keep it interesante. >>> bill clinton and hillary clinton really want to do health care first.t was like the great democratic holy grail. >> for 60 years this country tried to reform health care. president roosevelt tried, president truman tried, president nixon tried, president carter tried. every time the special interests were powerful enough to defeat them, but not this time. >> it was a masterful performance and i think he has reengaged on the issue of health care. >> if we do not guarantee health insurance to every american then we have failed all americans. >> hillary clinton was given enormous responsibility by her husband to do this hard thing, to reform health care. in a political environment you don't come up with something this complicated and do it in public but the process always requires political input. and as a result congress got defensive. >> the president is asking you to trust the government more than you trust your doctor and yourselves. >> today he started debating them. >> you have people here holding up signs saying no socialized medicine. most of them

it worked for bill clinton.after the bill clinton impeachment trial, is writing a pretty good economy and much higher approval ratings throughout thero process and the president is now. the website is dumping caulking since our guest. he wrote politics and edited cq weekly. welcome to our ministers on c-span radio. guest: i'm very much concerned about this, read all of the documents of my field his words and numbers. the terms in the constitution, the house of representatives shall have the sole power of impeachment. impeachment has brought a one-step, it is a phase. i say a phase have been ruined because they did one that went out a vote. the inquiry started and at the inquiry supposed to go on. with the rest of the house of the republicans equally participating. i say to also.out that i have a very serious problem with words when it comes to both the press and the president and the opponents and the supporters. that is the word transcript. read the document to our three times. set specifically in the last para

he went to war for bill clinton. his team went to war for bill clinton. they had a war room for bill clinton. bill clinton, james, got impeached and the day he got impeached, he had his highest approval rating ever. bill clinton lost his law license. bill clinton paid paula jones $850,000. i will say this bill clinton when hillary care failed and he said these words the era of big government is over, the end of welfare as we know it the person that james carville went to war for but still got impeached he's saying impeachment is so bad that guy would not even be accepted in this extreme, radical, new democratic-socialist party. i've never heard of so many candidates for president that think that we are going to wean ourselves off of the lifeblood of our economy oil and gas in 10 years. if we do that, we will destroy every opportunity in this country. if you come up with alternative energy, i suggest you sell it because you will be a billionaire very quickly. if we get rid of the combustion engine, get rid of airplanes that's a brilliant idea if we get rid

newt gingrich gave every due consideration to bill clinton. to bill clinton's attorney david kendall and tout democrats and to the ranking members as well as the majority. correct? >> correct. but, even more basic than that, sean, is that in both of nixon impeachment in 74 and the clinton impeachment on which we were on opposite sides in '98, there was a crime. there was clinton lying under oath, richard nixon basically covering up a burglary at the democratic national committee headquarters. so, when you have a crime it's different. what is the crime exactly that president trump is alleged to have committed? if you don't have a crime, what is this impeachment really all about. if we really want to find out what happened in ukraine

many have bill clinton. says, imagine your new car here. clinton health-care coming soon. then, clinton, we finance. then punk in the middle says, who do you fancy we should buy a used car from? the reason i love this cartoon is that it is incredibly timeless. this is from the 1993 health-care fight. you could fast-forward and you could basically take the affordable care act, obamacare, put it where conservative health care is. you could put in the clinton health care, whatever donald trump has proposed, you could put medicare for all there. the refinance his purpose -- is perfect because that is the critic of the progressive health-care plans like medicare for all. how do you pay for it? it really depicts the challenge we have with health care in the system. we don't have -- we have a series of not. appealing options that are presented by politicians. a lot of it is simply imagining what something could look like if you could finance it in some way. a lot of the cartoons will be looking at this particularly timely. >> the republican car is an old gt. i just think this is

the presidents of both parties especially with those of forceful personalities and bill clinton had a a forcible personalities artist donald trump.p. in their daily presentation to the country really permeates the cultures in ways that we will so see for some sometime. >> of course is the fourth time that the house of representatives have taken on the impeachment process. and her johnson, was not convicted in the senate, it began with richard nixon he resigned before there was about the house. in the second time there was with bill clinton and you mentioned, in december 1998, after the house voted on impeachment, that's what he told his supporters from the rose garden. >> on echo something mr. gephardt said, it is something i have felt strongly all of my life we must stop the politics of personal destruction. [applause] we must get rid of the poisonous venom of excessive partisanship and obsessive animosity and uncontrolled anger did that is not what america deserves. that is not what america is about. we are doing well now. we are a good and decent country. but we have significant ch

dealings which implicated high profile figures like bill clinton prince andrew she told me everything she did everything she was fighting for 12 years to come out to talk to us it was unbelievable what we have cleared with everything robot claims the story was stopped from going to 2015 because according to the people up stuff as no one knew who was funny that because just a few years before they'd been happily sipping champagne at his manhattan townhouse you see back in 20 media heavyweights gathered out to dinner and on of the u.k.'s prince andrew a dinner which was arranged on hosted by you guessed it south and among those who wouldn't know who epstein was what both a.b.c. and c.b.s. has phosphor to 2015 managed to entice virginia robots to fray one of the victims out of hiding produces fear. her and her family out to the a.b.c. h.q. in new york and hosted them and one of the big apple's most luxurious hotels what they got was the stoop of a lifetime to phrase through wide open the door on the marquee world of apps tide and his entourage as they flew around the wall down his privat

but it is all diagonally true that there is one rule for one group of people are the real for bill clinton and hillary. iraqi authorities are holding talks on constitutional amendments they made ongoing violence in the country and around $260.00 people are believed to have been killed thousands of anti-government demonstrations started a month ago protesters are demanding a major overhaul of the political system which was established after the u.s. led invasion back in 2003 artie's daniel hawkins is being dealt. iraq is no stranger to turmoil the country's seen little piece and even less the billet since the us led invasion of 2003 mass protests and violence of regulating gulf the state of these though are the worst since the overthrow of saddam hussein 16 years ago. i. found. hundreds killed dozens in just one week by live ammunition many thousands injured amid a heavy crackdown by security forces or the government's deployed special forces imposed curfews and an internet blackout across the whole country but that's just angered crowds even more roads and bridges have been blocked by demo

we wanted bill clinton, the house republicans wanted bill clinton to come testify on the senate floort doing it. >> for those who don't know the history of rick santorum as i do since i first met you, covering you during that time, you had sort of recently beenie tloek eo the senate so you still had some ties to the senate in the house, and you negotiated between the senate and the house. >> i was considered the house broker because the senate democrats wanted to have a vote and be done. they wanted to, in a sense, call this political charade that the house republicans were involved in just that and they wanted it ended. there are calls now for senate republicans to do the same thing. >> there are. by a lot of republicans. >> by a lot of republicans saying this is a political charade. the house republicans as much as certainly it was political to go after bill clinton knew they had a chance and bill clinton had a chance. not so much here. republicans are saying, let's just shut this off. others are saying, as you heard here with biden, no, we want a full trial, we want to expose this

but it is all dogs italy true that there is one rule for one group of people are the real for bill clinton and hillary. iraq is weighing changes to its constitution to stem escalating unrest more on that right after a short break this is art international. was introduced at a changed global geopolitics forever and you can't on invent gunpowder coyness changed now the whole notion of what money is and you cannot on invent it there's no turning back. in my i phone i have a 1000 times the capability of the of the computers and we have the space for the time i mean it's ridiculous and in my back pocket i have much much more capability . of the entire apollo program. they put themselves on the line they did accept it or reject it. so when you want to be president and she. want to. be close this is what will befall 3 of them or can't be good. interested always in the water. about this is r t international iraqi authorities are holding talks on constitutional amendments amid ongoing violence in the country around $260.00 people are believed to have been killed there since anti-government demonstr

time his morals have been called into question stories piecing together a tangled web involving bill clinton and prince andrew had sophos before images of the finance his little black book with hundreds of victims names a mug alongside testimony from a 14 year old go claiming to have had sexual relations with a 1000000000 manhattanites gossipped about how new york city was being ferried around on his private plane to his private island along with the coterie of very young women but all those revelations just like roebuck's were put back in the troll at the time not all are reporting that are standards to air but we have never stopped investigating this story ever since we've had a team on this investigation and substantial resources dedicated to it that work has led to a 2 hour documentary and 6 point podcast that will air in the new year you'd be forgiven if that rings a bell because a.b.c.'s response is uncommon the similar to n.b.c.'s comment about its coverage or lack of of media mogul harvey weinstein in the end b.c. killed the story because they said you did not have enough facts that

there is a sense of disappointment and how bill clinton ended his term with history looking over him like that. it is palpable. i agree that the assessment of when he left office are different. ofas i recall, this incident will clinton in post acquittal andlry, going to africa playing the bongo drums and smoking a big cigar actually happened. there is something about being gracious in victory that i think is appealing to americans. not being gracious in victory, not dancing on the berlin wall, for example. it is offputting. i think he captured that moment. yes, we did not force him out of office. yes, we still think he is doing a good job as president, but come on. >> i will take this one. this is george w. bush surrounded by republicans saying, i will have to reposition myself away from you guys because i am a compassionate conservative. the third one says, i thought you said you will need all the help you can get. this is before the 2000 election, so this was -- right? time, her, at the first labeled himself a compassionate conservative. there were many of us on the right who said,

guest: this moment it would be attorney general barr, like janet reno did under bill clinton. deputy attorney general rod rosen stein did because attorney general jeff sessions resuesed him. that's the person that made that decision. bill barr decided this doesn't warrant screw-u scrutiny, period, it appears, because the whistleblower complaint was warrant ithin the -- scrutiny period, it appears, because the whistleblower complaint was retained within the period. the facts is a thorough professional process weefment saw it with robert mueller n this instance that's not available to congress. congress as i said has to wear two hats. they have to develop the facts and do that publicly in a political setting just means a lot of rhetoric. it doesn't necessarily get to the facts themselves. and they are going to have to make the political judgment. i don't agree with judge starr that this process is a sham. i don't know how else it is feasible to have it unfold under what's clearly authorized in the constitution and that is impeachment. host: one other point, we saw house republic

every consideration that was given bill clinton, bill clinton's lawyers, the minority party, are allied here because of the end of the paragraph it says the same thing, it goes, at the discretion of the chairman. he said he wanted the whistle-blower. republicans gave a list -- they said no to every republican witnesses, and a cherry picking the two witnesses they think will be most favorable to them and not the ones that would destroy their narrative. what committee in the senate could call witnesses and investigate hunter and joe, because i identified the laws i believe joe biden broke. >> the allegation against hunter biden is that he had a conflict of interest by serving on the board, and that joe biden waiting to have the prosecutor fired because he was getting close to his son. the state department talked about the conflict of interest, and there is a reasonable investigation to be done here. the foreign relations committee has jurisdiction over the state department. but let me get back to the point you just made. what's happening in the house is basically unamerican. no america

>> jeffrey told me that is where his good friend bill clinton always chooses to sit as if to reassure me of the elite normalcy of that behavior. >> it is tuesday, november 19th, happening right now at 4:00 am on the east coast shocking new allegations from jeffrey epstein's accusers about bill clinton. the brand-new twist as criminal charges in the convicted sex offender's death could come today. impeachment irregularities, newly released transcripts tell some conflicting tales about donald trump's phone call with ukraine. we are live on capitol hill of another day of marathon hearings. and chickening out on charity, chick-fil-a turning its back on organizations accused of anti-lgbt q use. the major back lash the brand is facing. "fox and friends first" starts right now. ♪ cold beer on a friday night ♪ apparently it fit just right ♪ and the radio up ♪ a lot of things come ♪ heather: we will have more on the chick-fil-a story coming up later. good morning or good evening to you, you're watching "fox and friends first" on tuesday. thank you so much for starting the day with us or ending

these are the rules, under newt gingrich during bill clinton's impeachment, he afforded bill clinton -- the house openly debated, they held an official vote, the president had the ability to call witnesses, build a case, and he had a chance to talk to every witness but the corrupt compromised schiff has complete veto power, like a dictator. he can control the witness list, the evidence, and there's nothing you can do. no fair hearings, no ability to mount any defense, no rights of the accused -- we don't even know what the charges are. schiff lying to us for all these years, psychotic trump hater. he's a judge, jury, and executioner and what is only a public show trial to decide to convince the american people the president deserves to be impeached. we are told the majority of witnesses had heard nothing wrong with the call that we have a transcript to, but they aren't going to be asked to testify publicly. watch and see, that's how corrupt he is. this is the soviet union style on steroids, and so far it has all been conducted in secret by a guy that is a fact witness and compromised

. >> in 1978 bright eyed 32-year-old bill clinton was running for governor in arkansas. >> i've triedn people in politics. >> he and his wife hillary were also investing in some real estate. a nice little batch of land in the ozarks called whitewater. that blot of wand on the whitewater, a two bit land deal that lost money would change the course of history. >> are you a subject or a target? >> read you your rights? >> decades later -- >> the whitewater controversy. >> whitewater. >> political questions over whitewater. >> whitewater became a massive spiraling investigation. >> is there a deal? >> that led prosecutors to a sex scandal. >> the ayes have it. >> there it is. >> william jefferson clinton is impeached. >> that became the second presidential impeachment in american history. >> how on earth did that little corner of arkansas -- >> i here by deliver the articles of impeachment. >> -- explode into a constitutional showdown. >> it was a two bit land deal and this leads from one thing to another and we are on the house floor debating whether he should be removed from office. >>

i wonder if bill clinton existed in this moment, could he have survived? >> that's a great question. there is no question to reappraise clinton at this moment. it's not just monica. monica, of course, she was consensual, willing, in fact, in some ways, pro viacom tour. she raised her thong and all of that. that's true, but today we look at that a little different. he was a person ouflt mat power. and even if she was consensual, she was 22 years old and there is something very imbalanced about that. there is no question that we would look at a person in his position today taking advantage of that position to obtain personal gratification in a different way, and then you add the other allegers, victims he's had over the years, who have alleged various things about him. paula jones, wrath lean willie and in particular, broderick, they were not consensual and in keeping with the things that we've focused on in the country in the last two years, certainly would be considered to be sexual assault. and there is this moment, you know, those three women have been an

governor bill clinton. >> clinton is the first democrat to be elected since 1976.nting himself as someone who could speak to the african-american community. >> our diversity can be a source of strength in a world that's ever smaller. where everyone counts and everyone is a part of america's family. >> it's a new day in america. >> six women will serve in the new u.s. senate, including the first black woman. >> most women credit anita hill with starting this political movement. they say the rage they felt at her treatment by the senate judiciary committee fueled their campaigns. >> it was a hopeful time when women began seizing some of these offices. it sensitized women and minorities to the fact that our voices have to be heard. and the real way to have them be heard is to be holding the reins of power. >> $2.4 million. that's great box office for a wednesday, and that's what opening day crowds paid out to see "malcolm x." >> it's hard to miss the phenomenon called spike lee. spike lee is a black man who has reached the top of white culture. he's done it his way. >

clinton: i am also obama,l because barack jimmy carter, and bill clinton would have never become president without the voting rights act and the support. [applause] over thees. clinton: years, john cosponsored every single reauthorization of the voting rights act, as well as the voter lot to make it easier to register, which was one of the first laws i signed as president. againstt tooth and nail every encroachment on the right to vote, including sponsoring legislation to support crucial elements of the voting rights act that were unforgivably gutted by that supreme court decision in 2014. john knew there were no permanent victories in human knew theret he also were no permanent defeats, so he kept on going, right to the very end. i likedhe things that about him is he did not give up on things he thought were important. i remember, i think john conyers was the first person who ever quoted frederick douglass to me, saying, "power concedes nothing without a demand." will.er did, and it never he understood that. dr. king days after was killed in memphis, he foroduced the first bill martin lut

impeaching him anyway. >> article 1 is adopted. >> we have witnesses history. >> the house impeached bill clintonsident resigned that his legacy will be forever scarred today. >> on this article of impeachment -- >> in the senate, he was easily acquitted. >> william jefferson clinton is not guilty. >> in retrospect, the 1998-99 effort to impeach and remove clinton is viewed as a partisan endeavor because the american people spoke in the midterms in 1998 and said, we don't really want to impeach this president. >> after the senate trial, congress took the law that created ken starr's job and let it die. >> no, i'm not going to comment. >> a bipartisan acknowledgement that things had gone too far. >> women will be silent no more. >> but today in the "me too" era, clinton's impeachment is being seriously reconsidered. his affair with a young intern seen by many as an abuse of power. >> my greatest mentor, hillary clinton. >> democrat kirsten gillibrand, who holds hillary clinton's old senate seat -- >> women's voices matter. >> -- said in 2017 that bill clinton should have resigned. >> the kind of b

jillian: newt gingrich was speaker of the house during bill clinton's impeachment.n his experience he says democrats right now are accepting more than a sham investigation, they are looking to overthrow the president. >> none of this is real. what you are faced with here is a democratic party desperately committed to destroying the president. they don't care what the arguments are. they don't care what the facts are. they have an absolute deep passionate need, i would argue a pathological need to try to destroy the president even if in the process they cripple themselves. all of us who try to talk about fact misunderstand the conversation. this is a drama. this is a drama in which adam schiff and nancy pelosi and others are living out their fantasies, desperation because deep down they think trump is going to be reelected and they are faced with a nightmare. jillian: the house is conducting hearings, the official judgment on impeaching donald trump comes from the senate and the 2 thirds majority vote. rob: lawmakers in sarasota, florida are considering resolution to

impeaching him anyway. >> article 1 is adopted. >> we have witnessed history. >> the house impeached bill clintonsident resigned that his legacy will be forever scarred today. >> on this article of impeachment -- >> in the senate, he was easily acquitted. >> william jefferson clinton is not guilty. >> in retrospect, the 1998-99 effort to impeach and remove clinton is viewed as a partisan endeavor because the american people spoke in the midterms in 1998 and said, we don't really want to impeach this president. >> after the senate trial, congress took the law that created ken starr's job and let it die. >> no, i'm not going to comment. >> a bipartisan acknowledgement that things had gone too far. >> women will be silent no more. >> but today in the "me too" era, clinton's impeachment is being seriously reconsidered. his affair with a young intern seen by many as an abuse of power. >> my greatest mentor, hillary clinton. >> democrat kirsten gillibrand, who holds hillary clinton's old senate seat -- >> women's voices matter. >> -- said in 2017 that bill clinton should have resigned. >> the kind of b

this is hillary before she married bill clinton. le bit different hairstyle and she lost her glasses. and then to 2001, this is .enator hillary clinton this is january 20, 2001. i love the picture and the bushes get along fine. , misses barbara bush referred to bill clinton as the back -- the black sheep of the bush family. >> she didn't like it when her sometimes call lynn -- call though clinton his brother from another mother. >> this is a photograph i did for politico magazine as she is running for president against bernie sanders and the incumbent. images help us understand events unfolding. we can see an hour of crisis. one of the reasons you went into forward you have gone is the complexity and the panoply of every kind of human condition, ups and downs and everything else. >> i've been very fortunate to do this. curious about being what are these people thinking? photograph ofthis john kerry and john mccain. both of them became the candidates of their party. opposites,olitical vietnam war veterans, friends. and one of the thin

ginsburg lecture with featured speakers justice jens berg -- justice ginsburg, former president bill clinton, and former secretary of state hillary clinton. they reflect it on justice ginsburg's nomination as well as her approach to the law. this is 90 minutes. [applause] >> wow. law the dean of georgetown and it is a privilege to welcome you to the second annual ruth bader ginsburg lecture. the first lecture was held in april of 2018. our first speaker was justice ginsburg. it

clinton: i am also grateful because barack obama, jimmy carter, and bill clinton would have never become president without the voting rights act and the support. [applause] former pres. clinton: over the years, john cosponsored every single reauthorization of the voting rights act, as well as the voter lot to make it easier to register, which was one of the first laws i signed as president. he fought tooth and nail against every encroachment on the right to vote, including sponsoring legislation to support crucial elements of the voting rights act that were unforgivably gutted by that supreme court decision in 2014. john knew there were no permanent victories in human affairs, but he also knew there were no permanent defeats, so he kept on going, right to the very end. one of the things that i liked about them is that he didn't care about things he thought were not important. i think he is the first person to ever quote to me, saying "power can cease nothing without a demand." never did, never will. he understood that. the day dr. king was killed in memphis -- [indiscernible] on his his

bill clinton was in his second term. andrew johnson wasn't going anywhere. molly: could not get nominated. bill: right. exactly. there has now, been a lively analytical debate with surprising people taking surprising sides on the question of whether the impeachment but non-conviction of bill clinton turned out to be a decisive disadvantage for al gore in the year 2000 because gore was in affect running for bill clinton's third term, although he refused to admit that factor alain and i can continue to. i can that -- elaine and continue to debate that. some people argue that but for the clinton affair gore would have been elected fairly easily. others, including a lot of political science -- say the division in the popular vote was almost exactly what would have been predicted in the absence of that. and so, the one reasonably contemporary example from which we now draw some lessons yields no clear lessons. it is also the case that assuming even a relatively slow timetable, the senate trial will be over by early federal, early to mid february. outn't see it str

monday's funeral include remarks from former president bill clinton remembered the late democratic lawmaker for his public service. >> ladies and gentlemen,, at this time i would invite my friend, when we love dear, our 42nd president of these united states of america, the honorable william jefferson clinton. [applause] >> thank you very much. bishop, it's an honor to be back. thank you and the other bishops and pastors who are participating and other religious leaders for in this audience. i want to thank monica, john, carl, nathan, the entire conyers family for inviting me to come and pay tribute to my friend. i want to thank this amazing array of political leaders who have come here. john conyers is 90. the governor, the lieutenant governor, the centers, the members of the house of representatives, the leaders of the congressional black caucus, the mayor, the county executive, the chief federal judge, reverend jackson, professor michael eric dyson would deliver the eulogy. don't worry. it says professor but it means preacher. you'll be just fine. i'd like to thank the people of detroit f

>> former president bill clinton spoke in detroit at the funeral for former michigan congressman john conyers, who died at the end of october. mr. conyers served in the house of representatives from 1965 until 2017, making him the longest-serving african-american member of congress and the sixth longest-serving member in u.s. history. john conyers was 90 years old. gentlemen, i will bring to the mic at this time, our friend, one who we love dear. our 42nd president of these united states of america, the honorable william jefferson clinton. [applause] former president clinton: thank you for every much. the ship, -- bishop, it is an honor to be back. i thank you and the other bishops and pastors who are participating and the other religious leaders who are in the audience. i want to thank monica, john, paul, nathan, the entire conyers family for inviting me. i come to pay tribute to my friend. i want to thank this amazing array of political leaders who have come here. john conyers was 90. the governor, the lieutenant governor, the senators, members of the house of representatives, the l

ken star did testify against bill clinton. but the case is not made by other prosecutors of the attorney general. they are obviously still the president's employees. the case is made by members of the house, who go over to the senate to lead the impeachment charge, meaning, if the house impeaches, you will see even more of adam schiff, the intelligence committee chair, who has swiftly become one of the famous people in washington and also a major target of trump's allies. >> adam schiff is not a prosecutor. >> chairman schiff running this one-sided soviet style scam. >> i'm sorry. adam schiff is not an independent counsel. >> schiff emphasizes the ukraine scandal has required congress to do the work of an independent counsel that a normally independent prosecutor at the justice department would do. >> it has forced the congress to do the initial investigative work that normally a special counsel would do. >> in the clinton and nixon cases congress did rely on these special counsels to get the basic facts. providing the investi

newt gingrich gave every due consideration to bill clinton. to bill clinton's attorney, david kendall, and to the democrats and to the ranking members as well as the majority. correct? >> correct. but even more basic than that, sean, is that in both the nixon impeachment in '74 and the clinton impeachment on which we were on opposite sides in '98, there was a crime. there was clinton lying under oath, richard nixon basically covering up a burglary at the democratic national committee headquarters. so, when you have a crime it's different. what is the crime, exactly, that president trump is alleged toru have committed? if you don't have a crime, then what is this impeachment really all about? i mean, if we really want to find out what happened in ukraine, then let the impeachment call every politician republican and democrat who is fed at the trough. i want to know every lobbyist, every relative of politician or lobbyist who has gotten money from ukraine. let it all hang out. republican and democrat. let's see. >> sean: release the transcripts,

bill clinton broke a law. he committed a felony. perjury. what our founders decided what that it had to be a high crime. when richard nixon lied on his taxes, also bad, also a crime. the house committee said that's not impeachable. so not all crimes are impeachable. bill clinton's crime wasn't impeachable. >> doug, you point out this process is being viewed through a much more partisan lens than the watergate investigation during the 1970s. what's changed since then? >> well, a lot's changed. when richard nixon was president he did things like create the environmental protection agency and clean air and water. and many republicans got angry at nixon. there became a movement for needing to regulate, the beginning of really libertarian catching hold, the beginning of the conservative movement with ronald reagan. and post-watergate republicans started forming their own organizations and narratives, the business round table, the heritage foundation, the american enterprise institute, you know, fox news, the federalist society. i can go on and on

a lot of members did that with respect to bill clinton.said the relationship he had was not good. the way he spoke about it and lied about it was not good, but are we really going to derail a presidency over something like this? that's more credible and i think has more ability to shape public sentiment. but this president insists that everything he did was perfect and beautiful and that's what everyone else should say too. and that's a problem i think for folks. >> just these other federal court hearings today, one was about former white house counsel don mcgahn, whether he has to testify, the other was about this former deputy national security adviser charles kupperman who's refusing to testify. >> let's talk about this kupperman hearing and let's talk about federal judges. it makes me insane. i admire the federal judiciary a great deal. but here we have an impeachment, perhaps the most important thing the congress can deal with. we have an important witness, charles kupperman, the deputy national security adviser also represented by ch