who appoints it, borisjohnson or the civil service.he civil service. who appoints it, borisjohnson or dominic cummings? it is boris johnson. borisjohnson or dominic cummings? it is borisjohnson. the announcement tomorrow is my belief to come from the cabinet office. we know boris johnson to come from the cabinet office. we know borisjohnson wants reform of the civil service. we know dominic cummings has written a lot about he wa nts to cummings has written a lot about he wants to see changes to the way government works as well, that extends throughout the cabinet. there is the feeling it is hard to get things done. some of that is linked to the coronavirus response, some of it is a broader political ideology that they don't think the civil service was fully behind brexit when the referendum happened and that this rated theresa may. this is all part of the changing of the guard, not just this is all part of the changing of the guard, notjust in politics but in the civil service also. huge pressure on boris johnson in the civil service a

but two, this seems like dominic cummings wider strategy to call the civil service to reform the civilw it up, crazy destruction. talk about his lack of experience can he was offered knighthood by david cameron. was told by the then head of civil service, the cabinet officer, not to take it because he was too young. do you think though, susie, that he is in tune with dominic cummings on this because he isa dominic cummings on this because he is a diplomat, he's come from the palace, he's got some quite difficult things to do, hasn't he, if dominic cummings's plan is going to be executed. i thinki if dominic cummings's plan is going to be executed. i think i will be more interesting that it's being reported elsewhere tonight that he didn't even apply for thejob. he was made for the job. he was made to tickets by borisjohnson who boris johnson who rang borisjohnson who rang prince william, apparently, in person and said do you mind if i take your chap and prince william said, anything i can to help, because simon case was working at the palace and came to number ten for a bit, working at

——in the civil service.mocracy. i think it has been tested in ways it wasn't designed to be tested. i think to go to the point thomas makes, of course there is no election in this country until 2024 and, yes, there is a massive majority supporting johnson, but i think what you are seeing is this erosion of his moral authority as a leader. and that can be crippling, even if you're not going to be defeated in the house of commons. and i think the u—turns we were just talking about really do undermine his ability. and i think you see it in all sorts of ways. we haven't talked about dominic cummings. i think the behaviour of dominic cummings during lockdown really undermined the government's moral authority to say... he is the chief adviser to the uk prime minister. yes, and in defiance of the rules of lockdown, he went on a private sojourn with his family that was completely out of line with what the government were saying, yet he didn't get punished or suspended. and it was really that sense that there is a ru

, i think it is going to do huge damage to the civil service, but nothing much will follow to his ownthe issue thomas raises about the majority because he is absolutely right, you can to some extent do what you like when you have a majority of that size, 80—plus. interestingly, it has not prevented borisjohnson performing a list of u—turns on some policies. during the coronavirus pandemic, which is ongoing, and also on key domestic issues like the one that we saw over the exams, over gcse and a—level results. so, despite this, interestingly, much of the opposition has come from within his own party. and many of them, from what they call the red—wall seats, the former labour seats, had persuaded borisjohnson to do a u—turn which, over time, has a cumulative effect of looking like a government that is not as strong as it should be with a majority like that. or arguably, that is the flexibility, the opposite of what thomas was calling it, when they realise the mistake has been made, they turn it round. jeffrey, might this be a case where an administration comes in, like in the us system,

as pa rt don't matter, the civil service as part of nefarious deep stage. it drew on a kind of sense of alienation from existing is distrust of government, angered. covid has been a wake—up call and isobel is com pletely been a wake—up call and isobel is completely right. most of the successful cases of near competence are government run by women, but they share other things. they have all of the science, the facts, they have communicated well, they have told the truth to their own people. asa told the truth to their own people. as a result, by and large, they have brought people along with them. that is what governments, in theory, in this pre—populist age, werejudged on. what is going to be fascinating now is whether this renewed sense of that government actually matters, and that when you are faced with a crisis, particularly a crisis like covid, which can't be treated away and doesn't listen to rhetoric, doesn't follow a particular ideology— what you need a government to do is do itsjob. people like jacinda and hearn in new zealand, angela merkel, with

we haven't spoken to civil service commission directly. chief scott mentioned, we're all part of the process now to make sure we're responsive to anything that comes up. >> i like to direct my same question to partners at d.h.r. >> we're currently working on a report to the civil service commission that we will be presenting hopefully next month. this is in response to supervisor walton's resolution and request from the commission on the review of hiring, selection process and training in police and sheriff departments. >> thank you director finley. we can come back to -- actually, i like to hear from since we have a representative body, is either president buford or director sims still on the phone? i like to have them weigh in and hear what they have to say about or if they have background or information on the testing process and the move to this national network and what their opinion and feeling is on this. >> i was part of the group. i'm getting on the board of 798. we did speak directly to the civil service commission when this proc

gone tomorrow, but the silver surface is there forever and that's what gives stability —— the civil serviceiasco in gcse and a—levels, not just in blamed for the fiasco in gcse and a—levels, notjust in england, but in the other regions of the united kingdom as well, and altogether, since covid—19, we have at about 15 u—turns but several of them apply to schools, primary schools supposed to return injune, schools, primary schools supposed to return in june, they schools, primary schools supposed to return injune, they did not. we we re return injune, they did not. we were not supposed to have masks and schools, and i we will have them in communal areas where distancing is not possible. when the facts change, i change my mind, but many of the traps are perfectly visible, you can see them coming, especially when you have got a highly skilled civil service said to advise ministers and ministers decide. and i think people, particularly tory mps, are noticing a pattern of a prime minister who is quite hands—off, he wa nts to minister who is quite hands—off, he wants to delegate but take the glory

the machinery of government, we can complain about bureaucracy, but when the civil service works, itmaking complete idiots of themselves by pointing out their bright ideas were tried 20 years ago and didn't it work then and won't work now. that is a very important safety net when you have an untested set of politicians. so it's all a bit of a disaster. the second factor, i would say, is that in an insurgent government, ideology tends to matter more than competence. so you tend to have loyal ministers, chosen for loyalty and not necessarily for their past performance. when they make mistakes, as we have discovered in this country, they are not sacked because loyalty matters more than anything. that is a set of characteristics, honestly, 00:16:24,630 --> 4294966103:13:29,430 you do not want in a leader. ned? your views of all of that? i want to build on something that isobel said. that is that it is a crucial question because we are in a period where, pre—covid, there was this tide of populist leaders, one strand of which was the notion that experts don't matter, the civil service is p

he replaces sir mark sedwill, who is due to step down as head of the civil service next month.us more about simon case. number ten isn't officially commentating on this but sources have confirmed that there will be a meeting tomorrow where borisjohnson will officially reveal the name, but we widely expect it we widely expect it to be simon case, someone who's fairly young for the job, quite frankly. he is a1, he's been a civil servant since 2006. as you say, he worked for the duke of cambridge and was made boris johnson's permanent secretary in may. the wider context for this is a fairly radical shake—up going on at the moment of the civil service. in the last few weeks we've had a number of senior people, permanent secretaries of various departments, the old cabinet secretary sir mark sedwill as well, announcing unexpectedly they would stand down and now borisjohnson has got someone who he's fairly close to. the eat out to help 0ut scheme ends today. it's been enormously popular, with more than 64 million discounted meals dished up in 84,000 restaurants and cafes across the uk

we haven't spoken to civil service commission directly. chief scott mentioned, we're all part of the process now to make sure we're responsive to anything that comes up. >> i like to direct my same question to partners at d.h.r. >> we're currently working on a report to the civil service commission that we will be presenting hopefully next month. this is in response to supervisor walton's resolution and request from the commission on the review of hiring, selection process and training in police and sheriff departments. >> thank you director finley. we can come back to -- actually, i like to hear from since we have a representative body, is either president buford or director sims still on the phone? i like to have them weigh in and hear what they have to say about or if they have background or information on the testing process and the move to this national network and what their opinion and feeling is on this. >> i was part of the group. i'm getting on the board of 798. we did speak directly to the civil service commission when this proc

i actually think we need to talk to civil service and the questions about exams and civil service and so much is related to a lot of it and i think that the larger and after i held hearings on temporary employees too and why are they -- why are they temporary for 20 years and then we look at civil service so i think the whole hiring if you would like to call for a hearing, i'm happy to call for a hearing for you because i look right now at public-health and 1,156 vacancies and this is what i see and there's an issue here and they are not the only department and -- i would love to co-sponsor that with you supervisor. >> sure. and i just wanted to mention it and i hear you. i was involved in a deep investigation of our hiring in this city prior to covid and have been stymied since. and now, we are for the next couple weeks, so to focus on the budget but this is something that i want to follow-up with you and it's been disturbing me for quite some time and quite frankly, a major reason why we're not making progress of some of the most entrenched difficult issues in our city. i look forwa

but the fact that you've now got thousands of officials across whitehall and the whole of the uk civil servicepy to shoot the blame off of them when it was their own fault and for government, it isa their own fault and for government, it is a pretty dangerous place to be in that they will come and bite it in the back before the next crisis lands and they‘ re in the back before the next crisis lands and they're going to find themselves in a situation where officials won't take the blame any more. also on the guardian, the rush for vaccine can make the pandemic worse. why. it completely makes sense and to or brexit cliche, the problem of the stories that bad vaccine is worse than the vaccine at all. because of bad vaccine on the vaccinates 20 or 30% of the people who get it, but 100% of those people feel competent that they're not going to get it. you can see how that will make a bad situation a lot worse. it will be lowered into a fourth sense of security when in fa ct, fourth sense of security when in fact, we just waiting for the good vaccine and continuing to be socially distant and responsi

hand in hand with that probably was the advent of civil service. being a tammany man, there were rumors he wanted to pack everything with democrats. but this became more prevalent as it got to the end of his gubernatorial career, the most qualified person should have the job. smith was well-known to having people in his cabinet that were republicans, that were not enrolled. people that had nothing to do with government at all. in fact, his highway commissioner was a military engineer who had republican affiliations. smith wanted the most qualified people around him. and some of that bled into the civil service. he also wanted to have strong labor relations. he stood up for those that came to labor that were often shunted aside. the reactionary forces often embodied in the republican party fought him on this. he took that campaign, he had the support of the afl-cio. the afl, i should say, the cio joined later. the afl championed him in the state but not nationally in the 1928 campaign. >> beverly gage, those issues that john evers was talking about,

that's my only consideration, too. >> and for my clarification, chair, why wouldn't those civil service employees be able to go to another classification? >> clarification is stables in golden gate park, yeah. >> ok. >> chair: do you have an opinion, supervisor walton, on what has been proposed so far? >> i definitely am in support of cutting overtime and academies. i think that you and i want t al of the academies being on the table. i would be ok with putting one on reserve, which i think is what president yee stated. >> chair: i think president yee said he would cut it by 50% and keep two academies and you are saying cut three academies and put one in reserve and president yee is saying keeping two academies. is that correct, president yee? you're on mute, president. >> yes, that's correct. >> chair: ok. and i'm hearing from you -- are you in agreement cutting 50% of the overtime and putting 25 of that 50% on reserve? >> i would be in agreement in it was something that the entire committee was ok just half of overtime budget. >> chair: thank you very much. supervisor mandelman. >> ca

across the pond think public anger over austerity so people taking to the streets students civil service. and police officers were among those who took part in antigovernment actions so your power numbers again says that they are a mess intervention needs reassessing. their you may really want to support it but there are yes it's least the following we measures 1st it's probably ourselves the human rights impacts of the conditions attached to its loans and policies that impose a cost on that must be said bent the sectors including indigenous peoples must be absolutely. it should respect democratic processes for economic decision making agreements must be negotiated transpired. and this means refraining from exerting any influence over fiscal policy decisions in the country. in terms of maybe tough in ecuador but one couple there is celebrating because they've just been crowned the world's 'd oldest married couple after being together for nearly 18 years. but. i have this image of you know it's a couple of dad and mom doing everything together from the schedule so children bass to help wi

secretary, was trying to shift the blame from ministerial decisions and making it seem like it was a civil serviceoger taylor, the executive chair of 0fqual, put his foot down. know what is interesting here is how readily williamson, how quickly he climbed down in the face of this threat. now that suggests to me that there's more to this than meets the i, and actually the error ofjudgement, meets the i, and actually the error of judgement, the catastrophic meets the i, and actually the error ofjudgement, the catastrophic error ofjudgement, the catastrophic error ofjudgement, the catastrophic error of judgement by williamson ofjudgement, the catastrophic error ofjudgement by williamson to insist that grades be decided by algorithms rather than by teacher markings, was that he did realise that he had been warned about this and perhaps there was a warned about this and perhaps there wasa paper warned about this and perhaps there was a paper trail that 0fqual had to prove that. i'm surmising a bit, but reading between the lines, that's what i think this story is hinting at. tim, what else might this r

here police or any sort of representation of the government any sort of government emergency civil services cleaning up we saw a little bit further down this road. it seemed from a foreign thank you a team from the emergency foreign see how the search for bodies in the rubble they have been digging up and ali is showing you now the building of the lebanon electricity company on the iconic buildings really in these parts of beirut every single window blown out so a lot of searching going on a lot of cleaning up going on all being dumb seemingly from what we've seen mainly by ball and sees. every seen macron france the french president from that promising help but also calling for political reforms what are the challenges there. well the challenge is for micron or any foreign political leader organization who wants to help lebanon is the only people they're able to talk to at the moment are the political leadership that has been responsible for the decay of lebanon over the last 30 years alternately really people will argue led to this catastrophic explosion there were popular protests in oct

large amounts of money to people who are very widely regarded as corrupt in the government and civil serviceference summit will invoke today and we will be watching very closely to see what conditionality is attached to any money coming fourth and i guess they would be little problem in getting emergency funds flowing in great amounts, but it would be channelled more towards the ngos, the civil society groups that have proved so effective in the immediate aftermath of the blast, the clearing up of beirut has been done in very large pa rt by beirut has been done in very large part by the people of beirut and at the ngos that had been helping them. there has been a really marked absence on the ground of government input, an effort to get the crisis and start to put people —— for people to start putting their lives back together. thank you very much. here in the uk, a major teaching union has criticised the prime minister's suggestion that schools in england have a "moral duty" to get children back into their classrooms next month. borisjohnson has said that schools will take priority over pubs

are these civil service positions? how are you setting up the testing to hire the positions on this timeline? >> sure. thank you. most of the growth that you are seeing in our budget those 30 some fte on temp salaries is to backfill people. those are temp six month positions. we have over $1 million of folks sitting in temporary positions somewhere stuck in the permanent exam process. we have hired two dedicated hr positions that are 100% focused on our exams. a lot of what is happens is people that have been stuck in temporary positions who will be appointed to the permanent position and in terms of growth in our budget, it is around just who can we bring on to quickly backfill for six months or so? it is not that we were going to be running, you know, all of these recruitments as permanent civil service that takes nine months. that is not realistic, not what the budget says. we have a new it position. a wonderful person sitting in the role about to expire. we want to bring her on permanently. we have a huge expansion

also, our men and women in the foreign service, civil service, and foreign service nationals, at americay looking and our embassies and our national interests. had some fun over the past two weeks. we had quite a few folks come on board. theamped up with national security advisor and lots in between. can you take one moment or speaker or event, something over the past two weeks that really struck you, that was a highlight for you in our context of truck to bring some color to the importance of america's role in the world? paula, do you want to start, ambassador dobriansky and then ambassador bell? amb. dobriansky: absolutely. i have to say the highlight for me was the interview with ambassador robert o'brien, who is the national security advisor to united states president donald trump. in this interview, i think that he really shared a lot of the kinds of not only achievements of the administration but he placed a real premium on the importance of our allies, of our alliances, but also the need for economic strength and for military strength. interview wase very comprehensive, very insigh

talking about the deep state since president trump was elected because it has always felt like the civil serviceexecutive branch. those employees who have worked their entire lives in the cia, the fbi, across the government are against him, that they are trying to keep america going in the same direction despite his effort to change things for the better, as he would say. he has always felt that the washington establishment, what ben rhodes calls the blog as well as the deep state, is pushing back against them. during his time as president to play the outsider. it is difficult to do when the white house is in charge, making policy for four years. tack thats still the he is taking. tom: terrific briefing. leslie vinjamuri with chatham house. really quite good. with the news in new york city, our first word news, here is ritika gupta. ritika: the european union's top trade negotiator is fighting to keep his job. callis after attending a society dinner in ireland. after saying no events should be organized at cafes and restaurants. he has been key in trade talks between the u.s. and the u.k. the u.

are these civil service positions? how are you setting up the testing to hire the positions on this timeline? >> sure. thank you. most of the growth that you are seeing in our budget those 30 some fte on temp salaries is to backfill people. those are temp six month positions. we have over $1 million of folks sitting in temporary positions somewhere stuck in the permanent exam process. we have hired two dedicated hr positions that are 100% focused on our exams. a lot of what is happens is people that have been stuck in temporary positions who will be appointed to the permanent position and in terms of growth in our budget, it is around just who can we bring on to quickly backfill for six months or so? it is not that we were going to be running, you know, all of these recruitments as permanent civil service that takes nine months. that is not realistic, not what the budget says. we have a new it position. a wonderful person sitting in the role about to expire. we want to bring her on permanently. we have a huge expansion

i think the depletion of civil service and disregard for expertise.hole litany here. >> all right. thanks for your time today. >>> coming up, two sisters with very different views of their brothers. secret tapes reveal mary trump's unvarnished view of the president. joe bind's sister and closest political adviser sits down for an exclusive interview about her brother. >>> we're looking ahead to the republican national convention which kicks off tomorrow in charlotte. the mayor joins to talk about how her city is preparing for a convention like no other. stay with us. ther stay with us i wish i could shake your hand. granted. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ i wondered.. could another come around the corner? or could it play out differently? i wanted to help protect myself. my doctor recommended eliquis. eliquis is proven to treat and help prevent another dvt or pe blood clot. almost 98 percent of patients on eliquis didn't experience another. -and eliquis has significantly less major bleeding than the standard treatm

we are dealing with a regime and they don't exist forgive us civil service commission. they're saying homosexual as a noun does not exist. point to the numbers that actually. [inaudible] >> so what were the concrete demands of the homophile movement? what were their strategies for achieving them? >> will prior to rank, there is a glimmer of radicalism which is treat respectability. there is been pushed back especially by martin meeker. you see at the very beginning for people who don't know, in 1950, in the context of mccarthyism, at least on a national tried to, such as the end of the yea purges. were the lavender scare. they came from the communist party, there were literally members and quite involved in it. or they were fellow travelers for the early activists initiated their own purges of the communists. of those who threaten their own political progress. so after 53, you see that respectability work becomes more of similarly let's prove to the world that we are good, moral, upstanding citizens. all the way until frank hannity in 1961 when he in a few other alleys

i worry about his astacks on america's civil service and americans themselves.he president was more interested in using dhs to protect confederate statues than he was to protect the lives of black americans who feel like they're still being targeted in some corners of our country because of the color of our skin. if that man is still president for four more years, it'll be a damage to our national security most certainly, but it will do damage to our national character. that's what i worry about. that's why i'm going to fight against him. that's why even as a republican i think joe biden should win on november 3rd. >> we are out of time. do you want to tell us who the other officials in your organization are? do you want to break that they wills tonight? >> we'll tell you very soon. we've even got some people inside the administration. and the president's really not going to like that. >> feel free to come back and tell us on the show. miles taylor, appreciate you. >> thanks, joy. >>> still ahead, the fall of jerry falwell jr. and his bizarre almost symbiotic re

it's a civil service.e need to do everything we can to be sure that they get out to that last mile to every person who needs it every single day week, week in, week out. >> yeah. i want to actually ask about where i think this is headed. we saw there's a "washington post" report this morning that indicated some of the changes he wants to make, now that he's agreed to wait until after the election. but some of it has to do with the last mile that you just talked about. there's an idea to charge more to send mail to alaska and hawaii, or to some areas. if that's the direction the postal service goes, is that something you think there's going to be broad support for? do you believe the postal service should be run as a business so depending on the state you live in could depend on how much it costs to mail something? >> that's a great question. i can tell you the framers of the constitution didn't think that. they said it was our job to have post office and post roads. they knew even back then, hundreds of ye

that's my only consideration, too. >> and for my clarification, chair, why wouldn't those civil service employees be able to go to another classification? >> clarification is stables in golden gate park, yeah. >> ok. >> chair: do you have an opinion, supervisor walton, on what has been proposed so far? >> i definitely am in support of cutting overtime and academies. i think that you and i want t al of the academies being on the table. i would be ok with putting one on reserve, which i think is what president yee stated. >> chair: i think president yee said he would cut it by 50% and keep two academies and you are saying cut three academies and put one in reserve and president yee is saying keeping two academies. is that correct, president yee? you're on mute, president. >> yes, that's correct. >> chair: ok. and i'm hearing from you -- are you in agreement cutting 50% of the overtime and putting 25 of that 50% on reserve? >> i would be in agreement in it was something that the entire committee was ok just half of overtime budget. >> chair: thank you very much. supervisor mandelman. >> ca

, the tens of thousands of men and women who serve this country in our foreign service and our civil serviceand he thinks those rules don't apply to him. and i think that part of what is important here is not only is he violating the law, not only is he doing something that has never been done in the history of the united states, but he's doing something fundamentally dangerous. he's politicizing the office of secretary of state. the rest of the world needs to look at that person and see someone who is speaking for all of america, someone who is representing american national interest, not just the parochial political interest of himself or the president he serves. that's why secretaries of state don't do this. >> let's go down that very rabbit hole you just opened. how, then, do our allies and, for that matter, our adversaries who are all smart people view what happened tonight? >> well, i think they've taken the measure of donald trump and mike pompeo, and they know that they're fundamentally interested only in their own political interest. and if you look at some of the things that pompeo

who habitually lies, who is not interested in government, who has disparaged expertise and calls civil service the deep state, who cannot look beyond the 24-hour media cycle. not only that the 24 hour twitter cycle he lives in. he can't do these things. this was evident to us when he was elected. it was evident to us the first three years of his presidency. what happened is inevitably he was got nothing to be equipped to deal with the crisis. he did not hire people equipped to deal with the crisis. he did not listen to experts like dr. fauci still in the government who could help with the crisis. the hard truth for america, this didn't need to happen, we didn't have to be sitting here with 160,000 people dead. these are the people running our government. that's what we need to decide in november. >> before we go, i would be remiss if i didn't ask you about the situation in lebanon, ben rhodes. trump called it an attack. what do you think of the quickness he was going to call it an attack when there's no evidence of that. it's a tragedy but not an attack. >> it's incredible irresponsible. he pr

you couldn't fire them because of civil service unions, et cetera. couldn't fire them. i got the accountability, va accountability. if you look at them, don't do a good job for the vets, boom, you're fired, get out. we terminated over 8,000 people that were not treating our vets well. they were there for a long time. that sounds a little bit cold but the truth is they got to treat our vets well, right? so they have to do it. we got accountability and we got va choice. but to achieve the vision that we've been talking about for so long we must finish the job and drain the washington swamp once and for all. and we're doing it. [applause] for years left-wing politicians and smiled and looked at american workers right in the eye an took advantage of them and lied to them. they took your endorsements, they took your money and took your votes and they did nothing. then they turned around and inflicted one corrupt betrayal of the american middle class after another. whether it was nafta, tpp, the horrible korea deal. the ridiculous paris climate accord. how is it working out f

when i was a young congressman, i served on the post office civil service committee.t the post office is losing money. they always -- they've been losing money for a long time. but the men and women who deliver the mail on a day-to-day basis, work very hard in spite of the weather, in spite of the political accusations right there, i think the challenge isn't the management of the organization. i think we resolve that problem by simply saying the last day to vote is november 3rd but if it takes awhile to account those votes, so be it. we don't need to know on election night. and by the way, the state legislator or governor, could help this process and undermine these false allegations of fraud if they simply move the process of sorting the mail and sorting these absentee ballots. for example in pennsylvania, you can't even begin opening the envelopes until 7:00 on election night. well, obviously, there's going to be delays. so let's move that process forward. let's sort and get ready to count on election day but let's quit thinking about, we need to know on election n

we need real civil service reform, but this president wants to make sure that we hold them accountable and i can tell you that secretary azar was on the phone with the president and me yesterday, as we were working through this. it's not just on the announcement that's coming today, it's more announcements that are coming this week and the weeks to follow, but we really need to make sure that we have good science and the proper protocol, but we also can't wait around and assume that this virus is going to go away, this president wants real results and that's why he took to twitter, but it wasn't just twitter. i have answered a number of phone calls from the president and had a number of meetings this last week to -- make sure we move it forward. >> so he does believe there are those in the fda to delay approvals until after the election -- >> don't see the same sense of urgency as he sees, and as we start to look at it, they know that some kind of result today is good for the american people and he just wants to make sure that they feel the same urgency. >> let's talk about the post of

you couldn't get them fired, because civil service, unions, different things. you couldn't fire them, now you can fry them. you can fire them quickly if they're not doing the job. it's a big deal, and we don't talk about it a lot. nobody talks about it, but they've been trying to get those things approved for more than four decades. now they are done, they are approved. we ended the obama-biden administration's war on american energy, and the united states is now the leading producer of oil and natural gas anywhere in the world. it's a big thing. [applause] and remember this -- if you look at what they are doing, biden, he wants to end fracking, and petroleum products, end petroleum. no natural gas, nothing. end everything. that's it. how does that work in texas? how does that work in pennsylvania? i was in pennsylvania yesterday. a place he said he was born in, which was true, but he left when he was, like, nine years old. he left a long time ago. he left seven decades ago. [laughter] he still calls it his home. his real home is a place he never leaves anymore

if you look at the courts, journalism, civil service, the intelligence community, there really has been an effort to stand for historic norms and institutions. for four years they. much years it could be deeper challenge. i think it would be a catastrophe. i worry about some of our institutions and the abuse of the justice department and state department, where i served for 27 years and the president calling the state department the deep state, what could be more crippling to morale in that. i let -- let's go to chris. >> thank you for an engaging discussion. while the is that progressive improvements of the opposition,a lot of they at least seems to have come with an agreement on both sides as to what the facts were. today in a world where people fundamentally disagree about whether covid numbers are going up or down, and whether the russians were supporting trump and how many people are actually in an inauguration crowd. as a journalist, how do you see the nation returning to a setting where we can at least agree on what reality is and have a debate on the policies we need to address?

they argued for more economic opportunity and they argued for civil service and police reform becausethey recognize police officers were enforcers and enforcers of machine politicians to simply use the police like a gang leader might use police to deploy them against their political enemies and there was tremendous police corruption and police mentality directed towards european immigrants in the solution to violence in chicago and eire about capone, we all know the stories, and it was tinted glasses and they said they were so wonderful and hard-working, no they were despised by many people in america and the solution was not to lock up as many as them into say how do we rebuild these communities and how do we get exit ramps out of poverty and on ramps into the middle class and the new deal picked up on this the champion of the working class, i use the term in the book, one of the primary mechanisms for arguing against the criminal organization in the mistreatment and further abuse and segregation of irish italian americans were not more police officers or more investments was in fact

assemble marcus and i were out of philadelphia society needing once and john divine who's out of the civil service in the reagan made some comment about the reagan ministration america said actually reagan did not cut domestic spending i got into this argument a much actually cut it was a funny moment for those of you seem don divine on television. he is a very animated person at a very adamant person makers marcus is as well, and it was a pretty robust argument and very exciting one to be standing next to (laughter) reagan's image was to a great degree self-made he was very aware of his legacy and sought to frame narratives about his presidency. during his presidency, the cold war united conservatives in a sort of fusion east way. some of you may recall the fusionist project as it was outlined by frank meyer,. the united people neoconservatives evangelicals came together because of a common enemy but after the cold war, we sort of lost that fusionism, so conservatives today exist in a fractured state. we have neoconservatives, those who celebrate american greatness, we have libertarians, classica

they could be sadistic, they could be thieves, you couldn't fire them because the civil service unionset cetera. couldn't fire them, and i got the accountability, va accountability. now you look at them, they don't do a good job for our vets, you say, "jim, you're fired. boom. get out." that's the story. we actually terminated over 8,000 people that were not treating our vets well and they were for a long time. it sounds a little bit cold but the truth is they got to treat our vets well, right? so they have to do it, but we got accountability and we got va choice but to achieve the vision that we've been talking about for so long, we must finish the job and drain the washington swamp once and for all and we're doing it. [applause] for years left wing politicians smiled and looked at american workers right in the eye and took advantage of them and lied to them. they took your endorsements, they took your money and they took your votes and they did nothing. then they turned around and inflicted one corrupt betrayal of the american middle class after another, whether it was nafta, tpp, th

they argued for civil service and police reform because they recognize police officers were enforcers of class inequality. or enforcers of politicians to simply use the police like a gang leader might use police to deploy them against their political enemies and foes. that there was tremendous police to corruption. their swanton police brutality directed towards immigrants. so the solution to violence in chicago in an era of al capone, we all know these stories. somehow we romanticize them. they become rose-colored tinted glasses. we look back and say all this people were wonderful and hard-working. no they were just spies they were despised by many people in america. the solution is not to lock up as many of them. the solution was to say how do we rebuild these communities? how do we give them exit ramps out of poverty and on-ramp into the middle class? so the new deal picked up on this. fdr became the champion of the working class. i use the term in the book statistical white flights cleared when the primary mechanisms for arguing against the criminalization and the mistreatment and

that's my only consideration, too. >> and for my clarification, chair, why wouldn't those civil service employees be able to go to another classification? >> clarification is stables in golden gate park, yeah. >> ok. >> chair: do you have an opinion, supervisor walton, on what has been proposed so far? >> i definitely am in support of cutting overtime and academies. i think that you and i want t al of the academies being on the table. i would be ok with putting one on reserve, which i think is what president yee stated. >> chair: i think president yee said he would cut it by 50% and keep two academies and you are saying cut three academies and put one in reserve and president yee is saying keeping two academies. is that correct, president yee? you're on mute, president. >> yes, that's correct. >> chair: ok. and i'm hearing from you -- are you in agreement cutting 50% of the overtime and putting 25 of that 50% on reserve? >> i would be in agreement in it was something that the entire committee was ok just half of overtime budget. >> chair: thank you very much. supervisor mandelman. >> ca