, but first it is open forum. start calling in now. republicans (202) 748-8001. democrats (202) 748-8000. independents (202) 748-8002. we will be right back. >> listening to programs on c-span through c-span radio is easy. tell your smart speaker to play c-span radio and listen to washington journal daily at 7:00 eastern. important public affairs events throughout the day and weekdays catch washington today. listen to c-span any time. tell your smart speaker to play c-span radio. c-span. created by cable. >> c-spanshop.org is c-span's online store. browse through our latest collection of c-span products, apparel, books, and accessories. there is something for every c-span fan. every purchase helps support our nonprofit operations. shop now or anytime at c-spanshop.org. on thursday president trump's nom

that is usurpation of power that is a congressional power. and i also am disturbed that my staff has told me that acting secretary carter has locked the doors to the people's department of education. so what i invite the media and all of my colleagues to do is to walk over to those doors and hopefully acting secretary carter will have the decency to reverse the decision to lock those doors. we simply want to have a conversation with her and we have a question to ask her. acting secretary carter, will you, will you stand up to a would-be king who thinks that he can dismantle the department of education without congressional concurrence? he must go through the u.s. congress to take apart a department that was established. will you join me and members of the media, will you follow us to those doors? >> we're members of congress. >> article 1. >> thank you. >> ok. we're coming in. we're coming in. we're members of congress. >> don't lock the door. we're coming in. who are you? >> you're not coming in. >> who are you? >> under whose orders? >> who

secretary of the senate on february 12, 2: -- 2/25/, appointments in europe, finance committee as congressionalon trade policy and negotiations to international conferences meetings and negotiation sessions relating to trade agreements, joint committee on taxation and washington's farewell address, signed sincerely kevin f. mccumber. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from arizona, mr. biggs, seek recognition? mr. biggs: pursuant to house resolution 122, i call up the bill h.r. 77 and ask for its immediate consideration in the house. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the title of the bill. the clerk: h.r. 77, a bill to remand chapter 8 of title 5 united states code to provide for en bloc consideration and resolutions of disapproval for midnight rules and for other purposes. the speaker pro tempore: pursuan t to house rule 122, the bill is considered read. the bill shall be debated for one hour, equally divided and controlled by the chair and ranking minority member on the committee on the judiciary or respective designees. the gentleman from arizona, mr. b

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congressional authorization would be required to abolish, move or consolidate usaid.o have you -- do you expect congress to actually authorize the president to dismantle and consolidate usaid? >> i think there's a tremendous appetite to do t again, margaret, because we what want to see is alignment of our programs with america's national security interest. usaid has been out of control. i have demanded accountable from aid, they have refused it. i've asked them to be very clear about, for example, their role funding hamas in gaza. they would not comply. they will not tell us what they do. now that we start to find out some of the programs that aid has been funding, if you think about it, sex change operations in guatemala, lgbtq programs in serbia -- >> the u.s. government does not fund sex change operations or fund hamas. you know that, though. but you -- >> that is not true, margaret. i couldn't get the secretary of state -- i asked him three times to tell me that we were not funding hamas through aid. he couldn't do it. and frankly what we found -- >> do you have a

i also serve as the proud chairwoman of the congressional black caucus. i'm here today to say that we stand with you. thank you to president kelly, my colleagues, and our friends leading this movement in this moment. and all others gathered with us on this cold february day. it is great to be here with you all, although i wish it were not under these circumstances, such dire circumstances. we all know why we are here. we all know that donald trump and elon musk and their army of fools and followers are reaching over or against the american people and the federal workforce. their actions are as deliberate as they are despicable. and they will not rest, they will not sleep, they will not back down an inch until they have broken every law, every institution, necessary to line their pockets. so, let's be clear. the authoritarian creeps that are proliferating the white house are only fighting to make america weaker. they don't give a single damn about the people they heard along the way. don't fall for their propaganda about government efficiency. don't let yo

and congressional republicans in the end didn't go along with it.oint out all of the. problems with. what the trump administration. >> wants to do on immigration. >> which i. >> think most americans feel. is too extreme, even though. >> yes, in 2024. there was. >> a more conservative approach on on. immigration than in 2020. >> no doubt. >> about that. the times were different. but the problem with the trump administration is i think they're overreaching. and so democrats need. >> to point. >> that out. >> and then also put forward a. >> positive vision on immigration. how can you address. >> concerns at the border but also treat people humanely? >> the problem. >> ali. >> between 2021, when biden took over and then the election of 2024. is that. >> i think. >> biden and. >> i said this many. >> times. >> he never put forward that positive vision. he never really pushed back. >> as things went further. >> and. >> further to the right. democrats should not make that mistake. they're going to have an opportunity because. >> the trump administration. >

what can congressional democrats do to combat some of these orders being carried out? >> i mean, look, there's. >> not a lot of options when. >> you're. >> in the minority in both chambers. it's very difficult for democrats to really have much to do beyond the protests that we've seen them launch, besides kind of the way that they've been pushing back publicly and speaking out against some of these actions taken by elon musk and president trump. but a lot of this is going to rely on republicans. whether we see any concerns among republicans, especially in the senate, whether we see any break from what has been pretty solid support behind anything that president trump does. and, you know, i do think there are some who are a little bit concerned about how this might continue down the road, especially when it comes to elon musk. republicans are very comfortable with president trump and what he stands for and what he plans to do. but there's a little bit more nervousness about elon musk and his role, especially given it's kind of this unique government role that's not full

that is outmotive, congressional budget office and liberal left malarkey. they should not be intimidated by that. listen to what mike -- this basically, you know what, the existing tax cuts going back to 2017. paid for themselves and then some. they actually -- there's no cost to them. there's no cost to them. you can't say spending cost money but tax cuts don't or spending doesn't cost money and tax cuts do. then there's a pinball machine on permanent for more spending and higher taxes. gop has to get out of the box and break out of that straight jacket. and president trump is quintessential thinking outside oturu box and a lot of colleagues don't want to hear and unleash american energy and allow the country to grow exponentially, see what happens and i know it's hard to plan for this because it's unconventional times and going to wave a magic wand and that much growth into the economy. we saw the most growth for those and going for them to see the history of the country and why can't we do them all. larry: don't forget the laffer curve. president obama u