so the family was very per plexed, anderson. but all the other five siblings, as well as dotty, were prepared to testify to reput whatever matt had said. so we were prepared to handle it if it came forward. but on the other hand, if we could avoid it coming into play at all, we felt jerry's best chance was proceeding with the defense that we presented. >> i know it's been a long day for you. i appreciate you talking to us tonight. thank you. >> any time, anderson. >> the jury returned convictions in the cases of all ten, michael booney, the lawyer for victim number one joins us now. >> my whole world is shut down. >> the doctor called and he said your lymph nodes came back positive. >> i saw the look in her face. >> at first we shielded the kids from everything. we did lots of research. >> we knew gina had a complicated case. >>> welcome back. we continue our live, breaking coverage of the verdict in the jerry sandusky trial. 45 counts -- 45 guilty counts, three not guilty kounts. 25 of them are felony counts. 14 first-degree fe

is that the issue, anderson? talking about how this is peer reviewed and is so widely approved. if the guy who created this destroyed documents and had to resign to avoid prosecution, that's part of the story. >> i'm talking about the peer reviewed articles. that say shock is appropriate and necessary. the kids that you're forgetting about, anderson, you're not focusing on. >> i appreciate you being on and doctor as well. >> if i could establish, i'm not aware of any peer reviewed articles but so much again. >> the doctor needs to look more closely. >> send us all your peer reviewed articles. >> i'd be happy to do that. >>> up next, the latest on the deadly wildfire in colorado. if there was a pill to help protect your eye health as you age... would you take it? well, there is. [ male announcer ] it's called ocuvite. a vitamin totally dedicated to your eyes, from the eye-care experts at bausch + lomb. as you age, eyes can lose vital nutrients. ocuvite helps replenish key eye nutrients. [ male announcer ] ocuvite

is that the issue, anderson? talking about how this is peer reviewed and is so widely approved. if the guy who created this destroyed documents and had to resign to avoid prosecution, that's part of the story. >> i'm talking about the peer reviewed articles. that say shock is appropriate and necessary. the kids that you're forgetting about, anderson, you're not focusing on. >> i appreciate you being on and doctor as well. >> if i could establish, i'm not aware of any peer reviewed articles but so much again. >> the doctor needs to look more closely. >> send us all your peer reviewed articles. >> i'd be happy to do that. >>> up next, the latest on the deadly wildfire in colorado. our cloud is not soft and fluffy. our cloud is made of bedrock. concrete. and steel. our cloud is the smartest brains combating the latest security threats. it spans oceans, stretches continents. and is scalable as far as the mind can see. our cloud is the cloud other clouds look up to. welcome to the uppernet. >>> colorado's massive fire

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>> that's right on the money, anderson. think it's true in all cases but especially one like this. and mark is also 100% right, you want to arm the jurors that may be in your camp. there may be only two or three, but if they're strong and vocal and they're leaders in the pack, then what you've armed them with is enough to at the very least hang the jury and rise up in an acquittal. do i think it will happen in this case? i do not think it will happen in this case. but that's exactly the mentality, the strategy that you would follow. >> are you surprised at all, mark, how fast this trial went? i don't know why i expected it to go on longer. is that really based on just what kind of evidence they had both the defense and the prosecution? or does that say more about the judge? >> well, at the risk of -- i want to hide my face when i say this. it wasn't in california. this is a judge who decided he was going to keep a tight leash on this thing. and he -- >> mark, are you giving up practicing law now in california? >> yeah. i'm

is that the issue, anderson?king about how this is peer reviewed and is so widely approved. if the guy who created this destroyed documents and had to resign to avoid prosecution, that's part of the story. >> i'm talking about the peer reviewed articles. the kids that you're forgetting about, anderson, you're not focusing on. >> i appreciate you being on and doctor as well. >> if i could establish, i'm not aware of any peer reviewed articles but so much again. >> the doctor needs to look more closely. >> send us all your peer reviewed articles. >> i'd be happy to do that. >>> up next, the latest on the dead lie wily wildfire in color. [ male announcer ] it would be easy for u.s. olympian meb keflezighi to deposit checks at the nearest citibank branch. ♪ like this one. ♪ or this one. ♪ or, maybe this one. ♪ but when it's this easy to use citibank mobile check deposit at home...why would he? ♪ woooo! [ male announcer ] citibank mobile check deposit. easier banking. every step of the way. >>> colorado's massive fire

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is that the issue, anderson?king about how this is peer reviewed and is so widely approved. if the guy who created this destroyed documents and had to resign to avoid prosecution, that's part of the story. >> i'm talking about the peer reviewed articles. the kids that you're forgetting about, anderson, you're not focusing on. >> i appreciate you being on and doctor as well. >> if i could establish, i'm not aware of any peer reviewed articles but so much again. >> the doctor needs to look more closely. >> send us all your peer reviewed articles. >> i'd be happy to do that. >>> up next, the latest on the dead lie wily wildfire in color. >>> colorado's massive fire now covered 68 square miles. the fire's claimed its first victim. a 62-year-old woman whose body was found inside her burned home. officials hoped to send 30 field crews in tomorrow. it's so big, you can see the smoke from denver 60 miles away. evacuated pets are being housed at the county humane society. some people are refusing to evacuate. want to go t

>> anderson, doctors tell us that it is possible.nda died, the fda issued a safety notification. but those notifications aren't ongoing. there's nothing specific on the label. doctors could miss that one sentence in the instructions. so doctors hope the transplant surgeons have gotten the message, but it's possible they haven't. >> wow. elizabeth, thanks very much. we'll keep on it. weather across the country, extreme heat in the east to flash floods in minnesota. the latest on all of it when we continue. presenting androgel 1.62%. both are used to treat men with low testosterone. androgel 1.62% is from the makers of the number one prescribed testosterone replacement therapy. it raises your testosterone levels, and... is concentrated, so you could use less gel. and with androgel 1.62%, you can save on your monthly prescription. [ male announcer ] dosing and application sites between these products differ. women and children should avoid contact with application sites. discontinue androgel and call your doctor if you see unexpected si

but anderson, are we here to talk about the treatment? is that the issue, anderson?hat's what i'm here to talk about. >> you're talking about how this is peer reviewed. >> i'm talking about the kids that need the help. >> if the guy who created this destroyed documents and had to resign to avoid prosecution, that's part of the story. >> i'm talking about the peer reviewed articles that say shock is appropriate and necessary. i'm here to talk about the kids you're forgetting about, anderson, and you're not focusing on. >> i appreciate you being on. doctor, as well. dr. kraus -- >> if i could establish, i'm not aware of any peer reviewed articles. >> the doctor needs to look more closely. >> send us all your peer reviewed articles. we'll review them. >> i'd be happy to do that. >>> up next t, the latest on th deadly wildfire in colorado. . to give it a sense of direction, at&t created a mobile asset solution to protect and track everything. so every piece of equipment knows where it is, how it's doing or where it goes next. ♪ this is the bell on the cat. [ male announc

don't hear anything. >> joe, it's anderson cooper. can you hear me? >> i can, anderson.ow are you? >> i'm good. to jason's question, did jerry sandusky say anything to you after the verdict was read? >> no, he really didn't. he looked at me and obviously he was distraught and disappointed but he didn't say anything verbally. >> what happens to him now? we saw him being led out in handcuffs, put in a police car, he goes off to i guess a jail. we're told that sentencing will be any time within 90 days. what do you do tomorrow? what is the next process? >> well, tomorrow i gather my wits and we start thinking about sentencing because that's the next step and start planning our appeal issues. we'll have to get a transcript of the trial and then we'll decide how we're going to proceed after sentencing. the sentencing probably will take place in september. you said and i talked to one of your co-counsels that there were a number of issues on appeal that you may have some sort of a case for. but no matter what you used to appeal, i mean, do you really believe you have enough th

anderson, the voters were evenly divided. restricting collective bargaining rights and other actions against the unions that they found to be punitive. you had an evenly divided electorate. then you add in concerns about the recall. what is interesting to me, i think a troubling lesson for democrats, is that a fair amount, about 1/3 of union households supported governor walker. if this was about union rights at the beginning, the union workers decided to support him. was the money well the spent? is there a better way to spend it. if you look at alex's point, there are important lessons and warning signs for democrats. >> alex, they're saying the democratic ground game was good. they were overspent. do you think it was good? >> i think it was good but this was a test of president obama's philosophy for the coming november election. president obama's lost the middle. he doesn't think he can get it back. the democratic brand under president obama has become spending. >> wait a minute. a lot of folks who voted even for walker a

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>> well, it's a good question, anderson.an tell you this, a source close to the case that i spoke to late yesterday afternoon and late last night tells me the, the idea of testifying or not testifying was still very much in play, still under discussion up until late last night. i'm also told that the final decision came down to two people -- joe amendola and jerry sandusky. you have to wonder if this whole idea of risk came into the equation. remember, sandusky gave two interviews to the media in the past. those interviews did not go well. and you have to wonder if attorneys were telling him or wondering what kind of risk would present itself if he were to take the stand under cross-examination. >> given that interview with costas, who knows what he would have said on the stand. it would have been incredible to listen to. what's next in terms of closing arguments tomorrow? >> i think what we can expect is look for each side to revisit some of the point that they have been bringing up during the trial. for the prosecution, th

anderson? >> thanks very much. isha is here with the 360 bulletin. >> word tonight that about 300 united nations monitors will stay in syria for now. that's in spite of stopping their work due to the violence there. an opposition group says at least 31 people were killed today. >>> a texas grand jury refused to indict a father who killed a man he allegedly found sexually abusing his young daughter. the incident happened earlier this month in the smalltown of shyna. >>> the southern baptist convention elected its first black president. he'll preside over the 16 million organization. >>> triple crown winner secretariat has set another record. the fastest time ever for the preakness stakes. yes. 39 years later. after viewing the video of the 1973 race, the maryland racing commission unanimously agreed that evidence shows secretariat's preakness time was faster than originally recorded. the new official time is 1 minute, 53 seconds. two seconds quicker than originally recorded. anderson? >> isha, thanks. >>> jerry sand

>> well, anderson, the fda has been very closed mouthed about this. they said the same thing you heard from the justice department. this is an ongoing investigation. they said they're not standing by letting horrible things happen but they just can't talk about this case. they told us at one point that they would consider coming on to talk to us on camera about at least the general principles involved here. we even went up to their campus on the north side of d.c. to see if they wanted to come out and talk. we exchanged notes with them and everything else, but ultimately they backed off from that. they simply will not come on and talk about the general principles about whether or not this is good or bad even though they admit they are the ones who have to approve these devices. >> what reason do they give for not giving an interview? >> just that notion that it has to be a private matter. this is something that's ongoing. they sort of give a little bit of a wink and a nod to the notion of we are definitely on this, we are definitely moving forward. we

don't hear anything. >> joe, it's anderson cooper. can you hear me? >> i can, anderson. you? >> i'm good. to jason's question, did jerry sandusky say anything to you after the verdict was read? >> no, he really didn't. he looked at me and obviously he was distraught and disappointed but he didn't say anything verbally. >> what happens to him now? we saw him being led out in handcuffs, put in a police car, he goes off to i guess a jail. we're told that sentencing will be any time within 90 days. what do you do tomorrow? what is the next process? >> well, tomorrow i gather my wits and we start thinking about sentencing because that's the next step and start planning our appeal issues. we'll have to get a transcript of the trial and then we'll decide how we're going to proceed after sentencing. the sentencing probably will take place in september. you said and i talked to one of your co-counsels that there were a number of issues on appeal that you may have some sort of a case for. but no matter what you used to appeal, i mean, do you really believe you have enough that cou

their statement, anderson, is also very calculated. when the syrians say this was a low flying and very fast aircraft, what they're telling you -- they're trying to defend themselves against what if this had been a civilian aircraft? of course, a civilian aircraft wouldn't have been that low, wouldn't have been traveling that fast. so even their words and their statement are very calculated. their defense is they want to be clear, but i think it is true to say, we have to assume they were sending a message not only to turkey but to the alliance. we know of course turkey has, earlier this spring, threatened to go to nato and invoke article five. incursion against one required the action of all. and so i think this was, in fact, a very calculated move on the fact of al assad of syria. >> ivan, the turks have not confirmed the plane was shot down till after midnight. they didn't confirm it till after midnight. are they trying to bury the story? clearly, it puts them in an awkward situation. >> well, that's the impression i'm getting. the

so that was really the point of the experiment. >> reporter: by month three, the andersons had founddry cleaner, and a black-owned grocery store and a black-owned gas station-- 40 miles away. all were located in largely african american neighborhoods. >> we found a cool way to get gas. we would send that gas station our money, and the gas station owner would send us a gift card, and he was part of the b.p. franchise. so we got gas, food, and a dry cleaner. everything else, we were just desperate and hopeful that something would pop up. and in the third month, we got a general merchandise outlet. and in the fourth month, we finally found a place to buy clothes and shoes for our daughters. >> reporter: in the meantime, they kept finding establishments like jay's fresh meats. >> we thought it would be like kind of a small grocer where we can buy fresh meats and produce. there was nothing fresh in there. it was just canned goods, some frozen burritos, frozen pizza, you know, a couple of house wares. so that was the first thing, like, wow, this place is terrible, and the people who live i

and i have got to tell you, anderson. i do think that it's significant, the judge revoking his bond and saying that he had been dishonest and misled the court. should this case have a stand your ground hearing that's a hearing in front of the judge. so it will be the judge's determination as to whether or not george zimmerman is going to immunity from prosecution. and so i think that it is very significant that now this judge has been placed in a position that he believes that george zimmerman can be dishonest. if this case is about self-defense, the only version of events that leads one to believe self-defense is george zimmerman. so credibility is everything. >> exactly. >> if this gets to a jury trial, mark, this could be brought in? this would be brought in? >> well, i think sunny brings up a brilliant point. i apologize for having to agree with her. >> thank you, mark. >> but -- i know. it's friday. you know, i'm looking forward to the weekend, sunny. the problem here is is it became a lot more likely now that there

>> yeah, tweet my @ louie anderson.ometimes i'll say i'm at whole foods and people will go, so what. well, i'm hungry. >> i love when people say i just saw don lemon in whole foods. i'm like, why didn't you say hello? >> i used to tweet where i was eating and people wanted to join me. there's a time limit. >> here at cnn, the execs and security said, why are you telling people where you're eating. i said, i don't do that until after i'm gone. i'm done by the time you get it. hold on, we're going to have more about that. i'm going to talk about the news we heard tonight on this show. >> would love to. >> my announcement is that i was diagnosed with prostate cancer. >> bad news from tommy chong. for three hours a week, i'm a coach. but when i was diagnosed with prostate cancer... i needed a coach. our doctor was great, but with so many tough decisions i felt lost. unitedhealthcare offered us a specially trained rn who helped us weigh and understand all our options. for me cancer was as scary as a fastball is to some of th