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both blade and bennie were waived to adult court. bennie pled guilty to murder and aggravated battery. he was sentenced to 60 years. blade's case was more complicated. court records revealed blade was the victim of physical and sexual abuse when he was an infant. psychiatric reports concluded blade's mental maturity was that of a 10-year-old. after months of highly charged hearings, blade pled guilty to robbery resulting in serious injury and one juvenile account of aggravated battery. he was sentenced to 30 years in prison. neither boy had ever had a brush with the law prior to the crime. >> during the crime there was a lot of panic and fear. i was intoxicated and stuff, too. things just got out of hand, you know what i mean? like i went to sleep and the next morning when i woke up i had to remember for a second if it really happened, you know what i mean? if it was a dream or something. >> i was a little scared. i knew i was going to do time over it in and stuff. i don't know. just mainly scared. >> no matter what a juvenile offend
both blade and bennie were waived to adult court. bennie pled guilty to murder and aggravated battery. he was sentenced to 60 years. blade's case was more complicated. court records revealed blade was the victim of physical and sexual abuse when he was an infant. psychiatric reports concluded blade's mental maturity was that of a 10-year-old. after months of highly charged hearings, blade pled guilty to robbery resulting in serious injury and one juvenile account of aggravated battery. he was...
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then there are inmates like benny alonzo, he's been convicted of felony gun possession. in less than 24 hours, he will appear before a judge to learn his sentence. >> i've been stressing a lot, too, though. i can't eat. i haven't ate lunch in three days already. >> do something, dog. >> i already know. >> alonzo will most likely be sentenced to state prison but it won't be the first time. >> how many times have you been incarcerated? >> oh, couple of times. i mean, every time i get locked up -- one, two, three, four, five, i can't really remember. maybe like seven times, six times. i don't know. >> sold heroin, crack, coke, weed, anything. one-stop shop at the house. started using drugs, started the cycle going down. just sucks, that lifestyle is no good. >> compounding the stress of his sentencing is the fear that it will cost him his girlfriend. >> i'm scared. that's one of my biggest fears, i'm going to lose my family. i mean, it happens. i've seen it too many times where people get -- i have faith. me and her are stronger than that. me and her are real strong. >> if
then there are inmates like benny alonzo, he's been convicted of felony gun possession. in less than 24 hours, he will appear before a judge to learn his sentence. >> i've been stressing a lot, too, though. i can't eat. i haven't ate lunch in three days already. >> do something, dog. >> i already know. >> alonzo will most likely be sentenced to state prison but it won't be the first time. >> how many times have you been incarcerated? >> oh, couple of times. i...
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with sin city so devilishly hot, air conditioning, benny gantz is working overtime. there was no fun in the sun at camp, just punishing heat. counselor nate jaramillo is limiting outside time. >> we have been told there's an excessive heat warning. we're expecting temperatures above 115 throughout the entire weekend. >> reporter: tucson was hotter than cairo, egypt, death valley hotter still, approaching 130 degrees. it's caused by a huge dome of hot air stalled over the west. researchers say get used to it. alexander gershunov, who studies climate change says western heat waves are changing. >> the new types of heat waves that are becoming increasingly frequent are humid heat waves, and with high humidity, we actually have much hotter night time temperatures. >> reporter: california is expecting demand for electricity to heat up. steve berberich oversees the state's power grid. >> turn up your air conditioner just a couple of degrees, it may be a little bit uncomfortable, but it's a lot more uncomfortable if you don't have enough power. >> reporter: extreme heat cau
with sin city so devilishly hot, air conditioning, benny gantz is working overtime. there was no fun in the sun at camp, just punishing heat. counselor nate jaramillo is limiting outside time. >> we have been told there's an excessive heat warning. we're expecting temperatures above 115 throughout the entire weekend. >> reporter: tucson was hotter than cairo, egypt, death valley hotter still, approaching 130 degrees. it's caused by a huge dome of hot air stalled over the west....
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i'm sitting here with mr william benny he's a thirty two year veteran of the n.s.a. who helped design a top secret program he says broadly changed american personal data and he actually helped crack those codes and enter into this he is now a whistleblower mr benny thank you so much for joining me so first of all let's talk about the latest information that has come out from this n.s.a. spying on americans well first of all the the pfizer warrant that was issued to the f.b.i. to get data from verizon. that's that's been going on according to the paper anyway since not a two thousand and seven. and this is like being renewed every three months so if you look at the top corner top right corner of that order it's thirteen dash eighty that means it's the eightieth order since in this year of two thousand and thirteen so when you start say well what are the other seventy nine orders you can figure other companies in and this is like the second order of two thousand and thirteen for each company so you know that maximum you would divide eighty by two and maximum number of
i'm sitting here with mr william benny he's a thirty two year veteran of the n.s.a. who helped design a top secret program he says broadly changed american personal data and he actually helped crack those codes and enter into this he is now a whistleblower mr benny thank you so much for joining me so first of all let's talk about the latest information that has come out from this n.s.a. spying on americans well first of all the the pfizer warrant that was issued to the f.b.i. to get data from...
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i'm sitting here with mr william benny he's a thirty two year veteran of the n.s.a. who helped design a top secret program he says broadly changed american personal data and he actually helped crack those codes and enter into this he is now a whistleblower mr benny thank you so much for joining me so first of all let's talk about the latest information that has come out from this n.s.a. spying on americans well the first of all the the pfizer warrant that was issued to the f.b.i. to get data from verizon. that's that's been going on according to the paper anyway since not a two thousand and seven and this is like being renewed every three months so if you look at the top corner top right corner of that order it's thirteen dash eighty that means it's the eightieth order since in this year of two thousand and thirteen so when you start to say well what are the other seventy nine orders you can figure other companies and and this is like the second order of two thousand and thirteen for each company so that maximum you would divide eighty by two and maximum number of co
i'm sitting here with mr william benny he's a thirty two year veteran of the n.s.a. who helped design a top secret program he says broadly changed american personal data and he actually helped crack those codes and enter into this he is now a whistleblower mr benny thank you so much for joining me so first of all let's talk about the latest information that has come out from this n.s.a. spying on americans well the first of all the the pfizer warrant that was issued to the f.b.i. to get data...
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whistleblower bill bennie about the prison program which allegedly allows the n.s.a. to access online data from nine of the largest internet companies in the country this is what he had to say. my personal view is that the intelligence community is bamboozling congress and the administration they are telling them that we have to do this in order to find the bad guys in the networks and they're just absolutely false you don't have to do that there were ways and means to do that and i left that ability in capability with them and they just threw it away so instead they opted to collect everything they could about everybody in this country and one of the reasons is that the they would want to do that the only one i could think of is they want to be able to leverage anybody in this country so essentially what bill binney is saying there is that the government chooses what is and what is not legal and sometimes it can be to the betterment or detriment of the person and really just depends on how that wants how the government wants to use it so do you agree with that kind o
whistleblower bill bennie about the prison program which allegedly allows the n.s.a. to access online data from nine of the largest internet companies in the country this is what he had to say. my personal view is that the intelligence community is bamboozling congress and the administration they are telling them that we have to do this in order to find the bad guys in the networks and they're just absolutely false you don't have to do that there were ways and means to do that and i left that...
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swab for your leadership in doing so and also benny, i know he's a personal friend of yours, i wish i knew mr. fisher better as well but we are going to enjoy this wonderful collection and so thank you for the modern art and bob for all your leadership for doing this. this would not have happened without that occurring. it is a win win for the city. this station, supervisor kim has just arrived. i want to please welcome her up. we have been doing a lot of openings in your district, supervisor. we just did another one at the entrance transbay center. it's a gold standard, lead gold, i want to thank webcor for their leadership in getting this built and making a smooth transition. i want to thank the fire fighters because it's really the home of the alley cats and they are proud of it and they are proud of the family that they have built here because this is one of the busiest fire stations, firehouse 1, will get those calls, you know that. in fact don't be surprised if a call is made even during a time we are here because there is so much activity going on. but we know they are in a saf
swab for your leadership in doing so and also benny, i know he's a personal friend of yours, i wish i knew mr. fisher better as well but we are going to enjoy this wonderful collection and so thank you for the modern art and bob for all your leadership for doing this. this would not have happened without that occurring. it is a win win for the city. this station, supervisor kim has just arrived. i want to please welcome her up. we have been doing a lot of openings in your district, supervisor....
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the film profiled a disillusioned analyst william benny. >> the dangers is we fall into a totalitarian state like germany. >> reporter: he says he and poith achpoit hch poi poithras flew to hong kong to meet the source. the connection was made. the fbi is searching for snowden and his computer trail to built a case against him. >> he was an i.t. guy. and when you're one of those i.t. guys, you have a lot more access to a lot of different parts of a network because you're managing it. >> reporter: senator ron wyden filed legislation to declassifies the program and demanded answers from intelligence chief james clapper for denying records were collected. >> it's not possible for the congress to do the kind of vigorous oversight that the president spoke about if you can't get straight answers. >> and that was nbc's andrea mitchell reporting for us. >>> the largest attempt to rewrite immigration law has cleared a crucial step in the senate. an overwhelming 82-15 vote senators moved to what is expected to be a lengthy debate on a bipartisan proposal. it provides the department of homeland s
the film profiled a disillusioned analyst william benny. >> the dangers is we fall into a totalitarian state like germany. >> reporter: he says he and poith achpoit hch poi poithras flew to hong kong to meet the source. the connection was made. the fbi is searching for snowden and his computer trail to built a case against him. >> he was an i.t. guy. and when you're one of those i.t. guys, you have a lot more access to a lot of different parts of a network because you're...
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we met this other couple at the resort, frank and benny. with them a lot. - [goofy voice] frank and beans.
we met this other couple at the resort, frank and benny. with them a lot. - [goofy voice] frank and beans.
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monitoring the phone calls at, e-mails, and online chats of ordinary americans with the help of internet benniesike google and facebook. the white house says that the surveillance is overseen by congress. support of rally in snowden argued there is little accountability if the oversight is conducted in secret. >> they are sweeping up billions of bytes of data every minute. this is not right. it is not just. >> in london, foreign secretary william hague denied allegations britain has been using the program as a way of circumventing more to the uk laws. >> our relationship with the united states is subject to administrative oversight. our agencies wrecked this and uphold uk law at all times. >> snowden is now hiding in hong kong, fearing retaliation from the u.s. government. he revealed his identity through the british newspaper the guardian. >> i think his goal is to end up outside the clutches of the u.s. government as long as he can, knowing very well that will likely not succeed. >> fled to hongys he kong because of its history of preserving free speech. the chinese territory also has an extra
monitoring the phone calls at, e-mails, and online chats of ordinary americans with the help of internet benniesike google and facebook. the white house says that the surveillance is overseen by congress. support of rally in snowden argued there is little accountability if the oversight is conducted in secret. >> they are sweeping up billions of bytes of data every minute. this is not right. it is not just. >> in london, foreign secretary william hague denied allegations britain has...
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just before 2:00 this morning at the corner of g and benny road in southeast, 17-year-old girl was shot twice back there. she's going to live. in the same incident, a 20-year- old male was shot twice a few yards away. he is also going to live away. 24 years later, a lot of people out here, most are not surprised. we have those type of incidents all the time. >> i can't stand being around here. i want to move. >> this isn't your normal. the two young people were shot in front of these four apartment buildings, but no one seems to have seen or heard anything. >> this is not the only time that somebody got shot around here. >> i lost my son to street violence. >> nobody wants to be here. you get this from behind closed doors. enter somebody tried to break your door down with a baseball bat? >> yeah, beat my door. >> doesn't want to risk a witness. most want to remain unanimous. >> we need to move. >> why do you need to watch your kids? >> because it's not safe. >> they did ask for a playground, a trash pickup and a maintenance crew for needed repairs. >> because it is rejected and people s
just before 2:00 this morning at the corner of g and benny road in southeast, 17-year-old girl was shot twice back there. she's going to live. in the same incident, a 20-year- old male was shot twice a few yards away. he is also going to live away. 24 years later, a lot of people out here, most are not surprised. we have those type of incidents all the time. >> i can't stand being around here. i want to move. >> this isn't your normal. the two young people were shot in front of...
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i am joined by benny and his lawyer.den. some correspondents think he sneaked out of moscow's airport, but where would he go if he did that? >> it's hard to tell. i think he should come back here and face the charges and go into court, because this issue really needs to be taken into the supreme court for resolution. this is fundamentally, what they are doing is spying on all americans and come piling the information is a fundamental violation of the rights. >> you believe snowden should come back even after what happened to you, because you went through the proper channels and the government retaliated against you. >> yeah, they never let me get into court. i wanted to take the issue right into court, and they try to silence you, i wanted to talk about it on the steps of the court, because this issue is fundamental to the freedoms of this country. yesterday i read a quote in the newspaper from my former lieutenant colonel, and he said the surveillance program is only something they couldn't even dream of when he was in
i am joined by benny and his lawyer.den. some correspondents think he sneaked out of moscow's airport, but where would he go if he did that? >> it's hard to tell. i think he should come back here and face the charges and go into court, because this issue really needs to be taken into the supreme court for resolution. this is fundamentally, what they are doing is spying on all americans and come piling the information is a fundamental violation of the rights. >> you believe snowden...
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benny was elected to the post by a 97-1 vote. she's been a long-time supporter and fundraiser for president obama. >>> and a major speech from the president today calling for new legislation to combat climate change, besides expected calls for new knewble energy he revisited the debate over the keystone oil pipeline. more on that. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: under a scorching gun at georgetown unversionty, president obama wants to establish carbon pollution standards for new and existing power plants. >> as a president, as a father, and as an american, i'm here to say we need to act. [ applause ] >> i refuse to condemn your generations and future generations for a plan beyond fixes. >> reporter: the plan includes making up to $8 billion. he would also direct the department of interior to have wind and solar renewable programs to power more than 6 million homes by 2020 and he said he would only authorize the controversial keystone pipeline if building it generates fewer greenhouse gases than the alternative. but some environmentalest rallyin
benny was elected to the post by a 97-1 vote. she's been a long-time supporter and fundraiser for president obama. >>> and a major speech from the president today calling for new legislation to combat climate change, besides expected calls for new knewble energy he revisited the debate over the keystone oil pipeline. more on that. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: under a scorching gun at georgetown unversionty, president obama wants to establish carbon pollution standards for new and...
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i the film featured a retire analyst william benny. greenwald says he and poitras flew to hong kong to meet the source. the connection was made. the fbi is searching for snowden and his computer trail to built a case against him. >> he was an i.t. guy. and when you're one of those i.t. guys, you have a lot more access to a lot of different parts of a network because you're manage it. >> senator ron widen filed legislation to declassify the fisa program and demanded answers from intelligence chief james clapper for denying records for collection. >> it's not possible for the congress to do the kind of vigorous oversight that the president spoke about if you can't get straight answers. >> that was nbc's andrea mitchell reporting. >>> the latest attempt to rewrite the nation's immigration laws has passed a crucial step in the senate. senators are expected what is believed to be a lengthy debate on a bipartisan proposal. it provides the department of homeland security with an additional $3 billion to improve border security. after the vote
i the film featured a retire analyst william benny. greenwald says he and poitras flew to hong kong to meet the source. the connection was made. the fbi is searching for snowden and his computer trail to built a case against him. >> he was an i.t. guy. and when you're one of those i.t. guys, you have a lot more access to a lot of different parts of a network because you're manage it. >> senator ron widen filed legislation to declassify the fisa program and demanded answers from...
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is complete pull out in twenty forty and there's phyllis bennis from stupid policy studies explains the taliban never said they'd stop fighting despite this agreed to negotiate. taliban position is very much a reflection of what was the semiofficial position of the united states during the negotiations with vietnam after nine hundred seventy three in the henry kissinger read peace process so-called where the us talked about how we will negotiate as if there were no war and we will fight as if there were no negotiations this is what the taliban are doing neither side has agreed to start fighting the taliban is not the u.s. and russia so i think the one who gets left out in the cold here is the karzai government and of course there is a serious problem for karzai because and he has come back against the united states and said we're canceling talks not only a round these doha processes but we're canceling talks with the united states over the stationing of troops after twenty four fifteen so far that turnover to the afghans is far more rhetorical than it is real there are still sixty six t
is complete pull out in twenty forty and there's phyllis bennis from stupid policy studies explains the taliban never said they'd stop fighting despite this agreed to negotiate. taliban position is very much a reflection of what was the semiofficial position of the united states during the negotiations with vietnam after nine hundred seventy three in the henry kissinger read peace process so-called where the us talked about how we will negotiate as if there were no war and we will fight as if...
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is complete pull out in twenty forty let's get more analysis from phyllis bennis of from the institutefor policy studies are joining us live in los and like other two sides have very different object is from the start is it actually a road to peace. this is the only possibility for peace negotiations that have any chance at all but of course it's going to be a very difficult one as you say the two sides there really are three sides have very different agendas going in president obama in his speech in the g eight summit talked about how we see an afghan led afghan owned process meaning for him the afghan government had to be involved but of course the actual process is not involving the afghan government it's directly between the united states and the taliban so there's a difference there between what he said and the actual plan for the taliban they clearly have goals that go far beyond negotiating over conditions in afghanistan with the united states they also see the opening of this new office in doha as a way of opening up to the rest of the world ending their isolation perhaps i thi
is complete pull out in twenty forty let's get more analysis from phyllis bennis of from the institutefor policy studies are joining us live in los and like other two sides have very different object is from the start is it actually a road to peace. this is the only possibility for peace negotiations that have any chance at all but of course it's going to be a very difficult one as you say the two sides there really are three sides have very different agendas going in president obama in his...
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past whistleblowers had inspired him to release the trove of documents and in response he said quote benny drake kerry aku and manning are all examples of how overly harsh responses to public interest whistle blowing only escalate the scale scope and scale involved in future disclosures these draconian responses simply build better whistleblowers one of those many you mention is actually joining us right now thomas drake former n.s.a. senior executive and whistleblower of warrantless spying along with just a whistleblower and national security director for the government accountability project thank you so much both of you for taking the time to shoot it thank you sir perhaps i have not it's been a whirlwind couple of weeks for you guys and thomas i'll start with you daniel ellsberg of course with the most famous whistleblowers of all time said that this was the most important week in american history do you agree with that sentiment just sort of why because we're seeing the contours of an extraordinary systemic leviathan surveillance system that is now worldwide in scope. and how is prism
past whistleblowers had inspired him to release the trove of documents and in response he said quote benny drake kerry aku and manning are all examples of how overly harsh responses to public interest whistle blowing only escalate the scale scope and scale involved in future disclosures these draconian responses simply build better whistleblowers one of those many you mention is actually joining us right now thomas drake former n.s.a. senior executive and whistleblower of warrantless spying...
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but, you know, it's like a big benny hill episode we're seeing.sh papers have to be take within a grain of salt. they are saying it's not a cabinet member. that's clear. this took a long time ago. and i think this is more about the battle within cameron's own party. >> i think if these people are friends they should admit who they are. this whole we can't reveal the identities has everybody guessing. >> will it hurt your wallet? single day prices at theme walter parks. >> theme parks are up all around. i went to sea world and the tickets were astronomical. you still end up waiting in long lines. >> i have to be an expert on disney economics. that $90 just gets you in. that's before the $1,000 a day tour guide if you want to do that, before the parking, the $10 turkey legs and the $250 for a princess make-over at the bippity bopity salon. >> you better sign up. >> they must be paying you better than me. >> thanks very much. other than death and taxes there are not too many certainties in life but walmart is offering one. both tylenol and bayer adva
but, you know, it's like a big benny hill episode we're seeing.sh papers have to be take within a grain of salt. they are saying it's not a cabinet member. that's clear. this took a long time ago. and i think this is more about the battle within cameron's own party. >> i think if these people are friends they should admit who they are. this whole we can't reveal the identities has everybody guessing. >> will it hurt your wallet? single day prices at theme walter parks. >>...
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for a benny and in a first day period he said we look at more stuff on the internet in the us than we do in russia and you said it the day if it is about surveillance but also about corporations making money diaries fast and it's money and that's why they turn it they've got lockheed martin and american arms dealers arms to run the census in this country and they said it's going to be all right just fill in the form if you don't you're going to be nicked kind of the side of the stuff we live in a society we live in a society where when you know about banking on a financial institution when i'm in a society that allows the rich every single day at a week to gamble on went on a web and a poll or all star of if that if campaign if they want to do something go to the city or london go to see a corruption and you you start talking to mr rio tinto you start talking to africa mining companies you go and start you talk to that queen that harry goat leg because she's a goat she's a sense or she has. and what happens when those bets go bad you don't get a you don't last a queen right you are so
for a benny and in a first day period he said we look at more stuff on the internet in the us than we do in russia and you said it the day if it is about surveillance but also about corporations making money diaries fast and it's money and that's why they turn it they've got lockheed martin and american arms dealers arms to run the census in this country and they said it's going to be all right just fill in the form if you don't you're going to be nicked kind of the side of the stuff we live in...
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whistleblower bill benny the government has collected as many as twenty trillion emails and phone calls be longing to americans so what this means is the n.s.a. is essentially a backup server for the nation's entire store of communications both over the phone and the internet so if you email the photos say of your pug dogs first bath well the n.s.a. may have that photo somewhere in its database and now that we're all finally becoming aware of the n.s.a. surveillance and storage capabilities questions arising about who should have access to this trove of data and how it should be used for example in florida a man suspected of bank robbery is demanding that the n.s.a. turn over any phone records it may have on him to prove that he was nowhere near the location of the robbery he's accused of committing after all it's against the law for prosecutors to withhold evidence that could prove the innocence of a defendant but the government claims it doesn't have the particular phone call information in that even if it did it would be classified information and thus the defendant wouldn't be allow
whistleblower bill benny the government has collected as many as twenty trillion emails and phone calls be longing to americans so what this means is the n.s.a. is essentially a backup server for the nation's entire store of communications both over the phone and the internet so if you email the photos say of your pug dogs first bath well the n.s.a. may have that photo somewhere in its database and now that we're all finally becoming aware of the n.s.a. surveillance and storage capabilities...
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wasn't the first time they have tamed such a secret pfizer warrant and it's a whistle blower bill benny the fight's a warrant that was issued to the f.b.i. to get data from verizon. that's that's been going on according to the paper anyway since not a two thousand and seven if you look at the top corner top right corner of that order it's thirteen dash eighty that means it's the eightieth order since in this year of two thousand and thirteen but on what basis is the pfizer court granting these surveillance warrants well we can't really know since the legal justifications are kept secret so domestic spying in america is quite literally based on a secret law oregon senator jeff merkley in a democracy understanding how a statute is interpreted is essential to the conduct of our responsibility in forging forging laws and ensuring that the constitutional vision is protected to put an end to secret law senator merkley introduced legislation this week to require the attorney general to quote declassify significant foreign intelligence surveillance court opinions allowing americans to know how
wasn't the first time they have tamed such a secret pfizer warrant and it's a whistle blower bill benny the fight's a warrant that was issued to the f.b.i. to get data from verizon. that's that's been going on according to the paper anyway since not a two thousand and seven if you look at the top corner top right corner of that order it's thirteen dash eighty that means it's the eightieth order since in this year of two thousand and thirteen but on what basis is the pfizer court granting these...
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call and the government being able to listen to the content of your >>> we are back with alan, bill benny and steve yates. when we were talking before we got into the whole issue of how valuable this information is. let's pick it up from right there. and let me go to bill. bill, when you left the nsa, some of the things that we're seeing now are programs that you helped develop but you say it was intended to look at foreign sources, not u.s. is that the point that you feel like that our government has stepped across the line? >> yes it is. plus, the fact that they're collecting such bulk data. they were -- i left them with analytic principles like if you have a terrorist talk to somebody in the united states that was like the first degree. then the second degree would be who that person in the united states talked to. that formed a zone of suspicion and also you looked at who the people are that were looking at the advocating sites that advocate terrorism and then you add them to the zone of suspicion. that could have captured every terrorist i've ever known. that gives you a very focused
call and the government being able to listen to the content of your >>> we are back with alan, bill benny and steve yates. when we were talking before we got into the whole issue of how valuable this information is. let's pick it up from right there. and let me go to bill. bill, when you left the nsa, some of the things that we're seeing now are programs that you helped develop but you say it was intended to look at foreign sources, not u.s. is that the point that you feel like that...