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like cassidy hutchinson mr. butterfield was a loyal republican, loyal to the president, didn't ever want to be anything other than good at his job and a help to the administration he served but like cassidy hutchinson alexander butterfield also felt he needed to be honest about what he had seen and what he knew. alexander butterfield is how the nation learned there was a taping system in the nixon white house during watergate. cassidy hutchinson seen here meeting with mr. butterfield after her testimony. she is how the nation learned all the worst things we now know about as she puts it on page 321, quote, an unhinged chief executive willing toveurn the will of the people and plunge the country into chaos and violence on the advice of crazy people. for what? to avoid the embarrassment of conceding an election he knew he had lost. she said, quote, that is who he is. and her testimony we also know that is who she is. a paragon of bravery. she has a new book out called "enough" coming out tomorrow. she is here toni

cassidy hutchinson didn't want to do it. the day the world met her on live television, testifying that to the january six committee, the very last thing she said, after fighting off a panic attack right before testifying, was do i have to do this? she had been asking herself that question silently for months. she was facing a monumental conflict with huge stakes between personal loyalty and truth. in the end, truth one. that is the story cassidy hutchinson tells in her new book, enough. joining us now for the discussion about that is cassidy hutchinson. thank you very much for doing this tonight. >> thank you for having me, lawrence. >> so, how are you dealing with the panic attacks? last night i saw in the hallway here before going on rachael show. you didn't seem close to a panic attack at all. is this a calmer process than what you went through with the committee? >> i'm more at peace now. i'm still nervous. it's a different type of nervous though. before i testified to the committee into the country, i felt there was a l

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joy osofsky who will be introduced by senator cassidy. senator cassidy: it's a joy to introduce dr. joy. a developmental psychologist and national leader in early childhood development. i learned a lot from her. she's who taught me you can ob/gyn picking up separation disorder from day zero, which is amazing. she was very -- the mental health reform bill of 2016. i owe a lot to her. she has expertise in trauma informed care. helped many louisiana families recover from hurricane katrina. and apply that expertise during the covid-19 pandemic. she received numerous awards and recognition for her work. dr. osofsky, thank you for being here. dr. osofsky: thank you very much, senator cassidy, for the invitation and senator sanders. i very much appreciate being here. one of the things i want to say in introducing my testimony is how important the opportunity has been for me. actually together with my husband who is a psychiatrist, to be able to consult with senator cassidy on mental health issues. to identify and support community and state agencies that work individually and collaborative

cassidy: i could speculate.'t think it is the most responsible thing for me to do, speculate, but donald trump knows the effect his words have on people. he knows that his words have power to rile people up, that his words have power to stoke violence. he knows that his words have power to turn a massive portion of the population against a single individual. it is not lost on me that there is a reason that donald trump wanted to go to the capitol. he summoned those people to washington, d.c. on january 6 for a reason. he knew what was happening. the certification of the election come of the electoral college votes. i believe that donald trump wanted to go to the capitol not just to make another speech. he knows the impact that hol -- impact that his speech would have at the capitol that day. amna: do you want to stay in politics? cassidy: in the immediate, no. what i mean by that is that i don't see myself right now wanting to go work on capitol hill. i think that the most effective use of my time right now is c

senator cassidy, the mic is yours. senator cassidy: thank you, mr. chairman. everybody here knows a fellow american struggling with mental health issues. everybody watching knows. school closures, isolation from the covid-19 pandemic exacerbated, almost concentrated this among those who are younger. according to the c.d.c. from 2021 to 2022, the percent of teenagers that felt sad or hopeless increased to 42%. those considering suicide, seriously considering suicide goes from 19% to 22%. to say it's troubling is the kind of not have an adequate adjective. this is terrible. the goal of this hearing is how do we improve access to quality mental health care for young people. we must highlight that congress has done a lot in recent years to improve mental health care and access to children and all americans. we have walked this ground. we need to see what our recent work has accomplished, need to measure its effectiveness, and then to figure out what gaps remain. now, just for context, we know this for decades the nation's mental health system was dysfunctional, un

here is part one of our are sit down with cassidy hutchinson. >> cassidy, thanks so much for joiningppreciate it. >> thanks for having me, jake. >> so a few years ago, donald trump, president trump, was a man you described in your book as adoring. and now, you are doing this book tour in what you tell the story from childhood to your greatest testimony. and you are basically warning the world that he shouldn't be president ever again. a, that's quite a journey and b, why shouldn't he be president again? >> i'd like to start by saying i came for to testify because, one, that's what i was obligated to do. i swore an oath to protect and defend the united states. and that was what i was subpoenaed to do. and i was at a point where i had not been completely forthcoming with the committee charged with investigating the most grave attack on the united states in recent history. so i came forward not with the goal or anything other than providing people with the truth. i've seen how people are evading the truth and how people are not holding themselves accountable. and it was my duty as ameri

i didn't even work with cassidy, she came in with meadows. but i just have a feeling she's doing this because she thinks it's the right thing to do, there's a small handful of us who are doing that, and it's not for fun. i can promise you that. it's just trying to do the right thing. >> and, ryan, the context here is, as you talk about if this is used in any of the cases, to establish who really is the real measure of the person -- the measure of the mayor, america's mayor or somebody very different. giuliani's already facing multiple lawsuits. he's also got financial issues. lawyers say he's not paying, he's being sued for more than a million dollars in unpaid legal fees by one attorney. so, how bad is giuliani's situation right now? >> his situation seems financially dire, and the worse it is financially, then he might actually feel like i've got so much pressure on me, i'm going to cooperate with the feds because i just can't even afford lawyers to defend myself. the cassidy hutchinson allegation also does buttress one of the lawsuits agai

cassidy has openly talked about the fact that she had to relocate. she did not have money. she lost jobs because of her doing the right thing and speaking out against the former president. but listen, that is what we, need people who are going to put what is right in the country ahead of their own inhibition. >> thank you. yet have you here. john dean as well. programming note, cassidy hutchinson will sit down with jake tapper tomorrow for his show the league. yours at four pm eastern. just ahead, a surge at the border shelters, might be soon overwhelmed by migrants, and new video of the size of crowds trying to make their way north. david culver joins us on the mexico southern border life on the migrant show to the u.s.. next. >> the venezuelans gathered in the, dark migrant, camp still thousands of miles from the u.s. southern border and about to embark on or the most precious points of the check north. someone prompted the crowd to sing the fitness for the national anthem before they leave. at about four in the morning, but heading into the gap which is a dangerous trail

he attacked me and cassidy for coming forward and testifying. that is a really scary position to be put in. and then to know that you might have security threats. i had capitol police offer to put a guard outside my office where i was working at in the weeks leading up to the testimony and following the testimony. and they were patrolling outside my apartment. i didn't face the same kind of security threat that cassidy did, where she needed to actually relocate. but i think that that should be something that people think about when they attack her and say that she's a liar or she's doing this for fame or whatever excuse they're trying to lob at her because i don't know why anyone would put themselves through that if they weren't telling the truth. >> john, as we mentioned, hutchinson said she was inspired by former white house aide alexander butterfield's testimony during the watergate hearings. he played a crucial role when he revealed the existence of nixon's oval office taping. do you see parallels between the two? >> i was inspired by alex a

that was what we learned because of cassidy hutchinson. we learned that donald trump lunged forward when he was in the car after his ellipse speech to the secret service driver because of cassidy hutchinson. and so that day, when she was rehearsing and getting ready for her debut as a witness live in one of our hearings, she was really nervous. and i can understand why. cassidy and i are of similar ages, which is why i was with her that day. but i was so impressed with how she came across during that hearing. she got across the facts. she stood by her testimony. and her testimony still stands today. and we wouldn't know a lot of the things that we know now if she didn't decide to go through with that. >> she talks about the moments just before she was about to testify. this is what she said, quote, i almost ran out of -- there's a little hold room outside the committee room that we were about to walk in. and i almost darted. i heard the door click open, and i turned around and looked at my attorney, and i said, i can't do this. and i start

lot of people in the orbiter cassidy hutchison.ers ahead of them. they had no interest, and didn't like what they were saying. perfect witnesses for the government. >> let's talk about a deadline for the trump team to talk about jack smith's reque for a gap border. this msnbc.com medical, it's not, that it says that trump is using a sneaky strategy to undermine the order by not opposing, it but also trying to paints the judge as biased before she rules on it. we've seen what he said on strethw shull, but we know that other courts have put in protective orders. does that established president, does it make it easier for the judge? >> the only sneaky thing is that judge has moved for the judge to recuse herself. anyone can see this coming. the idea is that everything she does after that the trump doesn't, like he can point to incite, see, we try to get rid of her. we tried to recuse her because she's biased. here's the balancing test with the gag order. this is what we expect to see the defense. a gag order, or prior restraint, is so

and cassidy was incredibly poised.i think when you saw her, when she was on testifying to 13 million americans for that hearing. but beforehand, she was nervous. she had a lot of facts that she had to get right and keep straight, and i think what we know is that she did keep those straight. we as a committee standby her testimony. we talk or try to talk to many men that either pled to us or didn't come to talk to us at all. her boss smart battles is one of them. we found him in contempt of congress. but she was nerd -- nervous leading up to it. i, as a young woman myself, was really impressed at how she came off and how she's continued to. >> she also had a trump aide attorney initially, who according to the book, advised her that the less you say, the better. she writes that she had started to try to back channel stuff to the committee. can you talk about that? >> liz cheney was the key to this committee. she provided legitimacy when it comes to the nonpartisan investigation, because she is obviously a wall known repu

cassidy is right about guardrails.thing that worries me more is this acquiescence of my party and the fact that you're going to have people who put people in place, knowingly weed out the people that would be the guardrails against that. they're going to have the -- you won't have the john boltons to pull him back from abandoning the kurds. any job in government, you can find somebody to take that job and acquiesce to donald trump's wishes. the guardrails to democracy, they exist but they're manned by people. you can change who's manning those. >> one of the things she writes in the book is meadows took a document, classified document, "crossfire hurricane," the trump russia investigation, gave it to two far-right-wing media personalities who toe the maga line and that the white house counsel wanted it back because there was stuff in there that was classified. and it ultimately got back to the white house. i mean, if it is exactly -- meadows disputes this. he said it was unclassified by trump. if it is how she says, an

cassidy hutchinson today is warning we should believe him.ere is part one of our interview. >> cassidy, thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> so a few years ago, donald trump, president trump was a man you describe in your book as adoring. and now you are doing this book tour in which you tell the story from childhood to your courageous testimony and you're basically warning the world that he shouldn't be president ever again. a., that is quite a journey, and b., why shouldn't he be president ever again? >> well i would like to start by saying that i came forward to testify because, one, that was what i was obligated to do. i swore an oath to protect and defend the united states and that was what i was paid to do and i had not been completely forthcoming with the committee charged with investigating the most grave attack on the united states in history. so i came forward not with goal or anything other than providing people with the truth. i've seen how people are evading the truth and how people are not holding themselves

so when cassidy was going through these she spoke i think about this today. she felt that it was wrong inside of her but as a young person in washington it's hard to know what to do all the time and liz cheney provided that avenue for her and i think for others that testified to the committee as well. >> i would like to note as well that i had a similar experience with liz cheney and she did give me that comfort to be able to come forward. she actually contacted me through someone and asked if i would be willing to speak knowing that i had resigned and if i would be interested in cooperating with the committee. she had a private one-on-one convo where we sat in her hideaway in the capitol in the basement of the capitol building for around four hours and talked to me about what i knew, what i had witnessed and from that conversation i went forward and did a taped deposition with the committee which obviously led to me then publicly testifying so i think for, you know, someone like myself a young woman at the time when i testified i was 27 years old, cassidy wa

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rachel maddow joins me -- with cassidy hutchinson. later, as the president and his predecessor jewel -- for back-to-back visits to michigan, did one of them has a long history of broken promises to the same people he's trying to pitch. >> remember when the government shutdown in 2013? i sure, to my first guest definitely does. in case you don't, let me refresh your memory. basically, republicans like mike lee and ted cruz, and a bunch of other ones were angry about providing health care to more people. they were so intense on defunding obamacare that they shut the government down. at that, time i was working in the obama administration and i, thought we were dealing with the most unreasonable obstructionist bad faith actors that i would ever encounter in my career in washington. i've got to, say this fight right now about whether or not tough on the government has made 2013 seem kind of like the good old days. at least that 2013 shutdown was about something. it was a ridiculous policy -- and they were definitely, wrong but at least it

let's button up the conversation about cassidy hutchinson.major security concerns after testifying before the january 6th committee. a period of time she had to live in tlaept, i believe she was saying. that's pretty striking, that she had to leave town because of this threat environment that a lot of former trump employees go through when they speak out against the former president. what went through your mind when you heard some of that? >> i'm really grateful for cassidy hutchins on to have com forward. this security concern is just another combam example of the kind of repercussions, the person with the moral courage to do the right thing had to deal with. that's something we really need to think about in our political system, as we ratchet up the rhetoric, as it's gotten coarser and we've made enemies out of our political opponents. this is getting hotter and hotter to a point where this is not sustainable in a representative democracy that operates securely. her comments really gave me pause and made me think about how all of us have a

that's a new allegation by former white house aide cassidy hutchinson.the brand-new boo former trump white house aide cassidy hutchinson. she, of course, delivered damming testimony before the house january 6th testimony. now she paints a picture that might be more damming. she quotes her former boss as saying, cass, if i get through the job and manage to keep trump out of jail i will have done a good job. after a 2020 campaign rally meadows reportedly asked her, quote, would you take a bullet for him, meaning trump. she says she tried to joke back saying, could it be the leg? meadows then responded he would do anything to get trump reelected. cnn's sara murray is with us now with some of the details in this new book. sarah. >> yeah, john. i mean it really is a picture of chaos in the trump white house, especially in the final weeks. i mean there's this whole anecdote where cassidy hutchinson is laying out how her direct boss, again, white house chief of staff mark meadows is burning tons of documents in his final weeks in the white house and even meadow

quite frankly, i believe cassidy hutchison, take her word of cassidy's any day. >> you resigns on january alleged this took place on january. six it may not have crossed over. let me ask why director josh to put up the statement for giuliani spokesperson, but the question to you been this. what's your reaction to the claims of the timing of the statements. it says that it's fair to ask a city why she is no committed with these allegations from two and half years ago a poor as the marketing campaign for a book release. this is a person ally against giuliani, and a man with distinguished career public service is taking down the mafia, cleanup new york city, and calgary in the nation following september 11th. your reaction to that timeline? >> i think it's really important for people to keep in mind the power dynamic that is at play here. when this alleged incident, occurred cassidy hutchison was 23 years, old and working at the white house. rudy giuliani was then a beloved national hero, he was america's mayor. i think to come forward with an allegation of that nature is really scary for an

cassidy hutchinson was 24 years old when rudolph giuliani did that to her. rudolph giuliani has a 34 -year-old daughter who does not speak to him. there is nothing about having a daughter of his own that has apparently civilized rudolph giuliani in the presence of other people's daughters. we knew from her january 6th committee testimony that cassidy hutchinson spent january 6th fighting against the madness of donald trump and rudolph giuliani and john eastman, and trying and failing to get her boss, white house chief of staff mark meadows, to do the right thing. now we know cassidy hutchison and was fighting much more than their ideas and what they were saying. next week on the rachel maddow show and on this program, we will hear more details from cassidy hutchinson about the fight for america's future that she found herself in the middle of on january 6th. today, georgia's fulton county district attorney fani willis filed a 103 page brief notifying judge scott mcafee that several of the criminal defense attorneys in the case of georgia versus trump and cod

cassidy and i are also close friends.aw the vitriol that she was getting online. i was made aware of both the congressional committee's concern for her safety but also her own attorneys and family. listen, over 10 million people watched that hearing. i think she moved many hearts and minds. but you also know that there are folks on the far right who were threatened by what she was doing. and i think she was in danger and it was the right call to leave. >> yeah. certainly. ashley, what do you think? >> i mean, my heart goes out to her, of course. but what i appreciate is she showed a level of courage that we're not seeing even from republican members. she's -- you know, like nikki haley most recently stood up to the president and really spoke truth to power and really defended american democracy. so i just admire her courage and i really wish that the rest of the republican party would take a lesson in the playbook from her and really demonstrate that level of courage in the interest of protecting and defending and strengt

interesting to hear cassidy saying yes i still consider myself a republican.ou and i know dozens of people like this, younger generation or enolder generation, the bpaul ryan type republicans, none seem confident of taking their party in a drift direction. not resignation, but close to it. and i don't think that cassidy hutchinson will be a question tonight at the debate. there are a lot of things to discuss. but i don't suspect that we'll really see any of those seven on the stage sort of throw donald trump and really aside from chris christie really have the conversation that i think a lot of us at this table want to have, which is when is the republican party going to have this fight. doesn't seem like it will be tonight. >> and will they have the fight. and let's turn to something that really matters. the supreme court wrist slapped the effort in alabama to essentially cut out what needed to be a second black majority voting district can matters a lot for the makeup of the next house. explain what the supreme court did and why it matters if. >> it is reall

i would like the think cassidy hutchinson is the future leader of the republican party.ikki haley and others that's just not where the party is. that party is dead, and there's a cultural identity to your political affiliation, and i think that's what some people are clinging to, but this notion there's somehow an ideology left in today's gop, that verdict was rendered a long time ago. >> glenn kirschner, david jolly said cassidy hutchinson is brave. and i think anyone who watches these interviews will come to that conclusion, but bravery is not a simple matter when it comes to donald trump and his machine. this is beyond the i'm being courageous. cas odd hutchpson has subjected herself to potential harm. >> courage and patriotism you would think that those would govern, that those would control those of us who choose public service. and i only wish that the mike pences and the mark meadows of this sort of sad chapter in our nation's history had one one thousandth of the courage and patriotism of someone like cassidy hutchinson. she really did more troubling evidence to

we begin with senator don't cassidy of louisiana.se] we see children often less dignified circumstances of the u.s. capital when you're surrendered by members of the press. this is a very nice setting. senator cassidy as many of you know is one of four physicians in the u.s. senate currently. he's a gastroenterologist by trade but i thank you might be a sociologist. this is a senator who i have seen carefully watching and observing lawmakers working across the aisle to understand where their potentials for issues. he has a somebody know a plan for social security which involves some elements of the simpson-bowles plan which means raising the retirement age, getting rid of the cap on income required for payroll taxes and moving that cap in some way. perhaps the most innovative part of the plan would be a wealth fund. we'll come back to that in second. let me ask about the challenge itself. we heard jo ann talk about that. she said the trust fund will run out of money in just 10 years if nothing is done. we understand we could face cut

she said on january 6th, cassidy hutchinson saying rudy giuliani groped her.'m sara sidner with john berman and kate bolduan. this is cnn "news central." >>> happening now. an extraordinary split screen. ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy is in d.c. visiting the capitol, the white house for a series of critical closed door meetings asking for more in help to push back against russia's invasion. at this moment russia is launching missile attacks across the entire breadth of ukraine. this morning five cities across the entire nation targeted as officials describe a, quote, terrible night of shelling. ukraine said it shot down 36 out of 43 missiles fired but several deaths and injuries are being reported. this is what zelenskyy has left at home as he faces u.s. lawmakers today, including republicans in the house, some of whom are threatening a shutdown over the u.s. government if congress tries to give him any more financial help. we are seeing live pictures of zelenskyy -- see if i can see on the screen somewhere. zelenskyy arriving at the u.s. capitol, wit

. >>> cassidy hutchison out with a new book that paints the closing days of the trump administration more lawless than previously disclosed. >>> cities across the u.s./mexico border dealing with the recent influx of migrants. the border city at a breaking point. that's live. this hour of "cnn this morning" starts now. >>> we begin with news into cnn. president biden's son hunter biden is now suing former trump attorney rudy giuliani and others over the data obtained from his now infamous laptop left in a delaware repair shop. katelyn polantz with more. what grounds is he suing him on? >> this is about data privacy and hunter biden is going to court here in federal court in california suing not just rudy giuliani, but also giuliani's companies and a lawyer that was representing giuliani for some time, a close friend, robert costello. and what hunter biden is accusing robert costello and rudy giuliani of doing is getting access to data that was taken from his laptop. so that laptop was the laptop that he had given over to a computer repair shop in delaware and at some point rudy giulia

cassidy hutchison described giuliani as a wolf closing in on his prey.these groping allegations have been within the purview of the january six investigation? and you heard about this before the account was published? >> alex, these allegations are discussed, dana disappointing to hear. i am no attorney, so in terms of the purview of what we were looking, at a don't want to get ahead of myself. i think thinking about this, in the larger context of what cassidy hutchison has gone through, it's really important. there's a reason she was a star witness for us, is because she was a young woman who was in the room with donald trump, rudy giuliani, and others. she heard and saw a lot. one other people, older men, fled the, fifth or didn't comply with subpoenas for the select committee, she came forward, not only spoke to, us but spoke to us in front of 13 million people and national television, telling us things about donald trump's plot to overturn the election that we would not have known before. thinking about how much she went through, these allegations ha

olivia, you still talked to cassidy.now you've helped her deal with the security threats that she has faced many of them. is she ready for what is about to happen here? a new wave of threats, attacks that will likely come at the release of her book. >> yes, sure. i think, as much as we sort of get used to the barrage of threats and sort of spin that happens when we speak out, i think it's hard to sort of live day to day. it doesn't change its impact on you. and so i think it's going to get worse. i think this will be a very hard couple weeks for her. but i give her tremendous credit for telling her story. it's a story that needs to be told, and certainly she lives this very personally and having worked with her in the west wing, she was in the center of it, and she witnessed what many of us witness in the white house. >> and, in that, you heard zoe lofgren who was on the committee saying on friday, all the things that cassidy hutchinson has said, which has been borne out by so many others and the fact patterns that are t

cassidy hutchinson has more to say, it is striking. she now says just minutes before being sworn in before the house committee, and giving such damning testimony, she nearly backed out of the whole thing. she tufted out of course, famously, testifying only brought new concerns this is what she told cbs news. >> in the days after my testimony, you know, there was the immediate security protocols, and security concerns. so my life changed in the way in the fact the way that i was living my life. >> he could not go back to your apartment? >> i could not go back to my apartment. >> i ended up moving down to atlanta for several months. >> they didn't even think it was safe for you to stay in d.c.. >> no? . >> a staffer spent more time and cast the hudson, he served as committee spokesperson he joins us now from washington. what more can you tell us about your experience with cassidy hutchinson and concerns for her safety? >> the select committee was concerned about the safety of all of our witnesses, when they came to testify. we had over 2

>> i unequivocally believe my friend cassidy hutchinson.ar with probably less detail than i saw in the guardian reporting but just about him getting hands and i want to be careful in saying this, but it was a known fact within the trump white house that rudy giuliani was a liability. there was often a worry that he would show up to the white house complex perhaps inebriated, to the point where i was given a directive from the president, to make sure that he wasn't trying to do standups on television on the white house lawn because you weren't sure what he was going to do or say. this, frankly tracks with things that have been reported before that giuliani has done and i think it's a shame for a lot of us who wants admired the former mayor to see him to send into this but i believe her account and it doesn't in any way shocked me that this happened and no one in the trump white house hierarchy did anything about it at the time. >> alyssa, having covered the trump campaign and then the trump white house, this is not the first time we've heard

what's your reaction to this allegation from cassidy hutchinson?ns is somebody that i worked with closely at my time with the white house, when i was working with the press team, she was basicall y the right-hand of mark meadows. so anytime we needed anything from the chief, she was our go-to person. so getting to know her really well in that role in spending time outside of the white house with her, she was someone i knew to be of good character, someone of integrity and i have no reason to doubt her account of these events. i fully believe that she would be in a position like that where she was in close proximity to john eastman and rudy giuliani, and it just tracks with the behavior that we have seen from rudy giuliani where he has that a former associate come out and sue him for sexual assault and sexual harassment. >> have you ever heard about the specific allegation before? >> this is not something that i have ever discussed with cassidy and have not been familiar with until i heard about it. >> to those in the giuliani camp in question why s

. >>> if you missed the whole interview with cassidy hutchinson, you can see it tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. our coverage continues now with one mr. golfs blitzer in a place i like to call "the situation room." >>> happening now, president biden offering an unprecedented show of support for striking auto workers as the first sitting u.s. president to join a picket line. we'll discuss the political impact of his michigan appearance and the economic impact of the strike with the uaw president, johshawn fain. >>> breaking news, a new york judge has found donald trump and his adult sons liable for fraud in a lawsuit by the state's attorney general. we'll break down and it means for trump and the trial set to begin in a matter of days. >>> january 6th star witness cassidy hutchinson sits down with cnn. she's warning that trump remains the most grave threat, direct quote torks american democracy. suggesting that trump knew his words might incite violence at the u.s. capitol. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "th

cassidy: do you agree with mr. tudor at the epa's regulations are forcing the early retirement of assets, and that in no way under the current revelatory regime, have no way to replace it and make up for it? mr. robb: not in the timeframe that we are looking at. sen. cassidy: so you agree with his testimony. mr. asthana, you agree? mr. asthana: i agree we need to hang onto resources that we have today that work, until their placement is here. sen. cassidy: would you also agree the regulatory state is making that basically impossible? you are a regulated industry so you may be hesitant, but you can surreptitiously nod your head yes. mr. asthana: i was trying to give a thoughtful answer. the policy pressure is what is pushing this generation off. that is true. i was hesitating because the most recent epa rule is a proposal -- i'm not sure where it ends up -- but if it ends up the way it is, they will continue to push the generation off the grid. sen. cassidy: even if the proposal ends up guiding bond markets, james c

in her book, cassidy hutchinson recalls this moment with mark adows.would you take a bullet for him, mark asked? my head snapped towar him in surprise. but his eyes were fixed on the stage. i tried to make a joke. it was the only thing i could think of on the spot. yeah, sure, but could it be to the leg? he left. as the president began to wrap up, we walked toward the stage. would you? i asked him. i would do anything, mark answered, looking over his shoulder at me, to get him reelected. cassidy hutchinson also reports in her book that mark meadows had a quote, personal interest, in getting donald trump reelected. saying, i will be the best chief of staff if i can keep him in office. the district attorney's breathe tells the appeals court meadows also undertook actions simply to avoid being yelled at by his boss, then president trump -- meadows assisted with coordinating fake electors across several states, including georgia, in an effort to avoid then-president trump, yelling at him. in cassidy hutchinson's book she writes, as we drove to the airport,

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. >>> cassidy hutchinson is out with new revelations about the coup plotting, including details about aides burning documents in trump's final days in office. also tonight, trump is on deadline, his lawyers have until the end of the day to respond to jack smith's request for a gag order in the d.c. election interference case. the requested gag order would restrict trump from making, quote, intimidating comments about prosecutors, witnesses, jurors and the judge. we'll have more on that clash coming up. but tonight, we start with mounting concerns about trump potentially inspiring new acts of politically motivated violence. late today, fulton county judge scott mcafee ruled that no information about the jurors in the rico case against trump and 18 others will be made public. that means no photographs, video, names and addresses. it's a move to protect jurors, and it comes as trump's language gets more ugly and ominous. trump intensified attacks on the press, and targeted, at aop military official, general mark milley. he noted menaceingly that in times g by, the punishment for milley's