, the infamous night in charlottesville. i was there when this statue was dedicated in richmond. it looks benign enough. it's lincoln and ted visiting richmond, supposedly, in 1865. and this is the demonstration that occurred on the day it was dedicated. i showed you lee. in richmond, of course, the great series of statues as great art. some of them are great. this one is great. some of them are not. jefferson davis. and some of the responses are not. arthur ashe, for example, at the end of monument avenue. then we get to the recent period where these statues have been removed. mayor landrieu had statues removed in new orleans. here are some other removal work being done. roger tony once stood -- this may not be that statue, but he once stood in front of the statehouse in annapolis. and right next to it was thurgood marshall. [laughter] harold: what is more powerful? what is more powerful, the juxtaposition of a man who said black people could not be citizens and have no rights which a white person is bound to respect, next

then it will -- the ball will be back in charlottesville's court. i think at that point, probably lee and jackson will come down. i'm not sure. i think that's what will happen. i think it's appropriate that it's settled in charlottes vilas i think it would be appropriate it's settled in each of the other localities. i don't see any national surge to pursue this and deal with it. the interest in these statues spikes. i've seen it throughout my life interested in civil war history. when i was a graduate student -- i will stop in a minute. >> that's all right. >> there are statues on one plaza at the university of texas that were funded by a confederate veteran named george w. littlefield. there were statues of jefferson davis and robert e. lee and albert sidney johnston along one part of the campus. those have become an issue. it flares up and dies down and then flares up again. the arguments are always pretty much the same on the two sides. either in favor or against. in awe continuustin, those have. they are in -- davis is in a museum. >> i want to

and his mother was born free in charlottesville, virginia, the desen tent of free and enslaved people of color tied to jefferson's monticello. and sisters were born at their maternal grandfather's farm despite a convergence between black enslavement and freedom along with former slaves called river jordan. the relationship between earlier 20th century black nationalism and ties to antebellum abolition was a product of syme biosis: it shaped his adult demand that black communities agitate, agitate, agitate as he said for racial justice and civil rights. like wise trotter's -- argued the current colonial order and facilitated the spread in the black abolitionist moment. there was fertile ground in what kelly called black freedom dreams. for slavery north of the mississippi river which attracted many rivers of what they called african-american's founding generation. these black self-sufficient farming settlements between the western appalachian mountains and cincinnati attracted people from eastern virginia. the story trotter and others shown many of the people were free and quasi free p

his mother virginia itemizes trotter was born free in charlottesville virginia. with free and enslaved people of color with ties to thomas jefferson's monticello both trotter and his younger sister seen here what 1874 elizabeth saturday morning 1883 were born after their maternal grandfather far farm in chillicothe ohio, the site of convergence between black enslavement and freedom along with former slaves called river jordan. the relationship between early 20th century black radicalism reand munro trotter's family and kinship ties to antebellum radical adolescent is was an ever evolving pit political symbiosis. trotter's childhood among black activists and political independence in ohio and massachusetts shaped his adult demands that black communities dictate, agitate as he said or racial justice and civil rights. likewise trotter's faith black lab radical tradition could quote, disorder the current colonial order, take family and kinship ties facilitated the spread of a radical black politics rooted in the militant black abolition movement of the 1840s and 1850

we cannot -- the best example of what i saw after charlottesville was what happened in boston, 10 or 20,000 people from boston came out, no fights, no arrests, they will never come back to boston but they will go back to charlottesville, berkeley, and other places because they got the responses they want. >> time for one last question. >> i wonder if you could share some insight into your experience when you were in the gangs what was going on in your head in your heart because most of us are here because it is hard to comprehend that people feel this way but a big component of making a change is understanding. you mentioned icp components but i am wondering you personally, did you at the time you were in those gangs did it feel true for you that this was important to do or was there part of you that thought it because morally you thought it wasn't right? was there conflict or did you feel brainwashed? i'm curious some insight because we don't understand, we can't comprehend what you experienced? >> it was confusing. i didn't understand it but i knew the price of admission was to be

but when the charlottesville, the rally happened in charlottesville, as attorney moment for me because i remember seeing the images of the men marching in the streets, we can all remember the racial slurs and everything, it was like a light just clicked over for me that i had things that had been growing up inside of me for many months about things i was observing and for life coaching space, spirituality, personal growth space that i could see was white the premises, people who looked like me were the minority, people who look like people in this room for the majority and i wanted you don't wife. my? is it because people like me didn't do this kind of work. week being excluded from being seen as incredible people? i wrote a letter called i need to talk to spiritual white women about right to privacy and i was addressing things that would blow up within me and asking people in that space to look at you say you want to change the world, heal the world, you say you are about love and life, you say you don't see color but racism is running rampant in this space and we need to have a conve

but in 2017 when the charlottesville, you know the unite the right rally in charlottesville, it was a turning point moment for me. i remember seeing the images of the men marching in the street, we can remember, torches, the racial slurs and everything and it was like a light clicked over for me and i had things that had been brewing up inside of me for many months about things i was observing in the life coaching space, the spirituality wellness, personal growth space that i could see w was with white supremacy, and people like me, and people in the room were majority. why was that the case? was it that people like me didn't do this kind of work or were we being excluded as being the experts, the leaders, the credible people. so i wrote a letter, an open letter called, i need to talk to spiritual white women about white supremacy and i was addressing things that were brought up within me and asking people in that space to look at. you say you want to change the world, heal the world. you say you're all about love and light. you say you don't see color, but racism is running rampant i

they are the bad people marching in charlottesville. i am not one of those people. i can't even hear this. so then we have what i call the basics which allows you to understand that white supremacy is not a fringe thing of only some people but it is the whole believe in consciousness that all of us have been conditioned by in different ways so then you are more open to the idea to have anti- black thoughts but i have all these other things. >> and then the people who were speaking what challenge you put to them next. the other thing you mentioned in the book but it wasn't just your voice out there and they were responding online and those that were working through the issues as a layperson and those that we are added to the conversation. how is that when you went to create the workbook? >> the biggest surprise to me was that out of nowhere black women i didn't know showed up to help voluntarily. did not have to do that. and my instinct was try to protect them. but they showed up and help me to facilitate the work and collectively were so intra- goal to me because hi

but in 2017 when the charlottesville -- the unite the right rally happened in charlottesville it was a turning opinion if remember he illinois offed the men marching in the street, we torches and racial slur and a like collect on for me and i had things that had been brewing up in inside of me for many monthed but things i was observe egg in life coaching space, the spirituality, wellness, personal groel space i could see what white supremacy. was that people who look like me, a minority. people who looked like the majority of people in this room were the majority and i wanted to know why. why was that the case, because people like me didn't do this kind of work or were we being excluded from being seen that's experts, leaders and credible people. wrote a letter, an open letter called i need to talk to spiritual white women but white supremacy. and i was addressing things that were brought up within me and asking people in that space to look at. you say you want to change the world, heal the world you say you're about loving life and you don't see color. but racism is running rampant

less valuable or wasteful purposes a great example is here are my hometown i'm sitting in charlottesville virginia right now and a couple of years ago a large brewery wanted to come in establishing themselves here in charlottesville and the local officials after taking a look at how much water we had available said you know we just don't think we can accommodate you and i think that's responsible sustainable water management is being able to make decisions about how you can use water where you can use water how much water you can use and so that role of governments is really really important now on the flip side there is of course huge responsibility on the parts of the investors in the corporations. to use the waters efficiently as they can not to waste the water and and also to knott's to not settle to not develop businesses or establish new farms or grow crops that are inappropriate in water stressed areas that's quite a supply and demand example you've given us in a big college town certainly there's demand for bruno but there just wasn't enough water to supply yeah i tell you a lot o

racists either bad people, they marched in charlottesville. i am not one of those people. can't even hear this. i started with the basic, what those do is white supremacy, what some people do. all of us in different ways. when you get to week 2, the idea that maybe i have anti-black thoughts may be. i had all these other things that resonate. >> on that same line, people were speaking, the challenge putting to them next. the other thing you mentioned, the difference between the book and the challenge, people were responding, and some people working through the issue, to confront and deal with it, other people chiming in, women of color, how did that influence you when you went to create the workbook? >> the biggest surprise to me was out of nowhere black women help the situation to work. voluntarily. they didn't have to do that and my instinct was to protect -- don't look at this, you don't want to read this but they showed up and helped me facilitate the work and they collectively were integral to me. i have two of my closest friends here, black women, they - that sisterh

and charlottesville virginia opting not to read schedule. the american library association announced the cancellation of their annual conference in june in chicago. the festival of books originally set to take place in april has decided to hold their 25th annual festival in chicago. it has also decided to push back their scheduled dates to july. five of the largest book publishers decided not to attend regardless. bookstores around the country are trained to provide remote services through online sales and virtual author events. as stores had closed their doors and move to online sales and they've also cut back on their staffing and many of the publishers had decided to delay the release of many books. him have laid off staff in several book distribution centers had been temporarily closed. but tv will continue to bring you new programs and publishing news. you can watch all of our programs anytime. >> and a recent talk in hamilton ohio. they argued that solutions to come from the bottom up. >> most politicians i am going to give you a coupl

but in 2017, when the charlottesville, the you write rally happened. it was a turning moment for me. i remember seeing the images of the men marching in the streets which we can all remember, the racial slurs and everything. it was a lights just clicked over for me. and i had things that had been brewing up inside of me for many months. about things that i was observing the life coaching space. wellness and personal growth space. i could see was white supremacy. those people who look like me, or the minority. people who looks like the majority of people in this room, where the majority. i wanted to know why. why wasn't the case. was it because people like me did not do this kind of work for we being excluded. from being seen as the experts. so, i wrote a letter, and a political need to talk to spiritual white women about white supremacy. i was addressing things that are brought up within me. i was asking people that space to look at, you say you want to change the world and heal the world. you say you're all about love and light. you say, you don't see

the question about charlottesville, and it very much goes to the politics of the city council there, and it also goes to the racial politics of the city. historically the african-american community has been marginalized there. their sensitivities have not been considered by the city council. and this particular vote was, as in so many things that go on in politics these days, it's about the symbols of who is considered legitimate and who is not. okay. and those symbols are shifting all the time and contested in our country and you can think of all sorts of examples and other places other than charlottesville. >> [inaudible] >> well, okay, let me answer the question. okay. now the reason it was done is because there is a long tradition of african-americans feeling like their sensitivities have been ignored in the city and this was an effort by the city council to say-- well, again, i think that's an extreme way of putting it, and if i can finish what i'm saying here is, i understand the sentiment behind it, i don't think it was the right way to go. okay. because again, it plays out th

nbc embed is live in charlottesville, right near the university of virginia.h a good morning to you on this sunday, how are financial setbacks affecting schools and students at uva and elsewhere? >> good morning, alex. it's been a really tough issue for a lot of these schools, and of course, students are caught in the middle, too. just down the street at uva in charlottesville, virginia, i spoke with officials who told me that cares act funding that's supposed to come to the universities hasn't come in yet which is leaving them in a tricky situation. they're dipping into philanthropic funds and donations to help students with marriage needs, things like food, medication, technology to help with zoom classes and as finals are coming up, students are cramming. some aren't sure if they're able to return in the fall in the same capacity they're in now. i talked to some students who said they might be returning as part-time students. there's been a lot of issues across the board. a school in new york, actually, i spoke with a student who told me she isn't sure she'

. >> guest: my point was it was written during a specific time during charlottesville. remember right after charlottesville i went to go see the movie and i was watching and it ate me think so much about writing and journalism and about control. u.s. control of the camera and who gets to rehabilitate and who doesn't had while watching that movie i understood the story and i understood obviously because it was so bizarre. member 1994 and tonya harding and it was ridiculous and bizarre and the whole thing but it was a serious issue for me too because you're watching this film and thinking okay there something about her rehabilitation. why do we care about tonya harding right now and there was a certain level of whiteness in that film where you could see people relate to her and humanize her and it made me think about writing and controlling who gets humanize and he doesn't. i thought about it from the standpoint talking about the character it made me think of colin kaepernick and made me think about why color in kaepernick never got rehabilitated -- rehabilitated in that

harvard based study on the correlation between covert 19 and air pollution he joins us live from charlottesville virginia via skype so this must be really important information for a lot of people and how many people live in places around the world deemed to have an unacceptable quality standard and what does this mean for them absolutely you know we're talking about millions of people around the world it's up to me to buy scientists that more than $5000000.00 people die early every year due to exposure to air pollution and so that's especially concerning in light of the current pandemic situation because we know that the same help problems that put people at risk of severe complications from cope at 19 are the same problems that are worsened by long term exposure and short term exposure their pollution has spent in black americans are already being hit hardest by the coronavirus and you've reported that air pollution the air pollution burden is also higher for them can you explain that. absolutely you know we have seen in the united states a legacy of environmental injustice and systematic raci

. >> let's hear from arlotta and charlottesville north carolina. >> good afternoon and thank you so much for this opportunity. >> thank you. >> i'm fascinated to be speaking with you for a couple of reasons, i do want in pittsburgh pennsylvania when they were talking about the pittsburgh crosses -- knowing his legacy and how it came into my life and his grandson coo. absolutely. >> my question is a little different, do you think our society and talking about in our country and what can we learn from your memoir, what are your thoughts about that and how it applies to deciding today. >> thank you. great question and i'm also very close to that family. i love hearing about roberto. i think the most important thing about children is that one, to get an education. they don't offer the option as they move forward in life. but the other thing we talk about voice and finding invoice. i'm hoping that children or adults read or watch my own development of voice at age 13 i started to lose my voice and it was part of the protest generation so i certainly marched on women's issues in south africa,

and with charlottesville it very much goes to the politics of the city council and also goes to the racial politics. and then to be marginalized with their sensitivities had not been considered by the city council. so this was that goes on in politics. who was legitimate and who was not. and you can think of other examples. >> this is a long tradition of african-americans feeling like this and their sensitivities have been ignored in the city but if i could finish i'm saying that i understand the sentiment behind it. so it plays out in the country they are rejecting jefferson and everything about him. i find it difficult to talk about the book with people in the press today . . . . it was t thing ever because the declaration of independence, creator of democracy, separation of church and state, louisiana purchase. it's a pretty winning record and people just didn't talk about slavery. when i see people i mean people were running history and journalism and so forth. it just wasn't part of the story. we shift and then people are suddenly playing catch up and say wait a minute they are 40% of

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> the thing for me reading about washington most were enslaved people, and i think, i live in charlottesville and when i went up there and they talked about it in those terms most people jefferson saw most of the time the people that he enslaved and they radically changes how you think about these men and how they must have thought about themselves because it wasn't a salon every day with, you know, all the others. buddies. >> it was from sun up to sun down seeing the people into thinking at some point. i don't know if i have a question, just an observation i find it very -- spinnaker and there is something very worthwhile in thinking about and intalking about washington was always so impressive to me that he thought about all these new schemes and inventions. to maximize the profit and labor, to make sure that he was a prime and i think that is important because we do think of them as sort of like doing important work overtime. they were messy, they were drama queens and they would. also cruel. it's important they understand that washington would hang out with his wife and make ends enslaved

part of this president that will go down as sort as significant as good people on both sides in charlottesville, grabbing women in the bleep, his suggestion that people might inject dis disinfectant to clean their lungs. >> politically damaging that moment was for the president, look at how it's taken on three full days for the administration to come up with an explanation for what happened. at first, the white house accused media outlets of misrepresenting the president's comments even though they were plain to the naked eye on videotape. then the president claimed he was trying to be sarcastic, but no trace of sarcasm in the exchange. and then we heard from dr. birx over the weekend say this is just how the president likes to have these discussions out loud. he was talking to the department of home land security official and this is his normal process of discussing new information. makes him such a smart guy, the issue is this all played out on live television before tens of millions of americans, many of whom who tune into these briefings to get raw information, facts, guidance, statistics,

. >> and the president is saying -- >> the president one upped his charlottesville comments by saying liberate your states. >> right. >> they're coming after your second amendment, too. what the hell does that have to do with kivtcovid. what kind of president tells the people to liberate their state. >> if you're going to stand up for one group, mr. president, stand up for everyone, don't call one s.o.b.s and the other upstanding citizens. go it to go because i got a bunch of breaking news. i'm going to lose my cool and composure and i may lose my job in the same breath. >> you're not going to lose your job. your job is to be passionate and to be smart and to give people what they need to know. >> look at those cheeks. >> ooh, i've been eating chris. you got to help me when you're done. we got to work out. >> listen, i'm a shell of myself. i'm telling you, now is the time to attack, don. if you want the crown, come get it. the big dog is weak. >> i love you. i got to go. i'm glad you're getting better and your family. my love to cristina. >>> this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. the

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it's one of the reasons why, for example, after the charlottesville attack, he showed solidarity with the neo-nazi protesters there. in this case, he's trying to show solidarity with these folks, saying, i stand with you. i believe in what you believe in, which is getting back to work and reopening this economy. and he has defended their right to protest, which is in direct violation of the social distancing guidelines that his own administration has put out. he also, by the way, has said that when he looks at images of these protests, that they're definitely more than six feet apart. we're looking at images of them tonight. they don't look like they're six feet apart. they look a lot closer than that. but i guess it's in the eye of the beholder. >> indeed. our thanks tonight to phil rucker, to susan page, dr. vin gupta. greatly appreciate the three of you starting us off and starting off a new week with us. >>> coming up, why are some states getting rid of some of the very restrictions that medical experts say are critical and have been critical thus far in this fight against the pan

i think, i live in charlottesville and monticello is right there and they talked about it in those termshat most people jefferson saw, most of the time, the people who he enslaved. but for me at least radically changes how you think about these men. and how they must've thought about themselves because it wasn't a salon every day with all the founder buddies. >> thinking big thoughts like ben franklin. [laughter] >> it was from sun up to sundown most days seeing the people you enslaved thinking about fast track at some point during the day when you had to discipline. >> maximizing. >> right. i don't know about the questionnaire it's more of an observation. >> i think there is something really worthwhile and just thinking about it and talking about that that washington was really, people talk about he was so impressive the way he thought about these new schemes and inventions to maximize profit and labor to make sure that he was applying that. i think it's really important because we do think of them as sort of like doing important work all the time. they were messy, they were drama queen

in fact, some of the white nationalists chanted jews will not replace us in charlottesville and would have probably felt right at home in 1988. now go stud those do they are bd by some extremists that america is a white country and people of color are portrayed as outsiders and threats to the traditional american way of life and a few politicians are using some of the same tactics as 1988. i will give you one example. alex manley in addition to the threats that dc was told many times to go back to africa. just this summer three congressmen of color were told to go back to their home countries. one more example. in 1898, they were told they were raping the women and stealing their jobs and today they were told they were pouring across the border. if we don't learn the demagogues can play the card again and again to insight sort of hate and violence that was so destructive 122 years ago. so i if there's one thing i thee you do take from this book, this is it. thank you very much. you have been patient. i think we are going to open up for questions. i had heard on npr there was difficult

she was retrieved and brought back by her family to charlottesville, virginia, where she was hospitalizedor a brief period of time, judged well enough to be out on her own, but clearly was not better. and her sisters told me that you could see in her eyes that there was something not there. but at any rate, as of sunday, she took her own life because i think she was tired. and she was the kind of person that somebody has very aptly put it, she was like the fireman who runs into the burning building to save another life and doesn't regard anything about herself. so, she has paid the price, and she has been in the trenches. >> it is tragic beyond words. and for anyone out there struggling, the national suicide prevention lifeline here in the united states is always there for you. just call 1-800-273-talk. 49...50! daddy, i found you! good job. now i'm gonna stay here and you go hide. watch your favorites from anywhere in the house with the xfinity stream app. free with your xfinity service. now any room can be a tv room. stream live tv, on demand shows and movies, even your dvr recordings.

most of the people he saw for most of his life were enslaved people and i think -- i lived in charlottesville and monticello is right there. that for me at least radically changes how you think about these men and how they must have thought about themselves because it's not -- it wasn't a salon every day with, you know, all the founder buddies. >> ben franklin, thinking big thoughts. >> right. it was from sun up to sun down most days seeing the people that you enslave, thinking about fast track at some point when you had to discipline. i don't know if i have a question there. just an observation. >> you know, washington was always -- people talk about impressive the way he thought of new schemes and inventions. to maximize profit and labor to apke sure that, you know, he was applying that and i think that's really important because we think of him as sort of doing important work all of the time, they were -- they were messy, they were drama queens and also cruel and thought themselves to be better. you know, it's important that we understand that. on a sunday washington would hang out with hi

i have not seen him that off the rails since the days much charlottesville, when clearly that was a failure of leadership, and to some extent he is back pedaling, because he knows the same kind of scrutiny is on him now. he responded angrily because of these stories coming out over the last 48 hours, calling into questions his actions as this pandemic was building up, and gaining momentum. one thing we should point out about the video, which looked straight out of the beijing or pyongyang, there were white house officials working on that video this afternoon. that campaign-style video, propaganda or whatever you call it, was paid for by your tax dollars, but the white house put it out there to respond to the criticism coupleding in the last few days, and the president was asked during the briefing whether or not he let too much time pass as he was offering these rosy projections, and here's what he had to say. >> reporter: what did you do with the time you -- >> you know what we did? what do you do when you have no case in the whole united states. >> reporter: you had cases. >> excuse me. y

she was retrieved and brought back by her family to charlottesville, virginia, where she was hospitalizedriod of time. judged well enough to be out on her own but clearly was not better. and her sisters told me that you could see in her eyes that there was something not there. >> our thoughts and prayers for that family and her hospital community. thank you for being with me. our special coverage continues now with kate baldwin. >>> hell, everyone. i'm kate baldwin. thank you for joining us this hour. the numbers continue to be staggering. now over 59,000 americans have been killed by the coronavirus with well over a million people in this country infected. that back drop makes this news all the more important. for the first time we're able to say there is optimistic news on a possible coronavirus treatment. dr. anthony fauci announcing from the white house just a short time ago new data on a

festivals and conferences have been canceled with book fairs in san antonio, annapolis, maryland, and charlottesville virginia, opting not to reschedule. the american library association also announced the cancellation of their annual conference of this june in chicago. the los angeles times festival of books originally set to take place in april has decided told their 25th annual festival and october. north america's largest publishing industry convention book expo has also decide to push back their scheduled dates to july. however, five of the largest book publishers have decided not to attend regardless. bookstores around the country are working to provide remote services for their customers through online sales and virtual author event using platforms like outcast and soon. esther was a close their doors and moved online sales they have cut back on their staffing. many of the countries publishers had decided to delay the release of many books. some have laid off staff and several book distribution centers have been temporarily closed. booktv will continue to bring you new programs and publishing

she was retrieved and brought back to charlottesville, virginia where she was hospitalized for a briefust well enough to be out on her own, but clearly was not better. and her sisters told me that you could see in her eyes that there was something not there. but any rate, as of sunday, she took her own life because i think she was tired and she was the kind of person that somebody very aptly put it, she was like the fireman who runs into the burning building to save another life and doesn't regard anything about herself. she's been in the trenches. >> doctor, i can't imagine what it's like for you to have to talk through this about your own child. but at least you have the legacy of her commitment, following in your footsteps and creating her own path. and just so people understand, before this experience was the doctor struggling with anything that was known to you -- >> no, not at all. as a matter of fact, we talked about it quite a bit before and during and we have reviewed the other members of the family and concluded that if we ever were trying to prognosticate about who would be

but did not get mentioned this might that -- my dad's family is from charlottesville. i went to law school and did my history doctorate at the diversity of genera -- university of virginia. i am back home, in a sense. i have been a proud oklahoman for 22 years. my kids identify as oklahomans. they don't remember that they lived in virginia. my oldest child is a law student at uva. she is connecting with her roots and we will see what happens. i think she feels like she is back home too. i am truly honored to be here. i thanks go out. i would be remiss if i failed to say to preservation virginia, which as been an absolutely fantastic organization to work with and those of you with spare change should contribute mightily to them. they're doing important work. also to the museum, which i think i last visited in the 1960's. it has changed. changed in a lot of ways. i am excited to have a chance to look around a little bit later. to follow up on what kevin said, i will pick the story up in the first decade of the 19th century. i have some slides, if i can get into them. wha

you will march from boston, massachusetts to charlottesville, virginia. that is an unpleasant walk.ou can imagine, especially if you have already marched from canada. along this way, prisoners will suffer every town they go through. they are pelted with stones, harassed, some murdered, etc. they are furious because of the way that burgoyne had fought that campaign. he had employed native american allies, particularly the mohawk nation. the native american auxiliaries and not played by those gentlemanly rules. in fact, they had murdered a jane mcrae. so people are furious and demanding revenge. turns out people of virginia are , none too fond of these prisoners. they will wear out their welcome thee, and eventually governor of virginia will stop paying. you are congress's problem, we have no money for you anymore. no money means no food. they are kept in these pens in these camps where there is no food. if you are starving you are more likely to contract a disease. imagine 6000 people in an pen with a hut to shelter you. one british surgeon at a camp in pennsylvania said the prisoner

. >> white tanya was to me written at a specific time, during charlottesville. i went to see the movie, made me think about writing and journalism and control, who gets to rehabilitate and while watching that movie i understood the story because it was such a bizarre -- we remember 1994, tonya harding, it was ridiculous and bizarre but also was a serious issue because you are watching this film and thinking there's something about her rehabilitation. why do we care about tonya harding right now? there is a certain amount of whiteness where you could see people relate to her and humanize her. it may be think of writing and controlling to get humanized and who doesn't and i thought of it from the standpoint, we talk about this character always been present, made me think of colin kaepernick, why has colin kaepernick never been rehabilitated in that way, never got humanized. i thought about the picture of luke heimlich, the pitcher for oregon state who was a sex offense are and how sports illustrated wrote an entire cover story about rehabilitating him and ask a qu

>> host: absolutely well part of it i did when we lived in charlottesville for your own eyes during research at the burgeoning university but essentially, all of it was written here in that room. >> host: what time of deity right? >> guest: i write all day every day part i'm not writing all day i'm reading or correcting what i wrote the day before. i'm going over notes. there is no phone, there's our telephone there. there's no music there's a nice view but i have my back to the view so i won't be tempted by it. it's far enough from the house there you can see general washington and some of his soldiers marching along. i hope they show the end of it. there's a guy at the end identify with. he's the guy a little slow catching up. hope the areas were good to see him. i look at him he is my example. there is, that's the one. [laughter] he's always a little behind. i work out there because when the children were young i did not want them to have to be walking around look at that line -- a call to me to it really look at what is in front of me, what's in front of me as i work prayed that's the ea

because he started this campaign talking about charlottesville and the soul of america and all of thatit's all shifted into a discussion about competence and crisis management. >> yeah. three words, competent, functional governance. this is something that vice president biden holds very dear to his heart. you'll recall -- and especially around when we're talking about intervening in a sharp economic downturn, you'll recall that the vice president was the implementer in chief of the recovery act, which was the stimulus last time around, and that was when i was working with him most closely, and he deeply values the kind of functional governance that we just haven't seen anything like nearly enough of over the last few years. i will say that the current administration working with the congress and pelosi and schumer loomed large in this part of it, did put together a sizable package, and they're getting money out the door. but when you think about the testing and the problems that are making this such a difficult slump to get out of, that's very much a competence issue with the current a

remember, they ran for the hills after charlottesville when they were sitting on those ceo and managementdvisory boards to t the. they did not want to be taking angry calls from their employees, customers and reporters. they're facing a disastrous situation no matter what industry they're in unless they're cvs, walmart, amazon or a pharmaceutical company. they've got loads of risk. and they know the president is talking a very big game about wanting to reopen the country, and they want to also. but i tell you, mary barra said it to me an hour ago. i said the president wants to reopen the country. if he does, you're going to go full bore if you get the green light? she said no, she is going to do what they did when they shut down, lean on the health experts. that's all the business people have done. >> kristen welker, i got to think, it's interesting, it was only three weeks ago that the president did an event that had the ceos of walmart, target. it was an impressive group of executives. he announced this high level website that was going to make it so easy to find testing sites and go to

in fact some of the white nationalist sake jews will not replace them in charlottesville which probably felt right at home in well and make ten and white voters today are being told by some extremist that america is white country. and people of color portrayed as outsiders and threats to the traditional american want lofgren and few politicians are using some of the same tactics as the white supremacist in 1988 only one example. alex in addition to the many death threats he received, was told to go back to africa. just the summer, three congressmen were told to quote, go back to their home countries. for example. 1998, whites were told the blacks were raping the women instilling the jobs. and today, white voters are told that mexican races are root coming across the border to sealer jobs. so if we don't learn, they can incite the sort of hate and violence that was some distractive hundred and 22 years ago. so if there's one thing that i hope they do take from this book, this is it. so thank you very much printed you have been very patient. [applause]. i think we will open it to question

i have not seen him that off the rails since the days of charlottesville. when, clearly, that was a failure of presidential leadership on his part. and, to some extent, he is -- he is back pedaling because he knows the same kind of scrutiny is on him now. he responded pretty angrily during that briefing because of these stories that have been coming out over the last 48 hours. calling into question his actions as this pandemic was building up and gaining momentum. and one thing we should point out about that video, which looked straight out at beijing or pyongyang. i mean, there were white house officials that were working on that video this afternoon. so that video, campaign-style video, propaganda video, whatever you want to call it was paid for with your tax dollars. but the white house put that video out there to respond to the criticism that's been coming in over the last couple days. and the president was asked about this during the briefing. whether or not he let too much time pass as he was offering all of these rosy projections about the coronaviru

in fact, some of the white nationalists chanted jews will not replace us in charlottesville would probably have felt right home in wilmington in trento. white voters to their being told by some extremists that america is a white country. and people of color are portrayed as outsiders and threats to the additional american way of life. a few politicians are just some of the same tactics as a white premises in 1898 1898 ld-1 exhr alex man and addition to the many death threats he received was told many times to quote go back to africa. just the sum of three congressman of color were told to quote a back to their home country. one more example. in 1898 whites were told blacks were raping their women and student their jobs. today white voters are told mexican rapists are pouring across the border to steal their jobs. so if we don't learn from tragedies like bloomington, demagogues can play the race card again and again to incite the sort of hate and violence that was so destructive when hundred 22 years ago. so if there's one thing i hope that you do take from this book, this is it. so thank y

him back in 2017 when he took office basically fell apart because of his comment hes about the charlottesville racial episode. so when you invite people like this to be part of your advisory group, again, you give them power that then they might use it in a way that might not work for you. >> i wanted to bring zeke in, dr. zeke emanuel. first of all, your reaction to taking back the money and the house democrats appropriations committee, as you pointed out, he doesn't have the right to impound this money without going to congress. we're talking about state department appropriated funds that were supposed to be sent hundreds of millions of dollars in previous years to the world health organization. without judging the world health organization at this moment, pluses and minuses, what they did, what they didn't do, the criticism around the world is this is the worst time for the u.s. to be sending this signal globally that we are not cooperating and supporting a u.n. organization that does a lot of other things, polio and other diseases as well. >> so let me make thee points. first, let me be tr