justin crump,... justin crump,... intelligence and security expert with 20 years' service with the british military, and now ceo and founder of private intelligence firm sibylline. i spoke to him earlier about the current tensions between the us and ukraine i think zelensky�*s stands helped rally europe at a i think zelensky�*s stands he divided y europe at a i think zelensky�*s stands he divided in europe at a i think zelensky�*s stands he divided in supportta be divided in support for ukraine. because a moral imperative was clear. we saw who the aggressor was in the conflict, it was russia. they lied to european leaders in the run—up to the invasion three years ago. zelensky took a stand and what seemed like a hopeless stand, i think that one pretty widespread admiration. and it was a genuine stance. they are fought under existential threat, and survived as far as it has with help from allies and i think the help ukraine got was out tough about vladimir putin. and then putin invaded ukraine and destroyed a significa

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