♪ >>> we are back with republican congressman mike turner.. >> what were you thinking when you saw that oval office meltdown? >> the first thing obviously is, we have to realize why this is important and really what was at stake here. this is important because ukraine is important. this is about the fight between auhoritarianism and freedom and democracy. this is the ronald reagan evil empire against democracy. as we were watching this fight, we have to be concerned about what's crumbling here, what needs to be put back together. that's what we felt in our stomachs and our anxiety as we watched what was at risk here. the second thing is, how inappropriate this was for zelenskyy. the context is, this was a signing agreement. zelenskyy had been negotiating with the united states on a minerals deal, an economic deal as the treasury secretary said. he had been doing so for weeks. i met with him with members of congress in munich. he told us some of the terms he wanted. he had a successful deal. the united states had conceded. he was flying here u

our last guest mike turner has been in ukraine a number of times as well.either the president nor the vice president have at all. j.d. vance, the vice president, said to zelenskyy, those are propaganda tours. is that what you did? did you go on propaganda tours? >> no. i went into patriot batteries and talked to the troops. every night they are defending themselves from missiles, trying to keep their population alive. i met with soldiers, some of which are amputees at this point. soldiers that just came from the frontlines to talk to me in person about what the situation on the ground is. i met with pilots there who were about to get their f-16s. we talked specifically about, how can you use this airplane in combat? i think j.d. vance, the vice president, it sounds like he is watching videos on the internet. to say to zelenskyy, you are not being thankful enough, i mean, zelenskyy thanks the american people all the time. i got to say, margaret, if we can end this -- i want this to end as much as anybody. but it has to end in a way that the russians are goin

joining us now is republican congressman mike turner of ohio. he sits on the armed services committee. congressman, thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> so let's dive right into it. not surprisingly, russia is dismissing this european emergency summit. it was a remarkable show of support for ukraine. how important was that gathering just two days after that oval office blowup? >> well, it's been it has been reported this was a planned gathering and the it certainly is important and it certainly is consistent with what donald trump has said and what the u.s. policy has been that the europeans need to pull together, show increased support and an increased contribution to ukraine and to the cause for ukraine. but i think what's also important here is that, um, you know, the europeans need to, you know, to counsel zelenskyy having just come off of this failed minerals and economics deal. you know, president zelenskyy showed up in the oval office for what was supposed to be a signing ceremony, um, for a minerals and economics deal. um,

caller: yesterday, the host asked mike turner, saying a report had come out that confirmed the defenseretary had ordered the united states cyber command to temporarily halt cyber operations and planning against russia. caller: he must have something on trump. why would trump be so defensive of our enemy? as far as the cutting, i'm amazed that very seldom that these tax cuts that republicans want, $4.5 trillion, are made it be permanent. they want to add 40 trillion dollars to the debt ceiling. maybe someone could explain it? thank you. host: this is donald in missouri, republican, good morning. caller: good morning, thanks for getting me in. i want to explain to everyone what is happening with zelenskyy , president trump, ukraine, russia. so many people in america think the united states has to have an enemy. they are stuck in the cold war mentality. there was something coined in 1962 called mutual assured destruction. it is so bad that if it starts then everyone is going to get hooked. there will be a nuclear war coming. we are in the very last days before christ comes back. president