and it's a betrayal when he says it here. it's a betrayal of the brave men and women who have kept us safe since 9/11. they deserve our gratitude and our thanks. they do not deserve to be libeled by the president on foreign sale. we saw the president on the one hand, and on the other hand approach to foreign policy. this approach has become somewhat familiar in the opening months of his administration. faced with a difficult issue rather than take a stand, president obama has attempted to set himself above the debate. to see merit in both sides of the argument. and to act as a moderator and a mediator trying to find common ground. so on the issue of iran, for example, the president apologized for america's role in supporting a coup over 50 years ago. then he said iran has also done bad things such as, quote, hostage-taking and violence against u.s. troops, end quote. as though there were moral equivalence between these two sets of actions. he described the horrors of the holocaust, the murder of 6 million jews and then said,

that strikes me as much of a betrayal as anything. guest: illegal aliens are an easy target. these people have a very hard life. and we should be careful to get people not to be against them. host: those with low or no work ethics want all the benefits than those who work hard. it is as simple as that. guest: i'm not sure exactly what she is saying, there is such a thing as what is it that we are not willing to pay a living wage here to people? isn't that supposed to be part of capitalism? you have trouble finding people to do any of the many things that illegal aliens do in this country. shouldn't you all for higher wages? host: the july issue of harper's magazine, our last caller is from maine. caller: i want to tell mr. baker i agree with everything he is saying. he is taking the words out of my mouth. my question was, how do we get involved as citizens? i have written to congressmen and senators and katzenbach a lot of rhetoric about, at no, they can't raise minimum wage because that would affect the small mom-and-pop people who are trying to make a living. it seems like,

do except it with without any significant changes, is not that of a trail -- a trail of the -- a betrayal of the demonstrators? >> we cannot say definitively what would happen. what we know is that a sizable percentage of the iranian people themselves consider this alexian illegitimate. it is not an isolated instance, a little grumbling here or there. there are significant questions about the legitimacy of the election. ultimately, the most important thing for the iranian government to consider is the legitimacy in the eyes of their own people, not the eyes of the united states. i am very clear that this is up to the iranian people to decide who their leadership is going to be and the structure of their government. what we can do is to say unequivocally that their international principles about violence, about dealing with this peaceful dissent, that spans cultures and borders and what we have been seen over the internet and violates of those principles. i think it is not too late for the iranian government to recognize that there is a peaceful path that will lead to stability and legitim

and adam saw that as a betrayal. he did things that we expect politicians to do in our age, but which we don't think our founding fathers and mothers engaged in that kind of politics. the second component to your question was what was abigail's role. in campaigning for the presidency. abigail was not happy that john either took the vice presidency or the presidency, but like everything else she went along with it because he had a duty to serve and she had a duty to serve as well. so it was that sense of duty that really compelled her to go along with this and not prevent him from taking losses. did they campaign in a way that modern politicians, no. they didn't believe in campaigning. they didn't believe political parties even existed. there were differences of opinion, but they thought all of us are in favor of the new constitution and a new government, so all they should or should no political differences. there are shades of opinion or perhaps factions but not political parties. we look back and say, oh, they were

deafened by the relentless rantses of the right week talk shows where any kind of public service is a betrayal of our credentialed that we forgot is there was somebody noble about the elementary obligations of public service. and that i think actually taking a huge risk was what obama gambled on in his campaign and is gambling, the sense of restored mutuality in trouble. if it weren't for government we would be in an even deeper hope than he actually are but it seems to be something that was lying out in american history. whenever you looked it was lying in watts and what lincoln had to say and what roosevelt had to sea and what you read about the churches in the 19-inch century that produced the most important educational programs for the people through the long miserable years of jim crow but there was lying richly in american tradition a sense of not having to apologize for decent government. and there's no guarantee we're going to get it, but at least the young, my children's generation of poking heir head -- their heads before the public service. my daughter's husband, one of many -- i to

the relentless rants of the right wing talk shows in which any kind of public service is a form of betrayal of our american credentials that we forgot there was something noble and honorable and important and necessary about the elementary obligations of public service. and that i think, you know, taking a huge risk was obama gambled on in his campaign and indeed gambling. of course, had it actually not been for government than we would be an even deeper and worse and more terminal hole in the actually are. does seem to be actually something lying out there in american history out there wherever you looked it was line, you know, have to say certainly what franklin roosevelt had to say. what you read in the records about the churches in the 19th century that produced the most important educational programs for their people all through the long miserable years of jim crow and some segregation. but there was line richly in american tradition a sense of not having to apologize for decent government. and this is no guarantee that we are going to get it. there is no guarantee we are going to get

there are areas where the things that they do would be very much betrayal of our issues, and for those, we have defined strategies. . -- we have to find strategies. . conservatives, they live and breed and community -- communicate in community. your ability to organize and get a message out, to explain to a candidate who we are and here is who they are, they have had more effective structures for doing that. i have talked about other ways we can do that outside of the church. i am still trying to figure out how we can do this. inside we want to be in a relationship with people other than our wives and mothers, and real community. we can have the kind of conversations that really help. >> for those of you who know --, we know that the most aggressive and progressive reforms after the great crash, and the depression took only about 50 years to complete get crashed. is there a mechanism we can build in, into this new round of reforms that will prevent us from getting destroyed again, 3040 years into the future? >> you are referring, i am from kansas city, so i am partial to your universit

and to be denouncing a person and crying betrayal after 150 days doesn't strike me as terribly mature. host: lynn on our line for democrats. coming out of stockton, california. caller: good morning, gentlemen. and thank you for c-span. i just wanted to offer some words of encouragement for you to keep up the fight. i think it's absolutely abhorrent that we have allowed ourselves to basically create a second class of citizens in our gay and lesbian community. and i think california is one of the worst offenders. i happen to live in a count that passed prop 8 overwhelmingly and i just don't understand. as far as the marriage issue goes, my thoughts are this. why not make all marriage just a civil union between two people? heterosexual and homo sexual? and then if you want to sanction fi it with some kind of church ceremony afterwards, fine. take the church out of the institution of marriage to start with and let it be jst between two human beings. host: lin, we're going to leave it there. guest: first of all, as to california, the positive sign the trend is with us. the earlier proposit

ahmadinejad, and if you do accept it without any significant changes in the conditions there, isn't that a betrayalf what the demonstrators there are working for? >> look, we did not have international observers on the ground. we cannot say definitively what exactly happened at polling places throughout the country. what we know is that a sizable percentage of the iranian people themselves, spanning that society, consider this election to illegitimate. it is not an isolated instance, a little grumbling here or there. there is significant question about the legitimacy of the election. ultimately, the most important thing for the iranian government to consider is legitimacy in the eyes of its own people, not in the eyes of the united states. that is why i have been very clear. ultimately this is up to the iranian people to decide their leadership in the structure of their government. what we can do is to say a quick unequivocably that there are international norms dealing with normsdissent that spans cultures, spans borders, and what we have been seeing over the internet and in news reports or violat

interamerican democratic charter in an action that constituted a grotesque and unmerited betrayal of the oppressed people of cubea. the obama administration says that the o.a.s. resolution was a great victory. because even though paragraph 1 of the resolve clause unilaterally lifted the exclusion of the cuban military dictatorship. in paragraph 2, the dictatorship was allowed to initiate a process of dialogue to re-enter the o.a.s. in accordance with the practices, purposes, and principles of the o.a.s. in other words, in the first sentence the o.a.s. ripped up and through in the garbage can the practices, purposes, and principles of the o.a.s. including its charter, and then in the next sentence it invited the cuban military dictatorship back in in accordance with the practices, purposes, and principles of the o.a.s. some victory. i mention this in the context of the foreign relations authorization act because the american taxpayer should not be be paying for almost 60% of the putrid embarrassment which is the o.a.s. i recognize that on funding international organizations the admini

any other message would be a de-- a betrayal of our fundamental principles, the principles of liberty and democracy that so many americans have sacrificed to give us and give to future generations. yes, we should not intervene, but it's up to us to make sure that those people struggling throughout the world know we're on their side. we must be bold in our words of support. i was honored to be ronald reagan's one of five speech writers serving ronald reagan. he was told, too, to tone down his rhetoric. he was told strong words would be interpreted as belligerence. with his strong words he ended the cold war. without the conflagration that hung over our heads for decades. he made it a better, a more peaceful, and a freer world with a strong message with no apologies. we should follow the lead of ronald reagan. it will make this a better world if we side with the people in tehran who oppose their mullah dictatorship. the speaker pro tempore: the time of they have -- the time of the gentleman has expire whosmed seeks recognition? ms. ros-lehtinen: i'm pleased to yield two minutes to mr. l

. >> i feel i guess a sense of betrayal a little bit, i have a little bit of resentment for the way thingsere handled. i didn't feel it was a performance issue. i felt as though it was a business issue and they had better options with tommy hanson or medlen or -- as things turned out they had an opportunity to get nate mclouth and by not paying me, i think that freed up principles of limited government. the idiots that people like my mom instead of going on welfare we should reformate because getting the job from an employer is better than getting a job offer from the government because you can take pride and teach your child a work ethic. b.a.t we should not leave our country with a huge debt we should the bit better off for our children. every generation until this generation has always sought the next generation would have a better. this is the first generation that does not believe that. it is a lot because of what we have done and the people we have elected to office that have spent our children's future and what that is what i want to talk about how we turn this around and what is th

to find out the ident i have to confidential informants he needs to be locked up forever for his betrayal to this country and law enforcement. he's just one of a growing number of recruits from both sides of the border facilitating this avalanche of corruption and an arty kentucky along the southern frontier. the mexican -- but mexican criminal cartels have added a layer of intelligence that better resemblings foreign recruitment of spies in the cold war than a traditional criminal enterprise. the huge amounts of money paid to these officials allow the criminalings to traffic people and drugs into our land. there is a huge difference in the size and scope of these international criminal activities and the typical domestic law enforcement agencies and their duties. as more and more of the violence spills over into texas and other border states, there is an urgent need to get this lawlessness under control the cost of this culture of crime is hammering bordestates. the f.b.i. is stretched too thin they don't have the manpower to address this cross-border corruption and they are fighting dom

ahmadinejad and if you do accept it without any significant changes in the conditions there, isn't that a betrayal of what the demonstrators there are working toward? >> well, look, we didn't have international observers on the ground, we can't say definitively what exactly happened at polling places throughout the country. what we know is that a sizable percentage of the iranian people themselves spanning iranian society consider this election illegitimate. it's not an isolated incidence, little grumbling here or there, there is significant questions about the legitimacy of the election. and so ultimately the most important thing for the iranian government to consider is legitimacy in the eyes of its own people. not in the eyes of the united states. and that's why i've been very clear, ultimately this is up to the iranian people to decide who their leadership is going to be and the structure of their government. what we can do is to say unequivocally that there are sets of international norms and principles about violence, about dealing with the peaceful dissent that spans cultures, spans borders

anything else would be a betrayal of the british people, who are angry and demanding that we change the rotten way we do politics for good. this is no time for more committees, more reviews, more consultation. we've been debating these issues for decades. is it not now time to get things done? i strongly welcome the prime minister's commitment to moving towards an elected house of lourdes. i also strongly welcome the move to a parliamentary standards authority and an mps code of conduct. these changes should be implemented immediately with no more delay. so will he ask this house to forego its summer recess so that we can push through all the necessary changes to clean up politics and will he make sure that his immediate proposals include the right for people to sack their mp if it's been shown they've done something seriously wrong. mr. speaker, i am dismayed that the prime minister is completely silent on the issue of party funding. how on earth can we possibly justify this? we cannot allow our politics to go the way of americans where elections have become a contest of advertising bu