we are seeing now i kind of replay of we can say the ghost of neville chamberlain. it was fitting that the recent meeting was in munich, the famous, infamous site where chamberlain came back and said, yes, unfortunately, it is the start of the comparison to hitler. it was a historical fact that neville chamberlain said the adolph hitler was a man that we could trust and believe in. three times he signed pacts that he brought back to england saying adolf hitler was summoned to be trusted. several years ago vladimir putin did a grand, sweeping speech in which he called up the greatness of russia from antiquity, the russian empire, that he wants -- he was open about it, i give him that. he aims to restore, re-conquest the old czarist russian empire and he is doing an excellent job. we've all heard of the nobel peace prize. if this thing somehow ends up being a nobel peace prize awarded to trump or perhaps trump and putin, what it should be is the nobel appeasement prize, not the nobel peace prize. he is appeasing vladimir putin. noticeably absent were the war crimes, t

hegseth is like having neville chamberlain. peace for the world. he held of this big piece of paper coming back from berlin talking to at all filler -- ad olf hitler. host: what you think it will look like? caller: i think putin will get everything he wants. he's like trump. if their lips are moving, they are lying. they will destroy ukraine. i don't trust him. host: what happens if ukraine is destroyed? caller: well, he will be a bigger threat to the rest of eastern europe. especially poland. places like that. the data rinse i hear coming from maga supporters. i'm sorry, maga supporters. you think you know all this history. i'm sorry but you don't. you watch what happens with this. not only that, trump wants us to practically pull out of nato. that is what kept peace for so many years in europe. that is crazy. that is insane. we can't have that. trump, he just thrives on ignorance and anger. ignorance and anger. the united states -- i never dreamt in my life a president of the note states would give up everything to a dictator -- united states wou

he wants to go down in history as a very successful president, as a winner, not as neville chamberlaince the dark and desperate first months of the war. tough choices lie ahead. hamas says it is committed to implementing the gaza ceasefire deal with israel and will continue releasing hostages as scheduled, raising hopes that a resumption of the war can be averted. that is a change from just days ago when the group postponed the release, accusing israel of breaking the terms of the ceasefire. israel says hamas must release three live hostages on saturday under the truce. there have been talks in cairo this week, where it's been reported mediators from egypt and qatar say gaps between the sides have been bridged. i spoke earlier with ahmed fouad alkhatib, a resident senior fellow with the scowcroft middle east security initiative at the atlantic council's middle east programs. i spoke with him about the relief among those in gaza with the ceasefire agreement. my brothers�* a humanitarian work on the ground trying to do as much as the camp, he and his colleagues, with israeli approval. th

he wants to go down in history as a successful president, not as neville chamberlain.s is the toughest moment that ukraine has faced. anchor: hamas says it will release israeli hostages due to a timeline. that is a change from days ago. israel says hamas must release three live hostages on saturday. here is our middle east bureau chief. reporter: tonight, millions of people in gaza are holding their breath to see if this fragile cease-fire deal will hold. hamas was publicly proclaiming that it would stick to the timetable. in the last couple of hours, we have had a rocket launched from gaza. this is an indicator of how tense things are. and how much each side is pushing the other. the israeli government says it expects three live hostages to be released this weekend. and we are expecting hamas to release a list of who they propose to let out of gaza on saturday. if they don't do that, there's a big question on what happens next. israel has committed to releasing a number of prisoners. that has taken up 500 or so prisoners in the last three weeks. all of this began at t

and neville chamberlain called the heads of state together. there's a very significant meeting. and they agreed that, okay, hitler could have sudetenland back. maybe that was a mistake in the versailles treaty because there were germans living there, but that would be the end of it. that was 1938. and we know what happened after that. so you just you you can do your best at the head of state level. you can believe you're the best deal maker in the world. but sometimes hard power realities, national aspirations and understanding what's behind it make a difference. and so i hope that, you know, while we do everything we can to smooth this out at the top level, i hope we don't lose sight of 300 years of russian imperialist expansion of their intelligence agency, the mafia state that they're running, and what the threat is to europe and to the united states, by the way, they do interfere in our elections. >> general wesley clark always valued your input. thank you so much. >> thank you, fredricka. >> and this just in. a woman and a two year old child have died from their injuries af

hegseth is like having neville chamberlain. peace for the world. he held of this big piece of paper coming back from berlin talking to at all filler -- ad olf hitler. host: what you think it will look like? caller: i think putin will get everything he wants. he's like trump. if their lips are moving, they are lying. they will destroy ukraine. i don't trust him. host: what happens if ukraine is destroyed? caller: well, he will be a bigger threat to the rest of eastern europe. especially poland. places like that. the data rinse i hear coming from maga supporters. i'm sorry, maga supporters. you think you know all this history. i'm sorry but you don't. you watch what happens with this. not only that, trump wants us to practically pull out of nato. that is what kept peace for so many years in europe. that is crazy. that is insane. we can't have that. trump, he just thrives on ignorance and anger. ignorance and anger. the united states -- i never dreamt in my life a president of the note states would give up everything to a dictator -- united states wou

but what we saw in 1938, uh, was a terrible, uh, page in history when neville chamberlain negotiated with hitler, gave away about half of czechoslovakia and basically directed the czechoslovakian leadership to accept that deal. and then he said, and then chamberlain says it's peace in our time. then a year later, hitler took the rest of the country and invaded poland. it did not work. and my point is, you can't appease a dictator or someone who wants to invade. you got to stand up to the dictator. i come from the ronald reagan wing of our party. you, we. i do believe in peace through strength. you have to stand up to the bully. uh, we don't have troops in ukraine. i think that's right. but we could do a lot of things to help ukraine prevail. and it means a lot for our national security in the long run. china is watching what trump is doing. iran is watching. and how you handle putin sends a great statement to the rest of the world. >> putin is praising the u.s. and russian delegation there, talks to end the war. putin said that trump's team was, quote, open to the negotiation process

from writing neville chamberlain to do him justice never amplified under his own byline, hitler's propaganda against the czechs. a little history lesson here. when, at the time the idea was, well, give hitler a little piece of czechoslovakia and we'll avoid war. of course we know how that worked out. that is a notable point here, because trump is not just saying, i want to end the war in ukraine. he is. he is repeating russia's framing of this war. and can you just explain how big a deal that is, just in the simplest terms, to have a u.s. president endorse the kremlin's view of an invasion that it started? >> yeah. >> good morning jim. >> it's a really unprecedented situation. >> because when a president of the. >> united states is. >> taking russia's framing, putin's framing specifically to describe what has happened, it would be one thing if the russian position was based on reality, but it is absolutely not based on anything that is that is true. and that is is really the the space that we're living in. so what zelenskyy did when he talked about president trump inhabiting a disinformation

make a deal with hitler, saying that even, even neville chamberlain to do him justice. quoting from here, never amplified under his own byline hitler's propaganda against the czechs. trump is amplifying kremlin. the kremlin propaganda here. isaac, we have a new cnn poll out today, which we're going to detail later this hour, which does show that his approval rating is underwater. um, but but still one of the highest approval ratings he had going back to his last term, the afghanistan withdrawal, uh, greatly hurt joe biden. and, by the way, was a source of enormous republican criticism of joe biden. does trump risk an afghanistan in effect, if he abandons ukraine? >> uh, perhaps. i think what happened with joe biden was a specific circumstance around afghanistan, which is his whole thought that he put forward to the american people in 2020, is that he was confident he knew how the world worked. he could do things. and then the withdrawal from afghanistan in those couple of days was so messy. the marines who were killed, it felt like, oh, you're not competent. it hit at t

trump in particular, will stop providing us weaponry, because if we fall as a winner, not as neville chamberlainud temperatures, 5 degrees there for aberdeen, 9 degrees in plymouth. in the south—west, around 8 or 9 degrees. now, what about next week? to make much progress, should eventually push we mussms howe rs. , it could potentially turn quite windy. this is bbc news. welcome to hardtalk, from washington, dc. security adviser. it's a great pleasure.

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investments and that includes providing security guarantees for ukraine. is that that is where neville chamberlaine gets any success in ukraine, before you even start negotiations, then you will start so i would say to president trump, don't let ukraine don't let putin defeat you. seek peace, but seek a fair and lasting peace. do you think the us should then roll back on their position from earlier the organisation you used to be the secretary general of? yes, indeed. and deploy troops on ukrainian soil. just put some flesh on the bones, then. about being deployed to ukraine as part of a, as you call it, you will have france, germany, poland, the nordics, the baltics. presumably, that commitment of those 100,000 troops at all times would have to be open—ended? of the korean war. for war later on. presence in greenland. you're welcome. we put the idea of tens of thousands of european boots on the ground so we know clearly how we will as well defend our nato troops. yes, if there will be a decision of nato countries sending the troops and overall nato decision, then yes. peacekeeping force? invades

we are seeing now i kind of replay of we can say the ghost of neville chamberlain. it was fitting that the recent meeting was in munich, the famous, infamous site where chamberlain came back and said, yes, unfortunately, it is the start of the comparison to hitler. it was a historical fact that neville chamberlain said the adolph hitler was a man that we could trust and believe in. three times he signed pacts that he brought back to england saying adolf hitler was summoned to be trusted. several years ago vladimir putin did a grand, sweeping speech in which he called up the greatness of russia from antiquity, the russian empire, that he wants -- he was open about it, i give him that. he aims to restore, re-conquest the old czarist russian empire and he is doing an excellent job. we've all heard of the nobel peace prize. if this thing somehow ends up being a nobel peace prize awarded to trump or perhaps trump and putin, what it should be is the nobel appeasement prize, not the nobel peace prize. he is appeasing vladimir putin. noticeably absent were the war crimes, t

hegseth is like having neville chamberlain. peace for the world.e held of this big piece of paper coming back from berlin talking to at all filler -- ad olf hitler. host: what you think it will look like? caller: i think putin will get everything he wants. he's like trump. if their lips are moving, they are lying. they will destroy ukraine. i don't trust him. host: what happens if ukraine is destroyed? caller: well, he will be a bigger threat to the rest of eastern europe. especially poland. places like that. the data rinse i hear coming from maga supporters. i'm sorry, maga supporters. you think you know all this history. i'm sorry but you don't. you watch what happens with this. not only that, trump wants us to practically pull out of nato. that is what kept peace for so many years in europe. that is crazy. that is insane. we can't have that. trump, he just thrives on ignorance and anger. ignorance and anger. the united states -- i never dreamt in my life a president of the note states would give up everything to a dictator -- united states would

september 1, 1939 when germany invaded poland, there were a lot of people across the world -- neville chamberlain saying we don't want to provoke, we don't want to escalate regional conflicts. a problem that could have been nipped in the bud early ended up as the deadliest war in world history. the prior administration, i wanted to pull my hair out with some of the decisions made. there were silver of us, including -- there were several of us who came to the polish side of the border begging with secretary blinken, begging for mig-29's, all soviet technology. we were told it would be too provocative. now just before january, we are giving f-16 fighter jets, starting to go into russia, and patriot battery missiles. imagine if we would have given all of that equipment on day one. we would be looking at a very different trajectory. when it comes to the topic of ukraine which i care deeply about, that is why i chose on day one to chair that caucus, i think both parties have gotten it wrong. i really have. it is never too late and we will be doing our job with this administration to have a good outcom

to trump want to be the neville chamberlain of the 21st century, blind to the rise of a dictator whotaking over the country's? don't think he wants that, and yet he is risking that. that is what the german chancellor had to say yesterday. he is intervening right before a february 3rd election in germany and vance went to visit with the head of that party. this is unbelievable. >> shannon: mollie, i could see itching to respond. >> mollie: we have had this foreign policy in europe where people have enabled a war that has been absolutely catastrophic to the people of ukraine. we see images of the war in gaza all the time and how horrific that is. we haven't gotten a lot of media coverage. there have been a million casualties in ukraine, with no plan for actual success or ending to that work prior to trump coming in and saying we need to stop the carnage, we need to help ukraine rebuild. all of this outsized rhetoric i think is what people are really wanting to move away from. caring about america's interests and saying we cannot be the world's piggy bank anymore, that europe actually h

this trump want to be that neville chamberlain to the rise of a dictator who is intent on taking overcountries? i don't think he wants that. and yet he is risking that. that's the german chancellor schultz had to say yesterday. he is intervening right before a february 23 election in germany. and visiting vance went to visit with the head of that party. this is unbelievable. shannon: i can see you're itching to respond. >> the issue here we have had this foreign policy in europe people have enabled a war that's been absently catastrophic to the people of ukraine. we see images of the war in gaza all the time and how horrific that is but we've not got a lot of media coverage for this been a million casualties in ukraine with ending to that war. we need to stop the carnage. we need to help ukraine rebuild. are really one to move away from. caring about america's interest that we cannot be the world's a piggy bank anymore and they have to care about their defense that's not something just donald trump assent. obama's secretary of defense gates say the same thing during his presidency. th

but i wonder if the history of neville chamberlain is more instructive that appeasement is for losersoint to keep america from decimating its most important alliance? >> well, i think you're right. >> i think the. >> parallels to 1938 have been coming. >> up. >> all weekend. and the idea. >> of. >> appeasement and weakness and sacrificing. these nations, whether. >> it's czechoslovakia. >> or ukraine. >> those those. >> come. >> up in too many conversations. >> and i. >> think it is also true what you. >> said that is. >> president trump does. >> not want. >> to be a loser. >> president trump wants. >> to be. >> a winner. in order. >> to do that, he. needs to. >> show strength. >> and he. >> needs to lean. >> on putin. >> he can. >> bring putin to. >> the table. >> that's apparently what he's. >> able to do. he's bringing putin to the table. >> that's showing strength. >> and that. >> would be a. >> winner if he can. if he can dominate putin. >> john hudson, thank you for your reporting on this really extraordinary moment. ambassador taylor, we're going to ask you to stick around a li

. >> michael crowley i heard from folks en route to munich a lot of parallels to neville chamberlain.there anyone clever enough around donald trump to convey the truth of the capitulation to putin that it epitomizes almost unparalleled worldwide weakness? >> you know, nicole, i just i think that the way trump and a lot of people around him look at the world right now, it's domestic and it's foreign. is that all the smart people are always wrong. and these mottos that they live by, like neville chamberlain and appeasement, are something that the establishment swears by. and it's gotten us into all these problems. it got us into wars in the middle east. and i just think they don't think that way. they're not, they're not they don't have the same reaction to sort of historical truths or, you know, slogans like that in the same way that that most administrations, every administration in my lifetime has. and so i just it's a completely different way of thinking. and to some degree, i think that the thought process in this administration sees doing something drastically different and almost

towards putin has him being hailed in london by politicians of all political stripes as another neville chamberlain. that was the british prime minister who traded away european territory in hopes of dissuading hitler from invading anywhere else. and a year later, hitler started his conquest of europe. >> gave him a little bit of czechoslovakia in hopes he wouldn't take the rest. and then he went and took the rest. jim sciutto kim dozier, thank you both for being here, kate. >> rfk jr. has been confirmed and also just been sworn in as the secretary of health and human services, now heading up america's public health agencies. and in some of his first comments as secretary, the known vaccine cynic said this. >> i'm not going to take away anybody's vaccine. if people are happy with their vaccines, they ought to be able to get them. what we're going to do is give people good science. we don't have good safety studies on almost any of the vaccines. >> now, that is the very same language that kennedy has used for years and also used during confirmation hearings to win over support from skeptical republi

me of neville chamberlain sitting down with the germans to decide the future of czechoslovakia. peace in our time in 1938. and now it is vladimir putin and donald trump who get to decide the future of ukraine. that's what this war was about. ukraine is russia wanted ukraine. it wants to subjugate ukraine and wants to control ukraine. it wants to make it part of russia. and here the president of the united states says he wants peace. therefore, he's a wonderful human being. and i have now invited him to come here. never mind that he was indicted for war crimes by the international criminal court, which, by the way, we will sanction just as we start to lift sanctions on russia. you know, if it wasn't so serious, you'd think this was a comedy show. it's not. it's deeply tragic and it's real. >> ivo daalder, thank you so much for your time today. i really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> coming up, all the president's lawyers, how trump's personal attorneys are taking control of the department of justice. that's next. >> hi, grandma. i played baseball today. >> oh. that's great. >> w

but to your point, the neville chamberlain vibes are certainly surrounding not just these two who found really donald trump. >> yes. i mean, munich is a very unfortunately, i mean, ominously apt historic venue for this kind of message. i am encouraged and to some degree surprised by the pushback we're now beginning to see from european leaders. keir starmer mentioned britain's prime minister mentioned that no negotiation should take place without the ukrainians being at the table, that ukraine should eventually become a member of nato and uk also impose sanctions on additional members of putin's circle today. boris pistorius, germany's defense minister, said vance's speech was unacceptable. highly strong language for a german and to come out with us. the european counterpart to marco rubio, used the word appeasement. so talk of munich and appeasement. >> we nato may be something out that we are not a part of at any time soon. so sadly, but at least they are holding together without us. always a pleasure. thank you so much. and coming up, how trump's budget cuts and the cash bonanza he a

we are seeing now i kind of replay of we can say the ghost of neville chamberlain.t was fitting that the recent meeting was in munich, the famous, infamous site where chamberlain came back and said, yes, unfortunately, it is the start of the comparison to hitler. it was a historical fact that neville chamberlain said the adolph hitler was a man that we could trust and believe in. three times he signed pacts that he brought back to england saying adolf hitler was summoned to be trusted. several years ago vladimir putin did a grand, sweeping speech in which he called up the greatness of russia from antiquity, the russian empire, that he wants -- he was open about it, i give him that. he aims to restore, re-conquest the old czarist russian empire and he is doing an excellent job. we've all heard of the nobel peace prize. if this thing somehow ends up being a nobel peace prize awarded to trump or perhaps trump and putin, what it should be is the nobel appeasement prize, not the nobel peace prize. he is appeasing vladimir putin. noticeably absent were the war crimes, the

president, in 1938, british prime minister neville scharff enlan -- chamberlain touted the munich agreement as a way to stave off hitler's nazi germany, claiming it would, quote, secure peace in our time. a year later, hitler invaded poland and triggered world war ii, a devastating conflict that left europe in ruins and millions dead and displaced. over time, chamberlain's name became synonymous with the term appeasement, for good reason. you see, while chamberlain's goal of peace may have been honorable, he was dangerously naive about the human nature of a tyrant in germany bent on territorial ambition, pursuits that can only be thwarted with a show of strength. well, president trump's art of the deal opening negotiation with vladimir putin has the same odor of appeasement. last week, donald trump announced he's read whyy to make -- ready to make a deal with putin over ukraine, while apparently ignoring ukraine's key demands for peace in fact, trump and his fledgling defense secretary publicly gave away huge concessions at the start, signaling they would not insist on a return to ukraine's

neville chamberlain like appeasement.es. >> yeah. >> well, nicole. >> that is one of the. >> big reactions. >> that we're hearing, which is, you know. >> head scratching over president. >> trump's approach. >> to this negotiation, which. >> is. >> to say. >> that from the outset, he is. making key concessions to the russians over the fate of ukraine. and one of them is. >> to say that the us is dropping. >> its support for. ukraine's eventual. >> membership in nato, which is a long standing us position. you also heard secretary of defense hegseth say that it was unrealistic. >> to expect. >> that ukraine would return to its pre 2014 borders, which not only includes land that was taken by russia in the invasion that occurred in february of 2022, but really refers to the annexation of crimea in early 2014. so essentially saying that we're giving up on crimea now. you might say that it was going to be very difficult to get crimea back, but at least it was something that you could negotiate with, as is nato membership. but i

i'm sure you're hearing even more than i am to neville chamberlain like language around the war in ukrainee two most powerful democratic leaders in america to reassure our allies? >> well, appeasement failed in the 1930s and it will continue to fail. this is one of the reasons why we pushed aggressively to make sure that the united states, in its capacity as leader of the free world, stood by ukraine not just for ukraine's territorial integrity, but because freedom and democracy and truth are on the line. and the post world war two nato alliance, the greatest military alliance in the history of the world. and it was shameful that the vice president went over there and effectively is trying to start the process of detonating it. and we can assure our nato allies that there are members of congress, i believe, on both sides of the aisle, republicans hiding in many ways, but on both sides of the aisle who understand that it's good for america to lead the free world and not turn it over to china and russia and iran. good for america and our national security. and we will continue to press that

. >> neville chamberlain's. >> surrender of the sudetenland and abandonment of the last, best. >> chanceefuse an american. >> backstop, they begin. >> to suggest. >> an american. >> abandonment of europe and a betrayal of ukraine. donald trump will be known as the biggest loser of. >> the. >> 21st century. the man who chose a team. >> that includes. >> russia. >> north korea. >> iran and china over our team. >> that is. >> ukraine, germany, france. >> italy. >> great britain, the folks who have been our. >> partners and. >> allies for. >> decades and who share. >> our values. >> that appears to. >> be what he's doing. >> it does. >> and then what would be. >> the next steps in this? i mean, we've got the. 82nd airborne at. >> the border between poland and ukraine. i mean, how where does this go? if he. >> if it goes as. >> badly as. >> is possible. >> he literally begins. >> to draw american troops. >> out of europe. >> and abandons not just. >> ukraine. >> but nato. >> and europe. >> that would be an awful outcome. it would profoundly destabilize. >> the world and make the american peop

president, in 1938, british prime minister neville scharff enlan -- chamberlain touted the munich agreement as a way to stave off hitler's nazi germany, claiming it would, quote, secure peace in our time. a year later, hitler invaded poland and triggered world war ii, a devastating conflict that left europe in ruins and millions dead and displaced. over time, chamberlain's name became synonymous with the term appeasement, for good reason. you see, while chamberlain's goal of peace may have been honorable, he was dangerously naive about the human nature of a tyrant in germany bent on territorial ambition, pursuits that can only be thwarted with a show of strength. well, president trump's art of the deal opening negotiation with vladimir putin has the same odor of appeasement. last week, donald trump announced he's read whyy to make -- ready to make a deal with putin over ukraine, while apparently ignoring ukraine's key demands for peace in fact, trump and his fledgling defense secretary publicly gave away huge concessions at the start, signaling they would not insist on a return to ukraine's

. >> last week or so, i've heard a lot about neville chamberlain, echoes of neville chamberlain in 1938ace in our time. i think politically, europe was very different then. >> and don't forget. >> and don't forget. >> when hitler lied. so hitler said he's not going to invade that part of czechoslovakia where there are german speaking indigenous people. hitler lied. and then neville chamberlain actually declared war within 48 hours. >> so i think. >> so i think. >> it's a roll of the dice let's hope putin doesn't like. but it's a bitter pill to swallow. it's an awful thing to swallow that an authoritarian dictator can just push west, steal, land. a million men die, and we just have to accept it. it's awful. >> all russia. >> all russia. >> has. >> has. >> done is lie. there was. >> done is lie. there was. >> something called the budapest assurances. >> in 1994. the memorandum or the assurances, which basically guaranteed ukraine's territorial. integrity in return for ukraine giving up its nuclear weapons. >> that turned. out to have been a colossal. mistake and. >> a very. tragic one. >>