also, peter baker, chief. >> white house correspondent for the new. >> york times, and. >> doctor vinta, msnbc medical contributor. >> ryan. >> walk us through. what we expect. >> to happen. >> and which senators. >> we should be watching. >> we're monitoring it right now on the senate finance committee, expected to gavel in at any moment. and that's when they'll begin the process of voting out the confirmation of robert f kennedy jr as the secretary of health and human services. the signal that we've gotten from almost every republican on the panel is that they're a yes vote. if every republican votes yes and every democrat votes no, he will move on to the next stage. that is why everyone is keeping such a close eye on senator bill cassidy of louisiana. cassidy raised serious concerns about robert f kennedy jr. s past statements on vaccines during both hearings. kennedy went through two hearings, one with the finance committee, one with the health, education, labor and pensions committee, of which cassidy is the chairman. and cassidy did not feel very satisfied with the way that kenn

peter baker is the new york times chief white house correspondent. and elise jordan served in george w bush's white house and state department. both peter. and elise are msnbc political analyst. so, kelly, are you hearing anything from inside the white house that the president is rethinking any of this based on the reaction that's been coming in? >> not so far. he has already said today that, quote, everybody loves it, referring to his idea. i don't know who specifically he's referring to there when he calls it everybody. he did not want to go into greater detail and said he would likely talk about it more later today. we're also waiting on the white house press briefing with caroline leavitt. perhaps we'll have some more insight there. so often this president telegraphs ideas in advance, and the clues were present in what you just played in the oval office, which preceded the press conference, where then the president read his remarks that outlined this idea for the first time publicly, the u.s. takeover, owning it, clearing out and removing dangers,

we're back now with new york times chief white house correspondent peter baker and the atlantic editor in chief, jeffrey goldberg. welcome, both. so, peter, usaid, foreign, humanitarian and development aid is a small part of the budget. it's less than 1%. but the agency's impact on diplomacy is so much larger, exponentially larger if usaid is dismantled. and i've seen it all over the world. i've traveled with linda thomas-greenfield, with samantha power, with other people in previous administrations. is how hard is this going to be to rebuild and how is it being viewed overseas? >> well, i. >> mean, look. aid to foreign countries. >> is not. >> about altruism, or at least not. only about altruism. right? obviously, it has an interest for the united states government as well. that's been the bipartisan consensus among republicans and democrats for many, many years. obviously, there have been criticisms on the right that some of it is excessive. but as you rightly point out, is a tiny fraction of our federal budget. but it actually has a force multiplier because people around the world a

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also with us, peter baker. >> new york times chief white house correspondent and an nbc news politicallyst. so, yasmin. >> president trump is making statements about gaza. >> as the cease fire. >> negotiations are. >> trying to move. >> to. the next. >> phase, a very delicate. >> phase. >> yeah. >> incredibly delicate. >> while the prime. >> minister is. >> gifting president. >> trump with a. >> gold pager as. >> a. >> reference to those. >> surprise attacks. >> on hezbollah. >> fighters. >> you have to understand the. >> landscape here. in israel right now. >> jose. >> to really. >> see how fragile. >> this moment is for. >> this cease fire deal and even. >> getting to phase two. >> if you. >> look. >> at what's. >> happening in the west. >> bank, many feeling. >> as if. >> the war has. >> actually shifted to the. >> west bank. >> the continued explosions in jenin just. >> last weekend. 100 plus. >> residential buildings were. >> in fact exploded. people losing their homes, their belongings. 30,000 plus palestinians evacuated. from jenin camp. and then you talk about the. >> hostages,

fortunately, we have peter baker here who has been covering donald trump for some time, and peter ise president means. peter. >> joe. >> he means what he says. i don't know what you're talking about. just because his staff comes out and says he doesn't mean what he says. well, that's just another day. look, he has been talking about this. our reporting shows with some advisers for a few weeks. he's intrigued by the idea. obviously, he has the real estate magnates view of the world, you know, create a little las vegas there on gaza. why not? it had not, of course, been fully baked with the defense department or the state department or any other agency that would normally look at a proposal of such magnitude and scope. surprise, surprise. it had not, of course, been cleared even with the israelis. benjamin netanyahu was told just moments before that the president was going to throw this on out there. and you saw his sort of cheshire cat grin at that one. so, you know, look, he likes to stir the pot. and what you hear from his allies and supporters is, okay, well, who's got a better ide

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have peter baker. here who has been covering. >> donald trump. >> for some time. >> and peter is going. >> to tell us exactly what. >> the president means. >> peter. joe, he. >> means what he says. i don't. >> know. >> what. >> you're talking about. >> just because his. >> staff comes out and says he doesn't. >> mean what he says. >> well. >> that's just another day. look, he. >> has been talking. >> about this. our reporting shows. >> with some. >> advisers for a few weeks. he's intrigued by the idea. obviously. >> he. >> has the real estate magnate's view of the world. you know, create a little las vegas there on gaza. >> why not? >> it had not, of. >> course. >> been fully baked with the defense department. or the state. >> department or any. >> other agency that. >> would normally look at a. >> proposal of such magnitude. >> and scope. >> surprise, surprise. it had. >> not, of. >> course, been cleared even with the israelis. >> benjamin netanyahu was told just. >> moments before that. >> the preside

. >> let's talk usaid for a moment, because our friend peter baker wrote the following.al usaid annual spending to provide food, medicine, shelter, and other services to impoverished countries around the world. $38 billion total increase in elon musk's personal net worth since the november election $156 billion all of that made me remember back when elon musk. this had to be two years ago when he said he was willing to spend $6 billion to end world hunger. what happened there? >> i mean, tim hinted at this. twitter was a success as an influence play, and i think there is a way to see what elon musk is doing with the government. but as. >> he said, i will spend $6 billion and i will end world hunger. >> i mean, he he's on to the next thing. he's he's on to being. >> this kind of. >> it was no, it wasn't cut. he's he has given very little money to philanthropy and his i think in elon musk's mind, you know, sending elon musk to mars is a form of philanthropy is maybe the greatest form of philanthropy. it also happens to be a way that, you know, guarantees if he were able to

here's what the new york times peter baker writes, quote, soft power is out. hard power is in. since returning to the white house, president trump has demonstrated that he prefers to bludgeon, not bargain, his favorite blunt instrument not military force, but economic coercion like the tariffs he ordered on saturday. joining us now is former senior adviser to mike pence. mike to mike pence marc short. he also served as white house legislative affairs director under trump and now as the board chair at advancing american freedom. marc. good morning. wonderful to see you again. uh, broadly speaking, what we're seeing here in these two weeks from president trump this time around, it has been a series of broadsides across government, beginning with the pardons for everyone who was investigated for january 6th. is president trump doing what americans voted for? >> i think broadly, yes. i think for most americans, they looked at the border situation under the biden-harris administration is a total disaster and chaotic, and they see that that's where a lot of trump's focus has been. i

peter baker is here, chief white house correspondent for the new york times melanie zanona, senior congressional reporter for punchbowl news. former u.s. attorney joyce vance, who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor. she's also a law professor at the university of alabama. and hayes brown joins us, msnbc daily columnist and editor. okey dokey. let's start with federal employees, some 60,000. that sounds like a big number, but it is not. some are taking these buyouts. but now the program the buyout program is getting, i'm not going to say completely stopped, but at least held up in court. right. donald trump has announced lots of big changes, but day in and day out we are seeing them get roadblocked. >> we're seeing them get roadblocked for now. like your point about it being very early in the game is a good one, but i'm afraid it cuts both ways. like, yes, we're seeing. federal courts step up and say what you're doing. >> doesn't seem. >> like it's really on the money. i have a lot of questions. we're going to pause these things while we take a look and see if there's a case. but what i'm wor

meantime, let's bring in right now peter baker, msnbc political analyst, chief white house correspondent for the new york times and coauthor of the divider trump and the white house, 2017 to 2021. and here in studio, i'm glad to welcome katie fang, attorney and host of the katie phang show. you guys must have been tuning in because you were just in the other studio. so welcome my friend. peter. you first. how is the trump administration reacting to the outcry against shutting down usaid? >> well, i actually think that they're happy about this. you know, this is what they are looking to do. they want a reaction, in part to show their supporters that they're, you know, disrupting washington, their their, you know, changing the way that things work. and in a way, therefore, i think the outrage, the upset, the lawsuits, the chaos in some ways is part of the strategy from their point of view. it shows that they're doing what he promised to do during the election. never mind. he didn't really talk much about usaid on the campaign trail. the idea is he is taking on the corrupt deep state, as th

that's hollywood movies, blue jeans and yes, sesame street, all intended, as peter baker of the new york times describes, fuel america's popularity around the world and thus its influence. the united states could sometimes get what it wanted. the theory went because other countries aspired to be like the united states or be its friend. and history shows that it's often more effective long term. nye himself said, in the short term, hard power usually trumps soft power, but the long run effects might be the opposite. or, as a caller to my sirius xm radio program said yesterday, who would you rather teach iraqi kids? big bird or al qaeda? disease prevention helps us all. education that fights extremism. it brings me to today's poll question. it's bearcats. com can't wait to see how you'll vote on this. are you comfortable with your tax dollars funding usaid soft power initiatives such as sesame street in iraq? the controversy surrounding usaid is just one of a laundry list of things that have happened this week. joining me now to speak about them is democratic senator from delaware, chris s

. >> so peter baker, who has covered most of our recent modern presidents, uh, wrote about this and he frames it this way, not unlike how you put this. never mind. he can name no legal authority that would permit the united states to unilaterally assert control over someone else's territory, or that the forcible removal of an entire population would be a violation of international law. never mind that resettling 2 million palestinians would be a. gargantuan logistical and financial challenge, not to mention politically explosive. never mind that it would surely require many thousands of u.s. troops and possibly trigger more violent conflict. mr. trump's idea would be the most expansive commitment of american might and treasure in the middle east. since the invasion and reconstruction of iraq two decades ago, and it would be a jaw dropping reversal for a president who first ran for office in 2016. decrying nation building and vowing to extract the united states out of the middle east. i mean, this is one of the first things that jumped out to me. i mean, he ran against doing this, putti

. >> the new york times, i think, aptly, peter baker, characterizing. >> the president's. >> commentsoday. >> is him thinking. >> not as a president but as a real estate developer. >> because the thing he did mention. >> the only. >> thing where you thought, you know, if. >> you're asking. >> yourself, what's. >> the play here? what is he trying to get out of this? we were talking about this before the press. >> conference ended. >> there is a weird obsession in trump world with development and real estate development and the gaza strip. and he did mention several times, you know, we're going to develop it and. >> add thousands of. >> jobs. >> unlimited jobs. >> and housing. >> and i'm not saying that there's necessarily going to be trump hotel gaza, but. >> you can see that. >> that is part, at. least in the, you know, expression of donald trump's id that comes out in these lexicon. >> that he uses is it's a demolition site. that's a real estate development term. it's a it's the riviera of the middle east, that world people will live there. it's going to create thousands of jobs. you

you don't you don't, you know, you know, we don't know because this is an administration that, as peter baker it's acting in the interests of the president rather than in the interests of american national interests in the way it's been traditionally defined or has been defined for the last 50 years. people are readjusting the way they think about foreign policy. >> when we return. our friend, msnbc. >> host chris hayes, talks to us about his new book titled. >> the siren's. >> call how. >> attention became. >> the. >> world's most endangered resource. resource. >> that's next. watch your step! that's why visionworks makes it simple to schedule an eye exam that works for you. even if you have a big trip to plan around. thanks! i mean, i can see you right now if that's...convenient. visionworks. see the difference. >> clinically tested. >> my hair. >> is longer, thicker. >> is longer, thicker. >> nutrafo power outages can be unpredictable, inconvenient, and disruptive to your life, posing a real threat to your family's comfort and safety. when the power goes out, you have no lights, no refrige

baker says getting a dna profile is just the first step. he says san jose uses that information as they investigate, and then hopefully they can make an arrest. lamonica petersvu, fox two news. >> city leaders in san francisco are setting up a new outdoor triage center south of market in an attempt to combat the drug crisis in the area. this new center not open yet, but it will be set up just about a half block from there. it will serve as a one stop location with police, public health and other services to speed up city responses in the area. san francisco mayor daniel lurie has made addressing the conditions in this area this neighborhood a top priority in his campaign. some neighbors, though, say the conditions there have been deteriorating for a very long time. >> don't look at what's on paper. look at what just happened. what? you can see what we see. we see a person od'd on drugs. >> the mayor says he hopes the site will allow teams to adapt and quickly respond to evolving conditions on the city's streets, and that people will be able to get the help they need. a new portal is now available online, where residents can see how berkeley police use their

baker says getting the dna profile is just the first step, he says. san jose police uses that information as they investigate, and then hopefully they can make an arrest. lamonica peterstvu, fox two news. >> okay, we'll get to the weather. get a little stuff going on here. we had a beautiful day today. temperatures were mild and it was dry for the first time in a little while. it's going to go wet again with this next weather system that shows up tomorrow morning for the most part, and lingers throughout the day. it's a different kind of weather system. lower latitude, not as much rain associated with it. it will produce a winter storm warning, but snow levels should be just a little bit higher and that will start tomorrow morning. outside live. it's cold, temperatures are down. it's in the upper 30s, low 40s in the north bay because it's clear and cool. but once the clouds come in from this next rain, it will be warming up a little bit. and the thing with this next rain is it's nothing like the last rain. last rain was like, wow, right? noah's ark kind of a thing. big wind, big rain, big snow. at the higher elevations. this storm is going to be okay. yeah. it's raini

baker says getting a dna profile is just the first step. he says san jose uses that information as they investigate, and then hopefully they can make an arrest. lamonica petersu, fox two news. >> deadly gunfire in a part of the bay area that's usually pretty quiet. what happened overnight on the peninsula and the early stages of the investigation? >> president trump not turning away from his proposal to take over the gaza strip. up next, we're live with an expert in middle east politics. as israel prepares an exit plan and trump touts a, quote, s acular a man was shot to death. as ktvu james torres tells us, we're waiting to hear if there is a danger to the public. >> police officers say they found a body right in the middle of the roadway here. it's behind a whole foods market not far from downtown redwood city, and right in front of the doors of where people live. about two this morning, police in redwood city got the call about a body in the middle of the street, right outside people's homes. >> less than a, you know, 0.1 miles or something. >> this is along adams street behind the whole foods market near downtown. neighbors say it tends to be active, but