the kind of semi-dictator of hungary came over to speak at cpac in dallas a couple years ago.out what he had done in hungary within a year of his second election, his reelection. he had basically destroyed the independent media. people post on facebook against him and they go to jail. i am very concerned that that is the direction we are heading now and you can get people like cash patel, a trump surrogate saying we are coming for you in the media. i am very concerned that jimmy carter's essential prophecy is coming true. we will have a government for the very rich. >> republicans and donald trump in particular showed a lot of gains this election including among people across demographic groups seeing gains with latino voters and white women. how do you explain some of those gains. guest: i used to work in advertising. 40 years ago. i owned an advertising agency in atlanta and a few beat people over the head with a message often enough with enough money and enough saturation, you can largely convince them of anything. kamala harris never once mentioned trans people during the

he has hosted cpac events and was the keynote speaker at a cpac conference in texas two years ago.s an authoritarian love fest that goes both ways. donald trump, tucker carlson, who even hosted a week of shows from hungary before he got fired from fox, and vice president-elect j.d. vance are just a few on the american right who have sung orban's praises. >> let me say about world leaders. viktor orban, one of the most respected man, a strong man, a stuff person, smart, prime minister of hungary. >> he thinks families are more important than banks. he believes countries need borders. for saying these things outloud orban has been vilified. >> i am not endorsing every thing. on the university principle, the idea that taxpayers should have some influence in how their money is spent at these universities is a totally reasonable thing and he think he made smart decisions we can learn from in the united states. >> the reality is that victor orkin's hungary is very much a cautionary tale for americans as we face donald trump in the white house a second time. for how we can survive and res

viktor orban, the kind of semi dictator of hungary, even came over to speak at cpac in dallas a couple years ago, two years ago, and, you know, laid out what he had done in hungary within a year of his second election, his re-election. he had basically destroyed all the independent media. i mean people post on facebook against him and they go to jail. i'm very concerned about that's the direction we're heading now when you get people like kash patel who, you know, have trump surrogates saying we're coming for you in the media. i'm very concerned that jimmy carter's prophecy is coming true. we're going to have a government of, by and for the very rich. >> yet republicans and donald trump in particular, showed a lot of gain in this election including among people across demographic groups. he gained with latino voters and with white women. what -- how do you explain some of those gains? >> you know, i used to work in advertising 40 years ago. i owned an advertising agency in atlanta. and if you beat people over the head with a message often enough, with enough money and enough saturation

. >> todd: did atacms cpac?carley: sure did. >> todd: american star in pennsylvania what is now known as the "trump dance" after scoring two goals the u.s. advances to the nation's league finals set to be played next march in l.a. carley, this is sweeping the sports landscape. >> sweeping. >> todd: the question will this be employed once wedding season starts, prom season, formal season. these are the questions we need answers to. >> carley: we have to get the cameras and the rooms with the celebration for see what the people say. >> todd: military assets to carry out my grant will make my current crisis cracked down >> carley: they will not cooperate given at the crisis on their doorstep. a sheriff will tell us why others need to step up and work with trump. that is next. were you worried the wedding would be too much? nahhhh... (inner monologue) another destination wedding?? why can't they use my backyard!! with empower, we get all of our financial questions answered. so we don't have to worry. empower. what's

considering kash patel to lead the fbi and i want you to take a listen to what kash patel had to say at cpac, a conservative gathering, earlier this year. >> we are blessed by god to have donald trump be a juggernaut of justice, to be a leader and our continued worrier in the arena. i am going on a government -- who is coming with me? >> he would first have to fire christopher wray and what you think about this? >> the fbi is scared of him and he is there to shake things up. in fact, when you look at dc insiders, they don't want him and that's actually sellable to the american people especially when you look at the election and what we saw with the popular vote. the american people are sick and tired of the sum of two that joe biden and merrick garland organized the government against parents and school boards and calling them terrorists and when after catholics calling them pro-life and they open ice the witchhunts against donald trump and democrats ran on locking up donald trump and putting him in jail. edit remember hearing any handwringing in the media when that was going on. i think he

steve was in the white house at that point and he was, i think, interviewed on stage at cpac by reinces on stage with him. i think priebus was talking to bannon and bannon talked the priorities in trump term. he talked about nationalism in terms of foreign policy and deconstruction of the administrative state. the one thing, steve is not only saying this outloud for ever, through that -- from the moment they walked in the doors in january of 2017 to now when he was out -- when trump was out of office. he also is someone who is unlike donald trump, an extraordinarily well read and sophisticated thinker. when i say sophisticated, i don't want anything to think i think he is a good thing in terms of some of these thoughts. he is someone who has thought a lot about this stuff. he read his lennon. that's what this is. it's a leninist project. and i think to your point, nicolle, there are a lot of things going on with these. some directed at the media. that's the frame you were putting on it, which it to create chaos in terms of how we cover it. it's willing really importantly these are test

trump was at cpac before garland was sworn in, it may be running, that could've ended because every republicanld know, he will be charged soon. they would note the supreme court is not delaying things. he will be convicted felon and may be in jail and embolden other republicans, maybe just maybe they push him away. what merrick garland did, he did not appoint special counsel to investigate for almost two years, jack smith. trump is running. what does that do, it normalized trump for two years. we are out there saying that trump attended a two, incited a terrorist attack. everyone else is going, why isn't he charged? it is two years later, if it is that serious. merrick garland undermined all of our oral arguments and democratic members of congress wanted to look forward, in covid and focus on that. i kept taking them, call for prosecuting donald trump for attempting coup, it is not partisan, it is patriotism. he attempted a coup, incited a terrorist attack and to be back in the white house, destroys everything this country should stand for, the rule of law, people do that, how can he be on the

what he said at cpac conference earlier this year, he said i'm going to end it in 48 hours.t phone call is to president putin and say to putin, unless you go to the negotiating table, i'm going to give ukraine all the weapons it needs and then pick up the phone and talk to zelensky and say unless you go to the negotiating table, i'm not going to give you any weapons, hang up. he's talked about forever a solution to get them to the negotiating table and he's not been specific about what a deal would look like. but to get them to stop the fighting and stop the killing. and that's donald trump. peace through strength and not peace through let's go to war. it's peace through strength and economic strength and military strength, sure. diplomatic strength and he's one of the greatest negotiators in business history. he's a deal guy. he'll do deals everywhere. stuart: would you like to go back to work in tram's state department? >> maybe not the state department, but we'll see. i was part of the reagan revolution and part of trump 1.0. there's a lot of unfinished business on the pa

. >> tell us about tim homan, we played a clip from cpac talking about the family separation policy, defending it, and he would love to do it again, love may be a strong word, who is this guy and what do you expect, tom, excuse me, him to be in charge of? >> well, he will have the unique position of border czar. ken cuccinelli had that job. it's unclear how much power that position would have yielded because that was toward the end of the first trump administration. look, he is larger than life force when it comes to trump doctrine on immigration. he has been working closely with a group called border 911, they hold rallies, town halls, i have seen them speak to small towns of people along the border, telling them there are terrorists and criminals about to come into their backyard. he does not hold back. he's unapologetic, he's brash. he uses many four letter wars. and when it comes to zero tolerance, he was the acting ice director at that point. it was border control that did the separation. he seems to be defending that policy, saying that, look, it's because they broke the law, h

thank you, politico, and new this year, cpac, our media partners. president of kosovo is here, welcome back. and the speaker of ukraine's parliament, welcome. [applause] in the ukrainian system, the speaker is the number two official in the government after president zelenskyy. speaker, we are proud to have you. thank you for everything you are doing to protect all of us from russia's aggression. want to take a moment to thank my team, micah, spencer, kimberly, katya, dan, laura, thank you. in the chair of our board of directors, professor jenna stein, u.s. ambassador mark lipper. janice, mark, thank you for your leadership. the president of croatia. dr. rubio of mexico. and our newest board member just this morning appointed to our board from the people's republic of northern california. thank you, each of you, for your wisdom and guidance and support. [laughter] we have the best board of directors. we also have the best team who put this weekend on. please thank them when you have a chance. [applause] thank you, minister blair. the largest delegat

here's what gaetz said at the last two cpac conferences. >> in congress i'm often excoriated, smearedrided for exposing a corrupt system that has been weaponized against we, the people. and the media isn't on our side either. the matt gaetz chaos agenda. that was the headline from the liberal ""new yorker" magazine." we either get this government back on our side or we defund, abolishing the fbi, cdc, atf -- [cheers and applause] doj, every last one of 'em if hay do not come to heel. >> i always thought matt gaetz was in the clown car, so i'm surprised he'd be part of the starting lineup. >> gaetz is controversial because of personal allegations that the biden justice department hung over his head but never prosecuted. we expect the democrats to turn him like trash and turn the his hearing into the salem witch trials. >> he is going to to use gaetz as a kind of revenge. >> he goes for the jugular politically, but it's wrong to dismiss if him as a just a political firebrand. >> complete and utter horror. matt 2008 is incredibly ill of suited for -- ill-suited for this position. >> he's

but i mean, i think back to early parts of last year, i was at cpac right after the big house speaker fight where gates made the speech about the fbi and atf coming to heel. and i think back from then to now, and his wing of the party has won i mean, gaetz marjorie taylor greene, like, whoever you want to call it, who kind of made that play against the establishment congressional republicans who doubled down with donald trump at the time when some other people kind of waffled on him initially. they are being rewarded in this moment. and i think for a lot of those republican senators they are torn between that kind of personal dislike and understanding of matt gaetz and the reality see a mandate from donald trump's electoral map on last tuesday. and so i just think it's going to be a push and pull. but i don't think it's the same type of fights we saw between these wings of the party eight years ago, because there's a sense now that i think donald trump and the gaetz wing is ascendant. yeah, no question about it. but there's a question about, as julie mentioned about this ethics invest

it has been led by cpac. host: what do you think happened in the middle east with u.s.ons donald trump. i know mike huckabee is cap to be the representative to israel. caller: you argosy war with iran in the russia take part of ukraine. it is going to be seeing nato practically gone. another thing biden tried to do is fight that war. he should have just come out and told the american people that you could do it. you can't fight when the other party is against you over here. he got himself into trouble and when you look at the world before the election, it was just chaos and the democrats, 10 million people less voted for biden than the last time which should have been the other way around. that should tell you something. host: this is james in cleveland, ohio, a line for democrats. caller: i am calling in to make a particular,. during the trump inaugural address located life was spared by god and basically that god has sent here as moses to lead the people of the darkness. in particular, is that trump has the darkness is to get my head around what type of god would bear

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he spoke at cpac. he is a little partisan figure in his fox news part so let's talk about the possibility that this might be the pick that republicans do have some questions about. republicans is in the national likely have a rubber stamp for most of trump's nominations but this one might be different. how do you see it play out? >> yeah, historically, we have seen congress give a lot of deference to presidents when it comes to confirming their cabinet. there have been some blowout and dramatic fights, though. i think pete hegseth could be that rare fight for senate republicans, but as we have talked about, the past few months, the lack of centers in senate is perhaps troubling for any sort of pushback like hegseth who as you noted has 20 years of service in the military, two bronze stars, but has zero experience when it comes to actually and a half gat -- navigating a bureaucracy or service department and overseeing the world's most powerful and largest military. i think that this is going to be the f

but mike pompeo, yes, he was briefly critical of trump at a cpac appearance, but otherwise was seen as a loyal and productive member of his administration. what does it tell you that pompeo and someone with pompeo's world view isn't going to be part of the next administration? >> i think it's a very, very important sign. you know, for most of the campaign, a shorthand way of asking what this administration would be like was to say, would it be a jd vance administration, or would it be a mike pompeo foreign policy? this public humiliation in the sense of secretary pompeo. how often do you issue a statement saying you're not going to hire people? this was done very, very clearly to make a point. the point was, the internationalists, reagan-strong policy approach is not coming. i saw secretary pompeo in kyiv a month ago, and he was very, very clear. he said it was important that the good guys are seen to win. that view that it was important for american interests and american strength that ukraine be seen to win was one side of the debate. i think that side looks like it is now lost. if i

the kind of semi-dictator of hungary came over to speak at cpac in dallas a couple years ago.aid out what he had done in hungary within a year of his second election, his reelection. he had basically destroyed the independent media. people post on facebook against him and they go to jail. i am very concerned that that is the direction we are heading now and you can get people like cash patel, a trump surrogate saying we are coming for you in the media. i am very concerned that jimmy carter's essential prophecy is coming true. we will have a government for the very rich. >> republicans and donald trump in particular showed a lot of gains this election including among people across demographic groups seeing gains with latino voters and white women. how do you explain some of those gains. guest: i used to work in advertising. 40 years ago. i owned an advertising agency in atlanta and a few beat people over the head with a message often enough with enough money and enough saturation, you can largely convince them of anything. kamala harris never once mentioned trans people during

the kind of semi-dictator of hungary came over to speak at cpac in dallas a couple years ago.d out what he had done in hungary within a year of his second election, his reelection. he had basically destroyed the independent media. people post on facebook against him and they go to jail. i am very concerned that that is the direction we are heading now and you can get people like cash patel, a trump surrogate saying we are coming for you in the media. i am very concerned that jimmy carter's essential prophecy is coming true. we will have a government for the very rich. >> republicans and donald trump in particular showed a lot of gains this election including among people across demographic groups seeing gains with latino voters and white women. how do you explain some of those gains. guest: i used to work in advertising. 40 years ago. i owned an advertising agency in atlanta and a few beat people over the head with a message often enough with enough money and enough saturation, you can largely convince them of anything. kamala harris never once mentioned trans people during th

they did not -- cpac 10 years ago when sarah palin was -- a big go around attacking democrats trying to restrict what he believed. that is the rfk junior policy. so there are a bunch of trump items he ran on and he's assigning people to deal with that are not contiguous with what republicans have run on. we don't quite know how that is going to work. we don't know what role the lawn rfk junior will have. minister and portfolio roles. elon it is not like they are putting it up for confirmation. kennedy will deal with health. but it seems like he's going to have access to the programs -- these things will be happening without republicans in congress having much of a say. eight years ago, there was a lot of republican pulling their color responding to trump things not knowing what they -- what he was going to do. now they have been much more supine, saying he one, i guess we are going with the complete remaking of the american health and sickness system right now. that is very new to them under donald trump. >> the only thing i would add, talking about 2017 and the last time trump contr