if you look at growth based on when she was first lady under the clinton administration, we had the greatest economic expansion. stuart: she was-- >> in the history of our country. stuart: she was more the last eight years. >> and the greatest economy of our time in the united states was in the clinton administration, you should jump on the that band wagon quick and in a hurry, my friend. stuart: by golly, congressman,

but yes, she has a history with the clinton -- the bill clinton administration. she worked in the obama treasury department. and her husband is a state department official. so there's a clear connection here between brainard and the democratic party and the clintons in particular. but the tradition has been that the fed maintains it's above politics, it's not in that partisan system at all, the fed simply does technocratic fed-type things for nonpartisan reasons. and this, critics will say, erodes that just a little bit. >> it does come though at a time when the bernanke fed and also this fed, under ms. yellen, has been much more open than fed governing bodies of the past. >> yes, absolutely. in a way this is a victory for transparency. these contributions are in the federal election commission records, they're there for anybody to see. nobody's hiding anything here with this one. so there are those who support brainard's position and say, if she's a democrat, why shouldn't she be a democrat and act like democrats do in washington? so that's the counter argument t

during the clinton administration more than 60 judicial nominees were bottled up and never received votes. of course, as indicated by my distinguished friend, the republican leader, during that time democrats are complaining about what was going on, saying there should have been hearings in the senate, and even came to the floor and the majority leader said, let's have some votes. let's have some votes on these people. mr. president, we never said we would break the rules to change rules. to change the rules in the senate cannot be done by a simple majority. it can only be done if there is extended debate or 67 votes. say that thell statements made by republican leaders are wrong about the votes, and we were disturbed that they were not votes. we never ever suggested that rules should be broken. in addition to the so-called "pocket filibusters" called them when everyone, the 69 nominations, never made it out of the russell building, the judiciary committee. in addition to those engageances, republicans in explicit filibusters on the floor against a number of clinton judges when they did g

acknowledged some of the consequences of the 1994 crime bill passed during the bill clinton administration lot of the three strikes and you're out, a lot of the overcriminallization of none violent actions, you know, led to a situation which we now mustards. nicole: hillary clinton added that the legislation including assault weapon ban and put more police on the street. lauren: vice president joe biden is not endorsing a candidate in the 2016 race for the white house with an interview with mike, he said the u.s. is ready for a women president. listen to this. >> would you like to see elect a women. >> i would like to see elect a women. >> no, no, that's all right. i would like to see. i'm not getting into that. >> i would like to ask one more question -- >> the president and i are not going to endorse because let the party decide. lauren: what you heard is an aid that's it before he went to elaborate on why he won't make an endorsement in the presidential race. another aid did clarify that the verbal cue, that's it that you heard, that was just aimed at keeping biden on schedule. nicole:

mind, in 2008 when the recession hit the banking policies were policies protected by the clinton administrationnd hillary clinton. >> that is a serious allegation. i think hillary clinton has apologized for making that remark. >> she says she regretted using that term thmpt idea that hillary clinton is racist is one of the most absurd things i have heard. this is a woman who has committed her public life, her public career to fighting systemic racism whether when working for the children's defense fund, when she worked as u.s. senator, as first lady. this idea is just ridiculous. also, i mean, the votes that she has garnered, hillary clinton is the one who has built a broad coalition of support across the country. african-american, hispanic women. so i think the attack is just ridiculous. >> let me insert this and i want to post this question to you. both clintons were here in new york. they talked about that crime bill. it seems they are a little worried about that. >> sure. it is a damming charge. protesters coming out you have to have a response. there is the bill clinton response where he g

so they're contracts are secure so they're not targeted by the clinton administration. this, she was also getting money from these very same entities while she was secretary of state through speaking fees to her husband which were going into their personal accounts. >> we said this is corruption. my question is why did the obama administration allow this? she was secretary of state. her husband continues to travel the world getting money from foreign interests. why did they allow that? >> that's a great question. the ones they did put, wasn't a restriction. it was transparency. the clintons didn't comply with that. if you're a foreign corporation or foreign financer and you want to have access to a leader, you can't contribute to their political campaign or the super pac but you can pay their spouse or themselves an overinflated speaking fee and that gives you access to lobbyist could get you. >> here's what i don't get is the motive. how much money do you need? they've made hundreds of millions of dollars doing this. they're greedy, they're money worshippers. why else

i negotiated the agreement with the clinton administration, we had a balanced budget for the first time since man walked on the moon. we pay down half $1 trillion of the national debt, cut down capital gains, and the economy was growing like crazy, and there was no discussion of income inequality, or the problem of no white -- rising wages, because the country used a formula to cut taxes, and strengthen the government, which give confidence to job creators in this country. [applause] and then i left washington. i went to the private sector, to learn about how it really works. and then i decided i needed to run for governor. and i got elected at exactly the right time. because our state could not get much worse. hold, most8 billion of our operating budget was in the hole. we lost 350,000 jobs. the state was polarized, and had lost hope. regulations, that do not rate the backs of small businesses are what i promoted. incentives to grow, and a path to the balanced budget. we went from a range of 50,000 lost jobs, to a gain of almost 420,000 new jobs. by $5 billion, more than any governor i

they could have done that maybe they didn't do, but i had a front row seat both with the clinton administration and the obama administration and i know how hard they work and i know how much they got accomplished when they had a democratic congress. if you look at the first two years of my husband's administration, you look at the first two years of president obama's administration and then what happened? they pushed through a lot of changes. they pushed through regulation on guns. they pushed through the affordable care act. they pushed through a lot. the deficit reduction plan. the dodd frank regulations. what happened? democrats didn't show up in the mid-term elections. here's how i want to change the democratic party. i want to be absolutely clear that when we have a democratic president, we have to support that democratic president and we have to show up in mid-term elections and we have to elect governors and state officials and county officials because that's how you have the kind of broad-based political campaign and the momentum you need to get change at all levels. right now majority

but i had a front row seat both with the clinton administration and the obama administration.nd i know how hard they worked and i know how much they got accomplished when they had a democratic congress. if you look at the first two years of my husband's administration, you lock at the first two years of president obama's administration, and then what happened? th they pushed through a lot of changes, pushed through regulation on guns, the affordable care act, they pushed through a lot, the dodd-frank regulations. what happened? democrats didn't show up in the med term elections. here's how i want to change the democratic party. i want to be absolutely clear that when we have a democratic president we have to support that democratic president and we have to show up in midterm elections and we have to elect governors and state legislators and county officials because that's how you have the kind of broad based political campaign and the momentum you need to get change at all levels. right now the majority of states are run by republican governors and we see what they're doing on

pleasure ofstinct working with him in government during the clinton administration. when he was the assistant secretary of state for democracy and human rights. there were challenges on virtually every continent on the's issues. harold was not just a thought just somebodyt who brings the discipline of his profession to diplomacy, but he was very much an activist and a superb the mat. superb diplomat. making sure that human rights is a key part of american foreign-policy agenda has not always been an easy task and an edc -- and an easy challenge. when the clinton administration ended, my late wife and i ended up in new haven, connecticut. nobody was more helpful, hospitable, and a better mentor during the academic year than what we spent at yale. i will always be grateful to him and his wife and family for taking care of us then. he has beennow active again in government, in the state department. he has returned to yale where he is a professor of international law. hard to imagine somebody more suitable to the topic today and also to the time we are living in. after h

. >> interestingly, the clinton administration has been put on trial here by bernie. whether it's free trade or welfare reform, you go down a lot of -- and bill clinton was in town yesterday and defended -- felt he needed to defend his administration, the things they did. and hillary's been pulled so far to the left, she's actually where bernie is, and attacking her own husband's legacy. and that's gonna be a problem for them in the fall. >> well, and the question of protest. one of these incidents where bill clinton was defending his administration, he wound up in a very sharp exchange with black lives matter protestors. and hillary, bernie, and the rest have gone in with them. bill clinton stands astride by himself, crying, "no! the '90s were not terrible. >> that's the afterburn. >> there were many things that we had to do. and it'll be interesting to see whether that generates any kind of protestors. will there be black lives matter, anti-wall street, occupy types. >> it'll be similar to the occupy movement. >> how prominent will they be in philadelphia during the

i think both of those numbers are going to get worse under the clinton administration. >> and bruce, all of those failed promises we had with obama stimulus plan, i remember poor joe biden making all these promises. well, we'll have this many unemployed. wee going to reduce the unemployment, et cetera. those promises were not fulfilled by that huge spending program that president obama had. >> well, i think you know, one of things with her, it's a conversation starter. i think when she's talking -- >> well, it started this conversation. >> which is better than what the internet is doing in counting delegates. >> if she's going to reduce the deficit. i think that's a good thing. trump's plan would explode the deficit and i think she needs to simplify her pitch. >> are the other people ignoring the problems of the deficit? as the taxes have increased to record levels, our deficits are get i getting bigger, too, so we're going in the wrong direction both sides. >> politicians like hillary clinton and some of the republicans make a huge mistake when they assume this sort of static analys

as the clinton administration did for the north koreans. you may recall, madam speaker, the north koreans struck a deal with wendy sherman who helped out on the iranian deal and president clinton -- and i know this is a shorthand rendition but basically in effect saying, hey, north korea, if you will just sign saying you won't use what we give you to develop nuclear weapons, we'll build you a nuclear power plant, we'll give you everything you need for nuclear weapons if you'll just sign saying we won't develop nuclear weapons and, of course, thinking people knew what would happen and it did happen just as thinking people knew it would you couldn't trust the leader of north korea. they took the materials that were provided for power plant and they developed nuclear weapons, and now this administration has to be constantly concerned about what north korea's doing because they have nuclear weapons and they anted to help iran all because of the deal that wenty sherman helped do back d -- wendy sherman helped do back during the clinton administr

they hope that a new administration, perhaps the hillry clinton administration may be a little bit morealanced in their views than the obama administration has been. but i think they're also feeling the squeeze. because both from the u.s. and from europe the policies that they've had, some of their past support for unsavory characters, their justice system as you mentioned earlier, their views towards women had really made them an outliar. and i think that if they wish to become the leader in the region, they're going to need to make some of these changes happen on a social level and not just on an energy policy level. >> all right, david rothkopf. thank you so much for being here. >> my pleasure. 7 >>/this is pbs newshour /weekend, sunday >> thompson: tuesday marks 30 years since the world's worst nuclear power plant disaster, the explosion at chernobyl, in ukraine; on april 26, 1986. the accident released an estimated ten tons of radioactive particles into the atmosphere that spread across the former soviet union and europe. since then, it turns out, people who remained in the region

peter aleman was in the clinton a administration and he broke over this question of the so-called welfareeform. yes or no devastating book. robert rice, he is supporting bernie sanders. he saw the inside of clinton trained elation a domestic policies, total caving in to wall street and this income disparity -- which bernie sanders was warning about you said in the 1970's, has become an uglier reality now. you're saying we should trust the very people who open the door to wall street to now solve the problem. i think it is nonsense. let me say something about israel as a jewish person, by the way, i'm so proud of the first jewish candidate that has a chance of being president has unmasked this terrible policy of ignoring the human rights of palestinians, their aspiration, and backing netanyahu, a guy who just doesn't even believe in any serious way in the two state solution -- by the way, hillary .entioned mohamed morsi she said, i talked to him. why does it she mentioned that he is in jail facing death? the first elected president -- person to run egypt is in joe facing debt and hillary c

does he want a position in the clinton administration? to see butis harder that's the signs we're all watching for in the next couple of weeks. whether the california race, does he fight hard there? a unity momente for them? what does that look like? and president obama, the white house, has made it clear that they will not get into the race until senator sanders is completely out. the clinton campaign wants to get the president in the race to have thatager happen as soon as possible. john: if hillary clinton reads she'ss you two do and ready to move on to the general election, she has changed her focus a little bit. today she's also hired staffers for the general election in new hampshire, florida, all purple states. how is she turning to the general election? did it first and foremost by going back to her break andaking a planning on how to take on donald trump and i'm told that ae's fine with this period of month of bernie sanders staying in the race. it gives her some time and space. nearly asspending much money as he planned in india

i had the distinct pleasure of working with him in government during the clinton administration, when he was the assistant secretary of state for democracy and human rights. and as we all remember from the 1990, there were challenges on virtually every continent on these issues. and harold was not just a thought leader, not just somebody who brings the discipline of his profession to diplomacy but he was very much an activist and a superb diplomat. and i might add, his diplomatic skills were often evidenced inside the united states government, because making sure that human rights and democracy is a key part of the american foreign policy agenda has not always been an easy task and an easy challenge, and he was more than up to it. when the clinton administration ended, my late wife and i went up to the groves of academe in new haven, connecticut, and nobody was more helpful it, hospitable, and a better mentor to me during the academic year that we spent at yale than harold. and i will always be grateful to him and to his wife and to his family for taking care of us then. and, as you a

never actually existed, you know, they have this idea that somehow the first six years of the clinton administration were so perfect from the standpoint of their own disparate agendas. democrats see in them the kind of great hope for their side. republicans remember him as somebody who was not quite as bad as obama. you know, they could work with him. but the fact is at the time they both were disappointed by clinton in their own ways too, right? >> yeah, and the hate that was directed at clinton. >> specifically. >> specifically, and in the most vicious terms and ending up with, unbelievably, impeachment. >> yeah. >> is conveniently forgotten. >> right. >> i think the passions of that time have faded. >> yeah. >> and clinton is now regarded with this rosy retrospective glow. >> yeah. >> i think it will take a lot less time for that to happen to obama. >> you think so? >> but we always miss them when they're gone, but we don't love them --. >> when they're actually here, right. we wait too long to tell them. so speaking of clintons, forget him about him, let's talk about her. had she been president,

carrying around little sheets of paper, color photocopies, showing charts of growth during the clinton administration. clinton isg, what running for president here? i think that has accentuated itself. we wrote a story where we quoted charlie wrangle from harlem, saying, why is he talking so much about himself? i think that is your occupational hazard dealing with bill clinton. alex b.: amazing thing to say. i think that in some ways, if you think back to the reaction of bill clinton's outburst, it is almost priced in that this guy is going to wander off the reservation, get into fights with protesters. his confrontation with black lives matter was so much worse than that famous, this whole thing is the biggest fairy tale i've ever seen, episode in 2008. it was such a shock that this guy was undermining this. right.: i think you are that he is priced into a certain degree. he has been more disciplined. david: on this issue of sanders reaching into the black community, he reached out for a an adevel aide to produce for him in the closing days of this new york primary to try and reach the african-ameri

he would carry around little barts of paper showing charts of growth during the clinton administration. i am thinking, what -- which clinton is running for president ? and i think that has accentuated itself over the past week. with charlieory wrangle saying, how -- why is he talking so much about himself? that is an occupational hazard with bill clinton. think in some ways, if you think back to the reaction to bill clinton's outburst this year versus 2008, it is almost priced in now that this guy will wander off the reservation or say things that he should not say. his confrontation with the black the black lives matter protester is so much worse than the biggest fairytale i have ever seen thing. >> i think you're right that it is priced into a certain degree. but he has been more disciplined. >> on this issue of sanders reaching into the black community, he reached out for a adh-level aide to produce an for him in the closing days of the new york are married to try and reach the african-american votes. i want you to take a look at that. >> people of color have a deeply vested interes

what about him maybe getting a spot in a clinton administration. >> we're still looking at win the nomination. we think that we can do that and we're going to stand behind bernie all the way. >> i want to ask you finally though about some of the problems at the polls for bernie supporters specifically. there were 125,000 people, by some counts, who were purged from some of the polls. do you think that impacted sanders' campaign and will be a problem moving forward? >> caller: he's very, very concerned and so are the rest of us about these stories. disenfranchising people, especially in an important primary in new york is unkaungsinable. it's already a closed primary, so it favors the establishment a little bit more. when these kinds of things happen, it's worse. and i think everybody should be concerned about those kinds of things going on. everybody should worry that we have a system where it's one person, one vote, so they can really get a candidate that represents the people. >> what are you going to do about it? >> as far as i know, the campaign is going to look into the stories. even the

. >> clinton of course joined the obama administration as secretary of state and the rest, as they say history. so will that kumbaya repeat itself in the clinton/sanders showdown? we will ask sanders' campaign manager next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ that's life. you diet. you exercise. and if you still need help lowering your blood sugar... ...this isardiance. along with diet and exercise... jardiance works around the clock... to lower blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes. this can help you lower blood sugar and a1c. and although it's not for weight loss or lowering systolic blood pressure, jardiance could help with both. jardiance can cause serious side effects including dehydration. this may cause you to feel dizzy, faint, or lightheaded, or weak upon standing. ketoacidosis is a serious side effect that can be life-threatening. symptoms include nausea, vomiting, stomach pain, tiredness, and trouble breathing. stop taking jardiance and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms symptoms of an allergic reaction include rash, swelling, and difficulty breathing or swallowing. do not take jardi

as you know, i worked for the clinton administration. e obama mall-hillary clinton race. and even when barack obama was in a race against her, they accused barack obama of being sexist and being too aggressive towards her. >> there is a lot of accusations. because i remember that the obama administration accused bill clinton of being a racist in south carolina. >> that's right. >> sort of hard to keep track of who is playing what card and who is saying what nasty thing. this race is very unique in the sense that you have a woman who is going to be the no many knee. and have you donald trump who is going to be the republican nominee. donald doesn't care about what your gender is or what your race is. he wants to win. and you cannot whine and complain when you get into a race where the stakes are this high. >> tactically, we pick a woman or man for vice president? we tactically pick the woman? >> i think he is going to choose a vice presidential candidate who is extremely experienced and has a lot to bring to the table to help kind of balan

i said let's not dwell on what went on in the clinton administration. let's not dwell on what went on in the four years that president bush has been president. i'msure there's plenty of blame to go around . as we look back, i'm not sure and i'm difficult to say this but i say it. i'm not sure either was handled properly. i know it wasn't right to simply bury 69 nominations and in hindsight, maybe we could have done these 10 a little differently. but the american people are tired of what we are doing. tired of this constant fighting going on. what's going to take place? if this continues? we will have a vote sometime next week mark it will be a close vote of course as we only need sixrepublicans . the presiding officer was formerly chairman of the appropriations committee, it's very difficult at best to get appropriations bills passed. most everything around here is done by unanimous consent. things won't work as well as they could have. we need to avoid this. we're all legislators.but sadly now, the president of the united states has joined the fray and

. >> i have not be on this set with doreen genzler since the clinton administration and with vance since the reagan administran. >> i think so. >> glad to have you with us. >> it's great to see you. >> it's good to see you too. >> we have the gray sky. it is cloudy and cool. i'm not saying it is dreary. but i'm saying it is dismal. >> we agree. >> we have the low clouds with us and the gray sky. this storm team 4 radar showing the storms passing well south of washington. it does continue to pull well away from the metro area. temperatures are still in the mid 50s. hasn't budged at all. if you want to get some exercise, head on out. we'll be hovering in the mid 50s just under a cloudy sky. we'll stay dry. looking at the hour-by-hour new timing coming, in some of these showers south. tomorrow morning, that's when we'll see some showers moving in. by about 5:00 in the morning, we'll see showers getting closer to washington. 8:00 a.m., right into the metro area. off and on showers into the afternoon. a chance of sprinkles 7:00 to 8:00 at the bus stop. by 9:00 a.m., into the mid 50s. during t

to rattle hillary clinton and he wants to remind kind of some of that ugly chapters of the clinton administration and remind folks that when bill clinton was president it was complicated. they're teasing more material. they got more dirt. let's watch. >> if they want to go after dom donald trump then he will bring up that topic. it's a lot to discuss that was not brought out into the public. >> i'm not sure what she's talking about. >> it's diversion. it's stirring up these unfounded allegations. what's happening here is he's trying to close the deal. he needs to win in indiana. it gets him to victory because look where he was. he's in indiana. bullets dripped in pig's blood. he knows the media will raise a fire storm. >> like he says america's first. i think he knows enough of history to know what that means. it means he was an appeaser. >> you're right when you say he knows what he's doing. that trump stumbles into gaffes. knees the buttons he's pressing. >> he said beating hillary clinton would be easier than beating opponents in the primary. >> when i can focus on hillary, crooked hillary, sh

i said let's not dwell on what went on in the clinton administration. let's not dwell what went on in the four years that president bush has been president. i am sure there's plenty of blame to go around as we look back i'm not sure that -- and it's difficult to say this but i say it. i'm not sure that either was handled properly. i know it wasn't right to simply bury 69 nominations. and in hindsight maybe we could have done these ten a little differently. but the american people are tired of what we're doing. tired of the constant fighting going on. if ts going to take place this continues? we'll have a vote sometime next week. it will be a close vote of course because we only need six republicans. the presiding officer was formerly chairman of the powerful appropriations ke. it's very difficult at best to get the appropriations bills past. most everything is done around here by unanimous consent. we need to avoid this. but sadly now it want of the united states has joined the fray and become the latest to rewrite the constitution and to reinvent reali

during the clinton administration more than 60 judicial nominees were bottled up and never received votes. of course, as indicated by my distinguished friend, the republican leader, during that time democrats are complaining about what was going on, saying there should have been hearings in the senate, and even came to the floor and the majority leader said, let's have some votes. let's have some votes on these people. mr. president, we never said we would break the rules to change rules. to change the rules in the senate cannot be done by a simple majority. it can only be done if there is extended debate or 67 votes. i do not at all say that the statements made by republican leaders are wrong about the votes, and we were disturbed that they were not votes. we never ever suggested that rules should be broken. in addition to the so-called "pocket filibusters" called them when everyone, the 69 nominations, never made it out of the russell building, the judiciary committee. in addition to those performances, republicans engage in explicit filibusters on the floor against a number of clinton

. >> evidence to suggest that the clinton administration or secretary clinton thought that they were particularly onerous parts of the crime bill. nor sanders was on the floor of the house railing against the mass incarceration provision. when someone uses the term super predators tells us what we need to know about the view of the crime bill and those onerous incarcerations. >> the line of attack from weave will it work for the sanders' campaign as they try to make up a gap right now in the delegates and the voting that they need? >> well the issue of criminal reform is cared most about in the african-american community, but wider community as well. that community seems really, really tight with hillary clinton in the democratic primaries. bernie sanders voted for the crime bill and a quote floating around he wanted to raise the penalties on people using powder cocaine to match those that were more onerous in using crack cocaine. he wanted equality, not bringing down the penalties leading to mass incarceration. i think it's a hard issue and substance from the gain, a big leg up on h

that point, only administration that ted cruz can help usher in at-this-point is a hillary clinton administrationi don't think that is what anyone wants right now. charles: a house divided against itself cannot stand, ted cruz saying that donald trump not yet official, he can't get 1237 either. why not duke it out. >> i think gina made a lot of great points, but cruz and kasich have the right to stay in if they want, to they are playing by rules set for many years. charles: but i'll switch to kasich, is he putting ego ahead of party or people. i know he thinks after 15 rounds of voting someone will say, hey, what about that guy in the corner? >> i think so, these are rules that were set, are they fair or not? i think that is a question that you ask after the nomination process, i don't think that you can change them midway through, we're going through a interesting time in america, millennials, young people, they are -- society is more open, these processes that used to be done in smoke filled rooms, i think going in order republican party needs to look at nomination contest, and say how do we ch

anything the clinton d the administration needed to move quickly away from. even against wishes of some of the other members of the administration like condy rice. there was also now a growing to play down the threat posed by terrorism. when it's coming from clinton administration officials were unheeded or cast aside. they had other priorities. by contrast a more effective strategy, need look no further than the bush family. george h.w. bush announced a pause in u.s.-soviet relations and believed it was necessary to take a step back and reflect on the tactics and the policies between the u.s. and soviet union, but the assumptions towards the soviet union and whether they could trust in the leader and whether or not the strategy and so forth and so on. many historians look back on this as a wise decision that helped calibrate the priorities moving forward. gave them great confidence to not involve themselves in the revolutions that swept across in 1989 and let them really sort of understand and reflect on the goals they wanted to achieve and the best way get

this surrogate speaking ahead of time, he did discuss on stage his ties to the clinton administration, his wife, lisaling, journalist, rescued in part by bill clinton when she was imprisoned in north korea. his family was helped personally by the clintons and he tweeted later on after the event, quote, i'm very sorry for using the term whore to refer to some in congress who are beholding to corporations and be to us. it was insensitive. then he goes on to say quote i have never said anything personal about her. i'm deeply sorry for my poor choice of words. it was truly about congress. but this of course creating a difficult moment for the sanders campaign. jane sanders talked about it with our own an via mitchell earlier today. >> as soon as we heard it immediately we responded. that is not something we expected. as i said, he was a speaker at one event and he was one of many speakers. unfortunately we weren't there to hear it. we would have spoken up immediately. >> they of course were not in attendance when the remarks were made. they came a little bit later. but this is part of an

both bernie sanders voted for it and hillary clinton supported it as part of her husband's administration. why are we talking about the 1994 crime bill? >> because politics, position of the democratic party, ideological position really shifted. also it's a different time, crime is much less of an issue lot of people are behind the 1994 crime bill, look what hillary clinton herself has described at the consequences which was incarceration of so many african americans, especially men. attitudes toward that have changed just as attitudes have changed in significant way since the bill clinton administration on things like defensive marriage act. there was series of things moderate centrist democratic president did in the 1990s that don't look -- that now are controversial in new ways when you look at the party in 2016. >> dickerson: clarence, one of the things that bernie sanders said is, he criticized bill clinton for defending has wife for using the term, super predator, in the context of this debate in the 1909s. so, he said basically racist racist term, is that right? >> no. quite the opp