every decision we make is going to offend somebody in that area. >> to alan dershowitz's point the others would like nuclear energy and possibly nuclear weapons if you like. saudi arabia the country that beheads people for witchcraft and sorcery any deal iran has we want and maybe a little bit more. isn't i a little bit right here? >> professor dershowitz is right here. any other country in the region has to be the answer to this particular crisis. >> i agree. >> and any decision we make is going to offend somebody in that region. but that ought not allow us to abrogate our responsibility. >> managed to succeed in alienating every single country in the middle east. the palestinians don't like him the israelis don't like him the jordannians don't like him. >> and france is getting in there now. >> i think it's an age of disorder. we have to accept there's an age of disorder in the middle east, you have always had an authoritarian region, authoritarian regimes don't go well the idea you're going to flip a switch and it will be springtime in the arab world i think is a little bit naive. now

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. >> you know what alan dershowitz stands on this debate. >> whether that's right or wrong, there could be a whole other conversation -- >> is president obama hurting alliances by a potential deal with iran. >> king once said, it is either nonviolence co-existence or violent co-annihilation. i always come down on prodemocracy. who else do you make peace with other than your enemies? >> i agree. >> you got to talk with these people. >> i agree. >> you got find a way to solve this crisis. the middle east, richard hoos haas he calls, the error of disorder. in the middle east we are living in an era of disorder. every decision we make is going to offend somebody in that area. >> to alan dershowitz's point, the others would like nuclear energy and possibly nuclear weapons if you like. saudi arabia the country that beheads people for witchcraft and sorcery, any deal iran has we want and maybe a little bit more. isn't i a little bit right here? >> professor dershowitz is right here. any other country in the region has to be the answer to this particular crisis. >> i agree. >> and any decision

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>> osama, i want you to stay with us, if you can, because i bant to broaden the conversation alan dershowitz author of taking the stand, my life in the law, and tom fuentes. tom, what kind of security challenges does an event like this present for authorities over there in phoenix, arizona? >> wolf i think the challenge is the similar events not just held in arizona the one in texas and the ones overseas that we've seen last fall get attacked. somebody wants to put a silence to a cartoonist or anybody who supports the cartoonist and there have been people show up with guns and attack the venues in the past. and up to and including garland, texas. so i think that is the concern that the fbi and the state and local police have right now in arizona. >> it is obviously a very awkward situation. al and dershowitz you say this is a important legal test because the group claims they are exercising their first and second is a mendment rights the gun rights if you will. explain what you mean by that. >> well there is an enormous picture between drawing pictures and guns. they may be both protected un

editor in chief of muslim girl.net and a representative from the islamic center from texas and alan dershowitzk with us. so alan let's get this started right off the bat here. do you agree with this muhammad contest here -- cartoon contest, even if it's offensive, that it's protected under the constitution? >> it's not even a close question. it's comparable to faira con makes anti-jewish statements or some imams who make horrible statements about jews. if you ban geller you would have to ban much of the anti-jewish hate speech. hate speech is protected speech under the constitution. it isn't even a close case. >> the american freedom defense initiative they sponsored this event, and are described as a hate group by the southern poverty law center. their president is pamela geller. she spoke to my colleague. take a listen. >> the first amendment protects all speech not just ideas that we like but even core political speech ideas that we don't like because who would decide what's good and what's forbidden? the islamic state? the government? inoffensive speech, alison needs no protection but in a

it sounds like, as alan dershowitz said, this is using arrest as a crowd-control tool. >> you know, george and val, it's interesting. we already saw one of the lawyers for one of the police officers trying to pick apart the case in argument over the knife. was it a legal knife? was it an illegal knife? there are two competing investigation reports. it seems like there's a lot of area out there where they're just gonna try to nitpick little pieces. >> mm-hmm. >> i think she was in a really difficult position. and could she have waited longer? yes, she could have. but she had resolved what she was going to do, and waiting longer wasn't going to change her mind. and i think, you know, overcharging is routine in the prosecutorial world. i mean, it gives people the ability to negotiate pleas and do other things. and she was in a difficult -- she was in a difficult environment. nobody can question that. i think she asked for peace and said, "i'm gonna give you justice." and i think she moved quickly, and i think the facts themselves will bear itself out. everybody posted bond. everybody's out. n

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so do you agree with alan dershowitz? >> oh absolutely.to get the information because you never know the type of jury and in fact you never know really the facts for quite a while. >> but marilyn moseley did have the facts in front of her. she had her own investigation and the report from the police department in baltimore. maybe she has evidence that we don't know about and that's why she leveled the charges that she did. >> well i think it was -- what she did was improper. she should have waited before she got into the fray. >> do you actually lyly think that somebody like miss mosby, should she announce charges and charge these six police officers based on trying to quell crowd control? >> it sure bookslooks that way. but i think this whole thing about getting justice for everybody is not looking at the big problem which is how do you stop the black communities, for example, from causing problems. because one of the problems is they have the education possible. in l.a. we sued the school districts and the aclu was on my side there sayin

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mark, is this a show trial as alan dershowitz said today? is no way they will get a conviction here. i wouldn't say no way they are not going to get a conviction. look at the climate. need metal detectors to make sure people aren't bringing pitch forks into jury duty with the climate there. the thing that concerns me the most is they. the police department is not on trial. each individual defendant is and we have to find out what each person did or didn't do. the prosecutor the d.a. is coming under fire for saying too much today when she laid out her case did. she reveal too much? >> oh, i don't think so, megan. i think she had to lay out not only the charges against the officers but the basis for those charges. and if i might add megan. in second degree depraved murder in maryland it doesn't require intent. it requires the officer who act in conscious disregard and he did that. >> we will continue to follow that. thank you both. >> i don't know about that we'll be right back. don't go away. [meow mix jingle slowly and quietly plucks] right

alan dershowitz joins me.or being here. >> my pleasure, thank you. >> is that the takeaway that sometimes you can keep a secret from the whole journalism world for decades? >> but it's a very bad idea. it's a very bad idea to ever pay hush money because you're owned by the young man. let's distinguish also what kind of truth we know. i think we have a pretty good basis for knowing that he paid money and that he paid it in a structured way. what we don't know is whether he paid hush money to prevent a true story or a false story from coming out. people often pay hishush money to prevent a false allegation from coming out. false allegations can be as career ruining as true allegations, and we have no information as far as i know to corroborate the fact that he actually engaged in improper touching or whatever other sexual allegations there were. >> as an attorney do you hear media reports based on anonymous sources and approach them with a lot of skepticism? >> yes. i'm very skeptical because the media often fai

and i think she was like alan dershowitz said, she was more concerned about quelling the masses and calming down the angry mob than she was about doing this thing right so the right ending occurred. something happened to freddie gray but that doesn't necessarily mean and i don't know the facts of the case but that doesn't necessarily mean that the police officers had to do anything with it or that there was criminal intent for a charge of second-degree murder or manslaughter. >> i actually think the lack to have communication was a good thing, not a bad thing. remember in ferguson everyone was so concerned that a police investigation -- that a prosecutor's investigation of the police they were too close together. they were -- you're ordinarily teammates. look this was basically an adversarial process here where you had a prosecutor deciding whether the police officers should be charged. i think a certain amount of distance and a certain amount of the prosecutor clearly being in charge was a good thing. >> jeff you don't believe politics played a role the desire to bring calm to the city pla

said they're happy about the charges, but i would argue that geraldo is right, as an attorney alan dershowitzight as an attorney, many other attorneys i've spoken to, the prosecution overcharged, rushed to judgment and i don't think this is going to be -- i don't think you're going to get the rlt result you're looking for here. what's the reaction to what they're saying? >> well, i think you have to let the process work. i think our state's attorney marilyn mosby came out real strong. the mayor came out real strong in terms of the charges and, sure, just like anybody else who gets charged with a crime, they have to you know throw everything out there and, you know at the end of the day the jury or the judge decides and the lawyers decide what they're going to put in a motion for to get dismissed or this or that. you got to let the process work and i think, you know at this point, the family -- >> do you have any problem -- let me ask you this question. if in fact let's say this were in reverse and it was somebody else and, let's say it was a white prosecutor and a black individual being charg

alan dershowitz famed legal scholar, smarter guy in the law than i am he said that there was no substantiationarge here. he said this determination was made for mob control and when i listen to the news conference of ms. mostby i don't know what she has in the case here maybe she can prove this beyond a reasonable doubt, i highly doubt it she took this thing down a political rabbit hole she started using phrases like no justice, no peace, young people i hear your voices your time is now. inappropriate for a charging conference. she is supposed to tune that stuff out, not listen to any of that, read through the reports, sift through the evidence and became a determination based on the rule of law and something that's consistent with our system of justice here in the united states. she went down that political rabbit hole i had made the comment and i stand by it that these officers are nothing more than political prisoners. they were offered up as a human sacrifice to quell an angry mob. >> you have folks on your side agree with you, the police union that represents these officers saying there s

greater legal minds than mine, alan dershowitz said she overcharged this was political.y mob. that is why i said these officers are moving are nothing more than now political prisoners who have been offered up to appease the angry mob. as time goes on, i don't think this will fare real well for her. martha: she showed the pictures, three black officers, three white officers. the life of freddie's gray family changed forever that day. these families are going through quite a it about as they await to find out what happens next. thank you sheriff clarke. always good to have you with us. >> my pleasure. bill: breaking news on that shooting in texas. we're awaiting a live press conference out of garland texas. we'll show it to you when it begins. cartoons of mohammed apparently a motivation of the attack at the museum. we'll talk about free speech and debate. we await a lot of information we frankly do not have at the moment. that is coming up. martha: more than a dozen first-responders freeing a half naked man stuck in basketball hoop. you never know what you have to do whe

as it relates to baltimore, greater legal minds than mine including alan dershowitz said this case haste's attorney. he says that it was overcharged. and he said it was done for mob control. and i concur. look when she stood up there and had her news conference totally reasonable and totally legit to just name the charges, and the facts surrounding the case and why she brought the charges about. when she starts uttering statements like, no justice, no peace, young people your time is now, and she hears the voices, she politicized this thing. she went down that political rabbit hole that she should not have. she's emotionally attached. she's received campaign contributions from the attorney representing mr. gray's family. there's a conflict of interest here. she should have known better. she should have taken her time called in some experienced people. i hear she's never handled a murder case in her time as an assistant prosecutor. this thing just went from bad to worse. >> well sheriff, you know you're lined up against this prosecutor with what you're saying which is ironic seeing how