also, donald trump, after that phone call, said that he spoke with vladimir zelinski as well. and you said that they had a, a full conversation. the same type of feedback came from savanski as well. but frankly, with everything else that was said today in other places and with everything else that happened today, i don't really think that he would be in a good mood. the new chief of the pentagon went to to the nato headquarters in europe and says that washington doesn't see ukraine returning. so it's a borders offer 2014 as something realistic. and basically, that means crimea, we must start by recognizing that returning to ukraine's pre 2014 borders is an unrealistic objective, is chasing this. illusionary goal will only prolong the war and caused more suffering. this is quite an interesting statement. it's coming from the new chief of the pentagon because it really goes against everything that was said earlier by the previous, the us administrator, and which was completely against recognizing crimea as part of russia. and even now, still, the website of the state department

we begin with breaking news. vladimir zelinski has a nice piece prepared to meet with vladimir putin. but in time, the statement came on the sidelines of the munich security conference. a deal with this decision, so i will only be seeing one russian and that is putting the only i for you. i prepared a common plan with trumpet people to turn in the war. the only in this case room is under these conditions on those problem. there will be no other platforms with compromises in the joint. i mean, those are 2 contributor and former set of a to joe biden. tartar retire. wonderful to see you. thanks for taking the time. big old statement. say that, but i seem to remember him saying in fact, putting it into law that that's the only russian he will speak to is the one he no, i will. exactly. i mean he's going to break his own law. now there you have it. and not only that, but it's just, it's just, he's in a desperation mode, right? he's losing all his funding. he knows that trump is moving towards peace. he heard the speech by j. d. vance. he knows he can see the writing on the walls and his d

have the perfect deal maker at the table from a position of strength to deal with both vladimir putin and zelinski. no one's going to get everything that they want. understanding who committed the aggression in the 1st place or or dw corresponded terry sills, is that nato headquarters in brussels. she has more now on and the secretary exits message. i'm afraid, one of the headlines is going to be m n g a. make nato grid again, he really set it. of course that's, you know, um, uh, quite a trump in line. we should have seen it coming. and he says, this has to be done through of course, more european defense spending raising the level that had been at set at 2 percent as a target now up to 5 percent of that's really the emphasis of the trump administration . pizza. haig says, said he was sent here with 2 missions, one of them to uh, me put america 1st and the other one to achieve peace through strength. he says that that's what is happening when president trump calls president clinton. he says, bringing an end to the war and ukraine, as he says, stopping the killing is something only president trump

have the perfect deal maker at the table from a position of strength to deal with both vladimir putin and zelinski. no one's going to get everything that they want on. jim and john to the left shelter reacted to exit stipend, telling media that no deal can be made over the heads of ukrainians and the europeans via vincent, lima. we know that no one long piece mold in the ukrainian eyes, but at the same time, it's clear that a russian victory or a collapse of ukraine will not lead to pace just the opposite. thought okay, would in danger of pace and stability across your 5 be on you crime. and that's, that's a faithful. we have to work together without partners in our ongoing negotiations, confidently and engaged because they affect us directly or the game on the bottom. via oval, 3 europeans, ukraine's the strongest supporters. and we will remain so as long as necessary, even after a possible peace treaty knew nothing about ukraine without ukrainians and nothing about europe without your opinions. that's what counts deals with all of our friends in partners in europe. agree on this to put a clearly

have the perfect deal maker at the table from a position of strength to deal with both vladimir putin and zelinski. no one's going to get everything that they want. understanding who committed the aggression in the 1st place. or for more, i'm joined now by belinda. check it over. do you a political strategist and a geopolitical analyst in the end? it's good to have you. with this, we just heard the us secretary of defense pete hex, of saying that both ukraine and rush of will have to make concessions in a possible peace deal. does it make sense though, to speak of concessions before these talks of even the guy will absolutely know it's all vs because of the way it was presented. it's very much looks like us. russian negotiated ceasefire and ukraine is going to be for the europeans. are sidelines in this process. haig says, more in europe, that any future peace agreement between russia and ukraine bill needs to be guaranteed and supervised not by the united states, but by europe. is europe ready to do this? well, absolutely no. to hear what else? again, york is expected to secure a piece that has n

have the perfect deal maker at the table from a position of strength to deal with both vladimir putin and zelinski. no one's going to get everything that they want. understanding who committed the aggression in the 1st place or the german trans. oh luck, schoultz. he reacted to the statement made by the us defense. secretary schultz told reporters that no deal can be made over the heads of the your ukrainians and the europeans via vista. the month. we know that no one long piece more than that. you craning as for the slot at the same time, it's clear that a russian victory or a collapse of ukraine will not lead to pace just the opposite side of it. wouldn't change of pace and stability across your 5 be your new crime. and that's, that's a faithful. we have to work together without partners in our ongoing negotiations, confidently and engaged because they affect us directly being on the vehicle we, europeans, ukraine's the strongest supporters. and we will remain so as long as necessary, even after a possible peace treaty make nothing about ukraine without ukrainians, and nothing about europe witho

have the perfect deal maker at the table from a position of strength to deal with both vladimir putin and zelinski. no one's going to get everything that they want. understanding who committed the aggression in the 1st place. but i challenge anyone else to think of a world leader at this moment, who with credibility and strength could bring those 2 leaders to the table and forge a durable piece that ultimately serves the interest of ukraine, stops the killing. and the death which president has been, trump has been clear he wants to do. and hopefully, ultimately is guarantors guaranteed by.

have the perfect deal maker at the table from a position of strength to deal with both vladimir putin and zelinski. no one's going to get everything that they want. understanding who committed the aggression in the 1st place. but i challenge anyone else to think of a world leader at this moment, who with credibility and strength could bring those 2 leaders to the table and forge a durable piece that ultimately serves the interest of ukraine, stops the killing. and the death which president has been, trump has been clear he wants to do. and hopefully, ultimately as guarantors are guaranteed by strength of europeans, where they're prepared to back it up. why not invoke article 5 then for the nato peacekeeping forces that could potentially be deployed? like, how does that deter president put in? well, i would say, i wouldn't be clear about something as it pertains to nato membership, not being realistic outcome for negotiations. that's something that we stated as part of my remarks here, as part of the coordination with how we're executing these ongoing negotiations, which are led by president trump.

wants to end the war as quickly as possible that he needs to call president vladimir putin, which he has now done. he called zelinski right afterwards to give him the retail. he is indeed pushing for anna to or as quickly as possible. and as he said, as j events subs earlier today, that all the options are on the table, ukraine's president obama zalinski. it says that the us does not have a ready made plan for settling the war yet despite all the talk from various members of this trump administration this week. well, what's your reaction to that? well, i think that's exactly right that they are here. i didn't ask them initial to come over stations to try to get the russians to agree to be in some discussions and so with on european allies about what they are prepared to do. and to bring all that back to present drums. so you can make some decisions about where he wants to go. it was media that was reporting that there was a plan, but that was present special and where keith kellogg as well as the president himself and a clear, there's not a plan for say, it is an effort to get to go. she ation started to my, do we k

wants to end the war as quickly as possible that he needs to call president vladimir putin, which he has now done. he called zelinski right afterwards to give him the retail. he is indeed pushing for anna to or as quickly as possible. and as he said, as jane events subs earlier today, that all the options are on the table. you agree as president lives zalinski. it says that the us does not have a ready made plan for settling the war yet despite all the talk from various members of this trump administration this week. well, what's your reaction to that? well, i think that's exactly right that they are here. i didn't ask them initial, you'll come on the stations to try to get the russians to agree to be in some discussions and saw with on european allies about what they are prepared to do and to bring all that back to present drums. so you can make some decisions about where he wants to go. it was media that was reporting that there was a plan, but that was present special and where keith catalog as well as the president himself. and they clear there's not a plan per se. it is an effort to get that go. she ation start

was talked about in the conversation with vladimir in fortune and by these statements coming from the new chief of the pentagon, i wouldn't suspect mister zelinski to be in a very positive mood today. who would have thought though that diplomacy talking to one another might actually.

was talked about in the conversation with vladimir and fulton and why these statements coming from the new chief of the pentagon, i wouldn't suspect mister zelinski to be in a very positive mood today. who would have thought though, that diplomacy talking to one another might actually be working on progressive screens? you know, it really fascinates me not even only diploma seats, but be certain channels which make these prisoner exchange as possible. that was the one huge one. if you remember, i think in august, a huge prisoner exchange between moscow in washington and we've heard from so many experts was said that it's because of these not even diplomatic communication channels. but the way the security services between the 2 countries cooperating together and in space is again happening in the background sort of a presenter exchange. so it's, it's really interesting how these security services context apparently are actually bringing it. it's a bad chance to get the, the discount is under way by copying light. at this stage, we'll see what progress the problem if there's a lot of questions on the layout as well, or to correspond to gilbert pis