. >> you've got to wonder what folks in paris are saying and how they're feeling, they had charlie hebdo, p the november terrorism. this plane took off from charles de gaulle airport. >> reporter: yeah, exactly ae. they're holding their breath. there are french family whose are waiting anxiously in a terrible position. many of them have gone to cairo waiting for news of their loved ones on board. the rest of france really holding its breath, waiting to hear what caused this, because we know that if it was caused by some kind of terror related device, then that will raise so many questions about the airport behind me here, and as you mentioned, after the charlie hebdo attack, after the paris attack, for there to be a breach in security at this airport would be a real blow, particularly given the fact that they thought that they had increased security, including removing the security clearance of a number of airport workers. that said, again, we don't know. it is possible for a plane to go down without a distress signal, even to suffer an explosion, and for it not to be terrorism related.

i end the book with the attacks on offices of "charlie hebdo" in the same city.his slide shows the number of plots per year. when i talk about plots i include failed, foiled and executed attacks and by individuals and groups that could be defined as jihadi. i refer to anything that emanates from groups, networks and ideology. i use objective jihadi to refer to that. so what i aim to explain in the book is basically what drives jihadi violence. i explain why and how the terrorists strike, when and where they do. by doing that i want to shed light on what goes on within the networks more generally. this overview per year gives some indication as to why plots occur. also, i think, it raises some serious questions about the perception or the term "home-grown." we can see that the number goes up amid armed conflict in western countries such as algerian civil war, the iraq war in 2003-2004. we see an uptick in the plots in connection with the syrian uprising. i also find that escalation in the israeli palestinian conflict may also have affected the threat pattern. as m

the artists at "charlie hebdo" were doing the same thing.ne as they were releasing their interpretations of mohammed that it would end in such a horrific and deadly way in paris? >> no. when this happened in paris it was the day ever for me. i was shocked because some of them were my friend. i worked with some of them. but it didn't come as a surprise in 2015. at that point we had been living with death threats for terrorist attacks, firebombings, and so on and so forth for several years. so it didn't come as a surprise. but i was shocked and very sad about what happened to my friend in paris. kennedy: you see the deadly consequences of fighting for free speech, and many in the media condemned "charlie hebdo" even after the horrific murder. let's talk about this country. i worry about the state of free speech under hillary clinton and donald trump. they both said they would clamp down on the internet and free expression. and to paraphrase, americans value the first amendment too highly. do you think we are in for a rough go for free speech i

together on his -- on his left side you can see one of the brothers who attacked the offices of "charlie hebdo" in january 2015. sharif couchi. beside couchi is another g.i.a. veteran who became a recruiter for al qaeda whose name is begal. begal supervised a terrorist network plotting attacks against u.s. targets in europe in 2001 for which he was arrested and jailed. on this picture here, he was out of jail again. the man right of begal, again, is ahmed liduni linked to begal's network operating baghdad. i don't have time to go into what's going on here obviously, but it's surely one of the most interesting cases i -- or episodes -- that i write about in the book and i think it's the best example of how the generations of european jihad collude in a sense. to explain terrorist cell formation within europe's jihad network, i identify some reoccurring components. all plots involve complex motives. social grievance, personal crisis, as well as political grievance or western interference in muslim countries such as the nation of iraq. nearly all of the terrorists had ties to radical preachers at

and in the same week of the "charlie hebdo" attacks more than 2,000 people were slaughtered in the village of baga in northern nigeria by boko haram. and if you look at our grap up there, that orange line that has ha big steep peak is the number of people talking about "charlie hebdo" and the blue line behind it is how many people were talking about baga. so that was stunning enough because that's a line of u.s. media. we did the same study in nigerian media. and even in nigerian newspapers more people were talking about 20 dead in paris than about 2,000 dead in their own country. so we were able to put this out there, and very quickly "the new york times" grabbed this. and the public editor quoted us as a way of saying we blew it, this is wrong, we need to be figuring out how we change our attention. and i'm happy to say "the new york times" is actually doing a lot more coverage of nigeria than they had been previously. by being able to watch this, by being able to look at where we pay our attention, we may be able to change and shape media. we can also ask questions about how we talk abo

westergaard's cartoons of mohammed went too far for many muslims, as did the satirical weekly "charlie hebdo"'s critical take on islam. a current example is german comedian jan bÖhmermann's poem, making fun of the turkish president recep tayyip erdogan. freedom of the arts and artistic obedience. there's a fine line between the two, even in the authoritarian state of saudi arabia. reporter every evening, friends : come to abdulnassar gharem's studio in the middle of the saudi capital riyadh. there's plenty of creative space here to work in a way that is unusually free. but one person is missing. ashraf fayadh, a poet who's in jail. he had been sentenced to death on charges of apostasy and blasphemy. abdulnasser gharem: ashraf -- unfortunately, he was the guy who destiny chose, but everybody was moved with him. that's not right, that's wrong -- and it works. they changed it to eight years in jail. and i hope in the future it will , be changed. reporter: gharem makes art with rubber stamps, an allusion to the saudi bureaucracy which governs all aspects of life in the kingdom. for him, making h

on november 13, the attacks in paris s and saint denis, and the attacks on charlie hebdo.s the first in the comes to mind. but the foreign minister and president were very careful to say everything is still on the table, all possibilities. we're not ruling anything out. they have experience with that. as you remember, last year with germanwings, nobody could have imagined that the actual reason that came out in the end, it was one pilot locking himself into the cockpit and hammering the plane against the mountain wall in the alps. there's always the possibility of something that could unexpectedly be honest -- on earth -- unearthed, but experts think it is more probable this was a terrorist attack. >> excellent point about the unthinkable actually coming true. talking about a story like this. what about airport security? the plane took off from charles de gaulle. have things changed their? what's happening? max: they were pretty tight beforehand because of the aftermath of the november tax, and also what happened -- november attacks, and also what happened in brussels a fe

before that, of course, "charlie hebdo." talk about the implications if it turns out this is terrorism and something happened here. >> well, it will be such a deep, deep shock to people here. you know, we've already seen that because you had "charlie hebdo," then you had the paris attacks, then you had the brussels attacks. by the way, after those attacks they tightened security at the airport and removed security passes from a number of employees. >> and were feeling about good it, right? >> right. and when you talk to folks, they say this is more secure than the legal standards expect. this is a place that we have looked at, scrutinized. just in the same way as all airports. we're hearing over in the states from l.a.x. and airports there that even without knowing what's caused this, they're already reviewing their security protocols. so how people feel if it turns out to be another terrorist attack or effectively on france as well as egypt, i think they'll feel devastated. >> the psychological aspect, the economic aspect,

if you look at our graph, that orange line is the number of people talking about charlie hebdo and the blue line behind it is the number of people talking about the village in nigeria. that was stunning enough. we did the same study in nigerian media. even in nigerian newspapers, more people were talking about 2000ad in paris than about dead in their own country. very quickly, the new york times grabbed this and the public editor quoted us as a way of saying "we blew it. we need to be figuring out how we change our attention." since then, they have done a lot more coverage of nigeria than they had done previously. by being able to watch this, to look at where we pay attention, we may be able to change in shape media. we can also ask questions about how we talk about a thing. this is work that we did for the world health organization, trying to figure out how the world was talking about ebola. so, ebola is the biggest issue 2014, world in november, the biggest thing that everyone is talking about. we gathered tens of thousands of articles on ebola, and we clustered them together when th

the charlie hebdo attacks in paris last year were carried out with slovakian collectors weapons.t the interior ministry in the capital bratislava, authorities play down the possible dangers. individual extremists are under surveilllance, but not the paramilitary groups as a whole. >> in legal terms, these groups don't exist. if they break the law, then of course they'll be punished. but we can't ban groups like this. because as i say, legally they don't exist. reporter: in the neighboring czech republic, groups like the slovenski branci have long been banned. but in slovakia, a right-wing party is now represented in parliament. michal havran warns that xenophobic paramilitaries could take advantage of the country's new political climate. >> i think they know this is their big chance. they're fighting to become accepted by the public. so their future depends on us -- on what we do with this country and this continent. if we don't resist, their influence will grow. reporter: in private, the commandant of the slovenski branci plays down his weekend activities. but the first-semester

at beginning of last year we asked a question who is paying attention to the attacks on "charlie hebdo" in paris? the answer was everyone, as we should be, brutal horrific attacks, attacks on freedom of the press but these were attacks that ultimately killed fewer than 20 people. in the same week of the "charlie hebdo" attacks more than 2,000 people were slaughtered in the village of baga of nigeria by boko haram. if you look at graph, that orange line with the big steep peak, is people talking about "charlie hebdo" and blue line behind it were talking about baga. so that was stunning enough because that's a line of u.s. media. we did the same study in nigeria media and even in nigerian newspapers people were talking more about 20 dead in paris than 2,000 dead in their own country. we were able to put that out there. quickly "the new york times" grabbed this and public editor quoted us as a way of saying we blew it. this is wrong. we need to figure out how we change our attention. i was happy to say "the new york times" is actually doing a lot more coverage of nigeria than they had bee

charlie hebdo in january, 130 dead. 89 in a nightclub. just dealing with this horrendous death of innocent people. then in brussels a few short months ago. we're going to take a short break and be right back with breaking news. 66 people on board as it approached cairo in egypt. >>> 66 people disappeared when the flight took off from charles de galle airport in paris. these are live images from charles de gaulle airport. it is an airport, a humongous airport. about 30 minutes away from the french capital. you can see reporters are already doing their presentations. the egyptian capital where egyptian air officials and others have set up areas to receive family members of the 66 people on board this flight. you have more information on what seems to be some conflicting reports only flight. >> not unusual in the early hours of something like this. certainly not unusual for egypt. we're now hearing from a spokesperson saying they have not received a distressed signal. we had earlier heard from the egyptian airline that there was some kind of

it the beginning of last year we asked the question, who is paying attention to the attacks on charlie hebdoin paris. the answer was everyone, as it should be. horrific attacks on the freedom of the press. but these attacks ultimately killed fewer than 20 people and during the same week of those attacks, more than in 2000 people were slaughtered in nigeria by northern boko haram. and if you look at our graphs, that orange line with the steep peak are the number of people talking about charlie hebdo, and the blue line behind it is the line talking about nigeria. -- u.s.the line of usb media. we also did a line in nigeria and even in nigeria people were talking more about paris than their own country. very quickly the new york times grabbed this and the editor quoted us as a way of saying, we blew it. this is wrong. we need to figure out how we change our attention. i am happy to say the new york times is actually doing a lot more coverage of nigeria than they had been previously. by being able to watch this, by looking at where we spend our attention, we may be able to change media. we can al

" assault that had "charlie hebdo" assault that had occurred a month earlier in occurred a month earlier in paris, france. paris, france. the attack was essentially the attack was essentially thwarted successfully because of thwarted successfully because of the fact, in part, that the the fact, in part, that the intelligence community had intelligence community had shared information with local shared information with local law enforcement with respect to law enforcement with respect to anticipated attacks on the anticipated attacks on the center, and the prospect of just center, and the prospect of just such an event. such an event. and we, in this country, are and we, in this country, are quite mature and evolved in the quite mature and evolved in the sharing of information in the sharing of information in the counter-terrorism arena. counter-terrorism arena. not only within the intelligence not only within the intelligence community, the federal community, the federal intelligence community, but very intelligence community, but very importantly and critically with importantly

we had the paris attacks, we had "charlie hebdo," we had the paris -- the bataclan. and then you see paris to egypt. you have the juxtaposition of europe and arab world. if this is true. there's extensive naval assets in the area. by the u.s., by the greeks, by other european countries, by the egyptians. they're going to find out what happened to this fairly quickly. i think this isn't going to be one of those malaysian air flights. 70 people as greg palkot pointed out, were escorted out of this airport alone for having ties to islamic beliefs. europe has to step it up, clean this mess up. >> what you see is the easy accessibility for terrorists to be able to you know wreak havoc, take lives and create panic and international alarm dana. from the time you were in the white house if an incident like this happens, talk about the cooperation with the u.s., with the different countries like this, when they're going through an investigation, because we have tremendous assets, especially as it relates to determining what happened in aviation fatalities. >> yeah, think that

what airport authorities did after the charlie hebdo attacks, they went back and said is there anybodyght have sympathy for isis or radical islamist groups. doesn't mean they're a qualified member of any terror organization, it means would they be vulnerble to influence. anyone considered to be that had their badges revoked. they may have been put in another position that didn't give access to secure areas of the airport. to be sure, this will undergo court review, they couldn't fire people, it had to be reviewed by an independent body. i have to add on top of that, they also rejected 600 from getting security badges because of criminal records, petty crime and so forth. it is a stringent review process, but consider that the service to half million flights that come out of here, there are 80,000 employees that need access to restricted areas. that's a lot of people to screen, john. >> a lot of numbers to discuss. atika shubert. thank you so much. very interesting subject matter. we will talk about it. david soucie is back, joining the conversation, national security analyst and former

after the november attacks, after the charlie hebdo attacks before that, there was stepped up security at the airport. they feel confident about that. one more thing is a lot of folks expected late yesterday that this video put out by isis might be a claim of responsibility. not only was it not a claim of responsibility but never mentioned the plane or international travel. again, adding to the deeping mystery about what happened to bring down that plane. >> even more questions. chris jansing, thank you. new polls show a dead heat in the race for president but what can make the difference come november? discover card. customer service! ma'am. this isn't a computer... wait. you're real? with discover card, you can talk to a real person in the u.s., like me, anytime. wow. this is a recording. really? no, i'm kidding. 100% u.s.-based customer service. here to help, not to sell. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis isn't it time to let the real you shine through? introducing otezla, apremilast. otezla is not an injection, or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis diff

airport official they have increased security since the paris attacks even going back as far as "charlie hebdo." they knew that air travel would be a target. we all know that the likes of isis or al qaeda would want to target planes. we know from the brusselss attack attack aviation is a target. in brussels effectively that was a relatively crude attack. a group of people walking in to the front of an airport with bombs and setting them off. this is a completely different thing and that's why french intelligence, u.s. intelligence, intelligence agencies around the world, chuck, will be very, very concerned with this, trying to get answers. so, yes, they will be talking to everyone they possibly can to get to the truth as quickly as possible. >> paris somehow touched by another terror incident again. let's go to cairo, that's where we'll find bill neely. bill, i feel like, i believe the last time you and i talked you were in care jobs we were dealing with an egyptair crash or potential terror attack at the time. that had to do -- excuse me a russian plane but had to do with another terrorist at

this is a place that has taken a big hit, first with "charlie hebdo" attack then what happened in novembert the bataclan and elsewhere and spectre of terror being raised last night. i spoke late last night with an official who just came back from a meeting. among the topics effect of terrorism on tourism and what he has to say to americans who are thinking about coming to france. take a listen. >> people are nervous all the time and every where. but our concern is first to be sure that we have sufficient security and safety, that's the key question. second point then we can welcome people. and we have a stamina to improve the way we are reaching people and especially foreigners. we need people to come. we want them. and really we are improving the way we receive people. >> reporter: there is a visible security here and i asked him whether or not that helped people or made them more nervous. they've come to the conclusion that more people see security and feel secure and some new security here at the airport starting next week that it makes them feel as to this is a place that they can come

understoodwear bomber, the print cartridge bomb that didn't go off, a member of the team that attacked "charlie hebdo" in paris probably got training from al quaida. but one of the core tenants is ingratiating the population, something i.s.i.s. doesn't do. they're gaining ground in yemen. right now they actually doing quite well in yemen. three more affiliates, the most prominent al-nusra in syria, again also working with the local population, working with other groups that fight assad, no longer only focused on the west. a.k.i.m. in west africa is grabbing head lines and al-shabaab, totally focused on the somali government and kenyons who have come into somali. al quaida still fields the team, still on the field, but not a lot of long passes or touchdowns, trying to gain two or three yards at the time and while the koch isn't liked well by the players, can't communicate well, the bench is still weak but a threat. >> sreenivasan: thanks. > the raid by blanden's compound was watched closely by president obama. among them leon panetta watched the raid unfold in real time from the agency's langley headq

there will be a sense have devastation here because they have been on alert because they saw the "charlie hebdo" attacks and the subsequent attacks in paris back in november. and of course since then we saw the attack in brussels. remember there they attacked an airport. so it was very, very clear that airports would be a target. so again, if they -- if this is terrorism related, then there will be so many questions about what is -- about the kind of failures. by the way, though, isn't it incredible to see aircraft still coming by. we're talking about this. we don't know what caused this and yet the world keeps turning. people keep getting on planes. aviation keeps going. >> and we've seen a number of egyptair flights as well taking off. keir simmons, thanks as always for your insight. authorities right now scouring a wide swath. this is a sizeable area south of the greek island of crete. greece one of several nations helping egypt in their search efforts. this morning there's been reports of human remains and suitcases as well found during the search in the mediterranean sea. lucy is on the is

officials here have put in place some changes in the security protocols in recent years, after the charlie hebdo attacks, in fact, members of the staff here had their security clearance removed because of further intelligence investigations, prior to all of this. thomas, it's now midnight here in paris. 24 hours ago that flight was in the air, an hour into its flight. and they are still looking for the wreckage of that plane in the mediterranean. just to clarify, what it looks like happened, by the way, is that the greeks are saying that they studied the debris that was found. and on closer inspection it turns out to not be the plane. so the search will resume at first light. you can see here now that it is dark here in paris. it will be dark, too, across the mediterranean. but that search will be absolutely crucial. and we have been talking through the day, thomas, too, about if it does turn out that there was a bomb on board this plane. and we don't know that. we simply can't say that. but the evidence that there may have been an explosion points perhaps in that direction. if that turns out to

"charlie hebdo" early in the year prior to that.nd then brussels right on the heels of that, in an art. >> security was already heightened at paris airport at l after the brussels attacks and remained at that level and was heightened today when this flight left paris. it's the things that we take for granted that people go after. certainly isis, in their magazine where we saw the picture of that can, this is what they said they're going to do. that they're going to go after the things that people rely on, that they take for granted. air travel first among those lists. we're going to see emergency government meetings in france today. we'll see emergency government meetings in egypt. that is what we are going to be looking at in the next 24 hours as this unfolds. >> we should say we do not know what has brought down this plane. we don't know if it's mechanical failure in a cataclysmic way. we don't know if it is a bomb. but the fact that we are discussing isis, it gives them a level of credibility because we're attributing to them eve

. >> those horrible attacks in paris at charlie hebdo and in november where 130 people were killed in three different parts of the city, and then the search for those terrorists and the brussels connection. charles de gaulle is an extremely secure airport. and this plane was leaving from charles de gaulle to egypt, another country that had been involved and has been the victim of terrorist attacks. >> yeah, exactly right. and so that's going to be something that they are going to be looking at and remember, we know that islamist extremist groups have always wanted to target aviation. we know that, for example, from the attacks in brussels where they attacked brussels airport. but, of course, when you think about that attack, for example, it was in the big picture if you like, relatively crude. those men walking in with bombs in their bags so to be able to have an effect on a plane like this, just a note of caution. we don't know whether terrorism has anything to do with this. but to have that kind of effect on a plane like this, flying out of this kind of airport, well, that would be

you had the charlie hebdo attack and then in november you had a series of attacks including the stadium. if there is some sort of connection to terror and if that terror connection traces itself back either to france for bruss brussels, you can imagine the ramifications of that. french officials had sent a team earlier to cairo. those officials essentially the equivalent of the ntsb in france. had their first meeting earlier today so they are cooperating on this investigation. we have not, and are not expecting a further update today as evening begins to fall over paris, thomas. >> chris, it's been reported authorities are focusing attention at the possible security holes at charles de gaulle airport. the plain made five different stops out of the last leg of paris. what are they looking for or working theory why that airport could be vulnerable? >> reporter: they're looking at all the airports and pushing pretty hard in france at least initially. it is known the security here, and i saw it when i was here in november and saw it as i got in here this morning, very tight in fact, more th

obvious obviously "charlie hebdo" and just the possibility there could be some terror-related motive here, something that could have started at the airport behind me, charles de gaulle airport, making people nervous. i talked to a tour official who was back last night from istanbul in a meeting of european countries. one of the topics of concern was will suspicions of terror, concerns about terror this summer keep tourists away? here's what he told me. >> it's a concern, i agree, but at the same time we cannot let these smart people win. we have to go on going to the restaurant, to the hotel, to the theater, and we have to live. so that, i think, behind it people cannot avoid danger. terrorism can be a car crash, it can be whatever. >> reporter: obviously tourism and business officials with a real vested interest in what the outcome is here. and the new information, you saw some of the pictures today, that late yesterday we saw some of the debris that came up. that helps them to determine where this area is that the plane may have gone down. one of the things that they'll be looking

hebdo. on charlie this slide shows the number of blocks per year. fail, spoiled, and -- foiled and executed attacks. jihadi, i mean anything that emanates from the -- what i aim to explain in the book is what drives jihadists to europe. i think how and why these terrorists do. i want to shed light on what goes on within the networks more generally. per year gives to what istion as multiple terror and raises serious questions about the perception and the term "homegrown." see the number go up in the mid-1990's. we also see an uptick. we find the escalation in the israeli-palestinian conflict that may have affected the threat pattern. i say this book because the events coincide in time, but analysistitative indicates this. the only event inside europe that profoundly affected attack activity was the danish platoon in 2005. there was a substantial increase in the number of terrorists in scandinavia and most of these were aimed at people and institutions involved in the cartoons.n the it has been in france and the u.k. most exposed. what is interesting

middle east into th and to the earthquake in haiti to the scottish independence movement and the "charlie hebdo" and november 2015 terrorist attacks in paris. just interviewed numerous heads of state including president barack obama and george w. bush as well as senators, governors and foreign dignitaries. before time, she was a small for bloomberg or she covered the white house, congress and the 2004 presidential campaign. she received an m.s. in journalism from columbia and an undergraduate degrees in international relations and art history from tufts university. she was a 2015 harvard institute of politics fellow at the 2016 new america foundation fellow. welcome. [applause] >> tonight second panelist is the honorable kay hagan who serve as united states senator from north carolina from 2009-2015. prior to her time in the u.s. senate she served and the north carolina senate from 1999-2009. after taking office in january of 2009 senator hagan served on four committees the armed services, banking, housing and urban affairs, small business and not a partnership, and health education labor and p

>> you know, if there is anything positive that came from the "charlie hebdo" attacks and the tax lastreness by france and other european countries that the threat is real. for many years there was this, sort of almost snobbish attitude that the u.s. was being paranoid. that we were overreacting to terrorism. we used to get so much resistance from european countries about sharing terrorist information on passenger manifests and flights, that has changed. french are getting tough. president holland i give him credit. he is moving in tough way but again, this is problem that has been building for years. we were slow getting into the game but since september 11th we have been getting into the game. too many european countries thought this was american problem. president holl land, he has martial law situation which we don't have in this country. we have issues in this country with isolated members of the muslim community but it is not a muslim community in revolt like in trans. they have large sections of muslim community are pro-islamist. bill: sympathizers too, far more than many care t

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they had exhibited a cartoon show with respect to the prophet mohammad in protest of the tragic "charlie hebdo" assault that had occurred a month earlier in paris, france. the attack was essentially thwarted successfully because of the fact, in part, that the intelligence community had shared information with local law enforcement with respect to anticipated attacks on the center, and the prospect of just such an event. and we, in this country, are quite mature and evolved in the sharing of information in the counter-terrorism arena. not only within the intelligence community, the federal intelligence community, but very importantly and critically with our first responders, through a network of fusion centers and other mechanisms we share information in as realtime as possible with state and local tribal law enforcement so that those individuals are equipped to protect the public whom they serve. that level of evolution and maturity does not yet exist in the realm of cyber security. and yet, it is no less a security imperative. in fact, there is something unique about the cyber security realm

france and belgium have a series of attacks going back to charlie hebdo and other attacks. they're vulnerable to attack from al qaeda or isis or one of the other groups to try to put a weapon or bomb on an aircraft. so they're aware of that and they do these sweeps, but miles is correct, back door of the airport, we had at atlanta where delta flights were used to shuttle guns illegally to new york city, an informant turned it in, said yeah. in that case the employee gets on the airport grounds with a bagful of guns, goes into the airport, meets his partner who has already gone through security and trades did you feel bags, and gets hundreds of firearms on the delta flights. if we have that vulnerability, which we do, how can you throw rocks at cairo or paris or other airports and say their security is inadequate. the concern now is pressure on tsa about shortening lines, will pressure from the public -- >> you can't make it 100% safe. stay with us. new information is coming in. after this break, we're going live to paris. safety doesn't come in a box. it's not a banner that

they had exhibited a cartoon show with respect to the prophet mohammed in protest of the tragic "charlie hebdo" assault that had occurred a month earlier in paris, france. the attack was essentially thwarted successfully because of the fact in part the intelligence community had shared information with local on for the with respect to anticipated attacks on the center. and the prospect of just such an event. and we in this country are quite mature and involving the sharing of information into counterterrorism arena. not only within the intelligence community, the federal intelligence community, but very importantly and critically we are first responders to a network of fusion centers and other mechanisms, we share information and as real-time as possible with state and local, tribal law enforcement. so that those individuals are equipped to protect the public whom they serve. that level of evolution and maturity does not yet exist in the realm of cybersecurity. and yet it is no less a security imperative. in fact, there is something unique about the cybersecurity realm that really underscores

again, i'm not putting this on the entire muslim population, but there are as we saw from "charlie hebdoe saw from the attacks last november, there's much more hostility in france, and i know that french intelligence and french security has been worried about the employees there. they try to crack down, try to tighten up their security measures, but there are still concerns you would have islamist sympathizers working at the airport. >> of course, we've been having problems with the tsa here in the united states with not enough agents at security checkpoints and long lines. and when something like this happens, does this heighten your concern? >> yes. i'm more concerned about an insider threat at the u.s. airports. as far as the lines at the airport, that is more a matter of delay and it's inexcusable. it's not as much of a security issue as i would say the insider threats are. however, if you do recall, last year when the inspector general for the department of homeland security discussed it with the tsa, it found a lot of dangerous materials were getting through. that has been improved

they had exhibited a cartoon show with respect to the prophet mohammad in protest of the tragic "charlie hebdo" assault that had occurred a month earlier in paris, france. the attack was essentially thwarted successfully because of the fact, in part, that the intelligence community had shared information with local law enforcement with respect to anticipated attacks on the center, and the prospect of just such an event. and we, in this country, are quite mature and evolved in the sharing of information in the counter-terrorism arena. not only within the intelligence community, the federal intelligence community, but very importantly and critically with our first responders, through a network of fusion centers and other mechanisms we share information in as realtime as possible with state a local tribal law enforcement so that those individuals are equipped to protect the public whom they serve. that level of evolution and maturity does not yet exist in the realm of cyber security. and yet, it is no less a security imperative. in fact, there is something unique about the cyber security realm th

i end the book with the attacks on "charlie" and the offices of "charlie hebdo" in the same city two decades later. this slide shows the number of plots per year. when i talk about plot, i include failed, foiled and executed attacks by individuals and groups, networks that could be defined as jihadi and by jihadi i prefer to anything that emanates from the foreign fighter movement of the african jihad, groups, network, and also ideology. i use the objective jihadi to refer to that. what i aim to explain in the book is what drives jihadi in europe, and and why these terrorists strike when and where they do also and by doing that i want to shed light on what goes on within the networks or within the networks more generally. this overview of plots per year gives some indication as to why plots occur. and it also, i think, raises some serious questions about the perception or the term "homegrown." we can see that the number goes up amid armed conflict in western countries such as the algerian civil war in the mid 1990s. the iraq war in 2003, 2004. on the overview there. and also we see a

85 employees at charles de gaulle airport to have their security credentials revoked, since the charlie hebdo was in t uni es, and great concerns that parts of the developing world have lagged behind in terms of airport security having the latest generations of machines, best training, and rigorous security protocols in place to protect against the insider threat and we've seen a couple of attacks in africa an the middle east, in recent months, where the insider threat has led to bombs getting on planes. notably in october last year, over the sinai peninsula, the isis affiliates in that area managed to get a bomb on to a russian metrojet, blew it out of the sky. in february of this year, the al qaeda affiliate, al shabaab, managed to get a sophisticated laptop device on to a plane. they recruited two airport worker fos are that attack and put it on an x-ray belt, got it through that, perhaps because they worked it he airport, they weren't given as much scrutiny, got it on the plane, fortunately it did not take out the aircraft, it managed to land a few minutes later. but not too far away from