intelligence services discussing his lives as an infiltrator within al qaeda. how does a base camp of a terror group like that operate when who decides who is in charge you watch. what is the chain of command what is to standard of the training are there former officers doing like marine type drills for everyone. well i mean if i tell you for example what a comp that belong to a car that looked like for example which operated in the mid one nine hundred ninety s. until it was bombed in one thousand nine hundred eight by the americans of the suffolk a woman's every day we would wake up for example in zero eight before dawn prayer as you know for the players of course and then there is the morning parade and then there is a military training. you know there would be military training with its weapons and warfare mountain warfare explosives and you know other. military tactics and then there would be the religious training the ideological training and then there would be the creation of activities you know sports hiking and even volleyball or football something ab

a mundane former al qaeda operative turned one of your case top intelligence assets within the terrorist group welcome to the show it's really great to have you with us today excited to even have to have you now you were described as a master bomb maker and w m d specialist but also a religious scholar what was your occupation with their guns ation exactly. well i mean when i joined the organization in one thousand and seven. i was more or less already attorney in mum and the idea basically i thought i wanted to you know give religious lessons and i was giving religious lessons to some of the recruits but also they noticed that they had been up to two and four month and chemistry and so that's why they assigned me to a small lab somewhere in the west of dell about in the gunnison which was working on explosives chemical weapons boys and some biological weapons and so that's why they sent me that basically but did you actually have to fight like take part in any field operations well when the time basically in afghanistan the fight was against the northern alliance which was composed of a

embassies in ninety eight asked events that made you reconsider your decision to join al qaeda but all kind of is pretty ninety eight attacks also included collateral damage why they just still decided to join it in nineteen ninety eight the attacks against the u.s. embassies and there will be in turns on you was a massive departure from what a car that was planning to do you see the first a thoughtful car there or a fire the affiliate was in riyadh a nine hundred ninety five against american military contractors and then of course there was the whole bar bombings although al qaida didn't do it but it was also targeting inside or maybe it was dog getting u.s. air force pilots so the dog us with a military in a sense and i thought when i joined the organization that the fight would be against the americans and the american military inside arabia that's what the law then was preaching to us at the time that the fight would be to expel the american forces out of the middle east altogether so when the attacks happened in africa it was a complete departure because it no we are killing first

it's not about al qaeda or isis. even if it were, our resolution, the one we're talking about today in the context of a veto override, that resolution explicitly states that it would not impede the military's ability to fight the terror groups. furthermore, there is evidence that our involvement in yemen might well have and probably has further destabilized the region, it's actually undermined the effort a against al qaeda's affiliates. 2016 state department report found the conflict between the saudi's led forces and the insurgence has actually helped al qaeda in the insula and isis yemen branch to deepen their inroads across much ofse the country. so no, involvement in yemen is far from being in the best interest of the u.s. not even by a shred. every day, it only becomes clearer and clearer that saudi not an ally that deserves our unwavering unquestioning support the militaryst event ordination. especially when our own security, the security of the american people is not on the line. ask october, there was the kil

it is not about al-qaeda. it is not about isis. and even if it were, our resolution, senate joint resolution seven, the one we are talking about today in the context of a veto override debate, that resolution explicitly states that it would not impede military stability to fight these terror groups. but for the more, there is evidence that our involvement in yemen might will have, in fact, probably have further destabilized the region, and that it has actually undermined the efforts against al-qaeda is the affiliates. 2016 state department report found that the conflict between the saudidi led forces and the houthi insurgents has actually helped al-qaeda in the arabian peninsula, also known as aqap, and isis yemen branch, to quote, deepen their inroads, deepen their inroads across much of the country, close quote. so no, involvement in yemen is far from being in the best interest of the nine states, madam president. not in the slightest. not even by a shred. and every day it only becomes clearer and clearer the saudi arabia is not

is it not about al qaeda or isys? and if it were senate jordan resolution the one we are talking about today with the veto override that it explicitly states but they have a furtheras destabilized region that is undermining the efforts against al qaeda affiliates. a 2016 state department report found the conflict between the forces has actually helped al qaeda and asis is the yemen branch. to deepen the inroads across much of the country. yemen that is in the best interest of the united states madam president. not in the slightest or even by a shred. to have our support especially when our own security of the american people on us soil is not on the line. of course, there was the killing of jamaal khashoggi. february a report came out suggested the united arab emirates actually transferred american-made weapons to al qaeda and other military groups it is a saudi led coalition is getting our old weapons in violation of her own and user agreements with them.y to get to the terrorist groups we try to fight those that pos

today the al qaeda trained mastermind behind the 2009 plot learned he will likely be a free man within days. sentenced in new york to time he's already served, avoiding a life sentence. it's a reward for his cooperation turning on his al qaeda backers and closest friend to work with counter terrorism agents, assistance the government said led to ischror against several others. our ron allen has details. >> reporter: tonight, an extraordinary move, najibullah zazi, the would be subway bomber set to be released from prison after almost a decade of cooperation with authorities. zazi met with the fbi more than 100 times after pleading guilty to a plot in 2010. when the young follower of al qaeda and two friends planned to detonate suicide bombs at rush hour in the new york city subway around the 9/11 anniversary. zazi who was arrested multiple life sentences with no chance for parole. in court today, zazi apologized. i'm sorry for the harm that i caused. i'm asking for forgiveness. the federal judge sentenced the now 33-year-old to time served, about ten years, saying to zazi, this one unt

the new book the management of savagery how america's national security state fueled the rise of al qaeda isis and donald trump also in washington we have james chatteris he's a former u.s. diplomat and former advisor to the u.s. senate republican leadership all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate where we're getting set up here i notice you have your book can you just lift it up and show our audience here it's fresh off the press. and it. must have savagery i must say it must be a good book because i've already heard that you've been deeply formed during talk about your book so it must be good ok so that's already. indication to me that my viewer should go out and buy the book here all right let's get serious here max i haven't read your book but i've read a lot of commentary about it and watch some interviews on you tube including the interview you did with another media person it seems to me looking at your title and following a lot of your writing over the last few years is that really at the core of american fo

we had destroyed al-qaeda in iraq, not just defeated it. but we were very, very helpful to the iraqi counterterrorism service their special operations, their intelligence to keep an eye on these remnts. because, again, you never totally eliminate it. i mean, the current situation is somewhat similar. there are tens of thousands, probably, of isis survivors that will now resortns togent activity and to terrorist activity, and we need to keep an eye on these, and we need to help our partners as we do that. this is a generational struggle. this is not a fight where u can take a hill, plant the flag, and go home to a victory parade. >> the trump administration, though, did declare that we've defeated isis. c here'sp of president trump. >> we just took over --pt you know, you earing it was 90%, 92% -- thcaliphate in syria. now it's 100% we just took over. 100% caliphate that means the area, the land,t we jve 100%. so that's good. we did that in a much o shorter peritime than it was supposed to be. >> what we have done is very significant, d but

history is actually protecting the base of the largest franchise of al qaeda since $911.00 which is live and this goes unmentioned when the u.s. makes these strange allegations about chemical attacks but the whole point of this allegation is to once again trip the red line and as a former obama adviser told harper's imposing the red line policy is an invitation for a false flag attack the same kind of false flag attack that we apparently witnessed last year in duma which in o.p.c. w. engineers report that was suppressed revealed i have to say that the press here is saying that it's a humanitarian catastrophe in it live as those islam is being attacked and as we know in the book it shows islam is being moved on from the war on libya the nato war in libya and also to syria but also arguably. this is the week of the anniversary of the magistrate draw city why why do you think it is that no one's mentioning u.k. intelligence links to the bomb or the area on the ground a constant my book details the whole history also of what took place to in libya under the grounds on the grounds of other re

fueled the rise of al qaeda rises and donald trump backs blumenthal max thanks so much for coming back or let's just begin with the new reports of syrian chemical attacks just as we had that leak go blue document suggesting there was a fake justification is a french american bombings of syria what my book the management of savagery details is the whole history of u.s. and u.k. collaboration with jihadist an extreme islamist elements using them as proxies from the afghan proxy war starting in 1979 to the present in syria and you know as i detail this history i show how an entire propaganda apparatus has been set up 1st to obscure the sordid history of these of this collaboration but also to stimulate western support for intervention for increased support for these proxy forces and direct intervention and you know this isn't surprising that the u.s. is now alleging that there might be another chemical attack because they trumpet ministration and this is this goes to the heart of another theme in the book which is the contradictions of the national security state the most islamophobia cou

this was almost a throwback to the al qaeda videos.er, very straight to camera monologue. >> what's interesting about this is here's the guy, he's alive and he's kicking. he's poking trump in the eye, saying, you said that we're defeated. we're not defeated. jessica is correct when she says he's trying to be powerful, but he went old school. he went old school. he used a video. he's a roly-poly middle aged guy speaking in a very old school way. for two reasons, in my view. first to tell governments, you're wrong. i'm here. i'm powerful. i'm the supreme extremist around the world. also to say to his adherence, look at me. i'm in charge of the gravitas here and to say to al qaeda and others, if you thought you were going to compete with us, you're wrong. >> jessica, what is the difference between al qaeda and isis? both were at various points considered kind of down. al qaeda had dwindled and withered. is isis in that same situation, whatever baghdadi may say? >> isis came out of a split in one of the branches of al qaeda. and what we se

that netanyahu the israeli government were facilitating medical treatment for militants linked to al qaeda the people responsible for 911 which happened in the town you're in right now israel is that a humane country it is true that israel has 3 people who have fled the fighting in syria. level care. we don't apologize for the very proud. we are on this topic of jump on the jews and i have to you have to forgive me examiner in the book i will will take a look at the book you mention she'll obey you were you were the mayor of that now you know of course that that place that you were mayor of used to have names to and was a car with a car you it were the mayor there were you in violation of a u.n. resolution because you were in an occupied settlement 1st of all there is. 27 years. busy in the occupied with it or there was there was she low belle reve 1300 years ago so the area builds rode it out recently. just in paris 50 years. those are not. build jews we did these where there's obviously i read there a while i think what i'm getting at is when you were made here we you've personally viola

, and even if it does it does not have the capability militarily to keep al qaeda out of afghanistan. we have to remember, half the world's terrorist organizations still exist there. i understand there's a lot of frustration, but i frankly don't believe we have a choice but to stay engaged and to lead. we need to there's a higher literacy rate. that's going to take a long time. meanwhile, we have to keep a shorter term, kinetic, direct action posture against al qaeda and isis and other actors in the region. look, eventually we have to drive to some type of political peace agreement, but we have to do it from a position of strength. if we have to fight our way back in, that would be far, far more expensive. >> people will cite the years of investments we have already made. >> i would cite back to them that we still have 50 thousands military members in japan, post-world war ii. we still have 30 mow military members in south korea. look at the investment there? germany, colombia, the philippines, so the united states is invested in countries around the world and taken a long-term approa

zazi traveled to pakistan in 200 and trained with al qaeda in weapons and explosives. when he returned to the u.s. he and two friends planned the attack. their mission, rush hour suicide bombings on the new york city subway on the anniversary of 9/11. zazi drove across the country and into new york, but later backed out after learning the fbi was on to his plan. he was arrested on september 12th, pleaded guilty and faced life in prison, but then prosecutors say his cooperation in america's fight against al qaeda was, quote, extraordinary revealing key details of the terror group's training, movements and recruitment methods. >> justice was definitely served in this instance. >> reporter: a federal judge told zazi this once unthinkable second chance has come your way and you earned it. lawyers on both sides say zazi is a changed man. >> mr. zazi, who i met a long time ago, almost ten years ago who was a young, young man has changed dramatically. the reality is that the light at the end of the tunnel is extremely bright for him. >> in a letter to the judge he apologized

has waged an effective battle against al qaeda in yemen, terrorism remains a grave threat. now, i could read you similar pronouncements from all sorts of other middle eastern experts. there is a hegemony of opinion that this war has been a disaster, not just from a humanitarian standpoint. i have selected a picture that frankly wouldn't induce sickness from my colleagues. i chose a picture in which this young, starving boy's back is turned to the camera, but there are plenty of others in which you would have a hard time holding down your lunch. it's not just the humanitarian nightmare. it is the strategic nightmare that is yemen. every single day that we stay involved in this war, the battle lines do not change, and yet iran and hezbollah get more and more involved inside the military fight. there is a political deal to be had here. if the united states chose to lead diplomatically instead of follow militarily, there is a political deal that can be had, but for reasons that i do not understand, the united states does not lead the diplomatic negotiations. we outsource that t

worked based on his time at al qaeda training camps, the people he met there.e exposed a plot to attack a u.s. military base in afghanistan, a shopping mall in manchester, england, and many other cases in which we don't know whether he testified or not. as a matter of fact, a letter to the judge from federal prosecutors has a number of sections simply blacked out, indicating other cases in which zazi gave important testimony. so the prosecutors say they're convinced he's no longer dangerous. he says he's a changed man. and the lead prosecutor in the case says he has no concerns about zazi's current mindset. so it's basically, they're saying he turned his life around. >> that's quite a big turn, though, clint watts, as a counterterror expert who has spent years and years of your career chasing down these terrorists, how do you feel about it? >> yeah, we're coming up on 20 years since 9/11. a lot of individuals who were arrested before they actually committed crimes, we've seen this in europe, one of the key things in getting them to work with the u.s. government

we have actually seen another american al qaeda recruit recently released from prison.ided very extensive cooperation, but this is a real redemption story. zazi was responsible for the most serious terrorist plot on u.s. soil since 9/11. he and his cell were going to target multiple new york city subway lines, suicide bombings on a scale of the 2005 london bombings. he went over to the tribal areas of pakistan where he met with senior members of al qaeda's external attack planning apparatus. he got hands-on bomb making training in the tribal areas of pakistan. so when he eventually started cooperating with authorities in the united states, he was literally able to draw them a map of the al qaeda terrorist organization as it existed then in the tribal areas of pakistan, an organization which at that point was still extremely dangerous to u.s. interests. so no doubt, this could have contributed to saving lives. this is a very sort of stunning redemption story when it comes to zazi. he does seem really genuinely contrite. he talks about how he was misled by distorted inter

interests and personnel if there were any threat from al qaeda or any attack from al qaeda and we've seen in recent weeks the u.s. secretary of state making the link between al qaeda and iran arguing that because allegedly iran has allowed al qaeda operatives to transit through iran that this is a connection this is a what many democrats on capitol hill including nancy pelosi the house speaker say is a weak link at best still there are some members of congress including republican lindsey graham that believe this is a threat and it's real and tweeted in the last 24 hours that in his view iran has attacked pipelines and ships and of other nations and created what he called a threat stream against the american interests in iran or rather in iraq if iranian threats against american personal interests are activated we must deliver an overwhelming military response all right kimberly how can lie 1st in washington thanks kimberly back now to the u.n. security council we think on libya in new york it has just started. let's go live now and listen in in accordance with the rules so to someon

if iran wants to not have conflict, it would be harboring al-qaeda leaders.ley: also with that interview with chris wallace, they talked about the fact that the united states just named iran's military a terrorist organization. what does that necessarily mean when you label something with terrorist organization, do we treat them differently, how big of a deal is that? >> as criminal penalty, so it does add increase pressure to them, but i don't think this apparent iranian plot in reaction to that, i think it's in reaction to sanctions that are targeting iranian oil industry, that's going to scare them, when you lose at least half of your budget for your entire government and your government is already poor and people are essentially revolting against you, they are going to start to panic a little bit. the iranian regime from there actually want because that -- carley: yeah, everything in the united states. rob: they have been crippled by the sanctions, let's move onto north korea, this is another foreign policy area that's been troubling for the administratio

europe allies spending billions infiltrating bombing fighting isis al qaeda in afghanistan in iraq in somalia or the middle east in africa yet in syria's al qaida is biggest stronghold taking their side if in directly demanding that the syrian government leave them alone taking seriously their claims and statements about chemical weapons as i say remarkable. specialist jennifer britain says the massacres should go on the offensive in a province. it's not going to be possible to to fight terrorism without going to the terrorist strongholds and that's absolutely necessary we're talking about a group h.t.s. which is an offshoot of al knows there are links to al-qaeda so this is a very serious terrorist organization and it's also a terrorist organization that's in a place with a very large civilian population most of these civilians have been displaced or internally displaced because of the war because of other terrorist organizations and so it's crucial that this area be targeted to to undermine these terrorists i think that the concern is whether chemical weapons have been used or wheth

s widely viewed as al-qaeda is winning in syria nusra front fielded hundreds of jihad for this offensive according to russian intelligence 30 pick up trucks equipped with various guns 7 tanks 4 a.p.c.'s to jihad move beals or vehicles packed with explosives and driven by suicide bombers as i said a huge offensive aimed at taking a government held town car for now. according to the russian command the syrians held out against 3 waves the jihad the stews in more than $100.00 fighters for tanks most of their pickup trucks and also reportedly launched missiles at the russian air base in may mean though those that got close were shot down un security council is none too pleased russia and the regimes decision to launch air strikes sends a terrible signal of disregard toward the u.n. political process russia has claimed this so called return it she strikes searching . i quote surgical in their precision i hope they do not need medical treatment in moscow if surgical accuracy means what we've seen. we refuse to consider terrorists as untouchable and will continue to fight them despite the objec

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appalled by what mbs is doing and they frankly understand also that the saudis are aligned with al qaeda, fighting our own troops in yemen. so the administration's total alliance with the saudis, where they've been willing to sell nuclear energy, they're basically goading the saudis into a war with iran and think that they're an ally of ours, is a policy that is opposed by

she wrote, the authorization for the use of military force that congress passed in 2001 against al qaeda does not authorize a war against iran. saber rattling and risking the lives of our men and women while eshewing diplomacy is not leadership. >> >> perhaps she didn't see the president standing there with the swiss president. that looks like dip loameracy. i hear what karen is saying about the national security adviser and the president self-acknowledges that frequently ambassador bolton is a little more hawkish than he is in his positions. and the president knows it and balances it out. i think talking to the swiss president, it clearly indicates this president wants to talk. he said i hope we'll not go to war. unfortunately, the same is not echoed back by the ayatollah saying it's poisonous to enter into talks with the americans. so it's somewhat troubling. but this president doesn't seem to be rushing headlong into any type of conflict whatsoever.

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the terrorist leader of al qaeda and mastermind behind the september 11th attacks. terror? us army special forces veteran jim hansen, thanks for coming to the show. we have been in afghanistan a long time since the fight scenes endless. >> i think the fight against the ideology that motivates usama bin laden is ongoing. we have had significant success, not just the rise of the caliphate which is one of the most significant accomplishments of the terrorists to have a state of the ground, the islamic state towards multiple years and donald trump unleashing the dogs of war, the us military to take that away from them. that is a significant up and down for them. now they have been dispersing back to their home countries and other places like libya where they are trying to jennifer did something. jillian: does that mean the us needs to fight differently? they were all together in one group where they were. it is a little trickier? >> it becomes much trickier. we will see two things. number one, a lot of the fighters from the islamic state went to libya and are fighting f

especially with the perception that isis is gone and al qaeda is gone.ne. >> they're not gone. they're reemerging. >> tell me about i want out. >> this is the campaign i'm pinning all my hopes on. working with a lot of young people, extremist networks and you know, thinking about terrorism or gang violence, and when you speak to them and get to know them, they say i want out. just give me a chance. i want out. understand me. people can change. we need to give them the opportunity to change. >> he is not deterred. he's going to stick with it. he told me repeatedly, i'm going to keep fighting. >> the day you start to look at these young people as if they're your own, that's when you step forward. i'm not going to let this go without the biggest fight of my life. >> one of the frustrating parts of the story he doesn't have the support he used to have, including the government. meaning the center may close. as you heard there, he's pressing on with his own campaign, including social media, which has been hugely influential. some of his previous campaigns cit

in isis day forces is israel now in the same side as saudi arabia isis day al-qaeda and how must a group which of course israel funded the creation of i think that there's never been any proof that israel has funded or helped isis with di asho out qaeda what enhanced all of we support netanyahu on the golan heights visiting the hospital in the occupied golan heights and they were treating al-qaeda and isis you know you what you saw him visit saying and say and treats it was it's syrian civilians caught up in this brutal civil war who is. i've seen israeli field hospitals treating syrian women and children. caught up in this brutal civil war. so that you know. it's conspiracy theories on steroids i mean it's you know it's only instead an experience bloom thank you after the break in response to your visions on gone test final on the b.b.c. hip hop artist and actress gnocchi performs his song long live palestine 3 featuring ken loach and frankie boyle all this coming up about 2 going on the ground. there's an international economic forum is a unique event in today's business world. over th

a mundane former al qaeda operative turned one of your case top intelligence assets within the terrorist group welcome to the show it's really great to have you with us today are excited to have you now you were described as a master bomb maker and w m d specialist but also a religious scholar what was your occupation with their guns ation exactly. well i mean when i joined the organization in one thousand and seven. i was more or less already attorney in mum and the idea basically i thought i wanted to you know give religious lessons and i was giving religious lessons to some of the recruits but also they noticed that they had been up to to inform us and chemistry and so that's why they assigned me to a small lab somewhere in the west of dell about in the gunnison which was working on explosives chemical weapons boys and some biological weapons and so that's why they sent me that basically but did you actually have to fight like take part in any field operations well when the time basically in afghanistan the fight was against the northern alliance which was composed of a michelle massa

which is an offshoot of al nasra linked to al qaeda so this is a very serious terrorist organization and it's also a terrorist organization that's in a place with a very large civilian population most of these civilians have been displaced are internally displaced because of the war because of other terrorist organizations and so it's crucial that this area be targeted to undermine these terrorists i think that the concern is whether chemical weapons have been used or whether there have been any said she is of chemical weapons because of the large civilian population that has also been terrorized by the strong hold that allen has or offshoot h.t.s. has on this area. the world's biggest election in india is drawing to an end with the incumbent prime minister narendra modi securing and of the the p.m.'s been celebrating his victory with supporters scindia house around 900000000 eligible voters over 600000000 cast ballots these made opponents rahul gandhi has conceded defeat and these are trying to look so why gandhi dubbed the candidate of the elite to make human rights. have a look at

is israel now on the same side as saudi arabia isis day al-qaeda and hamas a group which of course israel funded the creation of i think that there's never been any proof israel house sunday don't help i see dyaks show out what if we support netanyahu on the golan heights visiting the hospital in the occupied golan heights and they were treating al-qaeda and isis you know you what you saw him visit saying and say and i treat saying it was syrian civilians caught up in this brutal civil war it was the album store front was i've seen israeli field hospitals and treating syrian women and children being caught up in this brutal civil war and so it's always up so that you know. it's conspiracy theories on steroids i mean it's certainly you know it's only interested in helping civilians every bloom thank you after the break in response to tonight's israeli your visions on test final on the b.b.c. hip hop artist and activist of people forms his song long live palestine 3 featuring and loach and frank people and all the smoke coming up about to it going underground. now the financial times today

before 9/11, trained with al qaeda. he was captured during the u.s. invasion of afghanorteonige -ca just hours away from walking of an indiana prisonft w thiheh the right place? would be.y what i >> reporter: a headline grabbing case in the wake of 9/11. stunning images, john walker lindh, gaunt and filthy, captured from prison basement in afghanistan in 2001. seen here in this video taken by afghan intelligence, refusing to answer questions from cia officer mike spann. >> hey, look at me. do you know the people that you're here working with are terrorists? >> reporter: just an hour later, spann killed by militants during a prison uprising. lindh had converted to islam as a california teenager, left for the middle east, even met osama bin laden at an al qaeda training camp. he pleaded guilty to giving armed support to the taliban, but is now being released for good behavior, sparking outrage. mike spann's father urging president trump to intervene. >> don't turn him loose if there's reports out here that he's not being the model prisoner that y'all sa

flaj flajjy -- najibullah zazi said he a complete change of heart turning on al qaeda and his friends the government. prosecutors say that he, quote, provided critical intelligence and unique insight regarding al qaeda and the members and now the judge said he deserves a second chance. blem sheikh is an expert on deradicalization after being radicalized before abandoning that ideology. so nice to have you back. and let me get straight to it. the news that zazi is getting released and the judge cited his extraordinary cooperation, what do you make of this? >> this follows previous precedence where individuals of high value end up being prosecuted and incarcerated and decide, look, it is probably in my interest to keep assisting authorities which is exactly what mr. zazi had done over a hundred times i read that he had not just participated in trials but like you mentioned, giving unique insight on al qaeda. so this was a very -- a witness a lot of mileage available for the government in that regard. >> i want to come back to the mileage in a second. but when you imagine him, walking ou

also been hit according to the syrian army they are targeting the positions of militias close to al qaeda with the military says control the province. one hundred fifty thousand people have fled their homes since the start of the violence many are from other parts of syria. we have been praying for six months first the house next door to where we lived was bombed then we moved here now this house is also being destroyed. by the refugees and the no man's land at the turkish border hope it's safe to stay here but they have no roof over their heads electricity or food the united nations is warning of a looming catastrophe. kristen how bad is a journalist and author who has lived in syria and still has contacts that welcome kristen what are you hearing from it and actually what i've been hearing is. the stories of activists will still try to make some civil projects there for example there's even a director who started his the a to play about political prisoners who are telling us you know about continue telling about the emirates we have a woman who was saying that for several days they have