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the church unfortunately isn't it. this is the criticism the let's the going to be known as all exactly what exactly it had been held thank you and the pope benedict who have both apologized today if i could just finish my point both popes have apologized wholeheartedly and changed the landscape in terms of how we deal with this never to be shoved on never to be shoved under the carpet to be dealt with and the key area in which it was dealt with to it was to for bid people with deep seated homosexuality from entering seminary because we know that was over eighty percent of the cases was actually ephebophilia not actually pedophilia where it was homo sexual abuse and being put into would all be a priest with all males around obviously that's an invitation to that kind of thing and so that had to be dealt with and once reverend die and you want to say something go right ahead go ahead is going to want to first i think. i first first of all what i'd like to say is that there's a difference between the church and the hiera
the church unfortunately isn't it. this is the criticism the let's the going to be known as all exactly what exactly it had been held thank you and the pope benedict who have both apologized today if i could just finish my point both popes have apologized wholeheartedly and changed the landscape in terms of how we deal with this never to be shoved on never to be shoved under the carpet to be dealt with and the key area in which it was dealt with to it was to for bid people with deep seated...
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half the church is there. the church have had a lot of difficulties over the years dictatorial regimes and difficulties with many sects which have come in. a good people, of course, but making often as ha their desire not to bring this things into their community but take the catholics out of their community and i think that the presence of a pope from latin america could really light the fire throughout that great part of the world so as a catholic who's worked in a regular home who've been involved in latin america for a long time i rejoice. that's the first reason. second is he's a brilliant man. he's a ratzinger type person, a great theologian, a great thoughtful man. and secondly -- thirdly i he's a very prayerful man. and that's the power of prayer is so important in our society and we have forgotten that and i think he will remind us of that. so for all those reasons. >> rose: he's a man that the conservatives who voted had to accept. >> yes. yes. because he -- as far as theology goes, he would be very
half the church is there. the church have had a lot of difficulties over the years dictatorial regimes and difficulties with many sects which have come in. a good people, of course, but making often as ha their desire not to bring this things into their community but take the catholics out of their community and i think that the presence of a pope from latin america could really light the fire throughout that great part of the world so as a catholic who's worked in a regular home who've been...
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that the church when you're talking about the church in this is a language issue that i have a lot of affiliate affinity for because we need to call the hierarchy. the hierarchy when we're talking about the laws and rules that they have made over us that come over us and that. speak for us they don't speak for me so therefore i say these are hierarchical rules that have been posed and as i don't agree at all that homosexuality is one of the main causes for pedophilia that has been proven scientifically wrong and i do agree with you don that totally that's a very important point needs to be your sister mary go ahead jump in here go yes very much sisters aren't if it's going to lead did not i agree with diana totally we can't do it we don't can't blame home but people who are gay or homosexual or the paedophilia is much wider than that but the problem of the church is it's very much more serious here and it's widespread. i mean we can't look a secular society as well because that's a whole different thing so it's a very serious thing and the cover ups i hardly know any bishop that hasn'
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and the church is not the college of cardinals. the church is not the hierarchy. the church is dealing with the poor. the vulnerable, the hurt, the daniel damaged, the victims of sexual abuse. women, gays, black, latino, that's the catholic church. and both men, i think have it within them to redirect the focus of the church back to what the church is all about, in this country and around the world. i have never been anywhere in the world that i have not encountered a jesuit or a mary knoll, doing the work of the church. the scandal and secrecy of the church in the last 15 years in particular has been a sin in and of itself. one of the roles of the next pope, whether it's an american, o'malley or dolan, which it probably won't be. however the next pope is they have to open the windows of the vatican and let some fresh air and sunlight into, into the church. i mean what people are watching now, what we're watching now, most noncatholics, you can probably equate it with a combination of "downton abbey" and nfl draft day on espn. they're going to close the doors and
and the church is not the college of cardinals. the church is not the hierarchy. the church is dealing with the poor. the vulnerable, the hurt, the daniel damaged, the victims of sexual abuse. women, gays, black, latino, that's the catholic church. and both men, i think have it within them to redirect the focus of the church back to what the church is all about, in this country and around the world. i have never been anywhere in the world that i have not encountered a jesuit or a mary knoll,...
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this is the living church. and i would like more from you regarding the fact this is the first papal resignation in 600 years. and smooth transition, chris jansing pointing out, there is not a period of mourning so cardinals were able to focus, if you will, on the next selection and moving forward. but this hasn't happened in 600 years that we have seen the transition in this way. >> you're right. 600 years is a long time to go without a pope stepping down. the interesting thing, we didn't have a period of mourning for a pope who had passed away. but i believe there was definitely a period of shock. precisely because it's been so long since something like this happened and people were really convinced that pope benedict was doing a good job in many ways. and there was a shock and i believe the cardinal shared that shock. there was a week or ten days when you were digesting that and reasons he might have had for stepping down. he said he felt like he no long every had the spiritual or physical strength to respon
this is the living church. and i would like more from you regarding the fact this is the first papal resignation in 600 years. and smooth transition, chris jansing pointing out, there is not a period of mourning so cardinals were able to focus, if you will, on the next selection and moving forward. but this hasn't happened in 600 years that we have seen the transition in this way. >> you're right. 600 years is a long time to go without a pope stepping down. the interesting thing, we...
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the other churches in love.he path of brotherhood of love and of faith and trust. let's always pray for each other. let's pray for the entire world. so that there can be great brotherhood. i wish you all that this path within the church, that we are starting today, and my cardinal who is next to me will help me, we want for this to be fruitful for the evangelization of this beautiful city. and now, i would love to give you a blessing. before, i want to ask you a favor. before the bishop blesses the people, i want for you to pray that the lord can bless me. i want for the people to ask the lord for blessings for the bishop. so let's remain silent for this prayer from you for me. [ applause ] >> holy father francis, to all of the faithful present here and others who receive this blessing via radio or television and the new 21st century technology, in the forms established by the church. let's pray that the almighty can keep the pope for many years at leadership of the church and for him to give peace and unity to
the other churches in love.he path of brotherhood of love and of faith and trust. let's always pray for each other. let's pray for the entire world. so that there can be great brotherhood. i wish you all that this path within the church, that we are starting today, and my cardinal who is next to me will help me, we want for this to be fruitful for the evangelization of this beautiful city. and now, i would love to give you a blessing. before, i want to ask you a favor. before the bishop blesses...
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i don't feel a sense of longing of not being in a church or the church. just don't miss it, because for a variety of reasons, it feels constricting. >> in general, i'm not worried. the people who consider themselves spiritual, but not going to church, why would i worry? they are great people. they are in their community, making a difference. >> let's go. >> i think there is a space of opportunity to do a ministry together. >> reporter: why not be optimistic, the unafilliated may not want to be within church, but they're not entire hostile to religion. in fact, they mostly agree with believers that religious organizations strengthen communities and play an important role in helping the needy -- some common ground, at least, in a changing world. for "religion & ethics newsweekly," i'm deborah potter in greensboro, north carolina. >>> on our calendar this week, on monday, some eastern orthodox christianobserve clean monday the beginning of great lent, the 40-day period of fasting and prayer leading up to their celebration of easter. also, this week, baha'i's
i don't feel a sense of longing of not being in a church or the church. just don't miss it, because for a variety of reasons, it feels constricting. >> in general, i'm not worried. the people who consider themselves spiritual, but not going to church, why would i worry? they are great people. they are in their community, making a difference. >> let's go. >> i think there is a space of opportunity to do a ministry together. >> reporter: why not be optimistic, the...
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we have been to churches.have seen folks tell us they were praying for a pope of latin american descent. that's what they got. the pope lived in buenos aires most his life. his folks are of italian descent. some 40 million people live in argentina. 70% of that country is, of course, catholic. the numbers, as we -- >> we just lost our connection with miguel almaguer. let me bring liz back in. our historian. liz, you heard miguel cite the numbers there. but it is also interesting, you have the pope from buones aires. the constant conversation that is happening worldwide about the disparity. and that he has focused so heavily on that. put that in perspective. maybe not in comparison, necessarily, to benedict xlvi but what we've seen in recent history. >> i think -- just the continuation from benedict xvi we already see this new pope francis i making a very solid acknowledgment of his affection towards the pope ameritus. e ke i keep looking at this name. it opens up a world of thoughts. this new pope is a -- model
we have been to churches.have seen folks tell us they were praying for a pope of latin american descent. that's what they got. the pope lived in buenos aires most his life. his folks are of italian descent. some 40 million people live in argentina. 70% of that country is, of course, catholic. the numbers, as we -- >> we just lost our connection with miguel almaguer. let me bring liz back in. our historian. liz, you heard miguel cite the numbers there. but it is also interesting, you have...
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> go and rebuild my church. so they took a jesuit to take his name, francis, to help rebuild and heal the church. because there are some divisions and some hurts. but i think most -- most -- what the cardinals wanted to present us with is this great pastoral man, known with the poor. with the disenfranchised. with those who are living in irregular situations. somebody who has a special ministry to people with hiv and aids. to single mothers, to all of those things. and look what we received tonight. it's a wonderful gift. >> you know, much was made before the conclave began about those who were of the vatican bureaucracy. those who were -- might be called reformers. where does this leave the church now? i mean, the election of this man? i mean, he's not -- he's not of the bureaucracy. he hasn't worked in the vatican bureaucracy. is that important, do you think? >> he's not of it, but he certainly knew it. and he probably heard a lot of things last week at the meetings. and the questions, the great issues. you kn
> go and rebuild my church. so they took a jesuit to take his name, francis, to help rebuild and heal the church. because there are some divisions and some hurts. but i think most -- most -- what the cardinals wanted to present us with is this great pastoral man, known with the poor. with the disenfranchised. with those who are living in irregular situations. somebody who has a special ministry to people with hiv and aids. to single mothers, to all of those things. and look what we received...
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and not only are they the future of the church they're the now of the church. and so now having a leader that is known as being the people's pastor, being a universal pastor, someone that can really even bring people back to the pews is something that if you speak to a lot of the leaders of the hispanic church, say they are just delighted and elated by what that can do to bringing more hispanics back to church. you know, 10% of the catholic leadership back in the united states is hispanic. i mean, that's a very small number of leadership. there is yet -- there's still no hispanic cardinal out of the united states. so to have the pope be an hispanic from argentina someone who is about social justice someone who is about the poor, it has brought everyone together regardless of country. i was in the square when the white smoke came out. and not only did you see argentinean flags you saw brazilian flags and cuban flags and chilean flags. and it wasn't about what country or another. it was an understanding that the church had finally said that we are there. so it's
and not only are they the future of the church they're the now of the church. and so now having a leader that is known as being the people's pastor, being a universal pastor, someone that can really even bring people back to the pews is something that if you speak to a lot of the leaders of the hispanic church, say they are just delighted and elated by what that can do to bringing more hispanics back to church. you know, 10% of the catholic leadership back in the united states is hispanic. i...
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that's the job of the church. the church's job is to lead people to heaven. and so that's the meter that he's going to be judged on and all these issues have to be judged on. that we have to look as to what is in the best interests of telling the people the truth as to how they should act in concert with god's will. and that's what i'll look at when he makes the moral case for that to be a change in policy. >> rick santorum, as always, great to have you on the show. >> thank you very much. appreciate it, piers. >>> it's been in the story today, monsignor -- professor of the king university history department. let me start, there are lots of catholics around the world, a survey recently cited a few times in the last week in germany, over 70% of german-catholics -- a lot of catholics in germany, believe it's time to have female priests, believe it's time that divorced catholics can remarry in church. and believe in other progressive moves that maybe pope francis could consider. what is your view about changing times, changing moods amongst -- certainly young ca
that's the job of the church. the church's job is to lead people to heaven. and so that's the meter that he's going to be judged on and all these issues have to be judged on. that we have to look as to what is in the best interests of telling the people the truth as to how they should act in concert with god's will. and that's what i'll look at when he makes the moral case for that to be a change in policy. >> rick santorum, as always, great to have you on the show. >> thank you...
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we're part of the church. and if the bishops aren't doing the right thing, we'll be able to stand up and say that. that's been, i think in a way, a great liberation for what it means to be catholic. and i think that this pope, by actually saying to the other bishops, you know, i'm the bishop of rome, i'm not the head -- i'm not the pope of the whole church, is saying that we are going to have to take much more control of our lives. now, what role they play on these issues is the question. is the church has always had a range of issues, and what have they focused on? unfortunately in the last 20 years i would say they have focused mostly on sex. i hope with this pope, they'll focus more on something that brings us together rather than eventually saying you're bad on sex. >> as catholics, we know a pope is human, and we don't have to agree with him on everything, but we have to know he's coming from a right place. >> beyond this conversation going on among catholics, as you look at this catholic moment in americ
we're part of the church. and if the bishops aren't doing the right thing, we'll be able to stand up and say that. that's been, i think in a way, a great liberation for what it means to be catholic. and i think that this pope, by actually saying to the other bishops, you know, i'm the bishop of rome, i'm not the head -- i'm not the pope of the whole church, is saying that we are going to have to take much more control of our lives. now, what role they play on these issues is the question. is...
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church congregations are declining. the number of people going to church on sunday is shrinking. in brazil there is a real challenge from evangelical churches. everyone i have been speaking to says that is of great concern. catholics are beginning 0 leave the church. they are finding the evangelical churches responding more immediately to their needs, so a feeling the catholic church has become very removed from the people, so i think that is a situation reflected in argentina, so a sense of people turning away from the church, a huge challenge for the region. i have heard people say the priorities of the pope will depend on where they come from. i think it is fair to say we will be looking at real challenges and a decline in congregations, a decline in the number of people actually going to church here. >> in rome tonight there is surprise. there is excitement. there is a mixture of feelings about what it will mean for the papacy going forward. i wonder if there is a sense of unease that changes coming, that it might not be changed, that some of them actually want. >> you were t
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the greek catholic church in ukraine, the catholic church in egypt. they follow the eastern orthodox liturgy and they are in full communion with rome. the pope wanted them to be with him to symbolize the full universe salt of the church. the riot to usously diverse. >> the procession. >> that's what i want to know. if you can walk us through and tell us what's happening. >> what's happening, this is the procession leading up from the tomb through the heart of st. peter's basilica. they are going out into st. peter's square to the altar area that has been set up where pope francis will lead this liturgy. before the mass begins the two key sort of ceremonial moments will be he will receive the pallium, the woolen band of cloth that symbolizes his role as the shepherd of the universal church and the fissuremhfisherm. after that's been bestowed on him, then the normal mass for the feast of saint joseph will begin. today, march 19th is the feast of saint joseph, the husband of mary, the patron of the worldwide catholic church. perfect bit of symbolism. the
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. ♪ >>> this sunday, a new pope, a new day for the catholic church, and new questions about the church'snfluence on american politics. we have perspective this morning on the journey ahead for pope francis. from cardinal francis george, the archbishop of chicago. what message do the cardinals need send for the first-ever pope from latin america? a special discussion, as well weather our roundtable on how well francis reforms the church. plus, the debt duel in washington. is there any room for compromise and is the president right when he argues a balanced budget isn't a priority at the moment? the debate this morning. with us, republican whip of the house, california congressman kevin mccarthy, and the top democrat on the house budget committee, chris van hollen of maryland. then the future of the gop and a senator's change of heart on gay marriage. is it the beginning of a changing tide in the party? wisconsin's republican governor scott walker weighs in. >>> from nbc news in washington, the world's longest running television program. this is "meet the press" with david gregory. >>> and
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household church was the original church, and the hostess there was the presider. she was not a priest because there were no priests, but as time went on, the general prejudices of the society insected the church, and they are hanging on to them longer than others because the church now pretends to be changeless. once a bad idea gets in, even if it's from a fairly acceptable thing at the time, it's very hard to extrude it, you know, because of the church. they claim they never change. people said, well, should we have women priests? i hope not. i don't want priests. i want women leaders. we are getting them. in my church that i've been going to for 33 years, it's a campus church at northwestern university, and as all campus churches or parrishs in general, priests have come and gone. we had no say in that. the priest comes when the bishop tells them to and goes when the bishop tells them to. one priest we wantedded to hold on to, and we asked to let him say, and he said, no, i have other uses for him. that's one of the bad things about this hierarchy totalitarianis
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silence of the church is notorious. whether we look at pope um church xxii.-- jchlt spe -- [ speaking foreign language ] >> one of the thing that happened in argentina is that the government went after leftist dissidents by murdering them, torturing them and in a perverse twist when the death of those dissidents left orphan children they would take those children and give them to friend. regime. people were raised by people they thought were their mother and father who were cronies of the regime who murdered their mother and father. >> it was brought out and made an issue of it. >> when we come back i'll show you a snippet of it and then read the apology that cardinal jorge mario bergoglio offered. try running four. fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase. a hairline fracture to the mandible and contusions to the metacarpus. w
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he wasn't the only one inside the church that was beating people up. he was the head of the church. and it's quite remarkable to think that, you know, that kind of behavior can go on. more over, people that were some of the people who are beaten and others were confined. there are reeducation camps called rehactation project force in different locations. ease specially in the -- especially in the desert compound in southern california, the clearing gi of scientology has the headquarter. a 500 acre compound. on the compound there are two double wide trailers that are married together. at one point he decided that he was going to start sending some of his top level executives there for kind of reeducation. and they were the furniture was taken out. they slept on the floor on sleeping bags. they allowed out once day for a shower in the garage. they were supposed to query each other about their crimes. what has gone wrong? i'll tell you what went wrong inside of that? there was a lot of physical confrontation. a lot of abuse. more than 100 people at one point really the entire top tier
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joseph, the patron saint of the universal church. brian?> you said two striking things during our live coverage earlier today. that was how silent it got when he asked for silence, and what it was like as he read the prayer, as he led the group in prayer and everyone in the square followed along. >> reporter: it was. the prayers he said, and he said them in italian, were our father, the hail mary and the glory be. you had more than 100,000 people all joining in in those three prayers. then the pope asked for a silent prayer for himself. and suddenly all these people went quiet. the only thing i could hear around me were the camera shutters going off. but everybody -- it was an incredibly reverential moment that brought people from many countries together in support of this man -- this 76-year-old man who is now the 266th pontiff of the catholic church. brian? >> anne thompson had a great perspective today at the vatican starting off our coverage. anne, thanks. beyond the vatican, perhaps nowhere is there more joy tonight than in argentina.
joseph, the patron saint of the universal church. brian?> you said two striking things during our live coverage earlier today. that was how silent it got when he asked for silence, and what it was like as he read the prayer, as he led the group in prayer and everyone in the square followed along. >> reporter: it was. the prayers he said, and he said them in italian, were our father, the hail mary and the glory be. you had more than 100,000 people all joining in in those three prayers....
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church of heresy.any conservative american congregations have broken away from the episcopal church and aligned themselves with african anglicans. there have been a series of contentious lawsuits over church property, and some congregations are now worshipping in schools. bitterness still prevails in many quarters throughout the communion. welby concedes in such circumstances, it's difficult to even think about reconciliation. >> reconciliation is extraordinarily painful for those involved in the conflict. >> some people have a fear maybe that when one talks about reconciliation, what they might really mean is just papering over differences in order to -- >> yes, absolutely. >> ju get along you know, the most important thing is that we get along. >> oh, fuzzy wuzzy tolerance, sort of fluffy, where it would all be nice if we were nice to each other sort of rubbish. yes, that's, that's not at all what we're talking about. it's not a magic wand that you wave over people and suddenly everyone's happy, and
church of heresy.any conservative american congregations have broken away from the episcopal church and aligned themselves with african anglicans. there have been a series of contentious lawsuits over church property, and some congregations are now worshipping in schools. bitterness still prevails in many quarters throughout the communion. welby concedes in such circumstances, it's difficult to even think about reconciliation. >> reconciliation is extraordinarily painful for those...
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we're joined by the pastor of our lady of the lake church. what did you make of this church? >> i'm delayed. as a man of true humility. i'm elated he said to the people pray for me. i like that very much. i like the fact he took francis. in the mailed ages, saint francis said to the pope we need to reform the church. if this church is in need of anything, it's serious reform. for him to take that name is a statement that says he knows we need to change. you were speaking about the moral changes. i don't think the teachings will change but the way you package something matters a lot, as you know. and i think this pope will give a very human face, a compassionate face, to teachings that's not always's to take but true teaching. i think he'll stay loyal to the teaching but a more humannen face. >> neil: if you forgive my typical media shallow-type question. even those who loved him and marveled at his career in argentina, if you will, didn't give him high marks on charisma or high marks on stunning sermons, just knock your socks off or homilies that you never forget. in reading
we're joined by the pastor of our lady of the lake church. what did you make of this church? >> i'm delayed. as a man of true humility. i'm elated he said to the people pray for me. i like that very much. i like the fact he took francis. in the mailed ages, saint francis said to the pope we need to reform the church. if this church is in need of anything, it's serious reform. for him to take that name is a statement that says he knows we need to change. you were speaking about the moral...
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church. the name symbolizes poverty, humility ti and simplicity n that spirit of humility and simplicity, the world heard pope francis speak. >> translator: i would like to offer you my blessing. but i'd like to ask a favor first. first before the bishop bless the people i would like to pray for the lord so that the prayer of the people blesses also the new pontiff. >> reporter: and another first today. a twitter announcement of the new pontiff from the handle @ @pontiff x. >> translator: as you know, the duty of the conclave was to uphold a bishop in rome and it seems to me that my brothers, cardinals have chosen one from far away, but here i am. >> reporter: i want to get to anderson cooper in rome. when the shouts and cheers went up, he was in the crowd. it must have been an incredible moment to feel that spontaneous elation and joy. tell us about the reaction. >> it really was. from the moment we saw the white smoke, i literally ran over to st. peter's a couple blocks behind me along with
church. the name symbolizes poverty, humility ti and simplicity n that spirit of humility and simplicity, the world heard pope francis speak. >> translator: i would like to offer you my blessing. but i'd like to ask a favor first. first before the bishop bless the people i would like to pray for the lord so that the prayer of the people blesses also the new pontiff. >> reporter: and another first today. a twitter announcement of the new pontiff from the handle @ @pontiff x. >>...
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he needs to lead the church in a direction where people want the church to be.ople living in poverty including in our own neighborhoods to see him taking the church in a way that the church would want to follow. >> b what about this idea that the huffington post brought up that really organized religion's role in the world of politics is the reason people are being driven away. our politics are so part san. they really don't want the religion to be that way. >> we are tagged with being right wing radical social conservatives, an ond on. really all we are about is the fiscal issues. the government needs to get out of religion and there should be separation there. it's not government's place to insert themselveses into those issues. that's why we believe in states rights. put the decisions back to the states where they belong and get the government out of our lives. at the end of the day, it's people all across the world that are responsible for instilling the values in our children. so obviously there's been a breakdown. i think what's important here is this man
he needs to lead the church in a direction where people want the church to be.ople living in poverty including in our own neighborhoods to see him taking the church in a way that the church would want to follow. >> b what about this idea that the huffington post brought up that really organized religion's role in the world of politics is the reason people are being driven away. our politics are so part san. they really don't want the religion to be that way. >> we are tagged with...
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priestley celibacy is not a doctrine of the church, it's a discipline of the church. i do expect him to change it, no. could he change it, yes. possible, yes, probable, no. but there is that distinction. our nation of women, that's a doctrinal thing, that's to the discipline. >> rose: how do you respond to the fact that this really is the century of women, and this is a church that needs to have women as part of its -- >> sure, well i tell you this. when we walked into the sistine chapel, you all probably carried it live. we were saying the litany. saints. now the highest you can be called to in the catholic church is to be a saint. and of the saints that we prayed, more than half were women. so so the woman who is the greatest human being model, the person who is the greatest human being model for us happened to be a model. that's where the church is at her best. that's where -- that's where the church has always been known for lifting women up, in nobling them. >> rose: let me close with this last question. i think you said that he said to the fellow cardinals as he
priestley celibacy is not a doctrine of the church, it's a discipline of the church. i do expect him to change it, no. could he change it, yes. possible, yes, probable, no. but there is that distinction. our nation of women, that's a doctrinal thing, that's to the discipline. >> rose: how do you respond to the fact that this really is the century of women, and this is a church that needs to have women as part of its -- >> sure, well i tell you this. when we walked into the sistine...
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the pews and into churches.art of the way he can do that in latin america is because he has worked with the poor and put poor people so much at the forefront of his own ministry. he said just a xulve years ago i live in a continent has seen huge economic growth. the poor have not benefited from the economic growth we have seen and maybe a message amongst latin americans, at least, can help get the catholic churches full again. that is restoring faith, both in his own continent but of course here in north america and europe where it's declining very rapidly is central to this pope's mission. >> jon meacham, there have been challenges and will be challenges to this pope's selection from people inside and outside of the church because he is conservative theologically. "the wall street journal" writes this morning, as for the lament that pope francis is merely another catholic who believes in catholic doingmgma what do you think? that means they need to be less religious to survive in the modern world and strikes as
the pews and into churches.art of the way he can do that in latin america is because he has worked with the poor and put poor people so much at the forefront of his own ministry. he said just a xulve years ago i live in a continent has seen huge economic growth. the poor have not benefited from the economic growth we have seen and maybe a message amongst latin americans, at least, can help get the catholic churches full again. that is restoring faith, both in his own continent but of course...
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>> the catholic church is not that large. the fact it is from the southern hemisphere might reenergize. >> dr. becker, thank you for providing your insights. >> it is a joy. >> coming up, chrisistians cry t for help i in the m middle off . prayer. >> an egyptian christian held in a libyan jail has died. voice of the martyrs reports he was detained simply for spreading the gospel. akeem suffered from asthma and other ailments. he had been sent to the hospital with chest pains and breathing problems. experienced shortness of breath, died. more bad news for christians in libya. witnesses say unidentified attackers set a benghazi church on fire. security official says forces stopped the attackers before gospel. al-qaeda is on the rise in north africa. in the bull's eye is country of mali. gary lane traveled to the town of diaboli. >> reporter: for more than a fight in mali. 75-year-old villager describes how rebel gun fire frightened him. he has never sxeerns ee ee eed experienced such terror. >> they started selling drugs. >> an
>> the catholic church is not that large. the fact it is from the southern hemisphere might reenergize. >> dr. becker, thank you for providing your insights. >> it is a joy. >> coming up, chrisistians cry t for help i in the m middle off . prayer. >> an egyptian christian held in a libyan jail has died. voice of the martyrs reports he was detained simply for spreading the gospel. akeem suffered from asthma and other ailments. he had been sent to the hospital with...
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or reinforce the church. that's got to be essential really at least in the minds of the cart numbers. >> rose: stay with me, i wanted to bring in monsignor. >> i wanted to say something. he was latin american and the church in latin america is very important to the church and the holy sea. >> rose: because that's where the growing numbers are. >> it's not just a question of numbers, it's a question where the battle has been going on for the past 10-15 years to decide whether the faith or being a catholic can change a society and justice to it. the liberation of theology. cardinal -- had to deal with that because mainly john paul the second put it on his lap. >> rose: right. >> he's always been hurt to the church giving priority to the poor. >> rose: who is that. >> ratsinger. >> rose: pope benedict. >> exactly. this guy is from latin america. the church in america has made a commitment that has extended to the whole world which we start particularly start latin america which called the preferencionual option
or reinforce the church. that's got to be essential really at least in the minds of the cart numbers. >> rose: stay with me, i wanted to bring in monsignor. >> i wanted to say something. he was latin american and the church in latin america is very important to the church and the holy sea. >> rose: because that's where the growing numbers are. >> it's not just a question of numbers, it's a question where the battle has been going on for the past 10-15 years to decide...
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, a badly divided church.ncludes 1.2 billion members is going to have a lot of currents. in his own life, pope francis profiled to someone who had a record of straddling those divides within his own religious congregation, in his own sprawling archdiocese in buenos aires. he is a man having a history of being able to bring together a variety of different instincts and outlooks on things. now, of course, he's going to have to try to be that reconciler, and that bridge builder. the term pontiff literally means bridge builder. he now has the challenge and opportunity to do that on a much vaster, global scale. >> john allen, our senior vatican analyst. anderson, of course, will have much, more at 8:00 eastern on a krrc 360. >> lisa sylvester is looking into this. who is pope francis? >> the first question that people had is, what exactly do we call him? is he pope francis i, or do we just call him pope francis? to clear that up, the guidance we're getting from the vatican is just pope francis. there is a lot of me
, a badly divided church.ncludes 1.2 billion members is going to have a lot of currents. in his own life, pope francis profiled to someone who had a record of straddling those divides within his own religious congregation, in his own sprawling archdiocese in buenos aires. he is a man having a history of being able to bring together a variety of different instincts and outlooks on things. now, of course, he's going to have to try to be that reconciler, and that bridge builder. the term pontiff...
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there's the church in africa. the church in the west. it is varied. it is extraordinary. it is bubbling. it is ever evolving. so that's one thing. -- the american catholic polling that you mentioned, it is totally true that there's this great bubbling of liberal positions on what we call the social issues. at the same time, a poll came out this week that said 77% of american catholics think pope benedict did a great job. and he was a great pope. now, he is at the opposite from what they say they're for. so there's a great deal of-- let me just say bubbling because i can't think of another word. there's extraordinary variety and the ability to accept tension and disagreement within the church. what would i love to see? i would love to see a pope who comes forward who is joyous anyway, in spite of condition of the world and in spite of the condition of the church, someone who doesn't have a sad furrowed brow look but it sully reacting to the world with a-- is actually reacting to the world with pleasure and a smile. i think he has two impossible but necessary tasks that mus
there's the church in africa. the church in the west. it is varied. it is extraordinary. it is bubbling. it is ever evolving. so that's one thing. -- the american catholic polling that you mentioned, it is totally true that there's this great bubbling of liberal positions on what we call the social issues. at the same time, a poll came out this week that said 77% of american catholics think pope benedict did a great job. and he was a great pope. now, he is at the opposite from what they say...
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of the catholic church.t has substantial influence at the many schools that its members run. the statements of the pope are most welcome here. >> these reforms are unfortunate, and the church has to make clear its position. thank god we can express our opinions openly and have the opportunity to question if these laws are appropriate. >> just 12% of spaniards go to mass, but most still want to attend weddings, first communions, and other ceremonies -- a dilemma for the church. >> spaniards are catholics but not practicing. all we did was inherit the face -- faith. >> still associated is the franco regime, which the church supported. it is a legacy which continues to cause much soul-searching among catholics. >> this is about a separation of the heart and mind. atop the catholic church is -- at heart of the catholic church as part of a long family tradition, but our hearts tell us something different. >> their work focuses on providing help for the homeless, unemployed, or disadvantage. >> i have to steal bec
of the catholic church.t has substantial influence at the many schools that its members run. the statements of the pope are most welcome here. >> these reforms are unfortunate, and the church has to make clear its position. thank god we can express our opinions openly and have the opportunity to question if these laws are appropriate. >> just 12% of spaniards go to mass, but most still want to attend weddings, first communions, and other ceremonies -- a dilemma for the church....
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the direction he takes this church will be the church they inherit, old and young.he decision means so much to them, and, of course, then has feather be father beck, larger significance because of the influence on society in general whether or not you're a believer. >> worldwide influence. these are not only catholic people you're looking at. this is every religion, every nationality, religious, laity. this is humanity right in front of us, witnessing what is about to happen on that balcony. it really is a vision of the catholic church. catholic, of course, means universal. and this is a universal view, right now, that we're seeing in st. peter's square. >> st. peter's square is packed to the gills. as i look around us here, down the street from st. peter's, people are running up, still flooding in, still coming all the way down the avenue as you look there, as you look up at the lights on either side of the road of constellation, people that go all the way up there. there is an announcement coming now, i believe. let's listen for a second. >> -- new pope who in a s
the direction he takes this church will be the church they inherit, old and young.he decision means so much to them, and, of course, then has feather be father beck, larger significance because of the influence on society in general whether or not you're a believer. >> worldwide influence. these are not only catholic people you're looking at. this is every religion, every nationality, religious, laity. this is humanity right in front of us, witnessing what is about to happen on that...
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they need more such of churches. they need more schools and hospitals. they need more priests and sisters and qualified lay leaders. you hear all about the joys. you hear all about the sorrows. it's a magnificent symphony in the life of the church they find very embracing very uplifting. >> schieffer: well, there is also your eminence, things like the cover-up of sexual crimes, pedophiles. you've got the cardinal from california-- >> sure. >> schieffer: who was accused of not being candid about things out there on that front. are we going to hear something about that because i take your point about all of the points that you just made. i understand that. but what we read borough and what we hear about are some of these very unsavory things that have come to light. >> you bet. >> schieffer: how seriously do the cardinals take these things, your eminence? >> we have to take it with the utmost seriousness and we have to have a sense of contrition, realism about confronting that. you're dead right. there's no cardinal with his head in the sand when it comes
they need more such of churches. they need more schools and hospitals. they need more priests and sisters and qualified lay leaders. you hear all about the joys. you hear all about the sorrows. it's a magnificent symphony in the life of the church they find very embracing very uplifting. >> schieffer: well, there is also your eminence, things like the cover-up of sexual crimes, pedophiles. you've got the cardinal from california-- >> sure. >> schieffer: who was accused of not...
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what is what the church is about to be. congregations have shrunk and churches clothed.y questions the the wins what the the the the but o one ever questioned his integrity and demotion. he -pl seemed to walk an ill rule mated arch. it's likely when he died he was the most admired and most loved human being on earth. >>> when we come back, a historic visit to the pope . hazelnut macchiato please. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] the new hazelnut macchiato from starbucks. crafted by hand & heart. >>> tonight on a second look, we're remembering some of the historic moments of visits by popes. one of the visits that captured attention was pope john paul ii's visit to germany. >> reporter: for jews everywhere, pope john paul ii's visit to the holocaust memorial did more than anything else to affirm this pope's recognition of jewish suffering during world war ii. a step toward acknowledging that christians did not do enough to. >> and this grace of anti sentism, the day the jews make christian. >> but he did go as far by formally apoll skwhraoeuzing for church silence durin
what is what the church is about to be. congregations have shrunk and churches clothed.y questions the the wins what the the the the but o one ever questioned his integrity and demotion. he -pl seemed to walk an ill rule mated arch. it's likely when he died he was the most admired and most loved human being on earth. >>> when we come back, a historic visit to the pope . hazelnut macchiato please. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] the new hazelnut macchiato from...
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church, i am a huge believer in church and i love church and i go to church and the church is more upon an organd the body of christ andit bride of christ. i never want people to take it that way and i never want to believe i talk badly about christ's wife. it will not go well for me . are you shocked by the reaction. 22 million views . my gosh, man . there are rock stars out there that would like to have 22 million people know whoo they are. jeff didn't always know jesus or talk about them and make them feel bad about what they said. i am going to ask him how he i am going to ask him how he founddddd i you're suffering from constipation, miralax or metamucil may take days to work. for faster relief, try dulcolac laxative tablets. dulcolac provides gentle relief overnight unlike miralax and metamucil that can take up to 3 days. this is me, too. act being like church kid and addicted to pornography. sunday going to church and saturday acted if i was created to have sex and get wasted. i spent my life of facade and neatness and now i know jesus, i boast in my weakness. [ applause ] >> tha
church, i am a huge believer in church and i love church and i go to church and the church is more upon an organd the body of christ andit bride of christ. i never want people to take it that way and i never want to believe i talk badly about christ's wife. it will not go well for me . are you shocked by the reaction. 22 million views . my gosh, man . there are rock stars out there that would like to have 22 million people know whoo they are. jeff didn't always know jesus or talk about them and...
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what is what the church is about to be. congregations have shrunk and churches clothed.is many questions the the wins what the the the the but o one ever questioned his integrity and demotion. he -pl seemed to walk an ill rule mated arch. it's likely when he died he was the most admired and most loved human being on earth. >>> when we come back, a historic visit to the pope . please. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] the new hazelnut macchiato from starbucks. crafted by hand & heart. >>> tonight on a second look, we're remembering some of the historic moments of visits by popes. one of the visits that captured attention was pope john paul ii's visit to germany. >> reporter: for jews everywhere, pope john paul ii's visit to the holocaust memorial did more than anything else to affirm this pope's recognition of jewish suffering during world war
what is what the church is about to be. congregations have shrunk and churches clothed.is many questions the the wins what the the the the but o one ever questioned his integrity and demotion. he -pl seemed to walk an ill rule mated arch. it's likely when he died he was the most admired and most loved human being on earth. >>> when we come back, a historic visit to the pope . please. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] the new hazelnut macchiato from starbucks. crafted by hand &...