intelligence officials cautioned can be influenced by ccp driven manipulation include operation by ccp directed individuals on us-based pro-democracy advocates, intimidate chinese and chinese-american students at universities and pressure individuals in the united states to return to china including writing families. prc exerts influence through road initiatives exporting terrestrial info structure information and communication technology and other technology areas. this global influence directly impact businesses in the u.s. security interests here at home. one area of competition in commercial tillich medication including satellite medication and broadband medication like spacex star link. for the expansion of chinese tillich medication services would boost beijing's presence in foreign terrestrial network inviting the ccp remote access and enabling it to surveilled users and block internet access and information. i offer a few recommendations to help address these challenges expanding education and awareness and this hearing is important in that regard and remind the america public

this conflict is with the ccp.an authoritarian regime that commits genocide against its own people, censors free speech, not just in china but across the globe, and they aim to end democracy as we know. this hearing is the first of many, but it is a first up on this subcommittee and a greater committee on homeland security which we intend to confront the threats stemming from ccp influence that target our homeland. we will meet ccp aggression with strength, it's deception with unflinching truth, and its attempts at exploitation with justice. we look forward to a bipartisan operation as we all seek effective solutions to combat pervasive threats posed by the ccp to our homeland security. i now recognize the ranking member, my friend from rhode island, mr. -- for his opening statement. >> good morning. i want to thank chairman pfluger for calling this important hearing and thank our witnesses for coming today. i want to thank doctor tyler jost from, -- a long with other expert witnesses. it is an honor to serve as ra

the >> ccp holds a golden share in bytedance, that allows the ccp to control one board seat in bytedances publicly reported? >> that's not correct. >> they admitted to it. >> on our website, we've updated it so we have can give people more transparent information on this, they have a share in the subsidiary that is only for the chinese business, and nothing to do with tiktok. it is for the purposes of contact licensing in china. >> there's not internal ccp committee which is regular thing that happened in china, they have a ccp committee internally inside the company? >> i run tiktok, i cannot represent chinese business. >> i'll talk about bytedance. no arrangement in bytedance? >> here's the main point of concern, china's 2017 national intelligence law states very clearly, quote, any organization or citizen shall support the citizen cooperate with state intelligence working in accordance with the law, and maintain the secrecy of all knowledge of state intelligence work. in other words, bytedance, and also your tiktok employees that live in china, they must cooperate with chinese intelli

everything is on under control of the ccp, so tiktok, all the data, that they collected, belongs to ccp to understand. ccp owes china. >> exactly, and that is what i have read have learned and have understood. you write about this in your latest on op-ed you discuss why china using tiktok to poisons our children we've got governors wanting to ban tiktok you may manipulating children children. >> yes. it is devastating to see that ccp using tiktok to have direct access to the american children and young adults, it is just -- unthinkable that we let it happen but we understand why. it is easy to understand. because it is a tool. also useful for democratic party, just read an article this morning that about biden's strategy they are going to create army have to influence young voters and who we are the young voters they are all on tiktok. >> that is right, we've been talking about that, the administration plays as if it wanted to ban tiktok, i don't think there is a ban anytime soon. because the democrats rely on tiktok for young voters. >> they love it yes, right. i want to mention very e

gordon, the end game in terms of the ccp, do you think the ccp wants conflict with america?nt to take us over without firing a shot, as it's said, and that really has been the chinese playbook, sub vexer. as we look -- subversion. we had the china ambassador to the france yesterday question the sovereignty of the ex-soviet states. china doesn't want to compete with us in the international system. it wants to take that system down. by the way, that system of competing sovereign states has been many in place since 1648, and china wants to replace it with worldwide chinese rule. they call it all under heaven. that's what they want to rule. maria: amazing. gentlemen, great conversation. we so appreciate you both, jonathan ward and gordon chang, thanks for educating all of us on this incredible threat. thank you, gentlemen. >>> quick break, and then china's aggression has been met with very little response from if president biden who did nothing after the ccp surveillance balloon sent military secrets back to beijing in realtime and then covered up the covid-19 cast. we also have

. >> some who fail to learn from decades of ccp behavior has been wringing their hands, wondering ifre being too proto beingive. proto beingive. president if duly elected leader of one of our most important democratic partners can't meet with american leaders on american soil, then we're merely feeding the crocodile that that will eventually eat us. we must not be intimidated. sean: china has responded this weekend with military drills around taiwan that the military calls a stern warning. coming up, mike gallagher joins us to discuss how party's taking it to china and will not waver. we'll also talk with a pastor who is helping christians escape the regime through his china aid organization. plus, american crime crisis, two juveniles including a 1-year-ole facing murder charges in the killing of three teenagers in florida. during a press conference announcing the arrest, the sheriff put the liberal immediate concern media in its place, telling them to the bring the suspects for the girls' death, not guns. >> there are individuals out there viewing, including some of you media, that

maria: wondered ccp would not allow any investigation s whatsoever. in wuhan, now,you are uncovering this, after working on this two years. that it was actually likely two lab leaks, and senator we. you that the circumstantial evidence around the always points to law scientists getting sick around september october 2019 we had a complete shutdown electronic you know, data around that wuhan lab, there was absolutely no activity, and people were questioning that as well, the city of way han like new york city, very busy yet right around the wuhan lab all cell phone data shut down what else can you tell us about your understanding what was behind two lab leaks. >> righted, maria, i think we had a scale in front put all the evidence on one side that supports a national spillover the other on the lab origin 95% on lab origin i mentioned issues going on there, but certainly a lot of intelligence is going on we are going to talk about that in the house today the ep emdeemology, points towards this this virus was too perfect when it came out of that lab too p

>>me some, who fail to learn frm decades of ccp behavior, haveio been wringing their hands wondering're being too provocative.ve but i would submit to you that if the d caniden uly elected ler of one of our most important 'em contact partner thater ins can't meet with american leaders on american soil, that we're merel feeding the crocodile that will eventually eat us. we must not be intimidated. sean: china has responded this weekenspond with military drills around taiwan that the military calls a stern warning. coming up, mike gallagher joinsg us theo discuss how the party o' is taking it to china and will not waver. we'll also talk with bob fu, awi pastor whoth is helping christis escape the regime through his china aid organization.or plus, thgae american crime cris. two juveniles, including a 12-year-old, are facing murder charges in the killing of threee agers in florida. during a press conference announcing the arrests, thef sheriff puput the liberal median its place, telling them to blams the suspects for the girls' death, not the guns. >> there are individuals out there view

it's time to establish our own footing with the ccp.rican people need to understand it but doesn't the tone get set at the top? this president has been so soft on china, it's unbelieveal. they had a surveillance balloon travel half the country all the way up to south carolina and we did nothing about it. the balloon was sending data above our military installations back in real-time to beijing. not to mention all of the other provocations from china, the decades of theft of intellectual property. covid-19 leaking from a wuhan lab and then the absolutely no investigation into that lab. look what's going on on joe biden's watch. is there anything you can see that could change this? >> no. he's too soft. he's simply incompetent and that's being polite. we have deeper concerns as you and i have discussed in terms of being financially come he pro miffed which is why -- compromised which is why i say it's incouple incumbent upon thn people to stop consuming chinese products. we need to pass b bipartisan legislation. that's what the chinese pe

before the ccp first reported cases of covid-19.they also knew the ccp was preventing journalists investigate a global health authorities from accessing the wuhan institute of virology. they also knew that started in 2016 well before this, so the wuhan institute of virology was researching the bat coronavirus with the closest relationship to sars covfefe two, 96.2% similar. the wuhan institute of virology is publish published res gain to function research. and the state department memo also said that the u.s. government determine the wuhan institute of virology collaborated, collaborate on publication and secret projects with the ccp military since at least 2017. and you you know what else we know? we know that dr. fauci at the come into, in many age funded through a grant eco-alliance with a gain of function research. we know that for a fact our government pay for it, our taxpayers unfortunately unknowingly paid for it. so we know all this to be true and we know what was going on at the wuhan institute of virology. mr. lowenthal, w

they always call the ccp a competitor, kt. why is that?ing. >> well, the other thing that despite what the administration says, they don't do anything about it. for example, we are supposed to be giving weapons to taiwan, taiwan has paid for the weapons, the dotted line has been signed. the weapons haven't been delivered. president biden has talked about having stronger relationships with our asian allies and, you know, they have some meetings every now and then but they have not having any sense of mutual security pack and the united states has to lead those efforts and it's not. meanwhile you now have president macron of france, the guy who couldn't wait to get america's help when the crisis of ukraine happened, when russia invaded ukraine now basically telling the chinese president, look, we don't think we should follow america's lead on supporting taiwan effective i will saying to the high niece president, do what you want about taiwan. france is not going to get involved. we will sit this one out. and it just is galling to anybody to

christian, it's been corporate america that has really been helping the ccp.ell to 1.4 billion people. your thoughts on the ceoss getting the memo on national security threats. >> hopefully they're starting to and gallagher is starting a long process of trying to remedy a long set of errors by multiple congresses who thought -- who used to run around around say the only reason china will be our enemy is if we make them our enemy, if we antagonize. that's completely wrong. hollywood in particular, i'm glad he's taking part of the committee out there for an event to spotlight the softness. you haven't seen anything out of hollywood lately about the cultural revolution in china. top gun the remake was at one point edited to remove the taiwanese flag from tom cruise's jacket. it was put back object after an uproar, after it became clear the film would never get past censors in china. other content is censored directly or in advance, tacitly because they're trying to get content in. silicon valley is worse. larry fink is trying to get blackrock and a others into th

but i think that it's a good thing when the ccp tries to tamp down tensions and when it tries to, uh, you know, basically avoid an escalation that could spiral out of control. at the end of the day. i believe that any differences that we ccp, taiwan or anyone else has in that region need to be settled at the bargaining table. and not through any kind of military hostilities. we don't want to cold war hot war war of any kind . that would be completely unacceptable. but in terms of potential military hostilities, you have said. you said today that the u. s will always support the taiwanese in defending their freedom. you said that after the meetings does that mean that the u. s now needs to make clear that american forces will defend taiwan military in the event? of a chinese invasion. that is something president biden, as you know, has said several times and then the white house has walked it back that promise of us involvement. well you know, under the taiwan relations act, we have to have the capacity to resist force to change the status quo to resist coercion or military aggression.

the fact is it is designed to remind everybody they should not forget about the ccp guidance. i don't see to see the u.s. congress start to slow us down and china free reign over ai and we have seen humans have no ability to compete. we put ai on jet fighters in the air force and when the fighters were controlled by ai, every time the u.s. pilots lost the test. >> ashley: seems like the u.s. is nagging behind in technology once again. thank you for your time. to this, u.s. military reveals never-before-seen video of ufo over conflict zone experts warn could be devastating. the pentagon clip shows mysterious flying orb over the middle east in 2022. at ushg fo hearing this week, officials say the case remains unresolved and other than wa ufo's could lead to unintended cross fire and ufo expert telling fox exclusively, the potential for misidentification could be devastating and should be a call to action for the safety of servicemembers. california governor gavin newsom paying surprise visit to san francisco to address the city's fentanyl crisis, but he seems to have more questi

it's a great vibrant asian american community and here fleeing the ccp and they want quality education for kids, they're concerned about rising crime, they want safety on our streets oh the ccp is finding opportunities for espionage. they want people on the ground who can provide human intelligence, there's hacking emails, there's a lot for new yorkers to be on guard but especially if you're in elected office. if you're chuck schumer -- >> why does he get out of it? what does schumer get out of it, political power? i'm not saying money from china. we are talking about democrat politicians seeing in the photos that the daily caller post. >> i think it's about votes. it's a growing more active constituency and interesting because they're majority democrat. last year's gubernatorial race we won the asian american vote. if they're smart they're going to be engaging these people. what they have to be careful about mixed in with these fantastic people are some really bad actors. >> so china sees that there's a growing entrepeneurial asian community in new york l.a. san francisco, it's very p

and the ccp has a vested interest in the denigration of the decline of western power in. so what you have is not only the same level privacy violation, but it might be used to raise a generation of people in europe and u. s. civic, non profit, military government leaders who feel worse about the west. take talk as a propaganda and spy to more countries than just the u. s. are concerned in january of this year. the you won't take talk to respect you law and ensure europeans uses data was safe. tick tock has also been banned from official government devices in canada and the u. banning the chinese up entirely being debated as fear of its influence, especially around elections of high these intelligence organizations see themselves our competitors about our enemies and have a vested interest in diminishing our success, or electing candidates. they feel are more russia or china friendly. so why on earth would they stall our chinese intelligence services manipulating asked via take talk? well, for this to be true, the chinese government would have to directly instruct by dance

we cannot allow the ccp to produce every critical part of our economy.im of the communist chinese. >> there were two separate occasions when joe biden was asked about what happens at the communist chinese invade taiwan. his initial reaction was that we would stand with them and he backs off every single time. what is the right answer? >> we have had a long-standing, u.s. policy, with respect to taiwan under taiwan relations. i think that that policy should be continued. but ultimately, i think you are looking at chinese leader who is much more ambitious than some of his predecessors and when you combine china's strength, his ambitions with biden's weakness, that leads us to a very, very dangerous situation. >> sean: governor, i got to ask the obvious question. a lot of people wondering if in fact you are planning to make an announcement and get in this presidential race. nomination. which would include donald trump and i have one follow-up. >> so i have said from the election of 2022 and people started asking me, we got a legislative session that we are

so the ccp's made clear what it's intending to do. we're going to have to respond.ure, engage allies from japan to australia, philippines, south korea and get ready to provide deterrence in the pacific. they're moving full steam ahead on this issue and we i think -- i think this needs to be a priority and expressed very clearly to the person people. maria: corporate america is not going to do anything different until it is the law. treasury secretary janet yellen will address the u.s./china relationship later this morning. in her prepared remarks, we've got some of that embargoed. this what is she says. we seek a healthy economic relationship with china, one that fosters growth and innovation in both countries, a growing china that plays by the international rules is good for the united states and the world. yellen's speech comes as the white house is preparing to announce an executive order, limiting u.s. investments in china according to politico but i'll believe it when i see it because if they were going to do anything on investments, i assume they would have do

with that, i am proud to introduce my good friend and ranking member of the select committee on the ccp. [applause] >> thank you very much, chair man. thank you, speaker mccarthy for convening this bipartisan meeting. thank you, chairman gillard for leading our house democratic congress. thank you to the reagan foundation for hosting us. we had a wonderful set of meetings with president tsai and it reminded me with something president reagan said 40 years ago at the 40th founding of the united nations. she said, what kind of a people do we want to be 40 years from now? today, we can agree with what he said should be the answer, which is that we want to be a free people firm in the conviction that freedom is not the sole prerogative of the chosen few, but rather an entitlement of all of god's children. in that regard, taiwan deserves to be free. taiwan's people deserve freedom. and they have earned that right. the ccp has promised that if they reunify with taiwan, they will provide a one china, two systems policy. in hong kong, we have seen such a policy in name being implemented. unfort

fauci, multiple bureaucracies willfully or ignorantly colluding with the ccp. that is what bothers me. director radcliffe, you know this committee was formed that we would seek the truth. recommendations to face the future pandemics? with that being said it one last question for you brain your opinion what reason could the administration public officials and federal agencies have for hiding the truth from the american people? that, cannot speak to what effect do you think this have on the american people's trust of the publicpu health official from the government? >> i would say china has been identified by the number one nationstate adversary this will describe the current administration but our intelligence clearly tells us they aren't adversary. their public action. clearly dictate they aren't adversary. the current initiation for whatever reason has been reluctant to confront china on any number of issues or transgressions taken place publicly fromle spy balloon that flew over the country, threats against legislators and landing in taiwan. the list is long.

ccp to go live in m america for a while in until the ccp is ready for next steps? >> maria, it's hard to know. i don't have access to the intelligence. and i haven't seen any good reporting on exactly what did this. but it seems unlikely to me that this is a random event that these folks are just showing up. maybe it's the case that the repression inside of china is driving them away, that they can see that opportunity isn't going to exist for the next generation of chinese families. but i think it is intensely likely that somewhere, somewhere in this group of folks who are coming inside our country across a very open, very porous border today that we can see with our own eyes that the chinese communist party is driving some of those and knows who they are, is following them and just as the police stations are operations, they'll operate against those folks after we allowed them to come here illegally. this is an enormous national security mistake to let these folks into our country. maria: this is so disturbing. final question. what should the administration do ri

now we see the ccp trying to make strategic land purchases across the u.s. and our message is very simple. we will not allow land grabs by ccc backed businesses in our states. [applause] i am happy to be joined here by our first lady, my wife casey. we've got mason on the left, there he is sitting there. over the past four years she spearheaded efforts to help our youth avoid drugs, promote in schools and provide a pathway to transparency for the less fortunate. she also gave birth to our daughter and, most recently fought a battle against breast cancer. i was here last year saying we would be able to announce she was cancer free. i can tell you she is cancer free and doing better than ever. [applause] [applause] [applause] [applause] [laughter] [applause] she has taken her experience and help to lots the cancer connect collaborative which will rethink florida's battle against cancer by breaking down long-standing silos between research cancer facilities and medical providers to provide an improved research and treatment. i want to thank her for taking her e

when they go home they know the ccp is watching their phone. >> dana: a terrible way to live. we have to protect them. a controversial biden administration rule will soon require mortgage lenders to penalize home buyers with a high credit score. a group of 18 senate republicans are demanding to know how this policy decision was made. eric schmitt is one of those republicans and join us now. this would actually hurt everybody who did something right to get their credit score up so they could be responsible citizens. they will be penalized because they did the right thing. >> yeah, it is reason number 573 why joe biden shouldn't be in charge of the united states of america. this is a war on merit. what you said, dana. you play by the rules, pay your bills on time and have a good credit score and rewarded for that under joe biden paying hundreds if not thousands of dollars more every month or every month and every year for your mortgage application. when you apply you get penalized. add this on top of the student loan debt forgiveness scam joe biden put into place the sort of equ

why are americans unwittingly investing in effect funding expansion the of the ccp? will you stop it. >> of course. and i am the number one advocate for what you just said, i am sure that michael mccaul we are preparing legislation, to whack the chinese because that is i what they deserve like i said there are not here for trade they are here for war look what they are doing with taiwan sentenced sending signals taiwan is next why? because we don't have leadership strong leadership, in the white house, will have unfortunately, this is nothing to do with political parties nothing it has to do with american interests, the american interests right now are in danger we understand very well, the threat you just explained why i am -- i am sending the messages that latin america in my regional things are not going well for friendly american interests. >> feels dangerous times right now congresswoman we are watching your work thanks very much maria salazar this jorng. >> thanks to you for the opportunity. maria: good to see you much more ahead you go previewing 2024 presiden

first issue i would address would be to improve and expand the mechanisms in place including addressing ccp backed ownership of the united states land. i would act to understand, investigate and address these purchases to better maintain the integrity of the american market and the security of the american people. >> to watch this and all entries visit our website. ♪♪ >> c-span is your filtered view of government. funded by these television companies and more including cox >> homework can be hard, but squatting in the diner for internetwork is even harder. that is why we are providing lower income students access to affordable internet. homework can be just homework. >> cox supports c-span. along with these other television providers. giving you a front row seat to democracy. british prime minister had questions from members on the uk's government handling on migrants seeking asylum increasing cost for dental care and violent crime. this week's question time is about half an hour. we met. [inaudible] >> question number one, mr. speaker. >> later today i will return to mark the 25th annivers

or are they tried to escape the ccp. >> that is a good question.e in chinese nationals more specifically in the valley sector in mcallen texas paris but we don't know exactly what the background are on some of the chinese nationals coming across the not properly vetted to emigrate coming from any other country they're being released without even knowing exactly what the background are and what their intent and why they're fleeing the country, we do not know but we know for a fact that there is a significant increase in of course is a very profitable to the curb in organizations who smuggle chinese nationals because anywhere from 35000 to $50000 a person to get them across the border. when you're paying that kind of money there has to be a reason why you want to get into the united states. thus not only a public safety but also a national security threat as well and that is something that needs to be looked at. again when the secretary cannot acknowledge a fact that we have a crisis at the border and were allowing this to continue to take place, the

i have great confidence we can outcompete the ccp on the world stage, where we build strong alliancess. congressmen last question, committee members commented after this scenario that they don't believe businesses are taking this seriously enough. what did you mean by that. that is not been my experience. tire is not been my experience. i've been speaking _ is not been my experience. he: been speaking with business executives and investors about the situation, they are watching it closely, and i think they do understand that exposure to china comes with a pretty significant set of liabilities. the ccp doesn't respect the rule of law and is likely their assets are going to be expropriated or at least not fully respected in terms of ip. but two, should geopolitical tensions worsen, supply chains might prove i think american inc needs to take seriously that we need to de— risk and take care of significant parts of our supply chains. ., g significant parts of our supply chains. . ~' , ., , significant parts of our supply chains. ., ,, , ., , . two years after a coup plunged myanmar into c

you have ccp agents targeting people on american soil.aven from persecution not a hunting ground for an authoritarian regime. so these arrests of two ccp agents are a small, but important step going forward. if you look globally, brian, there is over 100 of these things across the world. i mean, this is a global strategy to surveil, harass and ultimately i believe export their model of total totalitarian control where the party controls everything. not just within the borders of china but around the world. this should be very concerning for americans. we need to defend our sovereignty. >> brian: i know you are going to do war games and you have this military background. you are doing war games today. if taiwan was to be invaded how we would be equipped to respond? >> we are. tonight, the committee will be hosting a taiwan table top exercise. >> a few obvious things. the goal of the war games is to identify war. identify our weaknesses and figure out what we can do this congress like resupply and replenish our magazine capacity. stockpile

listen very do you regret attending that last month and getting photos taken with the suspected ccp agent? >> schumer faces mounting scrutiny at his appearance at a gala last month alongside suspected chinese communist agent. new york city mayor eric adams was also at the event and interacted with long he was arrested for the 61-year-old is the member of the chinese nonprofit association that the fbi said was a front for them to run a secret chinese police station in new york city's chinatown. china experts warned the ccp is operating a network of secret police stations, home hometown associations or cultural nonprofits designed not only to intimidate and harass chinese nationals but to try to influence us politicians. records show that his codefendant made some $32,000 in political donations to new york democrats including mayor adams and governor in a statement the spokesperson told fox news senator schumer attended the gala like he has in years past and he never met or did not know who he was and mayor adams in the governor's office they say they will return or donate the political con

maria: ccp threatened us, by the way, during covid, maybe we won't send prescription drugs over theret another issue during covid the white house wanted to giveaway, the secret sauce of covid why get investors to put money to work thinking they are going to make a return if you are giving away the intellectual property? >> -- moderna spoke to that wasn't giving away secret sauce, there are countries that have no money, people you know we live in a global economy if somebody gets covid, in parts of the world where they have no drugs, where they have no vaccines if they come over here, it is still an issue for us. but we can do stuff without giving away as you say secret sauce, innovation is what has -- alexander hamilton learned when he couldn't find a coat to have george washington sworn in with needed to make clothes in america. right? >> -- actually got the ip for looms, he think demanded brought them here he got it. invention. we needed to do it we did do it, and that is what we need to keep doing. it is a terrible time, we have diseases we need to cure. we've talked about this bef