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, common sense, could reposition your party out of the wilderness and away from insanity.dging your question but when this happened the last time, when democrats were in the wilderness after john kerry lost, everything changed. nothing is frozen in politics. >> will: that's true. >> republicans had a trifecta two years later we elected nancy pelosi and flipped 32 seats, and then barack obama appeared out of the wilderness. i don't know who that person is, but it is a good chance we are not talking about them right now. >> will: i will just tell you and we can have a deeper conversation on this in the future, the difference between that old maxim which is true, no powers permanent washington, i do think donald trump has positioned us in a post-bipolar world. it is not left-right, not republican-democrat. he is reshaping the nature of public debate and that right now is why you were in the wilderness. we have to go, deeper discussion. thank you so much. >> you are welcome. >> will: it is time for will of the people. sharon says hey, will, i love the show but don't you dare t

wilderness. we have to go, deeper discussion. thank you so much. >> you are welcome. >> will: it is time for will of the people. sharon says hey, will, i love the show but don't you dare try to steal country music from tennessee. we are the country music capital, that was yesterday me suggesting it comes to taxis peered jane said please don't do this, you have been pleading for the united states to stay out of foreign policies, now you flip flop year political narrative overnight, bad look, will. no i haven't, james. i think you need to look at a unicorn in politics like donald trump and think have we learned nothing from t "the artf the deal"? and then finally robert says it is minnesota, not michigan. pete hegseth will not be happy peered the oly olympic hockey ts minnesota in the northeast. i stand corrected. now i give you "the five." ♪ ♪ >> jesse: hello, everybody. i'm jesse watters along with judge jeanine pirro, jessica tarlov, dana perino, and

[laughter] >> oh, deep in the wilderness.d of wilderness at this point, charlie -- are. rachel: walk in the woods with your chardonnay hillary wilderness. [laughter] >> ah, yes, that's better, rachel. touche. maybe it's me, but that kind of sounded like a threat. that sounds like a call to black lives matter p antifa, and it's reminiscent of maxine waters with that potentially dangerous rhetoric, immothering democrat supporters to get up in the faces of min who's a member of the trump administration, remember that during the first term in and it actually happened. just ask rand paul, for example, or cory booker or even joe biden saying they would physically attack donald trump if they had the chance x they did so on national television. there was a poll out this week, quinnipiac, i believe, that showed the democratic party has never been this unpopular in the history of their polling. just 311. think about that. /311%. less than one-third of americans approval of the -- approval of the concern approve of the democratic party.

may begin to pull back from wilder commitment, this is what is running through all the meetings.eting on monday and another one coming up midweek. the europeans are trying to think through how they can defend their continent if the u.s. is no longer there. the time when we don't really have the resources to do it. >> dr. neil melvin, the director of international security at is the royal uted services institute. thank you very much for sharing your insight on that story. just a reminder, before we leave you this half-hour, we have an update on pope francis's health. the vat can says he's developed pneumonia in both lungs and that his condition remains complex. he has been suffering from a respiratory infection for more than a week and was admitted to a hospital in rome on friday. we'll have more on that story throughout the evening on the "bbc news." do stay with us. narrator: funding for presentation of this program is provided by... bdo, accountants and advisors, funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation, the judy and peter blum kovler foundation, upholding freedom b

what they are trying to figure out now is how to get out of that wilderness. in some ways they have been cast out by voters. they have been thrown out of power in washington, d.c. and the internal debates going on within the party are what we need to focus on, what should our leadership look like, what should our message be and how we get that message across? who is it we need to be talking to. they lost the blue wall. they held the blue states in california and new york but lost the margins. it was pretty catastrophic for the party. host: let's hear from mark in cary, north carolina. line for independence. how are you doing -- caller: how are you doing? host: we are doing well. caller: i have a bunch of questions. you have people showing up of different government agencies, the treasury and so forth and they are looking at what i consider to be secret documents or information. why isn't the media pushing to see the receipts? the federal government has everything in writing and they say we are here for read-only. how do we know that? that is my main question.

so we kind of take turn then they make it out of the wilderness and our bank, among other people. we are not allowed to be there for the unloading. the oil fields are sealed off. there's not much in the village apart from container hotels for the oil workers and all that's needed for oil production via and ron, want to leave quickly it will be a while before that happens. the return journey takes a day and a half this time. after that, lea a has a day off and run already has his next trip lined up of the around $43000000.00 people worldwide up lines which poses huge challenges for everyday life. and what do you do if you've lost the ocean, but can only feel and hear it and don't see how about plunging it? but i mean for me sir, thing is everything. although it's, it's piece, it's freedom. it's sitting in the place in the water. i'm no different from other people, you know, whatever, but on land, everyone knows me as the blind girl, the girl with a dog. i'm the one with a disability, but not here. i see that the common lopez has the seat. she feels the ways that the athlete from od

there's been a new crash right there at wilder.as you come down the hill there and make that turn, a lot of people don't make that turn. and 24 is backed up from highway 13 heading out to walnut creek westbound 24 people are looking at it and traffic is going to be slow as you get to the area again. eastbound 24 at wilder is slow and you know you should you should give yourself extra time if you can. we'll take a look at that and some of the other things when we come back in just a little bit. but now at 801, let's get back to the headlines, sal. >> thank you. the ncaa has changed its policy, only allowing students to play sports in the gender they were assigned at birth. >> the policy change comes only one day after president trump signed an executive order threatening to withhold federal funding from schools. that allows transgender athletes to play in girls or women's sports. the department of education announced it's investigating multiple universities for potential title nine violations, including san jose state. the universit

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you say you, there's a whole by you the only so she comes on the i the in the wilderness of northern scandinavia, a semi activist fights for indigenous rights with a needle and thread after 4 decades of her historic struggle against the establishment, the nomadic, some of the people now face their greatest correct, the climate change the witness stages for soft me on al jazeera, getting close to the people most effective by those in powers of the same dress. but it's absolutely vital that the story is to be told we've pushed as far forward as we can to the front line. now, the smells upset. our a lot of the stories that we cover a variety complex. so it's very important that we make them as understandable as we can do as many people as possible no matter how much they know about a given chrisy. so issue as always, is there a correspondence? that's what we strive to do. the north and south korea to nations. technically still a tour as relations between the neighbors deteriorates some tiny south korean islands are in the firing line. 101 east meets the island. there's costs between $2.

they were they were wilder or they were, i should say wilder on the one hand, but also very legalistic on the other. the americans had a reputation for being for for for being readers and writers, for being lawyers and those those kinds of distinctions, i think, suggest that the experience of the american colonies was an evolution away from the direction the british politics were taking in the 18th century. in a way that matters a lot to what happened in that revolutionary moment. so there's no question the opening of the declaration speaks for americans in a way that in would have been very radical and was the way in which radicals spoke. but in america was the way in which a lot of people understood their own situation, including people who were not radical, including people who were very established society, not everybody. there were loyalists who had a lot of trouble with the way that was expressed. but it these were different societies. i think it's also worth underline, chris, you know, most of these founders that they had serious experience in legislatures. right. and in governi

they're completely lost in the wilderness.be, you would think that that a guy like bernie sanders or elizabeth warren would with like -- they claim to be anti-establishment themselves until rfk comes before them, and then they freak out and lose their minds if especially when r, the if k points out they get all this money from big pharma. but democrats are completely lost right now. they had their, they had their annual meeting in which they selected a new dnc chair, ken martin. what i thought was interesting about this is they went with ken martin over the strenuous objections of the leaders in tht they have left right now like chuck schumer and hakeem jeffries. they -- and out just underscores how completely lost -- rachel: what do we know about this guy? charlie: he's -- [laughter] another white guy, kind of interesting. after shoving dei down our throats and telling us we're all racist, it turns out that the answer is yet again another white guy, unimpressive white guy from minnesota who has absolutely no original ideas. h

. -- in the wilderness. >> that was more than one word. >> ok. i agree with the confused. >> rudderless. >> rudderless. who is most likely to be the democratic party nominee in 2028? chris, you go first. >> i'm sitting that one out. pleading the fifth. >> shapiro. >> i would agree with that. >> josh shapiro, governor of pennsylvania. >> i actually think the one that i see out there with the potential to grab the medal is the governor of kentucky. >> governor of kentucky, governor beshear, very popular in a republican state. that would be on paper somebody that would be appealing. no wes moores. >> yeah. governor of maryland. no, it was not mine. >> yeah, let me throw this. who is the leader of the democratic party right now? who is the face of the democratic party? >> mr. nobody. >> nobody. nobody has -- is it hakeem jeffries? no, nobody thinks there is a leader. that's a problem, right? but i guess we've seen this in the past. you think of examples, betsy, you think about 2005, when -- [captioning performed by the national captioning institute,

the life in ours is the in the wilderness of northern scandinavia, a semi activist fights for indigenous rights with a needle and thread. after 4 decades of her historic struggle against the establishment, the nomadic, some of the people now face their greatest correct. the climate change the witness stages for stopped me on al jazeera of the . ringback the global comments, one science based the other around an ancient wisdom, not for us to care. when we have this insight, we start to see things very differently, both seeking harmony with the planets by re aligned human values. precious. not so much of what needs to be done, but why are we doing and now is the time we cannot wait anymore. we have to do something about changing the system from woodson or thrice. we are nature on the jersey to the . ready ready celebrations in gauze and occupied westbank as 183 palestinian prisoners of freed from is rarely jails the carry johnston. this is all just here a lot from day also coming out a mass release is a 3 is really captive says part of a safe spot deal with this route. kindly move it to th

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i mean, look, the democratic party right now is very much in the wilderness. this is that time. now, look, they are so far in the wilderness right now that they need to figure out what the direction is going to be for them. so it might actually be good that they are so far out there. it will allow the democratic party, which remember, has been basically run by the clintons in that era. if you look at, you know, where we've been the last 20 years and certainly where we've been the last few years, it's going to allow younger people to perhaps go into the democratic party and maybe try to take it into a new direction. but they are certainly not unified, and they have no plan right now to stop donald trump. >> all right. mark preston, thank you so much for all of that. we do appreciate it. >> thanks, guys. >> and we'll be right back. >> our thoughts and prayers. >> are with those whose. >> lives were tragically taken. >> the dots all start to connect together. >> somebody did. >> this purposely. >> to these people. >> lockerbie. >> the bombing of pan am flight 103. >> sunday at. >>

the summit was attended by marine le pen from france's national rally, geert wilders from the netherlandsor freedom and italian deputy premier matteo salvini. among them was also hungarian prime minister viktor orban, who praised donald trump the trump tornado has changed the world in just a few weeks. an era has ended. yesterday we were the heretics. today, we are the mainstream. here, hundreds of people in the northern city of sheffield have taken part in a march today, to protest against knife crime in the uk and to remember 15—year—old harvey willgoose, who was stabbed to death at his school earlier this week. a boy who's also 15 has been charged with his murder. gerry jackson reports. sheffield, and one boy's name rings out across his home city... chanting: ..one - harvey willgoose, one harvey willgoose. .. five days after his death, this was the response of his community — notjust in tribute to him, but to take an anti—knife message onto the streets. he used to come down to my matches and he helped me through so much. he was such a lovely boy, and he really didn't deserve this at al

report a roadmap, short term, middle term, long term for democrats to come out of the political wildernessbut of course, the question that people are asking is, what about right now? donald trump and elon musk are not waiting for the soul search to end in your party. um, so the question is about your goal to reconnect with the voters you lost on low income voters, especially across the party? uh, all of the issues that, you know, that you identified as big issues. but before you get there to reelection, do you have a short term prescription for fighting back against donald trump right now? >> yeah. right now, the party has to help anyone who has standing to get these issues in front of the courts, because so many of these issues violate standing law and are, frankly, unconstitutional. what the president is doing here is he's like throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing what sticks. because behind all of this is the desire to have a vast expansion of presidential power and upset the balance of power. the republican congress is just saying, whatever you do, sir, whatever you do, sir, and t

seems like ever since charles has been packing for his potentially imminent trip into the political wilderness. these have some time to think about how maybe it's not such a great idea to treat the german military industrial complex, like it's standing on the street corner, shaking you 10 top with an eye patch bagging of brother would you please bear a dime for you? praying, especially when the average human citizen is being brow beaten by german and european, the leaves into sharing showers to save energy, for example, because they're told that it will help defeat puts in on the battlefield. i had suggested expanding military aid at some point, but if you do that, you also have to say where the money is coming from. i'm against us taking this from pensions. i'm against us doing this through cuts to local governments against us investing less money in railroads and roads. so you have to finance that. additionally, that's a quite the, a pay for any one that seems to have manifested during schultz is uh, tire track back massage, something the current front runner, murtz, cause he had to experien

charles, i'll start to try to get the what was the wilder lease monitor for the move due to a couple of biscuits that's perfect. the one for the shopping you. questions like other sion of thought to be like the best culture chrome you know, my live up unusual proceed of putting these capabilities the snell one because keep it will the craft some a little confusing just put them in their computer when you guys cut a lot them out, i can't, i mean, the way is to pretty my main question is good to go out to the green dot say you will start a new house on the display. schifflet's show me was putting in the schedule and i'll finish up. this will share the, sorry title of the legal trade in ukrainian arms, 8 so cheap math via sho, assassinations and abductions of those related to the business persisted for years in april 1999 bodies, my roost, h. c o of green mush. another of ukraine's is exporting state companies died in the congress in january 2004. so it gave by true end of one of the striking companies was killed in a car explosion in july 2007, a leg of convicted, but a legally trading

and i think they're in the, in the wilderness right now. even though they're kind of debating really last by 2 points to be really get wiped out or was it a close call? it was. and so there there's, there's internal struggle going on. there's also the, the work side of the democratic party, the progressive side, are they gonna become lambs and be quiet and let the with the, the, the conservative wing of the democrats from the show again, where the democrats have a better chance winning. and for years, all these things are this debate is still has to happen to the democratic party. they haven't really got there yet. but what kind of a responsibility to the democrats have to shoulder for the situation that the country is in right now? and this is robert cleared law stand today, or i think they have a responsibility not just to that own base, but also to every single, an american who belongs to marginalized group whose life and existence is now under direct attacks from this government. so i think that's why there's been a lot of discontent fr

all through the west, especially last-minute additions to national monuments, or wilderness areas, meaning pretty much hands off by people going in and being able to use those areas whether it's for recreation, hunting, or important things like timber management so we don't have such horrific fire zones that come from federal lands like that. and other important objectives like being able to find more energy in our vast national reserves. and the ability to continue with agriculture, new opportunities to store water for agriculture as we see pictured here, shasta dam in my district. we have an opportunity to add to that dam and bring another 600,000 acre-feet, which is desperately needed. we keep running into more and more environmental problems with the weaponization of nepa and again these last-minute rules done basically almost at the midnight hour at the last of the biden administration. the courts are finding that these are overstepping when the judge recently ruled the white house council on environmental quality overstepped its authority with its nepa regulations proving what we alr

uh, 5th, so provide a, a crucial, allied for victor, oregon, oregon was kind of a voice in the wilderness for a number of years. he was pretty much the only one that outlier in nato, in the u. on, on the issue of ukraine and mass migration. so when fits, so came along and won the election. that was a crucial ally for oregon. so obviously, the moment he budge, he became a target of us a id and all of the other, the myriad of government agencies of the united states, with the top of whose task is called the revolutions or why we have to leave me here. now, george, some we are the senior research fellow of the global policies to do. thank you so much for your insight. thank you very much. great. live it's 46 years citizens iranians over through the pro west and want to keep adding an address to the nation that the president insisted, no words or actions from the white house will ever force you ryan, to compromise the drum says we want tossed and then he announces all sorts of plots to bring this revolution to its needs. then he says, the us is for dialogue. we will never surrender in the fac

in the wilderness of northern scandinavia, a semi activist fights for indigenous rights, with a needle and thread. after 4 decades of her historic struggle against the establishment, the nomadic sony people now face the greatest correct climate change. the witness searches for stopped me on al jazeera, of hearing the facts. this is very systematic and deliberate destruction of causes we will to infrastructure as lift more than 2000000 pieces of ultra 0 is teams across the world. when you closer to the house of the story, the book about you want to go visit with me. so robin to remind me of all the top stories. little palestinians are leaving garza through the roof of border crossing with egypt to get medical treatment abroad. the world health organization and back you 8629 patients. along with 65 carrots, kind of decided that lived into plan to reinforce his folder with us as part of a deal opposing new terrace. so the fries will last for 30 days. fix could also see a 30 day reprieve from the terrace threatened by president trump up to bring send thousands of troops to his folder with

disposal. democrats, quite frankly, not only are they a group and complete disarray and in the wilderness, but they simply don't have the mag a phone to be able to reach an audience, let alone be able to shift public opinion or somehow be able to use donald trump's own a weaknesses against thompson, an effective matter. it's always good to get your thoughts on this every time. we appreciate it. thank you very much indeed. thank you. so ahead and i'll just say to germany's political parties hold the final campaign. route is a head of a general election on sunday. the have a lie. they will stop down under an altar, a basque of very hot and windy weather, effective south east of the country. we've got a weak cold front pulling its way across victoria into new south wales, affecting tasmania as well, cooling things down and bringing some welcome, wet weather because we have been dealing with an extreme fly, a danger risk here. high pressure is in charge because much of the country, so it is a launch the dry and settled picture as we start the new week with just some showers across the very no

he spent four years in the wilderness getting sharper. democrats will regret the rest of their lives the way they treated him. >> laura: thank you so much for joining us late in the show. that's it for us tonight. jesse is >> ♪ ♪ >> jesse: fox news alert trumpet wrapping up a joint news conference with the israeli prime minister throat floating the idea of the u.s. owning and operating the gaza strip we have more in that later in the show. and they are using the old good cop/bad cop routine in washington trump is good cop and musk is the bad cop. he's moving at a speed and scale shocking civil servants as a him and his team are working with a frantic around-the-clock energy with beds moved into the eisenhower building so they can sleep at the office. the elon nerd army is a bunch of 18-25-year-olds who rejected seven-figure salaries to work in d.c. young engineers and black back pats underpaid patriots hitting the federal bureaucracy with ai seeing what kind of waste, fraud, and abuse bozo has for decades they audited federal agencies and

over this violent incidents, ryan hoffman, the immunization, wilder slammed the head of multiple fedex was forwarded to him. sits on the ice. we started, the suspension is the longest for all noise comes up in the nfl since 2018 and us present. donald trump took a break from talking about tyrus to host these dominic up champions. the florida panthers were invited to the white house on monday for ceremony to celebrate their achievements. attempted to secure that 1st samuel back in june from this presented related focuses on they've hospitalized new jersey. that is always full. now pizza will have more lights on jemma. thank you very much for that, and that's it so me, elizabeth, put on them for the news out of stay with us. we're back with all the laces up. thanks. and just a couple of minutes. connecting communities adoption with never a benevolent effort. my family didn't need to be separated. my family needed to be supported. this isn't just about korea, this is a global industry opening up the conversation. would you say he's tall frances? are, do people have less stress because of

benchmark 10 year 451, chris wilder saying he is comfortable pausing at this point and continues to watch the dynamics around inflation. if inflation evolves as it did in 2024, there is scope to cut rates later this year. the pound in focus. 1.25, weaker by 0.2%, largely a dollar strength story will stop brent $75 per barrel, opec-plus considering pushing back output. gold 2900 per troy ounce. they have raised their forecast, goldman sachs comerford gold. and that is about moves into the safe haven. a lift for stocks in hong kong, hstech index a solid session, up 1.4 percent on expectations there may be support from xi jinping and beijing for the private sector after a meeting yesterday that included jack ma of alibaba. across the region, gains of zero point 1%. the nikkei up 0.4% and rba cuts for the first time in four years. 25 basis point cut coming through from the rba. u.s. and russian officials are meeting in saudi arabia today to discuss ways to end the war in ukraine. without any representatives from kyiv. the talks come after a phone call last week between presidents trump and pu

the and 27 is coming to a 100 miles launching a fire under the knee of 3 decades of electrical wilderness in new delhi. and part of the economic party supporters celebrating after $148.00 of the territories, saving the sites and the legislative assembly. a major boost for 5 minutes to an errand remotely after a disappointing national election in which his policy lost its majority in parliament. the pgp is certainly consolidated. it does if it covered from this slight set back, it suffered under 2024. joining broke somebody elections. the hosted on me policy has been cooled off and corruption allegations to which its lead to oven cage of all has spent time in jail. he's also being criticism over the condition of the capitals infrastructure. i'm going to go to those at uh, the good governance believe it's have to work properly. if senior leaders are in jail, then how can you work? that's why the moon river could not be cleaned up. the body has promised afresh stuff, and you deli. 2 the sound of good the people of delhi had been afflicted by rhodes with bottles, heaps of garbage, overflowing

coming down the hill near wilder road. right there.everal cars involved and injuries to. again, heading away from oakland. it's slowed throughout the whole tunnel. and when you get out, there is a crash at wilder road, which is the first exit on down the hill there, and you will see a big backup. also, westbound 24 is slow to some heavy rain reported there. triple a traffic cameras showing us the richmond bridge is a crash on the marin side of the bridge. you're going to see some slow traffic there as you try to get off the bridge, and you can see that people are taking it easy. there's a lot of flooding out there and not a lot of slow traffic, but people are going cautiously and slowly, which is a good idea. 531 let's go back to the desk. >> okay, sal. thank you. well, it is raining. raining in san francisco. let's check in now with james torres. he's in the mission district to tell us what it's like out there now. good morning james. >> good morning to you, dave. well, we can certainly confirm that roads are wet this morning. they ha

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there lost in the wilderness taking a wrecking ball to washington.orry, i keep saying the same thing everyday because they don't get it. do not why you lost november 5? tim walz says what could i have done to make the case? why didn't you talk about the price of food? maybe it was too much for border crossings, the crimes being committed or something when to be concerned about as americans. this guy says he's fatigued, it's pure hell. donald trump was indicted, he went to trial two or three times that i can recall. he was convicted. the guy was on the campaign trail. he has 20 years at least on all of them and fighting the good fight. they don't even know what health is. they can't compare to the determination and patriotism, the people in the right determined to get it right. >> the losing vp saying parties fatigued, not great medication strategy. >> when you look at walz, what you see? nothing. it is the democrat party, they need to find out what they are, who they are but what if it doesn't exist? wokeism the virus killed the host and that is why

. -- in the wilderness. >> that was more than one word. >> ok. i agree with the confused. >> rudderless. >> rudderless. who is most likely to be the democratic party nominee in 2028? chris, you go first. >> i'm sitting that one out. pleading the fifth. >> shapiro. >> i would agree with that. >> josh shapiro, governor of pennsylvania. >> i actually think the one that i see out there with the potential to grab the medal is the governor of kentucky. >> governor of kentucky, governor beshear, very popular in a republican state. that would be on paper somebody that would be appealing. no wes moores. >> yeah. governor of maryland. no, it was not mine. >> yeah, let me throw this. who is the leader of the democratic party right now? who is the face of the democratic party? >> mr. nobody. >> nobody. nobody has -- is it hakeem jeffries? no, nobody thinks there is a leader. that's a problem, right? but i guess we've seen this in the past. you think of examples, betsy, you think about 2005, when -- [captioning performed by the national captioning institute,

all this out and there was a voice in the wilderness saying i am just not going to stop it.these people were cultural revolutionaries. they want to do everything in the military to politics, economics, social at the culture life with talking without much confidence you could stop this new deal, great society progressive title wave. he was the only person talking about it. everybody thought he was crazy. i thought wow, let's give him a chance to try. mark: what is remarkable about it is, this is a man who comes out of certainly not obscurity. it comes out of business, tremendous developer in new york. built their skyline. the huge success like everything you touch turns to gold. then he decides to get into politics. and yet, that's not necessary the easiest bridge and get his perspective on what is been going on in this country, it's not that he needs to read the great ancient philosophers like you and i doing other things. it's just that he instinctively and he likes to say with common sense, he sees it and he knows it. when he first started running, victor, i called him a b

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