what took so long between briefing administrator johnson and miss brita in may 2011? >> chairman mica, we investigated a number of individuals. we interviewed individuals. we turned over every stone. and every time we turned over a stone we found 50 more with all sorts of things crawling out from under -- >> but you never published a report. but in june, after providing that briefing to miss brita and administrator johnson, you -- somehow the gsa chief, mr. robinson -- michael robinson yesterday, who was before the ogr committee, informed kimberly harris, the white house counsel, about the investigation going on. were you aware of that? >> i was not aware of that. >> you were not aware of it. it was interesting that back in may you advised administrator johnson to get a handle on the regional commissioner neeley's -- this is may of 2011. on rc's travel. the regional commissioner neeley's travel. is that correct? >> chairman mica, i did brief administrator johnson on the interim report -- >> but did you tell them to get a handle on his travel expenditures? >> i told th

brita, who did neely report to? everything is getting blamed on neely because he's pleaded the fifth. i want to know who he reported to. >> jeff neely had two reporting streams. one was to the regional administrator and then a separate reporting requirement to the commissioner of the public building service. so he had 2w0 people who reported to. . >> and there was no regional administrator, correct? >> at that time, he was acting in both capacities. >> in that position, who did he report to? he reported himself in one hand. >> as acting regional administrator, he also reported to steve leads who was senior accountant to the administrator. so he had jeff -- reported to bob and then he reported to steve leads. once ruth cox was reported, he then reported to her and stopped reporting to steve leads. >> do you agree with that, mr. peck, yes or no? >> yes, sir. >> so he was a direct report? >> it's not a -- there's not a -- in gsa organization chart, there's not a direct report between the regional commissioners to the p

>> we started in earnest when miss brita brought the complaint forward. you do have to understand that there are a lot of documents to go through. part of the problem is that the funds came from different sources as the previous question illustrated. we had to identify funds on purchase cards, in building operation funds, money budgeted to the -- >> so it's a complicated affair. >> it is. when you talk to witnesses, you know, turning over the proverbial stone you find 50 more stones and you never know what's going to crawl out from under them. >> so it took nine months to be fair, and to go through all of that. >> sure. >> is that correct. miss johnson indicated in her testimony that she was a little surprised it took that long. she also indicated that there were many conversations and meetings between you about this and other matters of course. did you have conversations with the administrator about the length of time it was taking and were you giving her interim reports as to what you were finding? >> i believe we had a few. i also -- she mentioned the

brita alerted ms. cox to the 17-day trip that was coming up? >> i have no reason to dispute that. >> is she irreplaceable? >> i have -- i haven't been there long enough to know when the staff is replaceable or irreplaceable. so that's part of the review i want to do. understand who we have, what role they play, and how they can continue to serve. >>> i believe that's the same day you resigned, mrs. johnson. this committee gets the information on april 2nd, or we get -- we called our hearing on april 2nd. and it wasn't until we called a hearing and prepared subpoenas before anybody -- any action was taken, a year-and-a-half prior to that was when you had the may 3rd report. what immediate action was taken? >> when we received the final draft of the report from the ig, we spent some -- we absorbed it, we met with the ig further to deepen our understanding of the background evidence. we -- i called ruth cox in to begin some disciplinary activities. we -- i placed the regional commissioners -- i placed jeff neely on administrative leave, i placed t

brita finally did? when do other employees in the gsa say this is wrong and something needs to be done. why are we here now trying to drag information out of people when most americans are barely making it. here's the bigger problem, here's a news release. big government doesn't work. it just doesn't work. this is not the way the private sector works. and i think what we need to be talking about is, what do we do instead of the gsa? because there's lots of abuse in the gs sa and lots of abuse of other government agencies throughout this government. and i believe the $822,000 spent in las vegas by the gsa should be a farewell party. thank you. >> thank you, mr. barletta. mr. cummings? >> thank you. i thought it was the appropriate thing to do to let ms. daniels be excused. as a lawyer practicing for many, many years, it was the appropriate thing. the -- i want to follow up on some of the questions that mr. walsh was asking. mr. miller, you just restated something you said yesterday before the a governmen

ordered it. >> susan brita, my deputy administrator. >> actually ordered it. >> yes. she asked the inspector general to investigate. i had designated to her the role of interacting with the i i.g. >> so it's correct that soonen brita. >> she did. >> i didn't want inconsistency there. our goal is just to get the record accurate and there will be mistakes made and we want to make sure they are clarified. we recognize the gentle lady from the district of columbia, miss norton. >> thank you. i appreciate this hearing. i have a couple of points to make. first i want, mr. foley, even members of the oversight committee can take a joke. with respect to the joke regarding my role on the committee which has direct oversight over gsa, far from belittling me. i think that the joke complimented me for my oversight role because it essentially said norton is on the phone already with you with regard to one of the abuses that we're -- >> your clock will begin now. we figured that was the joke portion. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i'd like to

brita asked for a report. do you think there would've been anyway for you you to have no or for the agency to have taken preventative action, the agency worked well with your ig when it came to action to penalize would've taken place in the penalties are still rolling out? but of course the taxpayers are to know what i know, is there anything that could've been done to prevent this problem in the first place? >> under the decentralization -- decentralized structure would've been difficult for people in central office who found out. >> you can think the structure should be more centralized? >> and the acting administrator has taken steps already. >> mr. bartlett. >> mr. miller, you had said earlier he thought there was inappropriate behavior with vendors by employers of the gsa. what inappropriate behavior we possible illegal behavior click >> commerce than i do not want to talk about criminal charges. we do have a referral to department of justice and so i would decline to answer. >> do you also believe -- we

brita both. since this has been brought to light in the public's attention, what has been done or what will be done in the future to make sure that this does not happen again. for the inspector general, mr. miller, has the ig looked at other agencies that you are aware of for a similar type of abuse that might have occurred? or is occurring? >> we are currently looking at all of the conferences in region 9. inre looking at conferences general. >> just region 9? >> well, we are focusing on region 9 right now. we are generally looking at conferences. we are receiving a number of hot lines, as you can imagine, about other conferences throughout the country. >> the acting administrator has committed to do a complete top to bottom review of the agency, centralization versus decentralization. overall service delivery of the agency. >> is the acting director also looking at making sure the federal government is reimbursed? >> yes, sir. he has already taken action in that regard. three letters were sent

and is susan here, susan brita? could you stand? i just wanted to say, i'm personally going to ask you to stand. i want to thank you so much that you had the courage to step out in what was a very difficult situation. thank you. senator inhofe. >> well, thank you, madame chairman. you had mentioned a comment made by senator reid and let me elaborate a little bit more on that. i was surprised when i say the fact that it was held in las vegas would have something to do with it. we're dealing with corrupt people here, madame chairman and what happened in las vegas would just as likely happen if it had been held in chicago or new york or anyplace else. so i think it's totally unfair for people to somehow draw a line there. i do thank you for holding the hearing. i've had a long history with this committee before i came to the senate in '94. i spent eight years on the committee over in the house and it happened that we were a minority but i was the ranking member on the gsa subcommittee and when you look at the overwhelming stuff they de

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again, i say to miss brita thank you for your courage. this is not easy. i've done a lot of work on whistleblower protection and i know, you got to move the clock here, and i note how hard it is. and the scorn that is oftentimes heaped on those who have the currently to step forward. and you did it for your country. and we appreciate it at this committee. you know, as i researched this and i realized how many scandals there have been involving gsa, it really shakes you up. because when you look back in the president carter thought he cleaned up the mess way back in the '70s. and they put people in jail for bribery and fraud. and they put in whistleblower protection and all of that, so now you move forward, then you see two scandals under george bush and now this horrible scandal under president obama. so this is decades long. so i guess the question i have for you, and i don't expect you to have a pinpointed answer, but what is it about the structure of the gsa that leads us to back to these scandals after this -- in other words, the expression sgs fool me

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and is susan here, susan brita? could you stand?wanted to say, i'm personally going to ask you to stand. i want to thank you so much that you had the courage to step out in what was a very difficult situation. thank you. senator inhofe. >> well, thank you, madame chairman. you had mentioned a comment made by senator reid and let me elaborate a little bit more on that. i was surprised when i say the fact that it was held in las vegas would have something to do with it. we're dealing with corrupt people here, madame chairman and what happened in las vegas would just as likely happen if it had been held in chicago or new york or anyplace else. so i think it's totally unfair for people to somehow draw a line there. i do thank you for holding the hearing. i've had a long history with this committee before i came to the senate in '94. i spent eight years on the committee over in the house and it happened that we were a minority but i was the ranking member on the gsa subcommittee and when you look at the overwhelming stuff they deal with,

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