, is the blm, i have said out of control?'t know what your experience is, how is that going in the state of oregon? >> well, you know, it is really ironic that this issue came to burns, oregon. burns, is almost poster child for well done range management. private and public not because of the actions of radicals but agricultural research center that is located here, oregon state university experiment station, they are world class range scientists working with ranchers here in the community, they did a canada conservation agreement are in sage grouses that was instrumental. you know, the ranchers, and agents here are doing well but this has -- >> do they still let you hunt the sage grouse? >> they are still limited. they are doing well. lou: we have not lost the country yet then, john, i appreciate you taking the time, i -- i tell you, we applaud your efforts in support of hammonds we hope this can have a happy ending it has been a terrible journey, and a awful display for u.s. attorney's office for blm, and for this administr

((michelle fiore/assemblywom an: the blm is nothing more than a bureaucratic bureucracy of terrorism against rural america.)) ((vanessa murphy)) fiore and bundy disagree with the f-b-i's explanation of events.... they say they believe finicum was reaching to cover a wound after he was already shot.... but the special agent in charge says this video tells a different story..... ((fbi: actions have consequences and the fbi and oregon state police tried to affect these arrests peacefully.)) ((brian loftus)) after his ammon... asked supporters to back down and let this play out in court. cliven says he believes his son /// ((patranya bhoolsuwan)) > metro police need help identifying a suspect...after a man was found police say it happened on civic center drive, near cheyenne. they say a group of people were hanging outside an apartment complex when a fight broke out. shots were fired shortly after... and that's when the victim was hit. he was taken to u-m-c where he later died. police are asking people to call crimestoppers with information that could lead to the suspect. /// let's get t

nearly two years after the bundy stand off with the blm, reminders still remain some peope say they dont need reminders... they say cliven bundy needs to pay for his crimes for cliven bundy.... it's business as usual. nats- bull rams even though a group of lawmakers... native american tribes and conservationists are calling for his people are enjoying freedom here terrorists. they are terrorists and they need to be in prison the southern nevada groups petitioned the department of justice to prosecute bundy... his sons and their militia after they took over a wildlife refuge in oregon in early january. bundy- they did something they had to do and it has been extreme but the worlds been listening this is following a similiar stand off in 2014 herein nevada... bundy says that stand off was the peoples fault for giving too much power to the federal government. bundy- ranchers cattle industry this is your damn fault the department of justice has not responded to the petition to go after the bundy family. ... but those in support of prosecuting bundy say theyre tired of the double standard. if

you know, the blm bombings 20 odd years ago and now the bundy situation going on in oregon. i mean, you know, oklahoma city, the list goes and on about domestic terrorism. i have to change the topic here because how can we miss out on sarah palin enter the 2016 cycle? let's put on a show. >> well, you know, i -- when she was the vice presidential candidate, i understood her appeal. you have all of these republican men candidates who are trying to be more strict and more dower and more conservative. and then you've got somebody as lively as sarah palin, whatever you think of what she's saying, and you can understand her appeal. i think it's going to be very donald trump combine. >> twitch syntax. that's what strikes me. "the new york times" actually went through her speech where she was proclaiming she was in favor of donald trump. and some of the things they were able to explain and some they say we just don't understand. >> my college professor hat on. i understand her appeal and, yeah, she's a lively voice but sooner or later the substance does matter and she gets so many

was engaged in a standoff last year with the blm...describes the grpi[ as armed, however wouldn't go so far as to say it is a militia. (ammon bundy, spokesman for protesters) we have no intention on using force or being aggressive or going on the offense. but just as all people have the right to defend themselves, that's exactly what that means. bundy says the protestors plan to stay in burns until the county steps in and offers a safe haven for the two ranchers. an action news update police have arrested two people in connection with the fatal shooting of a california man outside a 24-hour fitness center. authorities say 27-year-old... "kyle staats".... and 19-year-old "megan hippie"... are being held on several charges including first-degree murder. gandler".... was found shot in his vehicle just after 1 a.m. on december 29th outside the 24 hour fitness on rainbow boulevard near alta drive. tense moments for residents in one valley neighborhood near maryland parkway and tropicana this afternoon. metro was called out for a domestic violence call, and when officers arrived a woman ca

hammond.a federal judge convicted the father-son duo of arson after intentionally setting 127 acres of blm on fire nearly a decade ago.the judge sentenced thememto a lesser charge at first, but their case was recently appealed and they were ordered to finish out their fi year mandatory minimum sentence.on saturday bundy his supporters malheur national wildlife refuge saturday and are calling on the federal government to release the land back to local ranchers.sot ammon bundy "statements are not good enough. we intend on gogog to work and assisting the people in harney county in claiming their rights and using their rights as free people."voammon bundy says they have no intention of becoming aggressive, but say if law enforcement shows up with force, they will respond with force.the militiaas they call themselves, restricted accece to the site by blocking driveway and manning a guard tower at the site.law enforcement has converged on harney county in rural eastern oregon.bundy and his supporters say they plan to occupy the refuge for months. in burns, reporting 3 the attorney for dwight ham

the militia has been calling for oregon ranchers to stop paying the blm, like cliven bundy did here in bunkerville an action news update on a former oklahoma city police officer.. accused of sexual assault. 29-year old daniel holtzclaw was sentenced to life in prison today. a judge handed down prison terms totaling 263 years.. after holtzclaw was convicted on 4 counts of first- degree rape and 14 other charges. prosecutors say holtzclaw targeted and sexually assaulted women while on patrol. his defense lawyer is already planning to appeal. former pharmaceutical c-e-o martin shkreli says he has a date with congress. yesterday, he tweeted out a photo of a subpoena asking him to testify before the house committee on oversight and reform on january 26-th. he would be questioned about the prescription drug market. shkreli gained notoriety when an aids drug by some five-thousand percent. he is embroiled in a federal criminal case for alleged securities fraud. some frightening moments at the l-a zoo earlier today when an employee fell into the gorilla enclosure. it happened around 8:30 this m

how the nevada ranchers made famous for a brawl with the blm are calling attention to a situation in oregon. plus.. the powerball prize that has people taking a drive to stateline. your fox5 weather 24/7 forecast is if you need a reason to start celebrating super bowl 50 early - i'll give you two. get a large,1-topping pizza foronly 50 cents when you order any large pizzaat regular menu price. better ingredients. better pizza. better football. papajohns.com live from las vegas. you're watching fox5 news at six. with emmy award winner john huck. christine maddela. and weather 24/7 with chief meteoroligist ted pretty. this is fox5 news at 6 o'clock. local las vegas. it only took three days into this year before a person died walking across the street-- outside of a crosswalk. the crash happened last night near the on durango drive. police say just before 9:30 a woman was hit by a jeep wrangler. investigators say she was not in a marked crosswalk. the driver of the jeep stayed on the scene. after a weeklong search, the body of missing country singer craig strickland was recovered today.

happen is states would sell these lands and for someone like me i wouldn't be able to hunt and fish on blm lands anymore." he's interrupted numerous times by bundy supporters "it's scary being up here. things i'm saying, amongst this crowd, it's difficult to do but someone has to stand up. say we're behind you. we're not behind what's happening now. we're behind dwight and steve - you bet. they're good people. you got on tv and you looked into that lens and you said that the people of burns are behind you." "there are a lot of them who are." "yeah but not "they need to be charged. they need to be proseucted to the fullest extend of the law. tonight a live look outside right now. the valley, but will theses temperatures hang around or could we see some rain in the next couple of days? lets check in with action news meteorologist karla huelga and weather first. karla? a relatively weak storm system will push through the area tonight and will bring slight chances for rain through tomorrow morning. conditions will be dry and mostly clear by sunday afternoon and highs will top out in the low to

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there is family called the ham hammonds who had some burns, and the burns went over into blm land.nd they were sentenced to prison. these people say they are here to support this family. the sheriff says that's a smoke screen. they want to take down local and federal government. that's what the sheriff says. who knows, but we're still watching. >> when the men came out to talk reporters earlier today, were they armed? >> reporter: yes, they were. we have seen lots of guns when they have their press cob for instances, most of them have guns. we know there are children inside. there are women inside. and, really, what they want to do, they say, is take away this federal land and give it back into private ownership. >> carol good to talk to you. armed politics, backing up political disputes with weapons. this time on the program, soaring rhetoric, involving liberty, freedom, personal sovereign soverei sovereignty. but do hear someone talking about defending their liberties differently when they have a semiautomatic weapon slung over their back. these militia groups, groups of this kin

back, after two oregon ranches were convicted of arson for setting a fire that scorched 127 acres of blm land 15 years ago. >> marie: many of you remember the standoff that happened in southern nevada almost two years ago, when suppor agen near bunkerville. that dispute was over federal land bundy used for grazing. than a million dollars in fees, over the grazing. >> jim: a lot of moving parts in this still tonight. we'll have the latest for you can keep track of all the new developments on news3lv.com. >> marie: more breaking news out of the pacific forth west, two people dead, three hurt after shots were fired in a seattle homeless camp known as the jungle. a man and woman were killed in the attack. was random. they believe the victims were targeted. slers say they are trying to find -- investigators are trying to find two persons of interest. >> jim: a developing story here at home. a stolen car, reckless driving, and a police chase. that's what metro says sparked a police shooting this afternoon. they tell us the suspect was armed and pointed the gun at officers, forcing one of them

nearly two years ago on this land during that standoff with blm agents. now he as well as other antigovernment activists will have to decide how they move forward and honor finicum's life. ammon alluded that it would the be through the court system. vicky gonzalez. >> jessica: the memorials are already beginning. community members gathered in oregon tonight to remember lavoy finicum, he was the arizona rancher killed in yesterday's clash. they held a candle-light vigil, honoring finicum, shot and killed during the incident with the f.b.i. finicum's family says the ranct a violent man did, not deserve to die. the family believes finicum was there to stand for freedom. you can catch up on all of our coverage and follow further developments on news3lv.com. >> jim: now, this is one that will make parents furious, two 10-year-olds have guns pulled on them by two men after their school issued i pads. john treanor has that story. >> reporter: it was just a walk to school. sale one they likely make on most days. but on wednesday, it turned violent. two kids on th

you may remember the bundy's were involved in a showdown with the blm ...back in 2014 it started with the roundup of cliven bundy's cattle, after he refused to pay grazing fees. the situation became much more tense with supporters and militia members taking ..what they called... a constitutional stand against federal authority. the b-l-m eventually backed off citing safety concerns...but they're still trying to get bundy to pay those fees through "administrative processes" in tonight's red, white and blue 2016 political coverage. republican presidential candidate... donald trump... making headlines once again. only this time it's not because of something he said... but because of what he is not saying. abc's mary bruce has the latest on the race for the white house. tonight the trump campaign is silent after a terror group use the republic frontrunner to recruit nat: trump in video a new video from the militant group al- shabaab -- al qaeda's affiliate in somalia -- shows trump at a campaign rally the u-s. trump tonight is not responding. but he is defending his controversial propsal

i first thought he was talking about the blm being terrorists.t them from using their own private property. he is saying it is because of their complexion they are being treated the way they are. they having killed anybody, the people occupying illegally. they need to be punished and they should be punished for t hat. i understand and support it. i do not get this. like a satellite, sounded they were ok with them being abused -- it sounded like. that around the country, whether it was -- i am seeing massive amounts of abuse around the country by people whether they are white, black. it is only when people come out and engage in criminal conduct that is a threat to the community that the police get this active. there are a lot of people of color who have violated the law and not suffered any consequence the law, whether it was from looting or other activities. i think this is an over reaction to the skin color. i look forward to the day when people are judged by the content of their character, rather than the color of their skin, when there is no

and from all of us at channel lawsuit over fatal shooting by blm agents near vegas dropped if you're doing everything right but find it harder and harder to get by, you're not alone. while our people work longer hours for lower wages, almost all new income goes to the top 1%. pay their fair share of taxes, provide living wages for working people, ensure equal pay for women. i'm bernie sanders. i approve this message because together, we can make a political revolution and create an economy and democracy that works for all >>> and now abc's "jimmy kimmel live." >> dicky: from hollywood, it's tonight -- zach galifianakis. from "dirty grandpa," and music from weezer.

show that the attorney for tracy meadows, the mother of d'andre berghardt -- who was shot dead by a blm special agent and a ranger -- withdrew from the case. meadows then did not follow up on several hearings to say if she would defend herself or continue with the case. the case be dismissed without prejudice and is giving meadows two weeks to respond. berghardt was shot with a taser four times on february 14-th of 2014 before he was shot. investigators said he had multiple drugs in his system and fought law enforcement officers with super human strength. the man's family maintained that the response was overzealous./// ((dave courvoisier)) > the runnin' rebels are looking to regroup on the road. ((paula francis)) they're going to butt heads with the rams. chris maathuis here to tell us why that is such a headache. ((chris maathuis)) for dave rice it's a migraine headache. he hasn't won at colorado state since he was hired. he knows the challenge ahead.... in fact he tells us what it will take to break the curse. plus.. you'll be shocked to see where ufc's rondy rousey is on the top 10

a federal judge convicted the two of arson after burning 127 acres of blm land in 2001. they are scheduled to report to prison on monday. >> i am going to jail for five years. seems like a bit of an overkill seems like a bit of an overkill. >> reporter: in response bundy called on the militia and held a protest saturday. some traveled as far away as colorado and arizona. and the overwhelming majority are not from oregon. >> we came over here to show our support. >> reporter: under the cover of darkness saturday night, the militia took over the wildlife refuge, a federally owned site. they plan to use it for several months. >> and i will be very clear. we will -- we will not be aggressive. that will be something that we will not be. here we are to -- to defend the people. >> reporter: and law enforcement is nowhere to be found. bundy say it is and when they do show up, they will be ready to respond with force. >> if they did, they would be doing it and putting lives at risk because we are not putting we are not endangering anybody. we are not harming anybody. >> daniel: t

((michelle fiore/assemblywom an: the blm is nothing more than a bureaucratic bureucracy of terrorism against rural america.)) ((vanessa murphy)) fiore and bundy disagree with the f-b-i's explanation of events.... they say they believe finicum was reaching to cover a wound after he was already shot.... but the special agent in charge says this video tells a different story..... ((fbi: actions have consequences and the fbi and oregon state police tried to affect these ((vanessa murphy)) after his arrest, cliven bundy's son ammon asked supporters to back down and to let this play out in court. cliven says he believes his son was pressured to do that. ((dave courvoisier)) vanessa... do we have an update tonight on the standoff at the federal wildlife refuge in burns, oregon? ((vanessa murphy)) dave, the f-b-i says they still hope to reach a peaceful conclusion. they believe there are still four people inside the building -- they are negotiating with them. since the establishment of checkpoints outside the refuge... nine militia members have left. six of them were released and three were

is the first linked to base jumping in the area known as the arizona strip district according to a blm spokesman. >>> time now 4:55. 's drones are more common -- as drones are more common lawmakers are trying to keep them in check. one proposal comes from a state assemblyman mike gotto. the los angeles democrat is calling for all drones to be registered and insured. it would require small license plates on all drones as well as gps and automatic shutoff features to keep them away from airports. >> the technology already exists to slowly bring a drone out of the sky with gps shutoff. these type of applications exist in many other things and the federal government wants to see this with all airports and, of course, the state is responsible for regulating that first 400 feet. we want to make sure if a drone gets anywhere near a commercial flight that there's something on board that shuts that drone off before it gets too close for comfort. >> last summer drones were interfering with crews' efforts to battle some california wildfires. gotto says his proposal would help law enforcement iden

there are ranchers with 100 cows, they are given 20,000 that to control by the blm nobody can go into is given to an individual, not a nation of people. we should have more national refuges. these people are right in their argument but wrong the place they are doing it. it should be done in wyoming and montana where the blm is turning over 20, 30, 50 60,000 acres of land to individuals. there is where the problem is. they would probably have more people following them and joining them on that line if they were doing it when the government is giving land to an individual and not a nation. t understand that and i have asked this before. i have never gotten any kind of an answer other than,we've got to keep the public away from the cows. that is 20,000 acres and denied as an american citizen to use. that is basically owned by me. host: we will let our guest respond. great point. seven out of 10 westerners in the western states support the public lands and support that public lands continue to be under federal control, which means national taxpayers control the lands and have a say in wha

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the militia has been calling for oregon ranchers to stop paying the blm, like cliven bundy did here in bunkerville. local law enforcement has not responded to the groups saying that they will not be leaving. with all the recent shootings across the country, some small businesses here at home are taking precautions... and making sure they're prepared for the worst. with law enforcement, hosted an active shooter training session. these are the three tactics-- run, hide or fight. sot carol ong, mdl group ceo knowledge is power, and to have that in your tool box to have as a resource and to give people answers where to go, and that's what this is all about officials say they wanted to focus on small businesses, since they make up such a large portion of downtown, and also because they can be the most vulnerable to an attack. supporters fighting for a higher minimum wage are trying to get 55 thousand signatures to put their proposal on the november ballot. yesterday, a judge in carson city ruled the measure could move forward. right now, our minimum wage is 8-25 an hour, or 7-25 an hour if

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nearly two years after the bundy stand off with the blm, reminders still remain some peope say they dont need reminders... they say cliven bundy needs to pay for his crimes usual. nats- bull rams even though a group of lawmakers... native american tribes and conservationists are calling for his arrest. bundy- we the people are enjoying freedom here terrorists. they are terrorists and they need to be in prison the southern nevada groups petitioned the department of justice to prosecute bundy... his sons and their militia after they took over a wildlife refuge in oregon in early january. bundy- they did something they had to do and it has been extreme but the worlds been listening this is following a similiar stand off in 2014 herein nevada... bundy says that peoples fault for giving too much power to the government. cattle industry this is your damn fault the department of justice has not responded to the petition to go family. ... but those prosecuting bundy say theyre double standard. were to go into a federal building we would be dead. the constitution is their guide... bundy- but let

the blm attempted to round up bundy's cattle... saying the animals were illegally grazing on public lands for some 20- years and that bundy refused to pay 1- million dollars in fees. the b-l-m eventually backed down after the confrontation led to a standoff with armed bundy supporters. /// ((kirsten joyce)) > today.. senator harry reid will release more details about the "first in the west" caucus dinner. democratic presidential candidates hillary clinton... bernie sanders and martin o'malley will join reid for the event at the m- g-m grand on wednesday. the event comes in preparation on february 20th. nevada will be the first western state and the third state in the country to make its voice heard in the 2016 democratic presidential primary. /// ((brian loftus)) > ces doesn't start until wednesday... but already.. big things are happening at the electronics convention. the startup electric car company, faraday future their concept tonight... they're being pretty tight- lipped about the details.. but say it's inspired by their desi

prosecution of the two ranchers, dwight and steven hammond, after intentionally setting 127 acres of blm land on fire a decade ago. the case was appealed and they were ordered to finish out a 5- year mandatory minimum sentence. on saturday, the militia took over the area saying they are release the land back to the local ranchers. >> statements are not w sgood enough. we intend ongoing to work and assisting the people in claiming their rights, using their rights as free people. >> even though the father and son reported to prison today, ammond bundy said they have no intention of becoming aggressive but if law enforcement shows up with force, they will respond by force. the militia blocked the driveway and manned a guard tower. law enforcement has converged in that area of oregon in the eastern part of the state. bundy and his supporters plan to occupy the refuge for months. >>> time to toss things over to madison corney who is following the snow showers moving into the area. madison some. >>> that's right, shelby. we saw snow flurries in western nevada and in the last hour, of rain and

the blm backed away from the stand-off...citing safety concerns. up next... president obama is taking on gun control. and it's leading to a firestorm of comments from the presidential hopefuls.... you'll hear the harsh words they have for the commander in-chief. pressure with a trailing cold front sits just off the coast of san diego; just to the northeast centered around the utah/colorado border, is an area of high pressure. both systems are helping to filter in and amplify the mid and upper level moisture within the southwest. at the same time, these two system are breaking down our stability and bringing in sufficient lift for shower production and that is what for today but also tonight, tuesday, tuesday night, wednesday, wednesday night, thursday, thursday night, and even friday! light to moderate showers will be common the entire work week so please pack the umbrella, rain coats and weather the sweaters too! high temperatures through the week and into the weekend will be in the low and mid 50s with lows in the upper 30s and lower 40s. potential for snow

in april of 2014, the blm moved in on bundy's cattle and the land he used in bunkerville.... because he owed frazing fees. bundy refused to leave and there was an armed standoff...and the b-l-m backed down./// ((kirsten joyce)) > new this morning.. state auditors say cabs in las vegas are overcharging customers by 47- million dollars a year. auditors say the 3- dollar credit card processing fee is excessive and should be no more than 90- cents. they also criticized the authority for approving rate hikes.. despite decreasing gas prices. nevada auditors recommend abolishing the taxicab authority.. which regulates cabs in clark county. state leaders say the nevada transportation authority or clark county leaders could regulate, instead.// demetria, how are the roads this morning? demetria obilor windmill along the south beltway. north beltway pretty quiet right now. accident on desert inn and jones. delays on southbound i-15 at us 95 in the spaghetti bowl. < > < > back to you! ((kirsten joyce)) > traveling with your pup.. could get a lot more stressful... ((brian loftus)) the ch

conservation group "ultimately what states would sell these lands and for wouldn't be able to hunt and fish on blm lands anymore." he's interrupted numerous times by "it's scary being up saying, amongst this crowd, it's someone has to what they're doing is bullying people." a burns resident walks up to bundy we're behind you. we're not behind what's happening now. we're behind dwight and steve - you bet. they're good people. you got on tv and you looked into that lens and you said that the people of burns are behind you." "there are a lot of them who are." "yeah but not a majority as he claims." as we finish the first week of occupation...the community is divided. "they need to be charged. they need to be proseucted to the fullest extend of the law. and still no word on what the fbi will do. "because the more we enable them...the more they will do this. up next supporting law enforcement... "please support these people. they work so hard and the reason we have freedom we do is because of our police department." who turned out for a big event today to say thank you to our local police officers. a w

the maliciousa led by amen bundy federal judge convicted the duo of arson after burning 127 acres of blm land in 2001. they are going to jail today. >> i'm going to jail five years for 127. seemed like a bit of overcast. >> group held a protest saturday some traveled as far away as colorado and arizona. overwhelm being majority are not from oregon. >> come to show the support. >> saturday night maliciousa took over wildlife refuge, >> i will be very clear, we will not be aggressive. something we will not be. we are here to defend the people. >> so far law enforcement nowhere to be found and bundy says if and when they do show up they will be ready to respond with forces. >> if they did, they would be putting lives at risk because we are not putting anybody at risk right now. we are not endangering anybody, we are not harming anybody. lawyer for the ranchers say they do not condone actions of maliciousa and do not want their help and want a peaceful solution. in the newsroom, i'm daniel miller, fox25 news. >> president obama starting the new year with potential executive order on gun cont

in april of 2014, the blm moved in on bundy's cattle and the land he used in bunkerville.... because he owed frazing fees. bundy refused to leave and there was an armed standoff...and the b-l-m backed down./// there's been another crash on rancho by decatur. accident on desert inn and jones and desert inn and maryland parkway. < > < > ((sherry swensk)) damp air this morning... and clouds are now clearing and shifting east after yesterday's good soaking. we've got cool 40s and high humidity. ............... we picked up between a tenth and two-tenths of an inch of rain on the west and southwest sides of the valley. ................. today we'll start to dry out and eventually clear out the clouds to have a mostly sunny day. highs should make it to near 60 for most neighborhoods. ............ 60s hang on through the weekend. more clouds arrive friday and saturday, but afternoons and it took joel silverman years to become a master dog trainer. but only a few commands to master depositing checks at chase atms. technology designed for you. >>> good morning to our viewers in the we

a father son team ranchers have been convicted of arson for burning 127 acres of blm territory back in 2001. now a person protesting on their behalf is son of bundy, he is involved in the protest for the father and son ranchers in oregon. now the prison sentences have been handed down to the ranchers and bundy and others don't agree with them. saturday night the militia took over the wildlife refuge which is owned by the federal government in oregon and plan to use it for several months. now the f.b.i. and this group appear to be locked in somewhat of an ideology over who controls this building in eastern oregon. >> when government steps outside of their bounds the people have given it, it is the duty of the people to put that government back in its place. >> going to jail for five years for 127, seems like a bit of an overkill. >> we will not be aggressive. that will be something that we will not be. we are here to defend the >> reporter: back here live you heard from bundy and one of the accused set for a prison sentence saying they don't agree with the prison sentence and they will

you had grazing rights, to congressman walden said, ranchers do that all of the time, sometimes the blmt notifying the owner when they did a backfire on private property. i mean, how do you feel about the lack of justice in this case? >> it is nothing new. that's how it is. when you live out in the far lands of eastern oregon. when the majority of the land is government land, and majority of the people work for the government. lou: and to those who don't know watching this right now in oregon that number rising above half of the land in oregon. is federal land. across the west. most states, about half of -- it rises to 80% in a state like nevada. is there anyway, chris, for the family, community to come together with congressman greg walden, a democratic senator ron wyden, we could not even get a call back from these people, as mrs. hammond as your husband and your son are taken off to prison after having already served time in prison for the offense. what can be done here? chris in. >> we can keep fighting, we have to do something, we have to ask your elected officials to help us out,

after burning 127 acres of blm land in 2001. prison monday. "i'm going to jail for five bundy called on the militia and are not from oregon. "we came over here to show our support." under the cover of several months. "i will be very clear, we will not be aggressive. that is something we will not be. we are here to defend the people." and law enforcement is no where to be found. bundy says if and when they do show up.. they will be ready to respond w wh force. "if they did, they would be doing it and will be putting we are not harming anyone." chris liedle reporting. a lawyer for the hammonds say they do not want help from bundy's group. members of a north carolina church are giving extra thanks after a potential tragedy turned into a moment of celebration. during a new year's eve service in fayetteville -- an armed man walked in. the pastor - who is also a city councilman and a retired soldier - says he asked the man to hand over his rifle as he began to pray and asked "when i told the congregation, 'it's ok, he wants prayer,' and i began to p

very understandable the feelings of frustration that many of the ranchers in the west have with the blmhat's the bureau of land management, right? >> yes, that's correct. and the overreach of the federal government in western properties, i think is -- is well-known by many. the frustration, i think is real, and i think it's understandable. however, i think in this case, mr. bundy, and those that are with them, have made a very' egregious mistake. they were not invited into this situation. >> right. >> by the hammonds. they have accepted their sentence, which i understand begins today. and i think that the men should recognize that they really do not have a dog in this fight, and they should -- they should pull out, and not allow any escalation of tensions, over something that i think is -- is frankly none of their business at this point. >> wow. okay. so what does ammon bundy mean when he says we want the u.s. government to remove its unlawful presence in this country? beyond whether what they are doing today is proper or improper, what does that statement mean? what is the frustration

in the north you can see that dark plu, blm purpose there because nits could cold. the kind of temperatures we're expecting minus 13. that's a maximum temperature, but with a wind chill it won't fael that win. a minus 28, but many people refer to farenheit and that will be minus 18 in foreign might. at winnipeg minus 23 and with the wind chill feels like minus 34 >>> u.s. air force b52 bomber has been on a low-level flight over south korea days after north korea announced a bomb test. the disappearance of five book publishers in hong kong has provoked a mass march. the xhi niece government is not confirming the missing men are being detained in xhin a. the missing men are connected to a shop on political books on the former leaders. >> reporter: the demonstration has ended here where the thousands of demonstrators have been file itting past aattaching yellow ribbons to the par indicateds. they braupgt here demands and fears, demands to the book sellers get released immediately and also the one country, two systems set up by which hong kong is guaranteed under law a

the blm office is completely shut down. it is having an impact in this town, and in many ways have split this community. a lot of folks support the basic causes. they are not so sure about the tactics of taking over here. >> thank you allen. and on the phone now is ammon bundy. he is the leader of the occupation. he is on the telephone. ammon, how long do you plan to stay? >> we plan on staying until the job gets done. >> years? is that what you are planning on still? >> well, again, until the job gets done. >> i saw some children in this -- during your press conference today in the area, and i saw some -- some women as well in the video that we just showed. aren't you concerned that if this does escalate and becomes a -- a difficult situation that those women and children could be in danger? >> they were at the press conference, so i do not know -- i believe they were ranchers, local ranchers here that came to listen to the press conference. so i'm not sure where you are leading to that. >> i'm not sure whether you have wo

in 2011, the blm reported it took an average of 370 days to gasove of new ooil and permits. that is when permits to get approved. the obama administration has put a cease and desist on all new permits for coal. that is what actually happens. when we combine this backlog with all the federal lands considered off-limits by the federal government, is there any surprise that states like utah are languishing under this federal regulation and not producing as much? we have to ask ourselves the question -- what if the federal government loses its grip and we have the opportunity to use these lands? an economics professor at the university of wyoming has the answer. proposes13 study, he three scenarios based on the amount of oil and gas wells, permits as well as the economic impacts it will happen the federal government were to approve these. a high, medium and low scenarios as you can see. themedian scenario -- approval of permits would go back to the original levels they were at the fourth 2008. there was a huge shift in the amount of permits being approved. we see a huge increase

the blm tried to collect grazing fees. they were divided over breaking laws to make political points. >> i don't agree with what's going on, the way it went on, and don't agree with what's going on with the government. the way they take care of our land. >> those guys need to go handle their issues. i will thank them. if nothing else, they gave a lot of the good people a voice. >> reporter: residents agree it's up to them to take on the fight over land rights. lou? lou: dan, thank you very much, dan springer reporting throughout this standoff from burns, oregon. >>> we're coming right back with a lot, lot more on economies, on market, on the middle east and, of course, politics in washington, d.c., such as they are. stay with us. . >>> mr. obama appeases enemies and isolates allies. will his reckless policies in the middle east lead to all-out war? foundation for defense of democracies john hannah joins us here next. >>> and in drought-stricken california, they've been praying for rain for years. their prayers finally answ

is the first linked to base jumping in the area known as the arizona strip district according to a blmnes rapidly become more common, lawmakers are rushing to come up with ways to regulate them. one proposal comes from a state assemblyman mike gotto. the los angeles democrat is calling for all drones to be registered and insured. it would require small license plates on all drones as well as gps and automatic shutoff features to keep them away from airports. >> the technology already exists to slowly bring a drone out of the sky with gps shutoff. these type of applications exist in many other things and the federal government wants to see this with all airports and, of course, the state is responsible for regulating that first 400 feet. we want to make sure if a drone gets anywhere near a commercial flight that there's something on board that shuts that drone off before it gets too close for comfort. >> last summer drones were interfering with crews' efforts to battle some california wildfires. gotto says his proposal would help law enforcement identify drone operators. >>> there's a n

>> i don't know that blm study didn't break it down.t just had that 307 days total for all permits regardless of which state it was in, so i don't have the answer for you utah specific. >> i have a question right here. >> myron ebel, competitive enterprise institute. i read your legal report. it's great, and it's very convincing. i would like to ask you another legal aspect, though, about the federal lands, which is the assertion by the federal land managers that they have police power on the federal lands, this seems to me to be a huge problem, and it's a growing problem and their police power to me seems to be -- their claim seems to me to be illegitimate, and i wonder if you discussed that and also perhaps discuss how the state of utah might somehow reassert its own police powers on the federal lands through the state legislature and the governor's office. >> probably in my court. okay. good question. you know, the case that the federal government is always going to for property clause issues is clepe versus new mexico where they wro

i think it's important for -- i think it's not a defense of the blm or the absurdity of the federal land holdings of the west of this country to say if these guys want to change this they need to go through a series of political steps, not just at the point of a gun. they have a legitimate right to protest and air their grievances, if this gets loud and folks die on both sides of the equation, it's not good for the republic. >> what should law enforcement do in this situation? >> i think they need to wait them out. there's in reason to provoke a con front facing. the bundy clan will eventually leave and when they do i think they should be arrested. >> joy, that's not what happened last time. >> not only were they not arrested but cliven bundy's $1 million that they still owed, the federal government has not enforced that. >> they're pursuing it in civil actions in federal court but it's like a bill collector chasing somebody. >> and what lesson have they indeed taught the malitia movements which have multiplying throughout the country. they've taught them there's a reward or no penalty f

blm still did not listen. we continue to push it. they argued back. a second rancher brought this to my attention and they were told they had to go to a fence when the government was supposed to under the law i wrote. -- the arrogance of the agency was such that they said we do not agree with you. there are not many times when you can say, i know what the intent of a law was. in this case, i could because i wrote the law. i knew the intent. that was not good enough. the arrogance of these agency people was such that we had to go to the archives and drag out 2000, 1999-2000, when we wrote this law, to talk about the intent and our retired member george miller, we used some of his information where he said the government would provide the fencing. they were still reluctant to follow it. we put language in the appropriations bill that restated the federal law. do you understand how frustrated i am with this? can you imagine how the people on the ground feel? can you imagine? if you are not there, you cannot . if you are not there, you cannot. you will ri