of al qaeda child star. is that right? >> soufan: yeah. in a way, he was a poster kid for al qaeda.im in so many of their propaganda. and for members of al qaeda who were indoctrinated with these propaganda videos, he means a lot to them. >> williams: now believed to be about 28 years old, in january, he was classified by the u.s. as a "specially designated global terrorist," the same label once given to his father. since there are no known photos of hamza as an adult, we asked a forensic artist to create this age progression illustration to give us an idea of what hamza bin laden might look like today. does hamza resemble his father? >> soufan: we believe so. >> williams: does he also sound like him? >> soufan: well, interestingly enough, his recent message that came out, he delivered the speech as if it's his father delivering the speech, using sentences, terminology that was used by osama bin laden. >> williams: hamza bin laden has recorded four audio messages, all in the last two years. ali soufan believes the similarities with his famously charismatic father could help hamza un

al qaeda has sustained itself in the shadows.roups are getting more attention, they're getting bigger, and they're patient. >> williams: what is the fear when it comes to hamza? is it that he helps recruit and radicalize young men? >> miller: the base fear is: a, that as he does more recordings and more messages, that he gets better at it; and b, that he is... he is targeting a younger audience. and if you have a young figure with bin laden as that brand name who becomes an effective communicator, that's a bad thing. >> soufan: well, we killed osama bin laden, but his message lives. >> williams: his message lives, and now there's a new messenger? >> soufan: yeah. >> williams: his young, charismatic son? >> soufan: yeah. i think we're not done with the bin ladens yet. >> this cbs sports update is presented by the lincoln motor company. hello, everyone. i'm adam zuker in our new york studio. today in sports golden state erased a 25-point deficit to beat san antonio in game one of the western conference finals. steph curry with 40 p

the people who started al qaeda until 9/11.paring him to be the leader. >> reporter: you think they were consciously grooming him to be a future leader of al qaeda? >> i believe so, and also hamza himself, basically, told his father i am ready. i am forged of steel now. i'm ready to go. >> reporter: osama bin laden was killed before he could be reunited with his son, who ali suphan now believes is hiding somewhere in pakistan. unraveling the secret world of the bin ladens he says is crucial to stopping another attack like 9/11. someone who knows you told me that you actually feel a sense of responsibility for what happened. >> you know, in a way, it's hard not to. it's hard it won't be honest to say that, you know, i don't feel a sense of responsibility that this thing could have been stopped. >> reporter: no one in their right mind would hold you responsible for that. >> that's true. but you know what? we were involved in an investigation. we had all the information at our finger tips. >> reporter: you were so close. >> doesn'

same with al qaeda. they have chat rooms. the very first thing officials will be doing is going through that person's channels on their burner phone, on their computer, their ipad and trying to see if there is a history. now what's happened as far as isis attackers, recent and again, we don't know this is isis. it has not been claimed by any group. but they've become increase leg good at using burner phones and erasing their history. for example, in san bernardino, even though isis claimed that attack, to this date i don't believe that officials have been able to recover the electronics that that person, that that couple used in the lead-up to that attack. so that key link is missing. we saw, for instance during the paris attacks that they were using burner phones. abdelhamid who was the leader of the attack and died a couple of days later, his body was found next to a stack of unopened burner phones. >> wow. >> that's the trick. if depending on their sophistication, they would have taken steps to erase the history or else to

is al qaeda strong enough to make good on that threat?. >>> a chilling new threat and call for revenge from the son of osama bin laden. it comes as al qaeda is making a come back and growing more dangerous. our brian todd has been digging into all of this. brian, tell our viewers what you learned. >> wolf, we're getting new information tonight that al qaeda is back on the march, gathering new strength and getting itself in better position to bring in young jihadists that were flocking to them. they have come more of an inspirational face for terrorism. son of al qaeda's founder is believed to be in his mid to late 20s puts his voice to a video, departing from his father's play book and calling for lone wolf attacks on america and allies. >> if you are able to pick up a firearm, well and good, if not, the options are many. >> in the video issued by al qaeda's media arm, he he calls on attacks on america, nato and russia. >> does it appear now that hamza want to avenge his farther's dead? >> yes. and show a knew new face of al qaeda. >> the

al qaeda is the general message has been jihadi. not a terrorist group that doesn't align themselves with those. the name had been adopted by some but there are also people that talk about never would have believed his followers are in territory. he's talking about isis and isis is damp with out al qaeda. they are not part of al qaeda and they are the most powerful organization going. i think it makes some sense. i certainly am not more people -- i'm not sure what trump can do about that except put boots on the ground. what he said he wouldn't do. >> dana: that's always good. up next, there are some social media outrage about the comments of the miss usa contestant. we will tell you all about the controversy when "the five" return oh, hello! lucky for me, there's some great golf here in the carolinas. whether you golf or not, geico could help score you some great savings on car insurance. maybe even hundreds of dollars. whoa! (chuckles) hole in one! and that's a par five, mind you. see how much you could save on car insurance. go to

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of al qaeda. two groups have had a leadership split, a disagreement not just about who should be in charge and the rightful heir of bin laden, but also deep strategic issues. are we being too brutal to muslims when we should be keeping the muslim world's united. they are literally at war with each other. what used to be until 10 minutes ago known as al qaeda's affiliate in literally killed by the islamic state. it seems bizarre from that vantage point that these groups literally at war with each other with the same group, not that the seymore and the use of force against the perpetrators of 9/11 15 years later in syria. the obama administration senator didn't bring this up and is still the cleanup from the decision to invade iraq in 2003. the discomfort with the previous administration they have gotten out of the iraq war. susan rice said explicitly the government would no longer rely on that authority can clean up the books by rescinding it. they need to be relying on it but the available reservo

isis is an outgrowth of al qaeda. this is a very tumultuous environment with this terrorist ideology spawning old groups, new groups emerging. it's not far-fetched to think that you could see a fusion or an alliance of convenience between isis and al qaeda. we know from the document we did capture from al qaeda locations from afghanistan in 2011. they wanted to get their hands on nuclear weapons. so i think speaking about what would happen in afghanistan alone is a mistake, given the instability of the pakistani government these many years. kennedy: we are not going to keep committing those military mistakes over and over again. that seems incredibly foolish as well it appears if afghanistan does fall and slips away from the taliban that it could become a caliphate. when you talk about the levant and various parts of the middle east you are talking about pakistan and iran. in the wrong hands it could give rights to a new form of isis. as you said, that's a new form of al qaeda and what's coming down could be much, muc

that they are recognizing that isis grew out of al qaeda and iraq in 2004. they are really going off in their own direction and this makes more sense. could you put some more words around that? >> it seems to me to be careful aumf washat a new was not necessary at the time for military operations to be lawful is not to say it's merely desirable to have an aumf appeared to use the word earlier imperative. it is imperative not as legal necessity but a proper function of our government and a number of subsidiaries that there is that we discussed. another sense in which time passes, it may go from not just desirable or imperative in the sense i've described, but legally necessary but as the adversary evolves. at the time we addressed this issue, we were dealing with what had been called al qaeda in iraq , a terrorist organization that was a component of al qaeda but didn't tell the differences between the leadership that was operating in area and iraq. now we have isis manifestations of isis in libya, afghanistan. i don't know where boko haram is nowadays. both

however, al qaeda, don't count them out. al qaeda has had sophisticated operatives. they are trying again to reclaim the mantle of the yee had that isis has been dominant in over the last three, four years. al qaeda does have followers. we saw a recent call by one of the living sons of osama bin laden to conduct attacks in the west and to reclaim the manhattan to feel jihad. so i think intelligence agencies will be looking at al qaeda, at al qaeda's capabilities. and brian, it cannot escape our notice that this happens against the backdrop of an american president who is in the middle east tonight, talking with our most important counterterrorism partners about what? about isis, about al qaeda, about the threat of sunni extremism, and other forces of extremism in the region that are exporting their extremism and their capabilities in part to western europe and potentially to the united states. our president tonight is in the region. he is talking to the israelis. he just came from a summit in riyadh with our important counterterrorism there's. the saudis, the emirati

isis and al qaeda are not a muslim group. they are a muslim cult.here have been five other colts like them in islamic history. they are identical to the firstcult, who believed mass murdering women and children, killing any muslim who was not part of their group, was the way you spread yourself. these songs like you heard, where they were talking about going out and striking dead the enemy, and in between all of our operations, we pray to god, we are more devout. they emphasize using religious -- how can i put it? -- framing that is super, ultra orthodox muslim. to say anyone who has less than us is not a muslim, and if you want to be the best muslim, you have to be like us. they model themselves on the immediate friends of the -- they call themselves the companions of the prophet mohammed. it would be like a group in idaho dressing like the 12 apostles, only walking around like the 12 apostles and sandals but rating a national guard armory, killing anyone that dares call themselves a christian unless they are in that group. they are a cult, and the

brian: have you ever met somebody who is an al qaeda member? malcolm: yes.rian: have you talked to them? malcolm: yes. in iraq, it was easy to come upon members of al qaeda that had been rolled up. where i worked in the republican palace, i only worked with iraqis. i did not work mainly with u.s. forces, and you know, every once in a while, they would say come here, this guy is over here, before they were taken to interrogation. we had a safe house that was just south of a district near an area called palestine street, which was a hard, hard al qaeda in iraq and iraqi insurgent headquarters for downtown baghdad. palestine street, i remember rolling down there, and we had a soft vehicles, not armored vehicles. there was a burning u.s. bradley infantry fighting vehicle that had been destroyed that night. we had a police post right next door. one night, they said, here is one of your friends. i'm like, not my friend. this guy was what they called a knights of the assassins, and al qaeda group that went around at night and had silenced former regime pistols and

when did the problem of al qaeda and terrorism start? it started in 1979.ess what happened in 1979. the islamic revolution in iran. it is the islamic revolution in iran and the ideology of exporting revolution, the ideology of spreading a shiite sect throughout the region is what triggered a strong similar negative reaction from some fanatics who wanted to promote their own version of what islam really is. so the linkage between wahhabism and terrorism is tenuous, to say the least, and it probably would have taken 300 years to develop. that is something that is difficult to imagine. the mosques, we are proud of the program that we have undertaken to build madrasahs. they are schools. that's what they are. what we did was to try to play as many schools as possible. okay, so they focus on religious studies of the quran and so forth, but they are basically are they were in many places of the world the only alternative available to children who would otherwise have been left illiterate. now with the flood of education modern schools and so forth, they need has

al qaeda is using ammonium based stuff.size of this explosion, based on how small the bomb would have to be, would lead me towards a peroxide-base. >> is there specific rule for u.s. counter terrorist officials to play right now inside the u.k.? >> there's going to be. the people you're looking at are going to have communications with people all over the world. and there is a very robust counter terrorism group in the united states including the nsa who is monitoring everything going on from yemen to aleppo, and we can help fill in some of the gaps. >> and finally, lisa, as far as the messaging here killing women and children at a concert. >> their infudells. their nonbelievers. and that's what they're instructed to do. there's always some sort of follow-up. now, whether or not they'll claim responsibility, we'll have to wait. it's usually within a 24 hour period. and they're not, they will jump aboard to insight more attacks and piggyback on that message. one thing i wanted to point out here is that british authorities hav

i try to help our operators understand the enemies we face like al qaeda, like isis. now i am in a national security position inside the white house working on these loans that a strategic level. let me give you a brief overview of what we inherited on january 20 and what the president and tents to do. then we will leave some time for questions and answers. world today. the sad reality is that wherever you look, pick any compass point on the compass, any cardinal point, we inherited a world on fire whether you look to asia, whether you look to europe, whether you look to the middle east. the last administration created a vacuum, and it wasn't an accident. in the national security strategy, which is the highest unclassified expression of an administration's foreign policy plans, the obama administration actually opened that document with a letter from the president, stating that our policy now is strategic patience. strategic patience means america doesn't act. america sits back. and allows others to act. i'd like to ask you a question. if you look the world as it is t

the true creator of the pre-al qaeda and bin laden's boston spiritual guide. these individuals laid the groundwork and the stunning thing is, all the bad guys of significance have read their works. i we captured these documents in every that's at the, so there is a plan. the most dangerous thing to do is to say the enemy is crazy and they have no plan. wrong. the enemy has a strategy. and that is why they have been so effective. but one interesting thing was that isis put a special spin on their message. for 90 years the narrative was always the same. we are purifying islam. the west has declared war on us. whether it's through colonialism, free markets, through bludgeoned, what have you. yes, we're -- blue jeans, wi what have you. we must purify the word and we must re-establish the caliphate. that was a core message to all of these organizations. but i took that and added one crucial addendum. if you read the prophetic stricture of islam like any religion, islam has a story of end times. every religion, whether you're christian, jew, the religion has stories

or al qaeda or simple support a radicalized individual. this is difficult work, counterterrorism work, and the brits have done a really good job in recent years in part with u.s. help, but due to their own efforts largely. we may be seeing something that made it through those security protocols and efforts. >> i just want to note obviously that if indeed it first a suicide bomb, it's by definition terrorism, no matter the ideological component is. you are at some level engaged in terrorism. regardless of what we learn about the specific ideological motivations of the people that may have done that. >> absolutely right. >> law enforcement and intelligence officials are telling nbc news this is being treated at terrorism, the only question is who did it, not whether it's terrorism. with an will correct me if i'm wrong. but in terms of the three groups he was talking about, the uk intelligence services have a better handle on who travels through their borders than the other countries. it's more likely that we're talking about a problem of hom

isis, al qaeda says we are creating something for the glory of god. however, even that isn't the real difference but why? communists and anti- communists, what do they call communism? a godless religion, and it was. marxism is absurd on the face of it. you look at the concept of the dialectic and human are always addressing, it's just our bridge. you have to take on faith things that could never be proved scientifically so even there there is a similarity that's not really about reason, it's about blind loyalty to what the party says. there are similarities but in strategic control there is one big difference. great question. thank you so much. [applause] [applause] >> i want to thank you for speaking with us this morning and a small token of our appreciation, those of you may have seen this before, but it has the logo with a little red baseball hat on one side. some of you may know what the hat says, and county by county map of the 2016 electoral results on the back. thank you very much. >> if you don't mind i think i'll give it to the boss. thank yo

during that period of time, saudi arabia was struck by al qaeda. in a series of well-orchestrated, well-thought out and coordinated attacks on compounds, on westerners, on saudis across saudi arabia. we had a large bomb go off right next to the ministry of interior building and we had various westerners specifically targeted and killed. the most famous at the time was paul johnson who was a contractor for one of the large u.s. defense companies in saudi arabia who was kidnapped and beheaded on youtube. so this was -- this was a very difficult environment. the u.s. -- sorry, the saudi security forces were having running gun battles in the streets of riyadh with al qaeda insurgents and this was all topped off at the end of 2004 with an attack on the u.s. consulate in jed da. i'm sure everybody here knows about benghazi. the fact that four americans were killed in benghazi. not many people know that the u.s. consulate in saudi arabia was overrun by terrorists in december and nine people were killed. so, this left a permanent scar on the state departme

on his facebook page, he praises al-qaeda fighters in syria.d he would take part in present this mosque. he is there all the time when the prez are happening. here's a guy who announces. police now want to know if anyone else knew what salman abedi and his father believed. he was well—known in the mosque? abedi and his father believed. he was well-known in the mosque? oh, yeah. a good man? he is a good man. this man is close to the trustees at didsbury mosque. like many, he had no idea of the family's extremist links. we know he is connected to extremist fighters in libya, groups close to al-anda. extremist fighters in libya, groups close to al-qaeda. right. is that a problem, though? people like yourself, good people, don't know who they are with? the mosque trustees have to do more about that. leaders of communities have to sit together. tonight, didsbury mosque said salman abedi was a coward whose crime had no place in their religion, a man willing to kill and hurt in the city that was once his home. ed thomas, bbc news, south manchester. in

al qaeda never occupied a city.k of isis or daesh, it's al qaeda 2.0. >> their ability to connect with individuals in the united states -- >> more advanced. far more advanced use of the internet to microtarget individuals, coach them, bring them along and activate them. >> richard clark, i appreciate it. >>> it's heartbreaking to think about the families tonight whose kids never came home from that concert. more on those who lost their lives ahead. w...that not only made a a big first impression... ...but was designed to withstand sunlight this bright... ...this bright... ...or even this bright. if a paint could protect your door's color against the strongest uv rays... ...it makes you wonder... is it still paint? aura grand entrance from benjamin moore®. only available at independently owned paint and hardware stores. doctors recommend taking claritin every day distracting you? of your allergy season for continuous relief. claritin provides powerful, non-drowsy, 24-hour relief. for fewer interruptions from the amaz

soil carried out by al qaeda itself is a remarkable accomplishment as barack obama says. host: last call is caps on, mobile, alabama, democrat. i'm going to try to be as specific as i can, because i got a lot to say and invited try to get it in. please don't cut me off, it's hard to do this. i was raised in the 50's in the 60's and from that point, i guess we have parents that fought world war ii in world war i. maybe we understand about the russians a lot more than the children of today, or younger people of today. we were taught history, we were taught patriotism and we were taught civics and i was raised in the deep south, but we were taught to be patriots to her country first. this party stuff scares me. andmueller is a great man i'm concerned and so were many women -- we've been discussing where republican, independent and democratic women. we know how long these investigations take, we need congress to do their job. we all know with all this stuff, the russians come it is so obvious to me and we have made too many russian connections on one side of this country and

air strikes against al-qaeda positions specially those up in that northern province where al-qaeda tendsto dominate. as i looked at the proposal today on a map, it looks like that entire northern province would be a safe zone, so arguably this would interfere in our ability to go after al-qaeda. >> and i don't think we are going to let that happen, gregg, i think we will still continue to target isis and certainly those al-qaeda affiliates that exist within there, but to your point, it shows the complexity of this. you know, the very fact that you look at the three countries that have agreed to this deal and that is russia, turkey and iran, but you also have to look at didn't agree to this deal so far and that's the syrian government itself and the rebel opposition. so again, safe zones is something that people can say but we have a horrible history of actually making those work. greg: very hard to enforce. >> extremely hard to enforce and the idea that the iranian malicious would be a part of this, that would be the shiite fox guarding the hen house. greg: one wonders if this is going t

whether it's al qaeda or isis remains to be seen. i would remind you, though, that the fact that this took place outside of the venue, that's not necessarily because that was the target. the target could have easily been inside the venue. recall during the paris attacks that one of the suicide bombers in the ten-man attack ring detonated his explosive device outside and ended up not killing nearly as many people as he might have done had he been inside the venue. so we might be looking at a situation where as awful as the butcher's bill is on this attack, you know, something like 20 dead, 59 casualties, the death toll is probably going to rise given the nature of this kind of attack, it could have been actually a lot worse and, you know, manchester was the site or the perspective site of one of the largest al qaeda plots in europe. there was a pakistani guy who was actually extradited to the united states in 2009, i believe, raised in manchester, was looking to detonate a device much like this in a crowded marketplace there. could ha

it's not over and al qaeda is not dead. >> the reports of al qaeda's death are exaggerated.you look at six years after bin laden was killed it's easy to realize the bullets that took down the leader did not take down his ideology and the organization. the struggling affiliates at the time bin laden died are struggling no more. if you look at al qaeda and iraq, you look at isis. alone they had 20,000 members today. remember al qaeda on the eve of 9/11 in afghanistan had 400 members. they took advantage of the conflict happening in the country. they went up 4,000 to 500 members. they were able to bring all these different affiliates that are different ethnic and tribal groups and have them pdge allegiance to the local manager. if you look at southeast asia, they have been taking advantage of everybody focusing on the shiny object, isis and rebuilding the network. in indonesia alone, at the time of bali, the bombing, bali bomb. today they have 66 radical addresses. the network is expanding its influence, expanding its numbers and members and the capabilities and that's very sca

soil carried out by al qaeda itself is a remarkable accomplishment as barack obama says. host: last call. democrat, mobile, alabama. caller: i'm going to try to be as specific as i can, because i got a lot to say and invited try to get it in. please don't cut me off, it's hard to do this, you know? i was raised in the 1950's and from that point, i guess we have 1960's. parents that fought world war ii in world war i. and so, maybe we understand about the russians a lot more than the children of today, or younger people of today. we were taught history, we were taught patriotism, and we were taught civics, and i was raised in the deep south, but we were taught to be patriots to our country first. this party stuff is scaring me but mueller is a great man and , except i am concerned, and so are many men and women. we have been discussing. we are republican, independent and democratic women. , we know how long these investigations take to do the crime part of it. we need our congress to come up and do their job, because right now, as we all know, with all this stuff, and the

to send all al-qaeda's messages to al-qaeda and the islamic because most of the people over there arerganization. but also, it seems to me reading through the documents how bin laden's thinking was changing. especially after the arab spring. immediately after the arab spring, bin laden realized there was a historic moment for him to build the network of al-qaeda. by taking advantage of all of these vacuums that's happening in places like libya, in places like yemen how al-qaeda get involved with the geopolitical complex that's happening over there in order to find more recruits, more funding, more money, and more members. brian: how do you know all of this. tell us who you are and how you got involved in the war on treasure. you're muslim; right? >> yeah. i'm an fbi agent. and back in 1997, i wrote a memo to my leadership and the fbi that we have to pay attention to this guy osama bin laden who seems to be very dangerous. after the east africa embassy bombing, i was focusing mainly on osama bin laden. i worked on the east africa embassy bombings. i was in charge of the uss coal and i

but the bomb looked very much like al qaeda. if you think about the individual, he was recruited, he was british-born, probably recruited online. acting principally alone. that is a classic isis m.o. but the device he used was very powerful. al qaeda has been known for its sophisticated bombmaking capabilities. and this may trace back to other organizations. that's what investigators will look at in the next 24 to 48 hours. >> would that be unusual, for somebody to have allegiance to isis and al qaeda? we heard there's competition among these two groups. >> the organizations are definitely rivals. but, savannah, closer to the front lines, these groups mix and mingle. they interact. and different aspects of his network could have ties to both organizations. that's something we don't know yet. >> i want to ask you about the arrests that had just been made. one arrest of a brother of the suspected suicide bomber. they're still looking, apparently, for another brother. and then, three arrests made just overnight, our time. so, we're

al qaeda has been known for its sophisticated bomb making abilities. this device may trace back to somebody else. >> would it be unusual for an individual to have allegiances to al qaeda and isis. we've heard there's competition. >> the organizations are definitely rivals, but closer to the front lines, these groups mix and mingle and interact, and different aspects of his network could have ties to both organizations. that's something we don't know yet. >> i want to ask about the arrest that had just been made. we had one arrest made yesterday of a brother of the suspected suicide bomber. they are still looking, apparently, for another brother, and three arrests made overnight, our time. we're starting to see that this, perhaps, is a >> yeah. if you look at three aspects, the bomb, the bomber, and the network, these family member arrests are groik to be part of that network. who did he talk to in the community? who did he talk to online? who are his other ties. it's important to note his travel potentially to libya. if you go back and look in january

that is an al qaeda affiliate in libya. it really goes back to that period around the fall of the libyan dictator moammar khadafy. at that time the group splintered off with some members being loyal to al qaeda and others joining isis in libya. there's potentially another important tie to manchester. this memo shows that in 2014, a man also from manchester and accomplished bomb maker was designated a foreign terror fighter by the united states. here's the important piece of this. he was sent to libya in 2011 by the leader of al qaeda to build a fighting force. he is considered a key trainer and recruiter of individuals for plots. so a lot of this coming back to libya. it gives us the scope of just how broad and international the investigation has become, shannon. >> shannon: it's all going to be linked with intelligence sharing. thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. >> shannon: the terror attack bringing to the forefront the issue of travel restrictions from predominantly muslim countries. the parent of salman abedi were

al qaeda never occupied a city.s -- you think of i.c.e., or daesh as the arabs call them, it's kind of al qaeda 2.0. >> and their ability to connect with individuals in the united states -- >> far more advanced. >> is far more advanced. >> far more advanced. use of the internet to microtarget individuals, coach them, bring them along and then activate them. >> richard clarke, i appreciate it very much. thank you so much. >> thank you. >>> it is heartbreaking to think about the families tonight whose kids never came home from that concert. more on those who lost their lives ahead. i miss home. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ tango! for the guy who finds a way. always unstoppable. i am totally blind. i lost my sight in afghanistan. if you're totally blind, you may also be struggling with non-24. calling 844-844-2424. or visit my24info.com. radio: scorching heat today folks[ barks ]ol out there! walter! stop suffering with hot ac. cool it yourself with a/c pro. just connect the hose, squeeze the trigger and check the gauge. with 2 times the c

isis, al-qaeda, says we are creating something for the glory of god.whatever that is not even a real difference. why? a former communist and amazing anti commist, the hungarian official called communism a godless religion. marxism is absurd. you look at the dialectic and that it is always progressing. it is just garbage. you had a take on faith, things that could never be proved scientific. it is not really about loyalism. lots of similarities but strategic control is one difference. great question and thank you very much. [applause] [applause] >> i want to thank dr. gorka and as a small token our our >> a small token of appreciation, this has the logo with a red baseball hat on one side. some of you may know what the hat says and a county be county map of the 2016 electoral results on the back. >> if you don't mind, i think i will give that to the boss. thank you! [applause] >> two lawyerscu

intelligence official tells me that the bomber also had some ties to al qaeda.is a possible connection to isis, training abroad, some connections to al qaeda. and that is why they are looking so hard to try to round up people associated with him, to see if this was, in fact, a cell. a cell that could potentially be plotting more attacks. matt, back to you. >> richard, thank you very much. >>> in the meantime, president trump and pope francis set aside some of their differences for a friendly face-to-face meeting overnight. nbc chief white house correspondent hallie jackson joins us from the vatican. hallie, good morning to you. >> reporter: hi, matt. good morning. today, of course, a busy morning for the president and the pope, in that heavily scripted, highly symbolic first face-to-face. and we're getting some reaction from president trump on how it went. he said of the pope today, he is something. calling the meeting fantastic. the vatican is describing the meeting as cordial. and elaborated on what the two talked about, on issues like middle east peace and pe

as he ascends the ranks of al-qaeda ... and calls for new attacks.oming up: "what's the safe speed for driving with a person taped to your car?""200 miles per hour!" laughters"nah zero miles per hour"i'll explain in the next edition of people behaving badly.> and from stunts on the highway....to stunts on the bridge. how a pair of teen dare-devils scaled the golden gate bridge without anyone noticing. ((brittney tease))i'm kron 4 meteorologist brittney shipp. coming up, i will take a look at your 7 day forecast.details are right after the break. (steve) dangling hundreds of feet in the air above traffic. dare-devils pulls off a dangerous stunt...scaling the golden gate bridge. and no one noticed until they posted the video. the thrill seeking teens climbed the bridge sometime last month. but police only learned about it about two weeks ago.(pam) kron-4's philippe djegal shows us the stomach turning video... and tells us what bridge officials are doing ... to make sure it never happens again. (philippe) imagine driving along the golden gate bridge, lo

we went over there to wipe out al qaeda and yet you say al qaeda is stronger today in your book thanke the taliban, the two entities that we destroyed or we thought we destroyed in the aftermath of 9/11 mutated. they became a message, they became ideology. we're still fighting organization, but it's actually an ideology that we have to guy. if you look today at kauld with some of bin laden we had 400 pledged members of al qaeda on the eve of 9/11, today al qaeda in syria alone have 20,000. al qaeda in yemen went from less than 1,000 before the saudi war in yemen to more than 4,000 to 5,000 today. al qaeda in the arabian peninsula -- sorry islamic motherhood, because of libya they have been able to recreate a significant come back in the region. if you look at the j.i., for example, in southeast asia around the bali bombing they had 31 radicals where they take these five, six-year-old kids and brain wash them and they become terrorists later on. now they have 60 sects. so al qaeda has taken advantage, being very smart, taken advantage of this shiny on the that is isis and building its

plane thanks to a tip from the saudis about an al qaeda bombmaker. june 2009, iran's critical equipment misfires the result of a computer virus created by israel in partnership with the cia. april 2012, a saudi and british spy gives the cia plans for an al qaeda bomb designed to bring down a passenger plane. the fear now foreign intelligence services will not share top-secret plots like those with the u.s. because they do not trust the president of the united states to keep a secret. >> this reinforces a concern they've had for a long time but it takes it to another level, i think. >> reporter: today britain's prime minister deflecting questions but they say they are worried. >> it's not up to me what president trump says. >> reporter: the germans not happy the way the president treated their leader, angela merkel, now angry he is sharing intelligence with russia. >> it sends a very bad signal that president trump values our relationship with russia more than he values our relationship with our traditional allies. >> reporter: and when it comes to fi