>> yes, i mean, fort bragg is where bermeister was based.very base has a problem with white supremacy because they are allowed to act freely. they do not address it unless they're confronted with a national scandal like oak creek. page is not alone in that needs to be emphasized. during my investigations, i went to tampa, florida to interview a neo-nazi veteran of iraq. his resume reads exactly the same as page. rock band, a neo-nazi, a veteran, a member of the hammerskin nation, the most violent skinhead group in the country, much like page. he told me about his experience in iraq was instructive. he said, basically, the command about his radicalism. they knew -- he said, they can see my tattoos. this is not a problem that is specific to certain bases critic for bragg does have a serious problem, but it is all over the united states. it was all over iraq and afghanistan. the point must be made that games are another huge issue, especially at the bases along the border with mexico because involved withlvein vomit with trafficking drugs and g

but we wanted to focus on fort bragg because fort bragg, as you said, produced a lot of heroes, thousands and thousands of heroes. but back in 1995, it had a mark on it, on that fort, because there was the murder of a black couple outside the base, anderson. three soldiers identified as neo-nazi skin heads were caught and convicted of that crime. they basically just picked their victims for one reason. they wanted to kill blacks. the army came under fire because it was very obvious that these soldiers were nero nazis. one of them even had what was described as a nazi shrine where he was living. that led to a crackdown by the army on trying to weed out racists in the ranks and about two dozen soldiers were kicked out. the army found there were threads of a subculture of hate in its ranks. and they've had to, you know, address that over the years. >> did that sub culture involve wade michael page? and is this where his racist views began? do we know at this point? >> there's been a lot of ink written about this just over the last few days trying to put these dots together. it was about the

he worked in psychological operations, as last edition of fort bragg, north carolina.on monday, the southern poverty law center revealed page was connected to the white supremacist movement and a member of two white power bands named and apathy and definite hate. the southern poverty law center described him as a "frustrated neo-nazi who the leader of a racist white power band." according to a profile in the "milwaukee journal sentinel," he used the phrase "dirt people close >> to describe people who were not white. he lost his job as a truck driver after five years. he lost his home when it was foreclosed by wells fargo. wade michael page have been on the radar for the fbi for several years. teresa carlson said he did not present an obvious threat. >> we did not have an active investigation on him prior to yesterday. >> [unintelligible] >> there may be references to him in various files, and those are being analyzed right now, but we have no reason to believe, as far as i know, no law enforcement agency had no idea he was planning are capable of such violence. >> to t

this is near fort bragg by the way. 2000, 2003, 2004. he worked at that shop. but his boss fired him. and i want you to listen to why. he told us this guy had no respect for woman. >> the thing i remember mostly about him was the way he dressed. he dressed, in my opinion, just like the neo nazi-type person would dress. and he was very quiet. kept to himself. was very efficient worker. but then he changed a little bit. he could not interact with females. and he had a problem with female authority. and he had such a problem that i started writing him up. and then eventually put him on probation and then we eventually terminated him because he just refused to take any orders from any female. >> and his supervisor was a female. john tew says that when page left, anderson, he actually left behind an application to join the ku klux klan. he came back for it and he had already thrown it in the trash. we also know he was fired from a truck company after he was cited for driving while impaired. anderson? >> drew, appreciate that update. joining us now is t.j. lie done a

. >> his belief in white power is tattooed all over his body but back at fort bragg you cannot tell by looking at him. >> he did not have the tattoos while he was in the army. >> he was not shy about sharing his views. >> he would often mention the racial holy war that was coming. >> he started identifying with the neo-nazi movement while in the army. he taught african-american soldiers got preferential treatment. >> he told me at one point, if you join the military and you are not aist, you will be by the time you leave. >> the fbi had identified hundreds of veterans involved in incidents. small numbers of white supremacists have infiltrated most parts of the military to. while he was at fort bragg, three soldiers were caught and convicted of murdering a black couple outside of the state's theory is all or identified as a neo-nazi skinheads. fact >> this is a former marine and skinhead that says some military units ignored racism. >> used to hang a swastika. everyone in my unit knew it. the only time asked me to take the dow was with a commanding general came through. >> that is not t

bragg. ft. bragg produced a lot of heroes. thousands and thousands of heroes. it had a mark on that fort because there was a murder of a black couple outside the base, anderson. three soldiers identified as neo nazi skin heads were caught and convicted of that crime. they basically just picked their victims for one reason. they wanted to kill blacks. the army came under fire because it was very obvious that these soldiers were neo nazis. one of them even had what was described as a nazi shrine where he was living. that lead to a crack down by the army trying to weed out racists in the ranks. about two doz b soldiers were kicked out. and the army found there were threads of a subculture of hate in its ranks and they've had to address that over the years. >> did that subculture involve wade michael page? is that where his racist views began? do we know at this point? >> there's been a lot of ink written about this just over the last few days trying to put these dots together. it was about the same time frame that wade michael page was at ft. bragg. but we actuall

bragg, you couldn't tell by looking at him."he didn't have the tattoos when he was in the army."fellow soldier and friend chris robillard says page wasn't shy about sharing his views, and ranted against non-white people."he would often mention the racial holy war that was coming."a criminologist who nterviewed page said he started identifying with the new-nnzi movement while he was in the army, because he thought african-american soldiers got preferential treatment. "specifically, what he told me at one point was that, 'if you join the military, and you're not a racist, then you certainly will be by the time you leave.'"well before pictures like this were posted on facebook, the fbi had identified huudreds of veterans involved in white supremacist incidents. and federal investigators say small numbers of white supremacists have infiltrated most parts of the military. while page was at ft. bragg in 1995, three soldiers were caught and convicted of murdering a black couple outside the base. all were identified as neo-nazi skinheads. the army cracked down on racists in the ranks and

bragg and ft.and then we started seeing them working with branches of the military like the navy and the marine corps. and i know it was a growing problem then. we saw these individuals working together across country and now internationally. i can only imagine with the lack of, i guess response that we got then, that the problem today is even worse. >> i want to read to you what you said in the '06 report, and i'm queegt here. "recruiters are knowingly allowing neo-nazis and white supremacists to join the armed forces and commanders don't remove them from the military, even after we positively identify them as extremists or gang members." that's a very strong statement. i mean, what was your evidence for that? and it sounds like you do think it's still happening. >> we -- i should say i interviewed -- i think the number was a little over 300 individuals over the six years that i was there. some of the soldiers that i interviewed specifically told me recruiters would help them cover up tattoos or h

but we wanted to focus on fort bragg because fort bragg, as you said, produced a lot of heroes, thousandsheroes. but back in 1995, it had a mark on it, on that fort, because there was the murder of a black couple outside the base, anderson. three soldiers identified as neo-nazi skin heads were caught and convicted of that crime. they basically just picked their victims for one reason. they wanted to kill blacks. the army came under fire because it was very obvious that these soldiers were nero nazis. one of them even had what was described as a nazi shrine where he was living. that led to a crackdown by the army on trying to weed out racists in the ranks and about two dozen soldiers were

while page was at fort bragg in 1995 three soldiers were kougt murdering a black soldier.y were neonazi skin heads. they kicked out dozens of soldiers. the problem goes beyond one base. >> every military installation you have two or three active neonazi organizations. he's a former marine and skin head who says some military units ignore overt racism. >> i hung a swastika flag on my wall locker. the only time they asked me to take it down is when the commanding general came through so they wouldn't get in trouble. >> that's not to say that's the case across the board. in his brother's unit, his brother's commander took an extremely hard line on why power and any sort of racist propaganda and would crack down on it immediately. the military has strict rules in this regard. sometimes it comes down to how much the individual commander is going to enforce them. >> chris lawrence, thank you for that report. as chris mentioned, the pentagon has a zero tolerance policy for racist hate groups. it doesn't mean individuals are slipping in. should the military do more to present it.

he was last stationed at fort bragg. the details of his discharge were not immediately clear. >> ultimately, the problem comes down to gun-control. i do not know how many lives it will take before something is done. the matter who the person is, if they did do not have access to guns, hopefully the violence will not be as much as we see today. we have seen this in months before, it has happened time again. someone has to be serious and do something about it. >> yesterday, the morning prayers were beginning at 11:30. this took place at 10:30 as people were coming to the temple? >> yes, the morning session begins early. people on get there around 8:00, they prepare for the services. the main crowd comes down at around 11:00, and then that goes until 2:00. we were lucky that it was not that crowded. it could've been worse. >> how did people describe him? >> people are describing him pulling into the parking lot and beating to shoot. he shot two people in the parking lot and then went into the praying room in the temple, sho

we do know that one of the stops was the time he spent in fort bragg north carolina.gating when he was in fort bragg, what his service has entailed. what have you found about his time in the military? >> well, it was not stellar, we'll tell you that in a little bit. but we wanted to focus on fort bragg produced a lot of heros. thousands and thousands. but back in 1995, it had a mark on that fort because there was a murder of a black couple outside the base, anderson. three soldiers identified as neo nazi skin heads were caught and kwikted of that crime. they wanted to kill blacks. the army came under fire because it was very obvious that these soldiers were neonazis. that lead to a crack down by the army trying to weed out racists in the ranks. and the army found there were threads of a

back at fort bragg you could not tell looking at it. >> he did not have the tattoos while in the army. >> fellow soldiers and friend said he was not shy about sharing his views. >> he would often mentioned the racial holy war that was coming. >> he started identifying with the neo-nazi group while he was in the army because he thought african- american soldiers got preferred treatment. >> specifically what he told me a one. was that if you join the military if you are not a racist who will be by the time you leave. >> before pictures like this with us on facebook, the fbi had identified military members and called it was a privacy acts. three soldiers were caught and convicted of murdering a a black couple outside of the base. the army kicked out dozens of soldiers but the problem goes way beyond one base. >> in every major military installation, you have acted neo-nazi organizations tried to recruit personnel. >> this former marine and skinhead says some military units ignored the racism. >> i used to hang a swastika and everyone in my unit all its my commander knew. dealers have eve

bragg, north carolina. army said page was discharged in 1998, after being demoted from sergeant to specialist and deemed ineligible for re-enlistment. his stepmother, laura page, told abc news tonight that the arm changed the young man she knew growing up in texas. >> i don't know if the military was good for him. i don't know. i wish i had some answers. and we're not going to have those answers now because he's dead. >> reporter: page appears to have moved to the milwaukee area this year. the neighbors say he was not very friendly. >> on a scale of 1 to 10, about a 1.5. >> reporter: federal officials say page bought the pistol used in the rampage just eight days earlier. >> if we did everything right, there's nothing i can do to change it. >> reporter: the changes came after he lost his job. today, they lowered the flag in respect. >> this isn't the kind of thing that gets cooked up in back rooms with large groups of white men. what we're seeing, apparently, is lone wolf terrorism. >> reporter: some of the

bragg, north carolina.y said page was discharged in 1998, after being demoted from sergeant to specialist and deemed ineligible for re-enlistment. his stepmother, laura page, told abc news tonight that the army changed the young man she knew growing up in texas. >> i don't know if the military was good for him. i don't know. i wish i had some answers. and we're not going to have those answers now because he's dead. >> reporter: page appears to have moved to the milwaukee area just this year. where neighbors said he was not very friendly. >> on a scale of 1 to 10, about a 1.5. >> reporter: federal officials say page legally bought the pistol he used in his rampage just eight days earlier. >> if we did everything right, there's nothing i can do to change it. know what i mean? >> reporter: the purchase came shortly after he lost his job at an area metal works company. today employees at the firm lowered the flag to half staff out of respect for the victims. >> this isn't the kind of thing anymore that gets coo

discharged six years later for a drinking problem, ending his military career in north carolina at fort bragg. federal agents today searched a north carolina house where page lived for half of last year. a neighbor said he made antisemitic comments. he racked up an arrest record mostly for drunk driving. a neighbor who lived nearby in suburban milwaukee said page recently broke up with his girlfriend but never expressed racist views. one tatoo was related to the 9/11 attacks. >> i think it was on the shoulder with the 9/11 tatoo and was circular and said in respect for all the people who lost their lives in 9/11. >> fbi investigators say they believe he was on his own when he opened fire sunday. >> right now we don't have any reason to believe there was anyone else associated with this shooting. >> but it's a reminder the fbi says that violent hate groups remain a threat. investigators say page bought the single hand gun he used in the shooting about a week ago but they say why he attacked that temple remains a mystery. brian? >> pete williams along with john yang starting us off tonight on t

you're not coming home to fort bragg to large bases to the regime or what not. you're coming home on your own. he wasn't the 18-year-old that enlisted, he was a noble and had a lot of adjusting to do. >> is it easy to lose the quality? >> we've just seen a disturbing incident and devotee of the marine urination over the devotee of them body. >> does that surprise you? >> i've been commenting on it. it didn't fully surprise me, because the bombs have gotten dirtier and more precise and they remain invisible in and out of the population. our rules of engagement in the decade of fighting with counterinsurgency operations have become tight, much more constricted so with the soldiers and marines can do on the ground in terms of bringing in airstrike is much more limited. so under the titles they sometimes feel like their hands are tied. that is the terms the use. they crumble. so if they cannot have revenge against the living, they may do it against the dead. one of my students a former marine said it isn't uncommon that you will have bodies at your feet and your wai

a veteran who once served at least some of his service time at fort bragg.h milwaukee, which is a suburb of the city of milwaukee. recently in terms of the police investigation in the last several hours have been tracing wade's movements. >> trying to find out what the motive may have been. that's where we're going back 24, 48 hours seeing what he may have been involved in, some of the things he may be doing to rye examine determine what his motive may have been for this shooting. >> in regard to his current residence, that duplex where police have been spending over -- spent time overnight searching his apartment, neighbors, who were asked to leave their homes, have been allowed to move back in. again, they've been searching that particular duplex which was recently rented, extentsively searching it. we're starting to get some of the names of the six victims killed at the hand of wade michael paige. one was the president of the sikh temple. as we understand it, was attempting to tackle paige as he entered the room and firing the gun. essentially trying to p

the gunman served 1992-1998 he finished his tour at fort bragg north carolina he was discharged for " patterns of misconduct " he was a psychological operations specialist when he left the military ... agents did not reveal the name of the person of interest is reportedly caught on video watching police conduct their investigation on the scene after the shooting ... people were shot inside and outside of the sikh temple ... police attending to victims outside were ambushed the officer was shot at close range between eight and nine times he was 51 years old he was with the department for over 20 years and the officer remains in critical condition another officer was wounded ... witnesses reported that the shooter had a september 11th tattoo on his arm five men and one women were killed inside the temple ... officials here are trying to reassure this community that they are on top of this investigation >>oak creek wisconsin is secure the people here the people in the state and the people of this nation ought to know that we are continuing to do everything we can do in our power and beyo

[laughter] mary laura bragg. >> i don't get introduction? >> i already introduced you. what do you want me to say? mary laura bragg, a famous person from florida. [laughter] >> that i am the cleanup hitter. thank you for the opportunity to be a part of this discussion. i was on the team that wrote florida's policy, 1008.25 come as you pointed out, and i was the person responsible for implementing it in the florida. i am a high school district teacher and i've witnessed firsthand the vacant stare of a 10th grader when the student is asked to read out loud or discuss something that they have read. i've been a recipient of victims of social promotions. our foundation, the foundation for excellence in education, has worked with many of the states that have in the past year worked to tackle this problem of k-3, free k-3 reading. the foundation today, was not around when governor bush and the florida legislature began crafting this policy. but we did craft it around three points of research that existed in the early 2000. that 75% of students reading poorly at nine years old

[laughter] mary laura bragg. >> i cannot get an introduction? [laughter] >> i already introduced you. what do you want me to say? mary laura bragg, a famous person from florida. >> i am the cleanup hitter. thank you for giving me the opportunity to be a part of this discussion. i was the person responsible for the implementing the policy in florida. i have witnessed firsthand the vacant stare of a 10th-grader when that student is asked to read out bloud. i have been a recipient of victims of social promotion. the foundation for education has worked for many of the states that have in the past year worked to tackle this problem of pre-k-3 reading. winking dropouts to reading skills was not around och when the governor began to craft this policy. we did craft this iran research that existed in the early 2000's. 70 per fight -- 75% would continue to struggle, that 80% of kids and identified with a disability are struggling readers because they have not learned how to read, and the work that was published in the 2000 national reading panel report. t

bragg were caught and convicted of the crime. they were found to be skinheads.he army came under a lot of criticism because basically they were very open about it. one of the soldiers had basically a white power shrine in his living quarters. and so the army began a pretty big crackdown. kicked about two dozen soldiers out of the army looking for this. but they found a real subculture. and even though there was that crackdown, back in around 2005, 2006, when the military really had trouble recruiting with the war in iraq going so strong, they loosened their standards. and they started issuing moral waivers. and really what the fbi found was that sort of increased the number of white supremacists in the military. there were several reports that found that there was, you know, everything from washing out in basic training to white supremacists who made it all the way into special operations forces, carol. >> it's just curious. why would -- i mean, these white supremacists are anti-government, right? so why would they join the military? >> it's a great question. bu

bragg, you couldn't tell by looking at him. >> he didn't have the tattoos when he was in the army. >>iend says page wasn't shy about sharing his views and ranted against nonwhite people. >> he would often mention the racial holy war that was coming. >> reporter: a criminologist who interviewed page said he started identifying with the neonazi movement while he was in the army because he thought african-american soldiers got pre preferential treatment. >> he said if you join the military and you're not a racist, then you certainly will be by the time you leave. >> reporter: well before pictures like this were posted on facebook, the fbi had identified hundreds of veterans involved in white supremacist incidents. and federal investigators say small numbers of white supremacists infiltrated most parts of the military. while page was in ft. bragg in 1995, three soldiers were caught and convicted of murdering a black couple outside the base. all were identified as neonazi skinhea skinheads. the army cracked down on racists in the ranks and kicked out dozens of soldiers. the problem goes wa

shooter, identified as 40-year-old wade michael page a former army sergeant once stationed at fort bragg and the former leader of a skin-head rock brand. police holding a news conference describing what happened in the moments before page was put down by police. >> the officer was shot eight to nine times at this incident at very close range with a handgun. at that point other officers were arriving on scene and heard those gunshots, were not aware that the other officer had been shot. they took up a position and did observe the suspect in the parking lot walking, and at that point began to give him demands, as far as dropping his weapon and putting his hands up. >> reporter: rick leventhal joins us live with more. >> reporter: the press conference ending within the last hour. the f.b.i. also spoke calling this a senseless act of violence and a possible act of domestic terrorism. the f.b.i. says there was one, only one shooter but they are looking nor someone else. we want to give you another look at wade michael page. as you mentioned a 40-year-old army veteran who served six years as a

bragg were prosecuted for murdering a black couple right around the time that wade got there.reforming its policies on extremism in the ranks. there are a lot of things that contribute to this. but, you know, one thing that we really have to keep in mind is that extremists are often explicitly interested in joining the military because they get training that they can use later. you know, if you're somebody that has that inclination, there have been some discussions among leaders of some of these groups that their followers should join the army to get trained. in addition to that, you know, i talked to some veterans. and i hear different things from different people. some say that there's not a massive problem. others have expressed concern to me about what they have seen in the rachks. -- ranks. and the military is a massive operation like the u.s. population, there are going to be some people who are problems. >> jm burger, appreciate it. thank you so much. >> thank you. >>> and we will be back in a moment. you're watching "starting point." >>> ahead on "starting point," at o

ford bragg, carolina and is a happy camper to make sure and we wish the best of luck with your command. [applause] >> thank you, sir. your favorite bad in b.c. as military leader, i am thankful for that. thank you. >> well done. >> this weekend on american history tv the turning point of the civil war was gettysburg or the seven day battle for richmond? >> in a broad sweep of the conflict george mcclellan's failure and robert e. lee's emergence as a successful field commander marked a decisive moment in the eastern feeder that in turn profoundly shaped the larger direction of the conflict. >> professor gary gallagher on the june 18, '62 battles -- 1862 battles that drove the army from the capital. key political figures that ran for president and lost. change political history. >> i would remind you that extremism in defense of liberty is no life. >> arizona senator barry goldwater. the 1964 republican candidate who lost to lbj at 7:30 eastern and pacific. american history on the c-span2. >> we did not begin as a city in kentucky. there was only a vague native american region and later

bragg. he says basically that page did talk about this a lot, that he talked about a racial holy war, a revolution that was coming, said some really nasty things about minorities. but he said also one of the things that really jumped out at him was that he didn't seem like the type that was going to hurt people. he said, you know, i thought it was just talk. he didn't seem like he was actually going to do anything. quite honestly, if he was saying these things in the mid-90s and this crime happens 14, 15 years later, hard to believe anyone could have really seen that coming. >> excellent point, absolutely. chris lawrence at the pentagon, thank you so much. we will be right back. [ kimi ] atti and i had always called oregon home. until i got a job in the big apple. becoming a fulltime indoor cat wasn't easy for atti. but he had purina cat chow indoor. he absolutely loved it. and i knew he was getting everything he needed to stay healthy indoors. and after a couple of weeks, i knew we were fin