listen up, catholic church. do not mess with the liturgy.t is the infallible word of god which was translated from the latin which was translated from the greek which was translated from the aramaic which, of course, was translated from the original english. (laughter) besides, do you know how long it took me to memorize all these prayers? it was harder than memorizing "we didn't start the fire." (laughter) "our father who art in heaven hallowed be thy name, they kingdom come, thy will be done, einstein, james dean, brooklyn's got a winning team, elvis presley disney land... amen! and get this out. get a load of the so-called improvements. the new nicene creed. the 1700-year-old profession of what all catholics must believe has been tweaked. it now describes jesus not as the understandable one in being with the father but as consubstantial with the father. really? consubstantial? what the hell does that mean? (laughter) we're trying to get into heaven here, not take the s.a.t.s. (laughter) and for the record... (cheers and applause) and for

and you're talking that it's not the catholic church. ou're looking at america, for example, where we're talking about a global church. this is happening in ireland and also traditions will be different on how they manage from a law enforcement point. >> i'm not a catholic but i'm a mother of sons and if someone violated my children -- >> absolutely. catholic or not catholic. >> they would be under the jail. i don't care if it was a coach. he would be under the jail. >> absolutely. you have seen that in america. i have noticed that archbishops accused, he is strong and in the case to deal with these child abuse cases. i think you're starting to see in the northeast and new york and washington here, these archbishops and cardinals they put into place are solid and they understand they have to get this situation handeled. now we turn to the landmark gender discrimination case, dukes v walmart. this year the supreme court ruled the case could not be filed as a class action of 1.6 million women nationwide. but lead plaintiff betty dukes told

they are not all getting raped in the catholic church. are not all git getting raped at penn state. >> no, that's correct. >> this actually is a fact that exists. >> none of us should say that it's somebody else's children getting molested. it's all of our children getting molested and, therefore, all of us have a responsibility to make sure these institutions function properly and don't insulate and protect the exploiters. >> i've got to wrap this up. >> can i just say -- very embarrassing. to think that this is a problem just with joe paterno and his group up there at penn state would be a mistake. it's easy toe attack those people, but the more difficult issue is for every day people seeing children -- çyeah. i -- we agree with paul's point. we'll finish it for him, that the issue is the acknowledgement of the base data, the base reality. >> right. >> and the responsibility whether it's the catholic church or those institutions to assume responsibility for their custody and the way that we all expect. >> i agree, absolutely. >> taylor

state or at least this investigation and how the investigation has also taken place involving the catholic churche so many seemingly striking parallels, one of the first big ones is the male-dominated hierarchy of the church with priests and bishops and the pope himself and the way that might have played a role in the way that a male institution responded to abuse. it is also striking, the parallels not only in how the alleged abuse happened with these men in power taking advantage of their respect that they were accorded and access to boys to allegedly perpetrate abuse, but also the way the institutions responded to the allegation. and in both those instances you had hierarchies which had apparently allowed people to report allegations up a chain of command without the people at the top actually taking those allegations to authority. >> so this code of silence, it is pervasive. and the handling of the situation, once it bubbled to the surface and came to light, still similar? >> yeah. i think so. in both instances you had these hierarchies and they didn't know how to -- the people at the top wer

handled it and holding people accountable. >> at a higher level than it has been the case in the catholic church until now at least. >> right. also i think for the church, a lot of people think this is the church and people who speak for god and god's representatives on earth. they should be held to a higher standard than penn state. >> if you talk to some people, football is say religion and there is parallels in terms of the high regard in which a football coach might be held. therefore is in a position of authority and power in order to be able to really manipulate young people. >> the big difference to remember is that penn state has the ability to fire people and did. it's harder in the catholic church. >> thank you both very much. >>> in illinois, catholic charities stopped providing foster care and adoption service this is week. they wanted to keep the state funding for the services, but continued to provide them only to married couples and single people living alone. that violated the rights of prospective parent, gay or straight, in civil unions that were legal in illinois in june. the

catholic groups and the administration over a proposed health and human services mandates that will require all private health insurance plans in the united states to cover contraception and sterilization in violation of churchching. the religious exemption clause to the mandate is so neuroly written that catholic colleges and hospitals and social services organizations will not qualify, forcing some to drop college altogether. and we're back with dan and dorothy, joining us william mcguerin, wall street journal columnist, explain this. >> it's what you said. a rule that goes into effect next august requiring all employers, not just targeted at religious groups, to provide contraception and sterilization services and in at least one disputed case, drugs that may cause abortion. >> paul: but i thought this was all settled, bart stupak, from the upper peninsula of michigan, i'm not voting unless this is settled. >> in that case, in the obama care, a lot of debate and a lot of people, catholics sided with president obama and a lot of people that supported him last time are complaining. not a lot of dispute. sister carol keenan, one of the famous enabouts for obamacare. >> she was there at the signing. and leade

in the catholic church, the bishops are worship. in the church, the priests are worshipped. >> that's right. i contacted a lot of advocates for abuse victims of the catholic church in recent days to get how they were responding to this scandal. what was striking is they said that calls and e-mails from abuse victims of the catholic scandal were coming in. an in rush of calls and e-mails and people were struck by how similar the institutions responded and particularly the hi hierarchy and in both cases, this is what advocates for victims say. were so taken and so obsessed with the need to protect the image, the sterling images that both penn state and penn state football had and the case of the catholic church. the church that that seemed to override concerns about protecting young children. >> we've seen allegations swept under the rug, even people that knew things were going on swept under the rug within the catholic church and now this expose surrounding penn state. but there's one major difference here. and we haven't seen that in

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. >>> when "christian world news" returns, young hispanics in america are leaving the catholic church to join evangelical congregations and way they do church. >> in the u.s., researchers report a major trend in church demographics, young hispanics raised as catholics are joining evangelical congregations. it will have a significant impact on the on the immigration. >> you are looking at second and third generation that are moving away from churches. >> with the process of integration, a greater pentecostal faith. an issue of pentecostals saying you can bring your culture with us and accommodate accordingly. it is mass customization. above all things a personal relationship with jesus. greater assimilation means greater influx. >> what is it that is drawing them to the church? >> becoming part of the greater canape. i call either know culture contextualization and individual development. formal training in the hispanic training isn't a necessity. if you grew up hispanic in the catholic church, very rigid. it is hard to incorporate yourself in the leadership structure. you can be a lea

. >>> big changes in the catholic church. we grew up with the priest saying "the lord with be with you, and also with you," and now it will be"and also with your spirit." >> we've got the explanation from the highest authority in boston. chris. >> interview: i'm out here with st. pius, it's here at the parish level you'll be feeling those changes, like those phrasing changes you mentioned. and it's all coming in just a few weeks. add special all saints day mass in baltimore. for the an environmental tire order of episcopal nuns now becoming an official community within the roman catholic church. >> a pull any nation of many many childhood dreams and years. >> every catholic church will see sweeping changes as well. for the first time since 1965 the words parishioners recite every week in sunday mass has been updated. >> when this translation that we have been using since 1965 was composed it was done very quickly and they got some of the stepses from the original text. >> reporter: right now a phrase from the new seen crede r

after -- >> i understand that but the catholic church is one thing and sports is something else.ve the pope. >> yeah. but now we finally have a situation in which that statue is coming down, whether it's come down literally or figuratively. he's no longer the hero that he can be. i think that's part of the reason people got so upset because their image of themselves is tied into how the university does in terms of sports. that's a whole different story. but i think that there needs to be -- what the board of trustees did was absolutely right. now there has to be a full investigation, which is also right. steps have to be taken, people's pensions, people's compensation, and criminal accountability and lawsuits now. civil suits. so it's going to be uncovered. >> the checks and balances, look, let's be honest. the checks have been written and balances are been checked. that's the checks and balances going on in big sports as appear dave said, these kidsen be compensated is one of the most sure indexes of the incredible inequality that exists where even thes on sentencible purpose of

another powerful member of the catholic hierarchy. >> reporter: almost ten years ago the boston globe broke the story of priests abusing minors and the cover-up by churchfficials, shattering the archdiocese and the faith of many american catholics. one of its reporters sees parallels in the penn state case. >> the institution overrode the importance of taking care of children. that's what happened here, too. it happened all over the country when it came to the abuse of children by catholic priests. >> reporter: critics say these are institutions of power, secrecy, mythology dominated by men who circled the wagons in a crisis. >> we as a society have to learn we must come down like a ton of bricks on men who hide and ignore child sex crimes. quiet resignations, sudden retirements, that doesn't cut it. >> reporter: in today's new york times jonathan mahler wrote, in both the church and penn state, in the face of a moral imperative to act, chose silence, failing to live up to their own ideals of integrity and honor. no one more so, says mahler, than coach paterno who built his brand on those very values. >> this man who prided himself on molding young men

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>> well, you know, if we take a look at the catholic church and what's happened with the catholic church, you know, they have been covering up abuse for centuries, and you know, it is -- you know, you look at penn state. it's all about cover-ups and this guy knew this and this guy knew that. and you know, the most powerful people are funding penn state were involved as well. it's just one big cover-up after another. >> how can an alleged predator like jerry sandusky exist for such a long time without getting caught? >> it's -- you know, most pedophiles are extremely smart. they are very good at what they do. and they put themselves in a position of power and trust. and you know, then they take not only -- not only do they take the young boy and gain trust with him, but he basically gains trust with every single person around him and every single person that is involved in his life. and that's what allows him to abuse these kids. jerry sandusky took this to a whole other level. he created a charity and a foundation for troubled boys, which, you know, is a pedophile's dream. >> what about

. >> the catholic church may be losing its traditional influence in poland. janusz palikot's new party has come from nowhere to take 41 seats in the lower house with 10% of the vote. he is determined to curb the church and the state. he is gaining support from the young voters who feel led down by the unfulfilled promises of change and reform. >> janusz palikot wants the small crucifix above the door in the polish parliament to go. he says it has no place here. he is a political firebrand and right now a very soughtafter man in poland. his new party called palin's movement had 10% of the votes in the election. he is followed by reporters wherever he goes. he says his party represents the new left. a wealthy entrepreneur, he has a degree in philosophy and his call to have the crucifix removed from parliament has divided the nation. >> it's the worst thing that could happen to us in poland. it's a catholic country. >> it's a good idea to get rid of the crucifix. there should be a separation. >> it's a stupid idea. with proposals like that, he'll lose all of his

here and the money crisis some sex is one thing, the money is another. >> you're telling me the catholic church follows the money? >> new york they saw the money crisis, so everybody turned against berlusconi, including the church, because he had been on -- he had pressed for the social conservative issues the church wants. >> do you think in combination with the -- greek disaster? >> italy could come apart. you're got the northern alliance over there, which is trying to break away. you have this whole thing collapsed, his country could come apart. >> what is the impact of that region, including greece and the problems in germany and elsewhere having on the u.s. economy? >> >>> prediction, pat? >> major foreign policy issue of the 2012 campaign will be should we go to war with iran? >> el tore? >> newt gingrich won't win iowa, but he will get one of the three tickets to go on to new hampshire coming out of iowa. >> tim? >> i think ron paul will get one of three tickets outs of new hampshire, out of iowa into new hampshire. >> new insider trading ban on congress for issue that will come awake in

today in baltimore, they took on the catholic church. wjz is live.o has the protestors' message. monique? >> reporter: well, mary, the protestors want the clergy to create tougher laws for people who don't report sexual abuse. >> reporter: this has some calling for action from another high-profile organization, the catholic church. >> the parallels that are clear between penn state and the u.s. congress or the way bishops are handling the sex abuse case. >> reporter: today, a small group of members, from s.n.a.p., those abused by priests, gathered outside the conference of bishops. >> they can help make the laws tougher, make the punishment harsher. >> in the case of pen spit -- state, the people who hid these crimes, these heinous crimes, were punished. >> reporter: several bishops did speak out on the san dunky scandal. sandusky scandal. >> this is a great regret on our souls as well. for become anyone who would be victimized. >> reporter: one thing that is coming out of this with the penn state scandal is it is getting people energized. >> i think

last fall her parish corpus christy catholic church announced it will no longer allow girls to serve at the altar. >> the people who are making these decisions aren't bad people. they're just making choices that we don't agree with and that hurt our sense of community. and so that we need to find another home that accepts everyone for who they are. >> the church says it made the change in hopes that the altar boy only services would help serve as more of a spring board into the priest hood which needs new candidates. >>> $30 million. that's how much money eight university of maryland athletic teams need to raise to keep from getting scrapped. the school's president announced this decision today to get rid of swimming and diving, women's water polo and acrobatics, men's tennis and men's track. it was purely a cost saving decision to pull the school out of its growing deficit. only maryland basketball and football programs bring in revenue, and those help fund all of the other programs. but it's not enough money to keep those teams viable. >> i want to make it very clear that this is p

and the catholic church is the greatest example of this. we saw time and time again in the church that the bishops and the cardinals put the church's reputation above the welfare of children. they said you know what? if this gets out the catholic church is going to be hammered. because we the catholic church do so much good it's probably good to keep it down. that's what paterno is doing oh my god here we have the penn state football program that does so much good this and that we have got to keep this kind of quiet. i think that's what's going on,juan. >> yeah. i think that's right. and i think that when you talk to the kids, and i did talk to two kids on your show last friday, you know the kids are saying stuff, oh, joe paterno opened up a building here, a chapel here. he is good old joe paterno and somehow excuse what is morally inexcusable because as we said earlier it was 2002 and nothing was done. he allowed sandusky to back into the locker room area. to travel with the team bowl appearances to bring children with hill. as impassioned

the catholic church in the archdiocese alone paid out $100 million. over the years -- >> how many victims? >> i want to say there are 80. in that neighborhood. over the years, it's paid out $2 billion. that's a whole lot of money. now, penn state -- penn state, we don't know how many victims there are. there are eight in the grand jury presentment. but the question is, are there more? and then you have a very profitable institution, penn state football brings in $72 million and change in 2010 and 2011. >> $6 million a game? >> yep. there's one estimate between ticket sales, parking, and concessions on a typical saturday, college in penn state, they pay -- bring in $6 million. the program makes a profit of $53 million. it's one of the top three most profitable programs in the country. so there's a lot of money at stake here in many different ways. >> what's pennsylvania law, the statute of -- there were some issues during the episode of the catholic church. there's usually a statute of limitation. you were telling me yesterday, the state of california

he's dealt with many cases involving the catholic church. and john martin, staff writer for "the philadelphia inquirer." michael, tell me about paterno's hire of this lawyer and what is it an indication of? >> well, it's an indication of just how serious the legal issues are for coach paterno. he's been described as a cooperating witness in the case, not a target or subject of the investigation, but as you pointed out, this is an el ongoing investigation. there are new witnesses coming framed, and there are certainly going to be trials of the principles in which coach paterno is going to be a key witness. anybody in that situation neither a top-flight lawyer. in addition, there is the very real prospect of multiple civil lawsuits here. i can tell you the paterno family and advisers are certainly kerr are concerned about that. they know it's coming. we've seen it as issues in cases of the catholic church and boy scouts, where there have been massive judgments. inevitably the threshold in civil lawsuits like that are much lower than in crimina

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there are a thousand homes, 400 small businesses, 12 churches, including a beautiful polish build catholic churchal, and two schools. they took it by domain. they produced half the jobs they promised, and the church, because there was people trying to save it, john richard and others, the church was bulldozed immediately at five o'clock, the police came, cleared it out, the priests, and they bulldozed this beautiful church that early polish immigrants built; right? >> guest: right. >> host: the church was where the shrubbery of the parking lot of the general motors plant was. >> guest: look, i don't believe in that. i forget the supreme court decision -- >> host: here's the point. the community was half black, half polish, half eastern european living in small, but clean prepared houses with flowers and gardens peacefully. >> guest: sure. i grew up -- >> host: who destroyed it? >> guest: the politicians did if they granted -- how can you grant general motors the right to tear down private homes? domain is that the interstate highway system, and sometimes you can take lands for public purposes, bu

it involved the catholic church, the one dominique said he built for mesquite. >> we're like driving i'm like, no way. i can't believe that. dang, what in the heck? >> theresa let dominique know she had serious doubts about his story. >> he approached me and got in my face and said you've got to believe me, you've got to trust me on this, and you've got to -- and i'm like, you know what? nobody does that to me. >> so she began to snoop around. and what she would discover was even more unbelievable. meanwhile, dominique's wife, jean, still in mesquite, was never with her husband when he was with the wilds. in fact, she was hardly ever with her husband at all. and she was growing more frustrated by the day. so things are not the way they were back at the beginning. >> no. >> your expectations -- >> dropped clean to the bottom. >> she was in the dark about so many things. where was her money? where was her husband? and who was she? >>> coming up -- >> he says, hello, mrs. digiorgio. >> dominique digiorgio's best-kept secrets. >> she's been married to him four months. and i said, what fou

that scandal has cost the catholic church in this country billions of dollars.rchdiocese of boston alone where the scandal erupted in 2002, they paid out $100 million. there is some very big figures on the table when it comes to looking at the financial side of this scandal. richard? >> anne thompson, thank you so much. so far three people are facing criminal charges in the penn state child sex scandal. it's likely to open the flood gate to civil lawsuits. i'm joined by host of judge alex and former florida circuit court judge. what are the legal liabilities of penn state right now? >> it's an interesting question, richard. what we can anticipate a flood of lawsuits absolutely. i can't imagine a case where damages wouldn't be easier to prove -- would be easier to prove than this one. the problem i think is issues of sovereign immunity. penn state may benefit from pennsylvania's sovereign immunity statute. we have to break down exactly how many incidents there were with particular children. number two, it brings up personal liability and joe paterno's personal li