up next on this edition of armstrong williams. of ? ? ? ? >> armstrong: let me welcome my cohost, and superstar raffi williams. thank you as always. we have daniel pike, president of the forum, who is joining us. dr. pike, thank you for joining us. while everybody is talking about turkey, talk about the back ground, the backdrop, what led >> well, two point, the first is that the military is the keeper of the legacy of the founder of modern turkey who died in 1938, a long time ago. over these 80 years, there's a military that has kept alive more than any other institution the secular pro western outlook turkey, and in the pursuit of that military coups, 1960, '81, and 1970, and they looked at the politicians and told them to start over. it's not the first time that there's been a military coup. the politicians are fighting and to the religious, andent very bizarre election. he got 33% of vote, but because of intricacy of the turkish he ended up with 66% dominating and has continued to dominate foreclose to 16 years. he has a programming -- a

>> armstrong: i'm armstrong williams and this is the "right side forum." ? ? ? ? >> armstrong: welcome back. james akerman is president and ceo. we welcome you both to the show. you know, evolving morality. you know, for me, it's always i have a strong conscience. >> right. >> armstrong: i know immediately when i'm wrong, when i shouldn't have spoken in that a way, when i did not do full disclosure, and it haunts me. and so i go inward and i ask myself, do i determine that rock -- no, it comes from my study of scripture. it comes from parents example, watching teacher, watching adult, and sometime watching people who don't think they're the best people in the world. i learn from everybody. it's interesting when you read something like the bible and it's reinforced and you know, it's like it's edge in your soul, if you never read it. right and wrong doesn't come from me. it's something i don't have control over it, but i know it my soul. with you, i know it when i'm becoming greedy and pom puss i know. but we live in a society where people think that they get to dec

i'm armstrong williams and this ? ? ? ? >>> welcome back. remember you are very good friend al apder show wits. has electile dysfunction go out and get a copy. >> if the special prosecutor even though it's not the ultimate solution, the justice department is a wol, and the fbi is doing it on its own. in water gate it's clear that without a special prosecutor, president would have gotten you had other instances where mr. fitzgerald, i issued by scooter libyan and others who were disclosing names and things of that sort. it can go out of whack, but it's certainly better, and it will inspire more confidence in the american people than the compromised justice department even now mr. comey who looks like he is playing the political wins at that time. there's nothing that prevent the department from tomorrow appointin and mentor, arch bol cox being appointed the first prosecutor in the water gate. and that should happen in my judgment in the next 24 hours. >> you give mr. dershowitz talk about his book electile dysfunction. i get confused saying t

we are going to talk about that today with your host armstrong williams. >> armstrong: i am curious, this is a conversation we should have had long ago,lejandro and sarah. is there a way they portray youth? consumption of rap music. are we stereotyping it? why is it always the black kids whose images you always see. >> i think there is a double standard in many things the beginning of the program. when you talk about heroin epidemic in the united states, now we treat it with all this empathy, poor people, addicted to this. i agree with that approach. but it should also apply to inner city communities we are dealing with, crack use and addiction to crack and cocaine and other drugs. health issue, there is a double standard. >> armstrong: sarah, this is not something that is perpetrated by the government some secret society. this is something the media does time and time again. they are the first to condemn racism. they are the greatest instigator of this kind of mentality, no one >> some is born out of the shielding from young people. free speech is not welcome, conservative ideas are

>> i'm armstrong williams, and this is the right side for. >>> you can find this in my new book, e-books on kindle and it will be there. >> and attorney gerwitz, what is >> well, the purpose was to get the mafia and to get structures that use things like pension funds as a vehicle to engage in distortion. >> and it's gone to far. you can indictment people for basically belonging to other organizations. but it started out narrow and useful and it's become a monster that swallowed its important purposes so i'm not an encourager of rico laws. >> how is your latest book, electile disfunction, how does educated opinion about this country? >> well, it can become an e-book and it didn't have to go through the process of getting published by the hard cover. and the book is only two weeks old. what i try to do is when i was teaching love in harvard for 50 years, i didn't teach them to think but i thought them how to think. i go through terrorism and protection of terrorist attacks and the supreme court and tell me to do their own analysis and make my own analysis. and i say make a checklist and c

it had to come from her don't go away we will be armstrong williamsi am armstrong williams and this is i am assistant editor. you were talking about chelsea clinton making a point about her being a millennial. >> she grew up in a generation where she was in the public forum. public domain where the world and america's eyes were watching her and every asked jen that she took. she was very cautious fearing bearing a millennial she grew up in a digital age and she could understand that on the horizon that anything having to do with emails or what you did would eventually leak out to the public. >> you know the important question for us today is the extent of the damage done to the presidential candidate. you will have 50 percent they will hate the other candidates. are you prepared and how do you recover from the damage? what does the damage do? do we understand the extent? >> i think the reputation of the media has been damaged in part by the candidates. the media favorite things of donald trump. he always calls them the dishonest media and the disgusting media. he said on the phone that

armstrong williams tells me that because dr. carson has no experience running a federal bureaucra bureaucracy, he would be best serving the president-elect in the form of the role of a trusted adviser and friend. kate? >> peter, before i let you go, can i ask you one more thing. elliott cohen, who worked for george w. bush in the state department, a republican foreign policy expert, he signed a letter a while back in favor of hillary clinton. he support clinton. he wrote an op-ed last week called to an anxious friend and he made the case last week that the trump presidency, quote, may not be as awful as we think. but then today this tweet comes out from cohen. after exchange with trump transition team, changed my recommendation. stay away. they're angry, arrogant, screaming, you lost. will be ugly. are you hearing that from other sources? >> this sort of punctuates a point you made in the introduction, the idea, including this abrupt resignation of one of the transition team members, mike rogers, former congressman from new york

that's according to a carson spokesman -- armstrong williams. there were rumors that the retired neurosurgeon was in line for a cabinet position... but williams says he never wanted the role. senate minority leader harry reid is not happy about president-elect donald trump. he says most republicans oppose him. "even as we as leaders accept the result of this election, let us also give voice to those who are afraid, because there are many who are afraid. indeed, a majority of americans oppose donald trump. many of my republican colleagues in this chamber oppose trump. they weren't alone. trump will be the first president taking office having lost the popular vote by two million." the senate minority leader also joined other senate democrats in condemning trump's appointment of steve bannon as his chief strategist. reid is leaving the senate in january. trump... a factory in japan is overwhelmed with donald trump mask orders... after the election. they say they're struggling to cope with the demand. employees have been working non-stop to catch up

business manager armstrong williams says carson won't join the incoming president-elect's administration and would only serve as an unofficial adviser. he was viewed as one of the likely picks to leat back obamacare in the new administration. and there is now a call to get rid of the electoral college. retiring democratic senator barbara boxer introduced a new bill yesterday. it's been a popular debate since the election...when hillary clinton won the popular vote but still lost the election to donald trump. that's happened in four other elections in u-s history. it would be extremely difficult for a bill like this to pass since it's a proposed constitutional approval of at least 38 states. ahead on wakeup - you could own chairs that are part of milwaukee history. the auction being held to help a great cause in the city. and protests over the dakota access pipeline continue...as the company looks to get back to work on construction. the very latest after the break. and reports this morning that the bucks won't be staying in any hotels associated with the president-elect -- donald trump.

because some of the things i said i would quote you as well, is that your confidant, armstrong williams, told the hill carson thinks he has never run a federal agency and the last thing he would want to do is take a position to cripple the presidency. now we get a tweet you from saying you're going to have an announcement soon as sort of a hint that you will be accepting a position. >> well, you know, that is one of the funny things that the quote that you just had from armstrong williams. he did an article in the hill completely refuting that but no one wanted to talk about that. you know, he was just sort of talking off the cuff about people who haven't spent their lives in government. nobody wants to talk about that. the fact of the matter is, you know, every job is very important. in terms of kplekcomplexity, i guarantee you that very little comes close to neuro surgery, and particularly complex neuro surgery. these things can be acquired and can you put people around you who know all the little details about something that happened 56 years ago. that's not important. what's importa

carson. >> his business manager, who of course you know from the campaign, armstrong williams, said aboutrtment, he said dr. carson feelings he has no government experience. he's never run a federal agency. last thing he'd want to do is take a position that could cripple the presidency. it seemed like williams was really not doing dr. carson any favors with that. i mean, this is a man who ran for president. if he thinks he's too much of a novice to be hhs secretary, what was he doing running for president? >> well, i mean, dr. carson i think believes he can be a part of an administration. obviously thought he could be president. >> does he have these concerns, that, oh, i don't have government experience? >> he never expressed that to me. dr. carson, though, on the other hand, part of the reason he ran was to -- because of his concern about the hopelessness that's taking place in many of our cities, be that housing, be that jobs, whatever. >> do you think that's a better fit for him, housing and ush be development? >> i think he could have handled health and human services. he has a lot o

but, carson's business manager armstrong william says carson maintained he would be on to considering a senior role in the administration if trump convinced him there was no one else for the job. >> local advocate deray mckes inwill be paid $25,000 by the city of baton rouge after he and two others were arrested in protests death of sterling over the smevrp the lawsuit accuses police of using excessive force against protesters and violating their constitutional rights to freedom of speech. >> d.c. public schools may have a new chancellor. mayor becauseer has nominated the city superintendent of oakland schools. he is a big supporter of charter schools and mainstreaming special education students. the former teacher, principal, served as a top official in the job in oakland. wilson says he will fight for every child to learn. >>> fact of the matter is we do not have a young person to waste. we cannot afford to say that because a young person had a bad day, or a bad month that we are going to now advocate our responsibility to ensure the system works for that young person. >> d.c. counc

that carson was considered for secretary of health and human services, his business partner, armstrong williams who speaks for him, said carson simply doesn't have the experience to run a federal bureaucracy and believes it would be, and i'm quoting here, be a diser isses have to t have -- be a disservice to try to do so. carson could lead an age enswi 8400 employees, budget of $48 will.9 million within one enforcing fair housing laws or doesn't sometimes and oversees funding for 1.2 million public housing. jay i will start with you. i have to say, you know, this feels like he was maybe going to get hhs his own spokesperson says he is not eququalified to a federal agency and now he is floated for hud which seems like a blatant humiliation of the department, frankly. >> chris, i have to go back it last fall when ben carson cared so much about his campaign that he took two weeks off to go on a book tour. this is not the man who has ever cared about being president. this is not man who ever cared about government. this is a man who earlier this campaign season said well i'm kind of endorsing trump

that carson was considered for secretary of health and human services, his business partner, armstrong williams who speaks for him, said carson simply doesn't have the experience to run a federal bureaucracy and believes it would be, and i'm quoting here, be a diser isses have -- be a disservice to try to do so. 8400 employees, budget of $48 will.9 million within one enforcing fair housing laws or doesn't sometimes and oversees funding for 1.2 million public housing. jay i will start with you. i have to say, you know, this feels like he was maybe going to get hhs his own spokesperson says he is not qualified to run a federal agency and now he is floated for hud which seems like a blatant humiliation of the department, frankly. last fall when ben carson cared so much about his campaign that book tour. this is not the man who has ever cared about being president. this is not man who ever cared this is a man who earlier this campaign season said well i'm kind of endorsing trump because he offered me the best deal. he is grotesquely unqualified for this position. it is an embarrassment he would pos

however, this is a statement from his own business manager, armstrong williams. dr. carson feels he has no government experience. he's never run a federal agency, the last thing he would want to do is take a position that could cripple the presidency. can he-- kennedy: he was talking about hhs. >> sure. kennedy: why does that make more sense for dr. carson? >> i think it makes less sense. he's talking about home ownership and just things that seem very much out of his scope to me. >> i disagree. melissa: what he understands is the fund fundamentally approach to inner cities and you have to raise people up. he was outspoken about handouts -- >> i want to go back to this. there's something to be said for staying in your lane. >> i disagree in staying in your lane. kennedy: establishment position, do what you've always done. >> you have a skill set -- >> why would you want to continually put bureaucrats to run agency. >> who said burr contracts. >> let me take lisa's list. >> except with rick perry moment. [laughter] >> when you look at what donald trump is bringing in

ben carson, you had armstrong william the other say saying ben carson is not ready with many agenciesought he was ready for president. >> if you look at betsy devos, this is an area that she's been interested in. >> she's such an educational extremist and the idea that she's going to preside over a public education is terrifying. >> how is full choice extreme? f >> that's apart. >> she would be a pick. she would be a pick, probably any republican party. >> so i am sorry, we are in the process of normalizing. >> she's not just about school's choice. she's about using public funds for private schools. she did not receive a private public school education. >> i think we'll be having the same debate if john kasich who she supported. >> i don't think john will be a candidate. >> we'll be right back at our "roundtable," we'll be right back. [vo] quickbooks introduces jeanette. and her new business: i do, to go. jeanette was excellent at marrying people. but had trouble getting paid. not a good time, jeanette. even worse. now i'm uncomfortable. but here's the good news, jeanette got quickboo

business manager armstrong williams flushed that out a little bit to the hilt. he said, quote, dr. carson says he feels he has no government experience. agency. the last thing he would want to do is take a position that could cripple the presidency. now, see, that's hilarious, because ben carson ran for if he is a person who feels he has no government experience, he any government bureaucracy somebody else's federal government working for a different president, that could cripple that presidency, ben carson would be so terrible. that is a funny view to have of yourself while asking the american people to vote for you to be president of the united government. so this is not like funny weird. this is like funny ha. but now tonight it gets better. because tonight ben carson posted on facebook that after all this, we should in fact expect a forth coming announcement from the trump transition team about ben carson getting a big new job in the federal fish bowl. but it's not that health and human services job that they talked about last week. that might have made no sense to put somebody

what i found startling about armstrong williams, business manager's statement, he's a neophyte and it was a lot to ask. he ran for president. >> in the waehite house -- >> when it comes to dr. ben carson you take what they say with a grain of salt. i've been told, at least. ben carson told a place for him in the administration. whether or not a cabinet secretary position, armstrong saying hhs was an opportunity for him, ben carson decided he wants to stay outside of the administration and advise from that capacity. >> or also make a lot of money. >> you can also make money. ben carson made a lot of money on the speaking circuit. again, underscores that there are a lot of loyalists here that want big-time positions. people on the outside that want positions trying to figure they're way in. the baseline reality here is, as you noted, we are 60-plus day away. major decisions to be made for hurns if not thousands of government positions and a lot of dissension inside. interesting.tary of state, names we have, former ambassador bolton. also we have rudy giuliani. newt gingrich, bob corker,

he did run for president, and then his spokesperson, armstrong williams, said last week he did not, carson was not going to serve in the trump administration, because he felt he was not prepared to run an agency. that is a spokesperson, not carson himself. maybe he was freelancing. first thing, unusual for a spokesperson to say you're not going to serve because you're not qualified. second thing is, we don't know from carson's background any experience he has about the housing issues that the head of hud would deal with. he's going to step into a position dealing with very sticky issues. bare housing act, for example. a lot of important questions around housing, desegregation that hud deals with. the obama administration has been very forward leaning keeping federal funds for cities they don't believe are doing enough on desegregated housing. sticky racial issues he'll deal with if confirmed for this position and, of course, hud is the agency that sued donald trump's organization way back in the '70s and '80s for unfair housing practices. it's an important position. >> how might he be able

this comes from armstrong williams, his close associate. people had suggested maybe ben carson could end up as secretary of hhs. >> or maybe the department of education. then he turned it down, telling malia henderson he's never run an agency and it's a lot to ask. so that is the very latest. there you go. >> there you go. >> that is the very latest with the president-elect. the current president has just kicked off his final foreign trip of his presidency. right now, he's in greece where he and the prime minister there just spoke with reporters. >> cnn white house correspondent michelle kosinski traveling with the president. he joins us with, again, the president keeps filling in more of his feelings and election a election every time he speaks. >> considering the first time we heard from him extensively after the election was just yesterday. so yesterday it was interesting to see his tone be optimistic and wanting to give donald trump a chance even though he didn't agree with him on so many things. based on the questions that he was asked

position to damage the administration by doing something he wasn't qualified to do or that's how armstrong williams described his mental state about this and then the other thing is i don't think establishment republicans like ben carson very much or the scam candidates who run these nonsense presidential campaigns to raise money and not really try to be president. so that's another notary public nati option. >> talk about donald trump not getting intelligence briefings every single day. this is a man who's not up to speed on foreign policy because he was not working in foreign policy at all before elected. would it not be the case that he would think he needs to get into it as much as he possibly can before he takes office or is it fair to say he's been working really hard on the transition and try to find roles for cabinet positions? >> i mean, the transition is always a lot of work for every mr. speaker a president-elect. this reminds me of it being pulling teeth to get him to do debate prep and couldn't get him to focus like debate prep. didn't want to do mock debates. this is a similar thing t

carson was being considered for secretary of health and human services, his business manager, armstrong williams, who tends to speak for him told the news that carson doesn't have the experience to run a federal bureaucracy and wleev believes would be a disservice to try to do so. the last thing he'd want to do is take a position that could cripple the presidency. despite that, carson could soon lead an agency that enforces fair housing laws or doesn't sometimes and overseas funding for public housing among many more responsibilities. joining me now morgan state university johnson and josh barro business insider. i got to say like you know this feels like he was maybe going to get hhs. his own spokesperson says he's not qualified to run a federal agency. and now he's being floated for hud which just seems like a blatant humiliation of the department. >> i have go back to last fall when ben carson cared so much about his campaign that he took two weeks off to go on a book tour. this is not a man who has ever cared about being president. this is not a man who has ever cared about government. this

lot of speculation since she a physician, maybe health and human service as good idea, but armstrong williams, longtime aide, he doesn't really want that job. it's way, way too complicated. >> wanted to be president. which sass to say -- he did run for president, which is a bigger job than hhs, but, yes. seems ben carson thinks he can do more from the periphery, was a very loyal donald trump supporter. one interesting thing to your point it will show an evolution of donald trump already if he does welcome in someone who may have been against him. this isn't someone known not hold grudges. to see that, probably a good sign for maybe some of the people a little nervous. >> and clear, molly, rudy giuliani, former new york city mayor really would like to be the secretary of state. john bolton, former u.s. ambassador, to like to be the secretary of state. there are other names. bob corker, joining us, chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. his name thrown out. what are you hearing? >> all of those names and then some. everyone is on the table. republicans out of power so long, there a

ben carson you had armstrong williams the other day saying ben carson doesn't feel he would be readyo run an agency. if you look at betsy devos, her area she's interested. i can see another republican president appointing her. >> she is such an education extremist. that she will preside over public education is terrifying. >> how is school choice extreme? >> she is not just in favor of school choice. that's a part of it. >> she would be a pick. probably any republican president. >> i disagree. >> we're in the process now of normalizing -- >> she is a very anti-lgbt candidate. she is someone who -- she is not just about school choice. what she is about is using public funds for private schools and she herself did not receive a public school education. none of her children have. >> i think we would be having the same debate if john kasich whom she supported in the primary for president. he could have appointed her too. >> i don't think he would have. >> we have to squeeze a break in. we're a little late for one. we'll be right back. busy with e kids to get a repair estimate. liberty di

>> i spoke with armstrong williams, one of his closest advisers yesterday actually.im. he said, look, kevin, when the president of the united states asks you to serve, you serve. and so i think what i'm hearing is that dr. carson is really mulling this decision carefully over the holiday today. he, of course, is a neighbor to donald trump down here in florida. i think he's going to be talking with his family over some turkey tonight, and i would expect that formal announcement in the next 24 to 48 hours. >> big announcement everyone is waiting for is secretary of state. do you have any inside scoop for us on that? >> well, you know, i think the names that we're hearing publicly of course. mitt romney is someone that everyone is talking about. i think that there's a lot that could happen with that pick. i think that we're going to have to wait and see where exactly that all comes down. i would look to see if there's any meetings over the course of this weekend regarding that pick. clearly he's facing pressure from some conservatives such as governor huckabee and newt