civil rights act of 1964 and the voting rights act of 1965 came in the tracks of bull connor's vicious dog. to paraphrase, it's the morning we find hope. it's in the morning we find hope when we mourn. but it's going to take more than talk. we had talk before. we have had protests before. we got to now about to make it's vow to makeke it -- it at least an era of action and reverse the systemic racism with a long overdue concrete changes. the action will not be completed in the first 100 days of my presidency, if i am fortunate enough to be elected, or even in my entire term. it's going to take the work of a generation. but if this agenda will take time to complete, it should not wait for the first 100 days of my presidency to get started. a downpayment on what is long overdue should come now, should come immediately. i call on the congress to act this month on measures that would be the first step in this direction, starting with real police reform. congressman jeffries has a bill to outlaw choke holds. congress should put it on the president's desk in the next few days. there are othe

bull connor unleashed dogs on u.s.ook like me and the president talked about using dogs in response to protecting the white house in d.c. i want to give you a chance to respond to that. >> that's a different situation. he was talking about people who were advancing on the gates of the white house and were threatening to jump over the fence. of course, he is going to use whatever force necessary to protect the white house. it's not a comparable situation. i would go back to and look at what president trump said on saturday. he spoke to the family of george floyd and stands united with them and stands united with people who are a right to protest. what is preventing people from exercising their first amendment rights to protest are the looters and the vandals. millions of people would love to go out but they can't because of violence. people are throwing bricks at police officers and burning down businesses. i would not let my children go out there. would you? they are the ones who are standing in the way of having peace

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like my grandmother who lived through the civil rights movement these words were new or original bull connor popularized them when thinking dogs and water hoses on protesters speaking to in jim crow they were also used by miami police chief walter headley in 1067 as he advocated for radical racialized police policy targeting young black and brown people segregationist george wallace also used the phrase during his 1968 presidential campaign from slavery and reconstruction to the formation of the k.k.k. and jim crow to present day horrors of police brutality and systemic racism blacks have endured human rights violations for well over 400 years call for justice into racial discrimination just keep getting louder the united nations is being called on now to step in where our government seems to continually fail here tell us more is next to freeman from the black alliance for peace welcome that the. thank you for having me the history of human rights violations in america is bast the un has several bodies that have been designed to protect human rights of african and black people because of the

and weren't the words of the president they were the kind of words bull connor would have used only in his dogs a new suit women and children you know the american story is a story about action and reaction that's what actually works we can't be naive about it i wish i could say that hate began with donald trump well and with you it didn't and it won't american history isn't a fairy tale with a guaranteed happy ending the battle for the soul of this nation has been a constant push and pull for more than 240 years a tug of war between the american ideal that we're all created equal in the harsh reality that racism has long torn us apart the honest truth is that both elements are part of the american character both elements at our best the american ideal wins out but it's never a rout it's always the fight and the battle is never fully won but we can't ignore the truth that we're at our best when we open our hearts rather than clinch our focus donald trump is turned this country no bottle feel regret bio resentments and fresh fears he thinks division helps in his narcissism has become mo

and that's the kind of bald-faced racism, we are well past the bull connor days. i think it's decades of critical and it now people are adopting the most destructive ideas out of what shelby steele called so many years ago white guilt. this passage from "the washington post" this morning is quite illuminating. the destruction of the target and surrounding stores was sad but understandable. a perfectly warranted and justified response, an expression of righteous rage. she felt a little guilty about it. i wasn't sure what side it was supposed to be on, it felt wrong to say, we are with you until you start loading. my next guest says anecdotes like this reveal that america is in the midst of a cultural civil war. joining me now is been diminish, cofounder of "the federalist" you see these seething resentments being fostered and fueled by the media, by academia and even by celebrities and some business ceos today, nt for blm driving the whole thing. >> we are witnessing the long march of the radical left through all of these various institutions that you mentioned. i

that's the kind of boldfaced racism that i thought we were well past the bull connor days. >> laura:bolism versus substance. trump actually has substance and they just have gestures. thanks so much. what we are seeing now from many parts of the left is the result of -- i think it's decades of critical race theory, grievance studies, and people are adopting the most destructive ideas out of what shelby steele called so many years ago white guilt for this passage from "the washington post" this morning quite illuminating. "the destruction of the surrounding stores in minneapolis was sad but understandable. a perfectly warranted and justified response. an expression of righteous rage." webb, also white, felt a little bit guilty about it. i wasn't sure what side i was supposed to be on. it felt wrong that we are with you until you start looting. my next guest says that anecdotes like this reveal that america is in the midst of a cultural civil war. joining me now is been cofounder and publisher of "the federalist." you see the seething resentment is being fostered and fueled by the media

from bull connor. it's an old play to separate us based on race.ple of america decided they want a future that's together. we believe diversity is a strength not a weakness. that's what we have to move towards in policy of healthcare and education and infrastructure. banking and finance. that lift people up rather than separate them. things we have to move to. in order to actually find hope in unity. >> i know leave an uplifting note at the end. thank you. rking from home and here to help. here's a tip: get half-off the amazing iphone 11 on at&t, america's fastest network for iphones. second tip: you can put googly eyes on your stuff to keep yourself company. uh for example, that's heraldo. he's my best friend. oh, sorry nancy, i forgot you were there. get the amazing iphone 11 for half-off on at&t, america's fastest network for iphones. 100% online car buying. carvana's had a lot of firsts. car vending machines. and now, putting you in control of your financing. at carvana, get personalized terms, browse for cars that fit your budget, then customi

because just like television changed the civil rights movement for the better when they saw bull connor ripping the clothes off elderly back women going to chunk and fire hoses ripping the skin off young kids, all the people around the country who didn't have black

when trump talks about law and order it is the law and order of bull connor, the law and order of police dogs and vicious dogs and domination of the streets. that is not law and order. the people who crave law and order are the people on the streets protesting for justice. >> indeed, peter, while trump has invoked richard nixon a time or two, you cite perhaps a more accurate example. >> i think people talk about the 1968 campaign and, remember, nixon's appeal to law and order and of course he did. he ran against the sort of counterculture against the student protesters and anti-war protesters and to some extent obviously the riots after the assassination of martin luther king. but what people forget is he ran in the middle in a way between hubert humphrey on the left the democratic nominee and george wallace on the right. george wallace with the segregationist former governor of alabama running on a third party. it was wallace who was the more combative, more incendiary candidate that year. nixon actually had a theme of bring us together. he talked to suburban audiences, and marched in m

greensboro authorities did not see themselves in the same light as a running ham or a bull connor..am or they thought of themselves as conducting race relations in a way that was more civilized. >> what our parents told us is true. they told us these are the rules. you do not act out verbally or physically, in the presence of other people. but if you are in the case of white people do not do anything to incite them to want to harm you or members of your family or your friends. mouth canbecause your either bring you to glory, or it can bring you to hell. ♪ old.was nine years to theklux klan came community and put out a message, onare catching the knickers the street at night and we are going to kill them and burn a cross in front of their house. and i said what is ku klux klan? and they said they are people who wear white robes and sheets over their heads and they burn crosses on people's lawns and they hang you and kill people. oh yeah? well what time is it? 3:00, don't worry, i have four or five hours to get myself ready. i'm not going on the street tonight. and my father said, i

to hear the president of the united states threaten to sick vicious dogs on americans, sort of bull connor, george wallace style, to put up a fence in front of the people's house, just viscerally for you, how does that read to you when you hear it? >> well, viscerally for me, the statement about the vicious dogs was intentional. i think that it was meant to send a message to many, many americans, many people that i represent, my family and friends, who lived through those days. and it was a triggering moment i think for them, and as me as a person who wasn't even alive during those days, but i know my history. i recently did the pilgrimage with john lewis where i had to rewalk those steps that so many of our civil rights leaders walked. and to hear in 2020 the threat of vicious dogs being released on the people of washington, d.c. shook me to our core. they claim they brought in the military because of unrest, but they decided that day they were going to bring in the military as a show of force, in my view, in my opinion. >> yeah. i want to let you listen to senator mitch mcconnell of kent

a bull connor, a share claw. -- of sheriff clakr. -- clark. mentioned in my book that when you see someone, that look in their eye, of someone that is beating you, you have to think at some point this person was a little child, somebody's little baby. they did not come into this world hating and putting people down because of their race or color. something happened. and we all have to have the power and the capacity to be able to forgive and to understand. susan: he was reelected in 1982 for his fourth turn with a great deal of support from black voters in alabama. what is the lesson to be learned from that? ms. kennedy: forgiveness. asking for forgiveness, generally asking for forgiveness. admitting that you have caused pain for other people, for the acts that you have done. and you ask for that forgiveness. and you will -- and you are forgiven. susan: from a policy perspective, how did he use his last term to right some of his earlier wrongs? ms. kennedy: well, he appointed more african-americans to government jobs in alabama than any govern

no way we have bull connor lester maddox.e have bobby rush same the chicago police department is like the kkk. mr. rush, there's black people, there's hispanics who make up the police union in chicago and pleas for omar in minnesota, please minnesotans, defeat her. for her to talk about eliminating the police department is ludicrous. outright ludicrous. it's crazy. that's why i can't work with these guys anymore. >> sean: larry. >> we watched for example names, thousands of them in the obama-bioneers. nobody does anything to fix chicago and the violence. nobody fixes, you know, the schools in every inner-city in the country. how is it possible the third-highest capita spending on education for kids is in baltimore. 13 high schools. not one kid is proficient in math, not one. is its institutional failure. joe and barack could have done something after ferguson, cambridge, baltimore. they did nothing. donald trump is looking at this and saying we are going to have reforms but on the other hand if these states will not accept hi

they were the kinds of word bull connor would have used unleashing his dogs on women and children.ou know, the american story is a story about action and reaction. that's how history works. we can't be naive about it. i wish i could say that hate began with donald trump and will end with him. i didn't and it won't. american history isn't a fairy tale with a guaranteed happy ending. the battle for the soul of this nation has been a constant push and pull for more than 240 years. a tug-of-war between the american ideal that we're all created equal and the harsh reality that racism has torn us apart. both elements are part of the american character. both elements. at our best, the american ideal wins out. but it's never a route. it's always a fight. and the battle is never fully won. but we can't ignore the truth that we're at our best when we open our hearts rather than clench our fists. donald trump has turned this country into a battlefield driven by old resentments and fresh fears. he thinks division helps him. his narcissism has become more important than the nation's well-being

and that's also the moment where the bull connor the public safety commissioner decides to bring out attack dogs and high powered fire hoses those pictures. go around the world. oh no. and we get these incredibly dramatic images. they are so powerful and here we have a story of 2 opposing forces one behaving brutally the other being victimized and so on you know for television this is a spectacular story. malcolm x. is quoted in the media being very very critical about king and the movement allowing children to march and be arrested and be brutalized that was our main crucible berman here. i mean the fact that it would you the children would be put in this and after what i understand even some of the king people kind of you know had a problem with that initially they misled they had a problem with interesting lee it's it's at that moment that the coverage of king starts to change because very shortly after this particular campaign it it's now it's called the children's campaign very shortly after that the white power structure in birmingham basically collapses a green is to basically

his law and order is the law and order of bull connor.he law and order of an age in this country that is not ever going to come back, but it has very little to do with justice. he has incited, he has divided, he has assaulted the rule of law, he has weakened our essential institutions. at every moment during this rancid presidency, when there is been a time where he could heal the country, he could try to bring people together, what he has done instead is stoked the cold civil war that he has capitalized on for his political career of these last years. starting with the birther movement, right up through today with his attacks on a 75-year-old man who was viciously assaulted by a police officer, that the president is now put in the middle of his wild conspiracy theories. >> okay. who does that wild conspiracy theory serve? if the president needs to win over suburban women, what suburban women are out there saying right on, president trump. time to go after a 5-year-old man with a nonsense conspiracy theory. president trump has his base. e

they were the kind of words bull connor would have used unleashing his dogs on innocent women and children. you know, the american story is a story about action and reaction. that's how history works. we can't be naive about it. i wish i could say that hate began with donald trump and will end with him. it didn't and it won't. american history isn't a fairy tale with a guaranteed happy ending. the battle for the soul of this nation has been a constant push and pull for more than 240 years. a tug-of-war between the american ideal that we're all created equal and the harsh reality that racism has long torn us apart. the honest truth is that both elements are part of the american character. both elements. at our best, the american ideal wins out, but it's never a route, it's always a fight and the battle is never fully won. but we can't ignore the truth that we're at our best when we open our hearts rather than clench our fists. donald trump has turned this country into a battlefield driven by old resentments and fresh fears. he thinks division helps him. his narcissism has become more import

the joint chiefs, in combat fatigues, to stand up with the president, after he's given sort of bull connor type speech, and then brandishes a bible before an episcopal church, my faith, without the permission or the knowledge of the bishop or the pastor of that church, it's about trying to divide us and inflame us for his political benefit. when you say it's an empty threat, i hope it proves to be an empty threat that he won't deploy the military in the states of the union. but here in the district of columbia where i live, this is my hometown. we are living that nightmare last night and today, with thousands of federalized, armed forces on our streets. black hawk helicopters buzzing peaceful protesters at very low altitudes. it's very scary here. so we're living that real time. >> i'm glad you mentioned the presidential quality of joe biden's speech today in philadelphia, because i want to show as much as we can of it throughout this hour. because it's the only presidential level comment that has been offered to us at all during this crisis. i want to listen to something else joe biden sa

bull connor shocking the nation when he unleashed vicious police dogs and fire hoses on innocent childrenengaged in a peaceful protest. and later in that year a church bombing that killed four young girls simply because of the color of their skin. the question on the day that dr. king was arrested is, why now? why risk a jail and perhaps death to protest conditions in a city that dr. king had described as the most segregated in america, a city, though, that had just elected a new city government that had promised change? it was a question dr. king and all black americans had heard for too long and it was time for an answer. i believe the wisdom of this letter is perhaps the best frame to view how we move forward during this moment, the movement of this time, the movement of this generation. in passage after passage, dr. king warns us how easily people people can fall back to the status quo, how easily people can hear the word wait when in fact the word means never. from a jail cell in birmingham in 1963, dr. king told us that action in that moment was critical so that issues of racism and

when we discovered that the commissioner of public safety, eugene "bull" connor, had piled up enough votes to be in the runoff, we decided again to postpone action until the day after the runoff so that the demonstrations could not be used to cloud the issues. like many others, we waited to see mr. connor defeated, and to this end we endured postponement after postponement. having aided in this community need, we felt that our direct action program could be delayed no longer. the words of dr. kings a letter from a birmingham jail, april 16, 1963. madam president, i yield the floor. a senator: madam president? the presiding officer: the senator from alabama. mr. jones: thank you, madam president. continuing the reading from the letter from the birmingham jail. you may well ask: "why direct action? why sit-ins, marches, and so forth? isn't negotiation a better path?" you are quite right in calling for negotiation. indeed, this is the very purpose of direct action. nonviolent direct action seeks to create such a crisis and foster such a tension that a community which has constantly refu

because just like television changed the civil rights movement for the better when they saw bull connor and the dogs ripping the clothes off elderly back women going to chunk and fire hoses ripping the skin off young kids, all the people around the country who didn't have black populations saw it, it was impossible to close their eyes. now you have george floyd, how many people around the country, millions of cell phones. it's changed the way people look at this. look at the millions of people marching around the world. the world. so my point is i think people are really realizing this is a battle for the soul of america. >>> americans are good and virt virt virtue us people we have to work together wherever bigotry may appear but we'll make no moves by falsely labelling tens of millions of americans as racist or bigots we have to get everybody together and be in the same path. if we don't do that we'll have problems. but we'll do that. i think it'll go quickly and very easily. >> president trump and joe biden both speaking yesterday about combatting racism. >> it'll go very easily and

. >> donald trump keeps using 1960s racist police phraseology and bull connor sort of talk.think he understands he's hubert humphrey and not richard nixon in this scenario? i think he thinks he's running as richard nixon? >> i don't think trump even understands the words, the way he tweets them, he can't even put them in a sentence. it's clearly just -- he's on the phone with roger stone and roger stone is telling him all the nixon phrases. the huge difference between richard nixon who really created that phrase law and order as a republican campaign point and donald trump is that richard nixon was an extremely calculating man when it came to his choice of words. when you look at -- he had a long public career, as a senator, as vice president, as president. there are very few -- the collection of the times nixon said something he shouldn't have is a very, very, very slim pamphlet. he was extremely calculating. and i don't think there was a moment -- there wasn't a day in 1968 during that presidential campaign where nixon said one word that wasn't surgically precise and inten

there is a white racist sheriff in miami that used this phrase, the shooting star, excuse me, the bull connor of miami, he said that he could read it as a threat or as a, it is a combination of both, a threat and a fact in his view. he doesn't regret this. he is doing these things that whether or not his campaign manager says they are coincidental there is definitely, they're sending a very clear message, let's put it that way. what do you make of the reaction of the majority of americans, including the majority of white americans, too, we're now seeing changes, where even white americans now in a majority support, getting rid of these statues, confederate statues, i remember on the absolutely freakout of the 1619 project from conservatives where they lost it when you put out that incredible body of work, but now it seems like that is a position that is winning. people want to know the history. they want to learn from it. >> yes, i think the way that people are now reacting and responding is exactly why so many conservatives freaked out about the 1619 project, is because if you understand the

in my testimony, the images are in some instances eerily similar to the tactics of people like bull connor, sheriff clark in selma, and other figures whose points of view and whose tactics we had thought we had left behind 50 years ago. and in this era of american history that we believe is inconsistent with the values of equal protection under the law. and one of the things that is somewhat curious is that the lesson that one sees in history from those moments of violent clashes between police and protesters is that it fails to crustalize the injustice of the moment. i think that is what we have seen here. when americans see the injustice that others have lived with for so many years and had been talking about, when they see these images that illustrate these problems, many americans who are people of good faith, who support the principles of the constitution, who support equal rights and equal justice, have joined the perspective, understood the perspective of the protesters. the police violence is counterproductive. it exposes -- >> i'm short on time. i want to reclaim my time as i clos

they were the kind of words bull connor would have used unleashing his dogs on innocent women and children>> so, chuck, a few things to note about former vice president's comments. one, he also went a little further saying that you can't wait for the elections for congress to act. he wants police to stop using choke holds and new legislation that's introduced or is going to be introduced in congress. he also wants weapons of war out of the hands of police as they police communities and cities all across this country. so the former vice president using this -- both as an opportunity for him to get back out into the public, to be a part of the national conversation about it, but at the same time, saying that if, in fact, he is elected president, he's going to try to bring this country and heal this country, not exploit it for political gain. chuck? >> ayman mao dean, thank you. katy, the most interesting contrast may not be the words between biden and trump but you'll have two photo ops from yesterday that may become iconic to many people. the vice president taking a knee. we know what that

or do you want to be in the black and white pictures you were showing of bull connor? to be the guy kneeling on someone else's neck? you know where you want to be in your heart, so let your heart and your mind triumph over your appetite. >> for so many in washington, d.c., that just requires standing up and telling the truth when you see something that you believe is wrong. and when you see a leader in your own party doing something that may just be fanning the flames of violence. >>> coming up, for a law and order candidate, president trump sure has a lot of jailed associated and chaos in the white house. we'll talk to presidential historian michael about that. >>> plus, president trump said he spoke with the family of george floyd this weekend, but did he listen to what they had to say? >> reverend al had an interview with george floyd's brother. we'll talk to him about that straight ahead. >>> also ahead, florida congresswoman val demings, a former police chief and a contender to be joe biden's running mate, joins the conversation. along with former new york city po

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