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up next, fbi director, christopher wray, on our minds tonight. he picks up for james comey where he left off. unfortunately. lying about spying on the trump campaign. we will take that up and more right after this quick break. judicial watch tom >> i think that spying did occur. yes, i think spying data corporate question is whether it will be predicated. adequately predicated. i'm not suggesting it was not adequately predicated but i need to explore that. lou: attorney general william barr asserting there that spying did occur against the 2016 trump presidential campaign. it apparently isn't the thinking of the fbi director, christopher wray. listen to what he constructed saying this today before the senate appropriations committee. >> and fbi agents conduct investigations against the lynch mobsters suspected terrorists, other criminals, do you believe that they are engaging in spying when they're following fbi investigative policies and procedures? >> well, that is not the term i would use. a lot of people have different colloquial phrases.i be

lou: i'm talking actually about christopher wray. >> well christopher wray's liability is political.s an empty suit. he came from king and spawlder in atlanta, georgia which is where sally yates went after he left. that will tell you something about king and spaulding. christopher wray has nothing going for him and he hates conflict. listen. he loves comey and mueller. he's one of their closest friends. lou: it's so insay extraordinar. and william barr standing against all of the hateful nonsense in that judiciary committee. >> yep. lou: it is painful to watch and for him to put up with it -- by the way, i know now, after watching him in just a couple of hearings, it's pretty clear why they wanted the house judiciary committee wanted their attorneys on staff to question him rather than risk their own public image. they wouldn't have done well. >> well, bill barr is a great attorney, a great man and the president made a fabulous choice. >> absolutely. victoria thanks so much. joe, thank you. we appreciate, as always, your time. good to have you here. >> thank you. lou: thank you. >>>

up next, fbi director, christopher wray, on our minds tonight.cks up for james comey where he left off. unfortunately. lying about spying on the trump campaign. we will take that up and more right after this quick break. judicial watch tom fitton joins us next. ♪ like a drifter i was-- ♪ born to walk alone! keep goin' man! you got it! if you ride, you get it. ♪ here i go again geico motorcycle. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more. you might or joints.hing for your heart... but do you take something for your brain. with an ingredient originally discovered in jellyfish, prevagen has been shown in clinical trials to improve short-term memory. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. but some give their clients cookie cutter portfolios. fisher investments tailors portfolios to your goals and needs. some only call when they have something to sell. fisher calls regularly so you stay informed. and while some advisors are happy to earn commissions whether you do well or not. fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. mayb

the new fbi director, christopher wray, works for them. doesn't sound strange to you that christopher wray does not have all the answers about what went on inside the fbi? let me say this to america tonight. the new fbi director, christopher wray, is an empty suit, and embarrassment to the united states. >> i knew the first time he testified before congress he was an empty suit. and he says we don't know what you subpoenaed peerless both agree with it and get past this guy, christopher wray. i don't think he belongs there but that is not my -- >> that is where the attorney general doesn't have answers. because christopher wray has refused to investigate because he was to protect the institution he is the -- he loves james comey. >> listen. why is he talking? you and i both know there are some inconsistent statements out there by the time everybody points a finger at it. he has fitzgerald, correct? after fitzgerald he put a bunch of people in. some others i'm not sure. >> unethical for prosecutor, here is the thing. james comey is talking b

kaitlan that him also expressing, you know, he said i thought it was a ridiculous answer about christopher wray that the fbi doesn't spy on people. that's the only answer chris wray possibly could have given and walked back into that building with his head held high with the other fbi agents but those are the two that stuck out to me. >> yeah, and i -- i'm really interested to hear if the pentagon -- we have a chance to ask the pentagon questions about what the president said. if when it comes to iran, if he would want to go that route, he's saying it would be way more than 120,000 troops, way more than the troop levels we would have to assume than the united states sent over during the invasion of iraq. that would be a serious, serious marker he is laying out. >> to be clear, technically donald trump isn't really disputing the "new york times" report on the troop levels. in that report, if you read it, it says it's not clear whether trump has been briefed on these proposals, and they made clear it was a proposal. >> right. >> so, again, he does this fake news thing, but reporters are careful,

christopher wray is one of the most powerful law enforcement officials in the cosmos.e had the ability yesterday to reestablish faith in the fbi and come out and say, listen, a very simple answer, lou. all he had to say there's an investigation going on right now into spying, yes, spying. we're looking into it, and ms. shaheen, who he was talking to, the democrat senator, when i get to the bottom of it, i will be back here and happily talk about it. what does he do? i wouldn't use the word spying. they were perfectly content with using the word spying when they were talking about the patriot act with george bush. it's ridiculous. lou: so what do you think of the cadillac are memorandum at the state department and they sealed it, christopher wray took responsibility for sealing it two weeks ago, and instead of sharing the documented knowledge, firsthand, of the fact that the steele dossier had a political motivation -- oh and, yes, a deadline of november 6th i believe it was, 2016. all of this has been sealed for 25 years by that same fbi that was engaged in spying. >>

christopher wray had an exchange with jeanne shaheen about the use of the word "spying" and whether the fbi used proper procedures in 2016. you can see the full thing at c-span.org. here is a bit of that exchange. [video clip] >> i would like to follow up on senator moran's question about the hearing with attorney general barr because i was very concerned with his use of the word "spying." it conjures a criminal connotation. i would appreciate a yes or no answer if possible, win fbi investigations against alleged mobsters, suspected terrorists, other criminals, do you believe they are engaging in spying when they are following investigative policies and procedures? >> that is not the term i would use. >> thank you. i would say that is a note to that question. -- no to that question.

. >> reporter: over the weekend, the president lashed out at own fbi director, christopher wray, after he declined to echo attorney general william barr's concerns that the trump campaign was the victim of improper surveillance. mr. trump quoted a conservative activist on twitter, saying the fbi has no leadership. the director is protecting the same gang that tried to overthrow the president through an illegal coup. mr. trump also laid into former white house counsel don mcgahn after he refused to state publicly that the president did not commit obstruction of justice, tweeting, actually, lawyer don mcgahn had a much better chance of being fired than mueller. never a big fan. lindsey graham is advising donald trump jr. to ignore a subpoena to testify from the senate intelligence committee. >> if i were donald trump jr.'s lawyer, i would tell them, you don't need to go back into this environment anymore. i would call ate day. >> reporter: that's despite's graham's comments during bill clinton's impeachment saga. >> the day richard nixon failed to answer that subpoena is the day he was s

i can't imagine what it's like to be christopher wray, who on the law enforcement side is the tip of the spear in trying to protect this country. here he is talking about the threat russia poses. >> foreign influence, we usually use to describe the fairly aggressive campaign we saw in 2016 and it's described in the special counsel's report and that has continued pretty much unabated is the use of social media, fake news, propaganda, false personas, et cetera, to spin us up, pit us against each other, sow divisiveness and discord, undermine americans' faith in democracy. that's pretty much a 365 days a year threat. and that has absolutely continued. >> it's like the fireman is the dad and the arsonist is the son and they live in the same studio apartment. how is chris wray talking about the russian effort going unabated. 72 hours ago rudy giuliani and jared kushner said it was no big deal and donald trump just talked to putin and didn't say anything about staying out of our democracy. >> one of the things that director wray's comments point out which is there's a talking head quality

trish: tonight christopher wray, head of the fbi confirming he is working with attorney general general barr to see why they had the probe in the first place. with a weapon i said to take down the trump campaign? we have new intel that suggest that peer plus major developments in venezuela for the united states removing sanctions against nicolas maduro's former intelligence chief.this is a big deal because he is publicly breaking rank from the socialist regime. what does this tell you? sanctions work. and i will tell you what is a matter of time until others defected from the rogue regime. it is happening. plus children from a muslim american society in philadelphia saying they would sacrifice themselves and kill themselves for the army of a lah. we have more information tonight, all of this. and nancy here at ilhan omar is saying about this disturbing video. -- gordon chang and a lot more. "trish regan primetime" begins right now. the head of the fbi, christopher wray, for the first time saying that he is working with the attorney general to determine what the heck the fbi was doing in

. >> do you have confidence in christopher wray after he said -- >> i didn't understand his answer. i thought the attorney general answered it perfectly. so i certainly didn't understand that answer. i thought it was a ridiculous answer. >> wray should consider himself warned that serving as fbi director in the trump presidency can be a lonely proposition. if you stay strong, superiors at doj will have your back, right? well, not this one. former deputy attorney general rod rosenstein had this to say about wray's predecessor jim comey. quote, former director is a partisan pundit selling books and earning speaking fees while speculating about the strength of my character and the fate of my immortal soul. that is disappointing. speb speculating about souls is not a job for prosecutors. wearing a wire and getting votes is? with us at the table former director of cia john brennan, cnn security unless. aide to george w. bush white house and host of saturday night politics on nbc donny deutsch. plus former attorney assistant general litman. i have to start with you. so striking to see trum

and then this weekend, christopher wray becomes donald trump's newest attack target. donald trump may be on the verge of becoming only the fourth president in history to be the subject of impeachment proceedings according to house intelligence committee chairman adam schiff. he noted the trump administration is refusing to comply with pre single investigative inquiry that the house of representatives has made across multiple committees can of jurisdiction. >> it's certainly true these additional acts of obstruction, the president having obstructed the justice department investigation now obstructing congress does add weight to impeachment. >> leading off our discussion tonight, mimi rocah, former federal prosecutor and jennifer rueben at "the washington post." both are contributors. and mimi, let me go back to what rachel and i were discussing, and that is the report tonight that attorney general barr has appointed to u.s. attorney in connecticut john durham to do what is yet another investigation of the beginnings of the investigation of russian interference in the e

christopher wray, time to do your job. the former highest ranking employee, but he had no signs, wray will not bring them to justice. working to prevent this abuse of power hyperpartisan conduct from ever, ever happening again. in the coming months, just as will be served. we have promised you that. with or without, well, director wray help. part two of my monologue in just a moment. first we are joined by trey gowdy. congressman, let's get your reaction, now that we know that the attorney general has, in fact, i signed this u.s. attorney in connecticut to review the origins of the russian inquiry. that and what other questions would you like answered? >> this is the fourth person that has been charged with investigating the origins of the russia probe. i am more interested in how quickly they do it at how effectively they do it more than the number. if this is the right person to do it, more power to them. there is an easy road map to follow, sean. we know the origins of the russia probe, what russia did to us. i want to

. >> reporter: over the weekend the president lashed out at his own fbi director christopher wray after he failed to echo his attorney general's concerns. he quoted a conservative activist saying the fbi has no leadership. the director is protecting the same gang that tried to over throw the president through an illegal coup. he laid into former white house counsel don mcgahn after he refused to say he did not commit obstruction of justice. don mcgahn had a better chance of being fired than mueller. never a big fan. lindsey graham is advising donald trump jr. to ignore a subpoena to testify from the senate intelligence committee. >> if i were donald trump jr.'s lawyer i would tell him you don't need to go back into this environment anymore. i o call it a day. >> reporter: >> the day richard nixon failed to answer that subpoena is the day that he was subject to impeachment because he took a power from congress over the impeachment process away from congress and he became the judge and jury. >> reporter: the president raised eyebrows when he praised hungary's far right leader as he welcom

and we're also watching fbi director christopher wray talking spying now in his first testimony since the redacted report's release. and what about robert mueller himself? when might we see him in the witness chair? here is what the white house is saying. >> the president said robert mueller shouldn't testify, but will he try to prevent him from of it something. >> he hasn't said that. i think his point -- >> he tweeted it. >> no, he said he should not, but he has not said that he will not. the point is very simple. the mueller investigation cost about $30 million in taxpayer funding and the definitive conclusive authoritative and final report on this. >> our team is here with the stories and the many others we're bringing you this hour. a busy one here. kelly on do kelly o'donnell, i'll start with you. apologies in advance in case i have to interrupt you if and when mitch mcconnell begins speaking. what is the expectation from what we might hear from him and how will democrats handle it if in fact don mcgahn does not hand over these documents that he has said -- he's under a deadline

is that apparently the thinking of the christopher wray, listen to what he constructed saying this todaye the the senate appropriations committee. >> when fbi agent as conduct investigations against alleged mobsters, suspected terrorists, other criminals, do you believe that they're engaging in spying when they're followinging in thive policies and procedures? >> well that's not the term i would use. they're lot of people with different phrases i believe that the fbi is engaged in investigative afnght and part includes violation activity of different shape and sizes and to me the key question is -- making sure that it is done by the book. just jr. reference spying among other definitions to watch secretely usually for hostile purposes to watch secretly as a spy. even former director of national intelligence director james clapper admits that the fbi's actions against the presidential campaign do, in fact, meet the definition spying and it took him a while to come to that conclusion perhaps ray will be next in line to do so. joining us tonight judicial watch president tom at this, tos is

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. >> risk between barr and christopher wray, whether they president spied on the 2016 campaign. the started last month, he just did that. last week, he stood by those comments. >> i think buying is a good english word that doesn't have synonyms because it is the broadest word incorporating all forms of covert intelligence collection. >> today on capitol hill, fbi director is told to avoid that word. >> that's not the term i would use. >> thank you. i would say that's a no to that question. >> well, there are a lot of people using different phrases. i believe the fbi engaged in investigative activity and part of that activity includes surveillance activity of different shapes and sizes. >> sometimes surveillance activity can be much worse than trying. he was asked rather whether he believes the fbi and agent had engaged in illegal surveillance. they did. watch. >> do you have any evidence that any illegal surveillance into the campaign during the campaign by the fbi occurred? >> i don't think i personally have any evidence of that. >> now it's just business as usual then. the pre

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on c-span3, fbi director christopher wray and interior secretary david bernhardt appear at separate hearings to testify on the president's 2020 budget requests. >> next, president trump awards the presidential medal of freedom to professional golfer tiger woods, who recently won the masters for a fifth time, giving him 15 major championships, three behind jack nicholas, another medal of freedom winter. mr. woods' masters victory mark the first time he has won a tournament since the 2008 u.s. open area -- u.s. open. >> ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states, accompanied by tiger woods. [applause] pres. trump: thank you very much. melania and i are delighted to welcome you to the white house on this beautiful spring evening. this is the rose garden, for those of you that do not know. we use it seldom, but this is one of the times we are using it, tiger. today it is my privilege to award our nation's highest civilian honor to one of the greatest athletes in the history of sports, tiger woods. theratulations on receiving presidential medal of freedom. [applause] pres. trump: we

directorspan2, fbi christopher wray and interior secretary david bernhardt appear as separate hearings to testify on the president's 2020 budget request. >> sunday on q&a, journalist and author david meredith and his new book, a good american family, captures the fear and paranoia of the red scare during the

but during testimony before congress last week, fbi corrector christopher wray said he didn't agree withon. speaking to reporters yesterday, the president was asked whether he still had confidence in wray, given the director's answer. >> do you have confidence in christopher wray after he -- >> well, i didn't understand his answer, because i thought the attorney general answered it perfectly. so, i certainly didn't understand that answer. i thought it was a ridiculous answer. >> so, at a news conference yesterday, florida governor ron desantis said russian hackers successfully gained access to voter databases. now experienced an intrusion and hackers did not manipulate or change any data. according to the tampa bay times, desantis told reporters he'd been breached on the breach but was not allowed to name the counties. he said, i'm not allowed to name the counties. i signed a nondisclosure agreement. but they asked me to sign it so i respect their wishes. it is highly unusual that the federal government would ask a governor to sign a nda especially in a case in that own state. >>> and ja

. >>> fbi director christopher wray disagreeing with the attorney general after william barr broughtnto the president's baseless conspiracy theory that his campaign had been spied on. we're going to discuss that next. you know what i would really love for mother's day this year? for you to get engaged to rachel. but if you're not "ready", you know who else likes jewelry? momma. get engaged this mother's day or get mom something special. jared. monitor their blood glucose every day. which means they have to stop. and stick their fingers. repeatedly. today, life-changing technology from abbott makes it possible to track glucose levels. without drawing a drop of blood, again and again. the most personal technology, is technology with the power to change your life. life. to the fullest. >>> the fbi director christopher wray is distancing himself from attorney general william barr's use of the word "spying" when describing the fbi's surveillance into the trump campaign. listen to this. >> well, that's not the term i would use. lots of people have different colloquial phrases. i believe th

and this weekend trump for the very first time attacked his own fbi director christopher wray.at adds up to in my mind an ominous picture of trump trying to destroy the checks and balances on his power. >> here's one more, the senate intel committee led by republicans subpoenaing don jr. and he's balking at answering more questions about the june 2016 meeting, the trump tower meeting with the russians and the trump tower moscow project. what's he afraid of, do you think? >> well, he's afraid he's going to tell a different version than he's told before, afraid of getting caught in a lie. i don't think he has been truthful with us and he certainly hasn't told us the full story. there's questions that remain. donald, when you talk about why president trump is so frustrated, he wants to take a victory lap and he feels like he's never, from the moment he was elected, been able to take his victory lap and that desire is perfectly manifested in that notion last week that he floated about making the fourth of july the fourth of donald trump. that's the way he wants to inhabit and be ce

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and this weekend trump for the very first time attacked his own fbi director, christopher wray.s up a fairly honest picture of the way trump is trying to destroy the checks and balances on his power. >> the senate intel committee led by republicans subpoenaing don junior, and don junior is balking at answering questions of the trump t trump tower moskow project. what's he afraid of do you think? >> he's afraid he's going to tell a different version than he told before. i don't think he has been truthful with us, and he certainly hasn't told the full story and all these questions remain. don, when you talk about why president trump is so frustrated, he wants to take a victory lap, and he feels like he's never from the moment he was elected been able to take his victory lap. and that desire is perfectly manifested in that notion last week he floated about making the fourth of july the fourth of donald trump. that's the way he wants to be celebrated in office and instead it has been a constant siege from day one. but that's not because there's some great witch hunt against him. tha

and on c-span2, fbi director christopher wray and interior secretary david bernhardt appear as separate hearings to testify on the president's 2020 budget request. >> sunday on "q&a," journalist and author david meredith and his new book, "a good american family," captures the fear and paranoia of the red scare during the 1950's through the story of his family's own ordeal. sunday night at 8:00 eastern, on c-span's "q&a." >> the president and congressional democrats have agreed on $2 trillion in infrastructure programs for ands, bridges, schools, high-speed internet. here's more on some of the ideas. thosetalk about some of funding issues, eugene from the

fbi director christopher wrai has a different view. wray is a public servant. you can tell him apart from the hacks. the republican cover up. >> the special counsel's finding is clear. case closed. >> wow. republicans in congress are doing everything they can to protect the president from any oversight scrutiny. forget rules and integrity. protect the president while they are sitting in dangerous precedent and betraying their own institution. why is joe biden winning so much of the polling. what's going on here? they more than doubled the support of bernie and one big thing they see as the safest bet to beat the incumbent. they like him, i think, but they also like the idea of beating trump more. much ahead. stay with us. g trump more much ahead stay with us with fidelity wealth management you get straightforward advice, tailored recommendations, tax-efficient investing strategies, and a dedicated advisor to help you grow and protect your wealth. fidelity wealth management. but prevagen helps your brain with an ingredientealth. originally discovered... in jelly

. >>> we have news just in just moments ago, the fbi director, christopher wray, pushing back on the use of the term spying when it comes to government surveillance during the russia investigation. that, of course, is the word the attorney general bill barr used last month during a congressional hearing with the president picked up on. >> well, that's not the term i would use. >> thank you. so i would -- i would say that's a no to that question. >> well, i mean, look. lots of people have different colloquial phrases. i believe the fbi is engaged in investigative activity and part of investigative activity includes surveillance activity of deshapes and sizes. to me, the key question is making sure that it's done by the book. >> very different picture, jessica schneider, is it not from bill barr, who raised spying, says he's investigating now the investigators, the opening of this investigation, but wouldn't it be the fbi that would be investigating? if the fbi director says it wasn't illegal, where does that leave us? >> well, the fbi director, christopher wray, there dancing very car

today the fbi director, christopher wray, was asking about using the term "spying" during his senate hearing. here's what he had to say. >> when fbi agents conduct investigations against alleged mobsters, suspected terrorists, other criminals, i do believe they are engaging in spying? >> i believe the fbi has engaged in investigative activity, and part of investigative activity includes surveillance activity of different shapes and sizes. to me, the key question is making sure that it is done by the book. >> do you have any evidence that any illegal surveillance into the campaigns or individuals associated with the campaign by the fbi occurred? >> i don't think i personally have any evidence of that sort. >> melissa: director wray is looking to the origins of the trump campaign investigation. that was the other headline. kristin, let me start with that idea of -- it's so much about word choice. "bye" as literature and pay later he went back and said, "i was really talking about illegal surveillance." we want to know if it's illegal or legal. how much difference as it may mexico in th

he said he is working with fbi director christopher wray to look back into things we know the u.s. attorney, the inspector general of the doj, barr said he has talked with him at the doj. and senator josh hawley, who sits on the committee, tweeted this, "you want to know why the fbi spied on donald trump? launch multiyear investigations about donald trump voters, unelected elites have nothing but contempt for them. total, complete contempt." what do democrats do with that? >> a couple of things. first, hats off to the president and his supporters. most republicans believe the russians didn't even try to meddle, let alone succeed, as every intelligence -- the polls indicate that. they've been asking republicans, do you believe that the russians intervened? on the answer among their more do majority of republicans is now, so good, congratulations. >> shannon: i think the majority of them don't believe that the president -- >> i don't want to quibble now, but as regards the collusion, it is interesting that graham, who might have a high regard for, barr, a little less respect after to

close oversight that it is his comments labelling them sparring that is the aberration and not christopher wray's of them as normal investigative procedures and surveillance programs. >> michael, how do you see this? because attorney general barr and director wray said the real issue is whether the law was followed. wray said he's not personally seen any evidence of any illegal surveillance occurred. >> right. look, first of all, barr did say right after he did say that he thought spying was occurred and the question was there an adequate predicate for the "spying." now fib director wray is absolutely right that it is not usually the term -- "spying" is not the way law enforcement officials would describe the standard surveillance they do in investigations. including undercover surveillance which involves using informants to approach targets and try to get them to say something incriminating or find out what they know. but beyond all this, the semantic disputes and "spying" or "surveillance", there is a serious issue underlying and that is the inspector general report that is underway and maybe o

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. >> the president tweeted that the fbi has no leadership days after christopher wray disagreed the bureau on the trump campaign. they are working to block 20 probes and house democrats are considering imposing fines on those who refuse to testify. >>> the last of the students wounded in the denver school shooting is home from the hospital. court hearings are scheduled for wednesday. "the denver post" reports the denver area has had more school shootings per capita in the past 20 years than any other of the top 25 metro areas. kendrick castillo was killed while helping to stop the attack. the school's robotics team is among the groups honoring him. >>> a suspect in a triple murder was arrested just as he was about to take off. christian martin is a pilot for american airlines subsidiary scheduled for a flight from louisville and was arrested at the airport. a mug shot shows him wearing his pilots uniform. he's accused of killing three people in kentucky. american airlines says a criminal background check on martin found nothing that would disqualify him as a commercial pilot. >>> the despe