the international red cross issued about 150,000 of these red cross documents. and sometimes, you know, in large numbers. for example, in 1947 a whole division of ss members, the whole -- [speaking german] got out of italy with the help of the vatican authorities and these red cross travel documents. so you had 9,000 people at once, former ss members, who used these documents to travel overseas. so you had very large numbers if you include collaborators and ss members and nazis and not just look at convicted war criminals and the most famous perpetrators. the americans knew very early on about the whole system, about war criminals, perpetrators going to italy, spending some time in south tirile acquiring new identities, getting these red cross travel documents with the help of the vatican commission for refugees. all this was already known in '46 by the state department. and the state department informed the red cross and told them, this is a big problem. this is a big issue here because you are or not able to double check the background of the people. there are

it's not a cross. it's a cross beam. don't think of it as an ode to jesus.hink of it as an homage to jesus the canaanite with a relatively unsuccessful carpentry business. [laughter] but you know what, that's fine, that's fine. that's our system. you can file lawsuits. just because there is a lawsuit doesn't mean that it will be successful. everyone is entitled to their day in court. it's not like the atheists are being total dicks about it. >> here's a quote from dave silverman, the president of the american atheists organization. "the world trade center cross has become a christian icon. it has been blessed by so-called holy men and presented as a reminder that their god, who couldn't be bothered to stop the muslim terrorists or prevent 3,000 people from being killed in his name, cared only enough to bestow upon us some rubble that resembles a cross." [audience reacts] >> jon:, well, i can see why he's the president. [laughter] "as president of the american atheist organization, i promise to make sure that everyone, even those who are indifferent to our ca

cross, too. i get to the middle of the intersection, and i find out that the light has changed. >> we need to be able to work and go from one place to the other and have public transportation. the world needs to be open. >> people on disability has the task of addressing all the disability. when we are talk about the sidewalks, ramps, we have very specific issues. for people blind and low vision, we have the issue of knowing where they are and when the cross. it can be hit or miss. >> at hulk and grove, that sound the the automatic -- it helps people cross the street safely. >> now we have a successful pedestrian signal. >> i push the button, i get an audible message letting me know that i need to wait. when it is safe to cross, not only am i going to get an audible indicator, this button is going to vibrate. so it tells me it is safe. there is the driller sound and this trigger is vibrating. i am not relying on anything but the actual light change, the light cycle built into it. >> it brings san

a truck parked in a cross walk forced pedestrians to walk around it. some were crossing against the light. this man nearly got himself hit by a patrol car. the officer yelled at him but he slipped into the crowd. members of the southern station police community advisory board will target several areas downtown, first with literature campaigns raising awareness about the safety issues. and then the police will come in after that, and then give some tickets for those who are not paying attention. >> it might take a while to change behavior. >> i know. when you're down here watching these people cross the street, right behind us, as we're here, they're running across the street in front of traffic, i don't know what it takes short of getting hit by a truck. >> yes, all right, well don knapp, in san francisco, thank you. >>> an antioch mother is dead. and her aunt is wounded tonight. police say they were innocent victims. simply in the wrong place at the wrong time when a gun battle erupted in the 8800 block of b street in east oakland at about 1:30 this m

donate to the american red cross.e have a list always of charities and nonprofits that we looked into and approved bys. go there and donate money and that is what is needed. >> it helps to have that information embedded for you so you know your doctors dollars are going where you want it to go. this is the area where we look on new year's eve and a million people fill up time's square. i never have seen it this empty ever. not much moving. a lot of

they hope it means a revival. >>> candles, bloody cross and animal remains in a city park.hey tell us people who live in the area this is not the first time. >>> bernle hikes and kphaoubcasion tower complex. park visitors spot todayed with morning told us they came upon a shocking sight. >> the cross with pure blood there and black handles on each of the ends of the cross and there was a dead -- it was a bird. bird, full of blood, too. >> reporter: to long-time dog walkers they believe this area is part of animal sack tpaoeus. >> they find goat heads and birds, most he birds and rabbits and things like that. the dogs dig them up because they bury them. they wrap them up in clothes or whatever. >> reporter: san francisco recreation and parks officials were alarmed when we first to them this morning and the allegations of animal sacrifice. >> reporter: dog walkers say the unusual activities heard here high in the city but abouts others at risk. >> they got a bit of pwroupbd of the ground to know if it is safe to a dog. -- they sent somebody out to investigate. back to you. >>

it is just naturally cross- disciplinary. and it seems to work best when you are doing something visionary, that no one has found a reason for, can even justified. let's build this ridiculous thing. [laughter] art tends to be like that, anyway. television shows, as it comes, you look for the unknown, you will not find it. but art, yes. art is about the unknown, what we can discover in the us. art is a wonderful breeder of that because they are doing something where they are on the front here sometimes. nobody did this. they go well beyond any industry standard. there is something about the culture that is radically cross- disciplinary. we do those things institutions always say they want to do. we want to get crazy and cross- disciplinary around the shop. let's sit on the floor. let's play foosball. but if you let people loose in an environment -- people will always give to a greater gift. it is just a principle. if a group get together to give a gift to an entire city, it is easy to find people who will give to that. and the

the loss of crossing.avy seals, air force and army pernell, 30 americans in all and 8 afghans killed. their chinook was on its way to help ground forces part of a mission to secure a high saul target when we were shot down. the incident raises questions about whether forces should travel in a helicopter of its kind. >> the fact that we lost this aircraft is not a decision point as to whether we will use this aircraft in the future. >> reporter: the investigation into the crash continues. tamon bradley, abc news, washington. >>> a big note here about helicopters in wartime. most of the crashes in afghanistan and iraq are due to pilot error and mechanical breakdown. it it was still 15% of what it was in vietnam. and on the subject of vietnam a trafficking wen my kailey of the wall is none display in freement. it was created by a florida couple in 996 so veterans and their relatives could experience it. the wall contains the names of more than 58,000 men and women killed in the war same as the original wall c

there's the headlines up next a robust debate guaranteed in cross talk with hospital stay with us. we'll. bring you the latest in some instance or religion some realms lists of those you jerk covered. if. you think you're. lonely and welcome to cross talk i'm peter lavelle the war on drugs has been declared a failure of the us government has spent more than two and a half trillion dollars fighting this campaign over the past forty years but the problem has only gotten worse and more deadly is it now time to seriously consider decriminalization and regulation of some illegal drugs. to keep the. cross talk what went so wrong fighting drugs i'm joined by geoffrey my run in newton is a senior lecturer and director of undergraduate studies in the department of economics at harvard university he's also a senior fellow at the capitol institute and he's also the author of the book drug war crimes the consequences of prohibition and in san diego we cross the acer hutchinson he is a senior partner at the acer hutchinson law group all right gentlemen this is cross talk about means crosstalk r

insane over a pox news interview the network is covering the story of a legal battle over a large cross has been placed at a ground zero memorial in new york and here's a little clip of how they started this interview. why in a why is this an issue you know that this cross was found in the rubble at the world trade center was that constructed as across it just sort of appeared that way and became a real source of inspiration for people who desperately needed it at the time and now the group american atheist is suing to stop the cross from being placed of the nine eleven site the spokesman appeared on fox news and gave this reasoning for the lawsuit it boils down to the constitution and what it really boils down to and what we all have ph the demotion in this issue including mood with up in the area and within new york city that paid for this the emotions can trump war. or it's not simple enough the group is making a valid point there is that whole constitutional issue of separation of church and state then again a lot of people feel inspired by the cross i don't it doesn't bother me to

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a woman was crossing hartford, traveling west. police say she was almost to the other side of the street and in the cross walk when the bus hit her. the woman was pronounced dead at the scene. >> i think just the level of traffic here makes the intersection more dangerous. >> it's upsetting because you use the cross walk to get over safely. >> reporter: the accident comes at a tough time for muni, as the agency finds itself in the middle of a scandal involving almost 50 muni drivers operating city buses and trains without commercial driver licenses. there's no indication that this driver was one of them, but police said they tested him for drugs and alcohol. those test results have not been released. investigators did say, however, the driver appeared to be shaken up by what happened. >> the driver remained on scene, he's cooperating with investigators and as far as policy, he will be tested for any signs of impairment. at this point, there's no reason to believe there is any impairment. >> reporter: police say the bus was on its

for cross party. ok gentlemen i'd like to go to geoffrey first i'm sure i'm sure both of you aware of the global commission on drug policy and it's a pretty dismal report card after spending two point five trillion dollars in fighting what's called the war on drugs jeffrey just what went wrong well give me your priority list what was the what's what needs to be fixed first. well i think the first thing that went wrong was thinking of the whole policy issue as a war and particular war on drugs it doesn't makes that's a metaphor that doesn't make any sense drugs don't have guns drugs don't have tanks they can't fight back so war on drugs is just a non sequitur it's actually a war on people who want to consume drugs and once you think about it in those terms then it's obvious that a bunch of other bad things are going to happen we're going to spend a ton of money we're probably not going to dissuade that many people from wanting to consume drugs we're going to generate a huge black market and in black ma

to cross-talk the role of the i.m.f. today i'm joined by peter chola in london he is a program manager at the bretton woods project also in london we have daniel ben-ami he is a journalist and author and in cambridge we cross to jeffrey frankel he is a professor of capital formation and growth at the harvard kennedy school ok gentlemen this was cross talk that means you can jump in anytime one and i very much encourage it but first let's look at some of the issues surrounding this global financial institution. in the wake of the scandalous departure of its former head dominic strauss kahn the international monetary fund has been faced with the tough task of self-examination as the money lending parthenon seeks to find a new managing director that was regarding its effectiveness and commitment to internationalism have continued unabated and i expect that the next president of the world bank will be an american in the next manager of the i.m.f. will be european broadly construed and that's the same path we've had since tho

the fighters, they have generally been very respectful of the red cross by virtue of the fact that we have spoken with their leadership. we wish we could do more for the wounded. we wish we could do more for the civilian population. >> this is not something that you think maybe -- this is a dangerous environment for your people to be working on all but negotiations are being involved in this kind of scenario, this endangers your workers' lives? >> there was always a danger in working in this kind of war zone. they know we're doing. we are visiting prisoners, supporting hospitals, trying to reunite people separated from the conflict. we are really engaged in the humanitarian work. that is really respected. that allows us to bring supplies to hospitals. we have a team coming from tunisia to go to the hospital. the red cross is respected for exclusive humanitarian work. >> we have this situation where the national transitional council is trying to implement some kind of rule of law but the hospitals are destroyed. there are very few facilities, medical needs. >> i think the needs challen

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below in welcome to cross talk computer all about the war on drugs has been declared a failure of the u.s. government to spend more than two and a half trillion dollars fighting this campaign over the past forty years but the problem has only gotten worse and more deadly is it now time to seriously consider decriminalization and regulation of some illegal drugs. and. to cross-talk what went so wrong fighting drugs i'm joined by geoffrey my run in newton he is a senior lecturer and director of undergraduate studies in the department of economics at harvard university he's also a senior fellow at the catto institute and he's also the author of the book drug war crimes the consequences of prohibition and in san diego we cross the acer hutchinson he is a senior partner at the ayso hutchinson law group all right gentlemen this is cross talk about means crosstalk rules in effect but before it let's have a look at a show report about this forty year old war. a worldwide enterprise worth some four hundred billion dollars a year illegal drug trafficking has become one of the most ferocious luc

the fighters, the belligerence, they have truly been respectful of the red cross by virtue of the factt we have spoken with their leaders these past months. it is a humanitarian exercise for us. we wish we could do more. we wish we could do more for the wounded. we wish we could do more for the civilian population as well. >> you have been watching newsday from the bbc. >> a quick reminder of our main story tonight. the source for colonel gaddafi continues. libyan rebels have offered safe passage out of the country if he renounces his leadership. there is much more on our website. you can follow was on twitter. for now, from both of us, bye- bye. >>>> make sense of international news at bbc.com/news. >> funding was made possible by the freeman foundation of new york, stowe, vt., and honolulu. newman's own foundation. and union bank. ♪ >> union bank has put its global financial strength to work for a wide range of companies. what can we do for you? >> bbc world news was presented by kcet los angeles. by kcet los angeles.

cross is front and center and today they put up another cross for yet another victim. >> it's just really hard to the heart. >> reporter: for the 76, the time this year another cross was put up for a live lost in violence. this surveillance video shows one wounded victim crawling into a liquor store for help. >> it feels like a war zone. i grew up in northerly ireland and i grew up in a war zone and this feels like there's as many people being killed as there was there. >> reporter: the violence comes on the heels of the daylight drive by shooting that killed 3-year-old carlos nava. another toddler was rounded after getting caught in the cross fire this past weekend. >> you feel like you want to shout out to god and ask where he or she is in the midst of this. and last night two taco truck workers got shot even as they handed over cash to at least one armed robber. the man's colleague was terrified to go to work today. we have to work and we have to go out on the street but it is scary out there, she said. >> as we gather to plant this cross -- >> the father and his church members are pra

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now the group american atheist is suing to stop the cross from being placed at the nine eleven site the spokesman appeared on fox news and gave this reasoning for the lawsuit it boils down to the constitution is what it really boils down to and why we all have deep seated emotions on this issue including me who was up in that area and was in new york city the day before this the emotions can trump wall. are it's that simple enough the group is making a valid point there is that whole constitutional issue of separation of church and state then again a lot of people feel inspired by the cross i don't know doesn't bother me to the point of getting really passionate and angry about it apparently for a few other people it really did see after blair scott the communications director appeared on air he started getting death threats when he returned home after the interview his voicemail was full of hateful messages and he was quoted on the american atheist blog saying that you can always tell when somebody from the group is on fox news because in inbox explodes with hate e-mail and over the fo

for cross party. fine go to you first century local mogo international later twenty years ago there was this coup what does it mean now twenty years after the fact which is a brand new russia recognizable from what happened twenty years ago when you teach your students when you talk to people about it what does it mean to you today. sadly too little i think it's a more significant historical event than is often recognized in contemporary russia and especially as well as in the courses that we teach it was a singular moment because it revealed in the. precise moment. in a beautifully tied up way. how in impotent the communist party had the calm and of course just the significantly it launched the political fortunes of boris yeltsin. ok jeffrey i mean would you agree with that i mean one of the interesting things is is that you know i think all of us when we study in the soviet union is that the communist party being all powerful very very powerful security forces a very powerful army the plotters had a

welcome to cross talk computor lavelle remind you we're talking about the war on drugs. ok. ok geoffrey and i to go back to you in newton i think one of the interesting things i found out researching this program is that politicians play a very big role in this policy and you know when they are up for election everybody wants to be tough on crime tough on drugs tough on this tough on everything tough on terrorism you just name it tough on something and there's not really much of a real discussion at least in the united states about how to deal with this growing problem especially coming from the south is this one of the bottlenecks that we have been having a more blunt discussion about how to deal with drug abuse and with the drug importation into the united states. well i think that the politicians are for the most part in both sides of the aisle democrats republicans conservative liberal are not talking about this issue very much but i think they're reflecting the views of the voters in the united states and similarly elsewhere i agree with mr absence and that there is not

buzz we're not going keep up with crosses anymore. >> over the years, crosses have been vandalized. and some residents find it disrespectful. especially the big number sign showing the current death tally. >> i find it a little bit disturbing people erecting this monument are doing so as a reflection of feelings against the war. is ironic to watch them exercise their constitutional rights. >> and catalina says the number won't grow, he will keep updating that sign. >> finish it or get out is the new message. >> did you ever imagine this now? >> never. never in a million years. that is a tragedy. >> and we lost laura anthon ease signal. thank you. >> and businesses trading stocks on wall street have been doe valued by $2 trillion in the last few days. and the dow jones closed 500 points in the red. and abc 7 is here. and people are nervous about what's happening. >> the dow was 2,000 ponts higher and the debate seemed far removed from the financial world. two weeks before the debt ceiling deadline, big money guys said don't worry about it. >> i don't think most are that concerned abo

i won't do it again. 237 looks good as you cross 880.this is a look at interstate 880 that traffic looks very nice driving past the oakland coliseum. no major problems today. all those raider fans are finally home. finally left. and this morning's commute is okay here at the bay bridge toll plaza with a little bit of delay in the cash lanes. hello steve. >>> good morning, sal. >> happy friday. >> thank you, sir. thick fog out there. we saw some toward milpitas and the north bay and santa rosa. not only coast but also inland. it's also a sign that high pressure is building in. maybe a mist. drizzle by the coast. but it's going to ramp up as we head into the weekend as we go into a cooler trend. a few high clouds drifting up. you can see those move in toward monterey county and santa clara county. the sea breeze has been cut in half compared to yesterday. today it's only 17. that is cut in half. that is a sign temperatures will warm up a little bit. 50s or very low 60s. 57 napa airport. cooler about five degrees cooler than that closer to

hello and welcome to cross talk i'm peter lavelle what do we mean when we use the word quest is it a place a state of mind or even a specific time in history also what is meant by the decline of the west particularly when so many ideas associated with it are now global. take. to cross out the meaning of the word west i'm joined by i mean he's in cambridge he's the director of the humanity center at harvard university in chicago we go to richard lee he's a professor at the department of philosophy at paul university and in washington we cross to william burns he's a professor at george washington university all right gentlemen cross talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want there are difference of opinion here and i'd like my viewers to see it if i go to homie bobby in cambridge first when the word west is used first of all do you like could see usage its application and what does it mean to you. well i don't like the word west when it's used in a kind of simple polarity with something that is not to the west because i think these geographical issues have really

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and borders that worked meant preventing illegal crossing but facilitating legal crossing. and the facilitating of legal crossing was extremely important and in some ways the most difficult task in enforcement because that's where the legal and illegal come together. the more you tighten up between the ports of entry, the more likely it is that you're going to have pressures through the legal avenues of entry. so that needs to be part of the equation. and where that was concerned, we were most dedicated to helping the flows of legal traffic. we created what was called a 20-minute rule at the key ports of entry, the most heavily crossed port of entry in the world, allen knows it well, and was actually able to observe no more than 20 minutes' rule through a whole variety of techniques we used with staffing and so forth to bring people through the border. that was combined with introducing the sentry lane concept which was the "fast lane"s that go through san diego and el paso and i think they're in a couple other places on the border. that actually required legislation becaus

borders that worked to us meant preventing illegal crossing but facilitating legal crossing. and the facilitating of legal crossing was extremely important and in some ways the most difficult task in enforcement because that's where the legal and illegal come together. the more you tighten up between the ports of entry, the more likely it is you'll have pressure through the legal avenues of entry. so that needs to be part of the equation. and where that was concerned, we were most dedicated to helping the flows of legal traffic. we created what was called a 20-minute rule at the key ports of entry, the most heavily crossed port of entry in the world was able to observe a no more than 20 minutes rule with staffing and so forth to breng people through the border. that was combined with introducing the sentry lane concept, which was the fast lane that go through in san diego and el paso and i think in a couple of other places now on the border. that required legislation because there was a prohibition in the appropriations against that so we worked with the san diego delegation

up next is our debate so cross talk and this time host peter the bell and his gas argue over the role of the u.s. federal reserve amid the continuing to deteriorate ssion of the world economies cross-talk is coming up in just a few months. we'll . review the latest unsigned stem signals from the rooms. we've gone through huge earth coverage. hello in the welcome to crossfire computable about the u.s. federal reserve has met and decided little as the global economic recovery slows now it's time for congress and the president to take things from there given the deadlock in washington and the debt crisis in europe is there any reason for optimism. to cross-talk the prospects for the global economy i'm joined by martin henniker in hong kong he's an associate director at the tight group in warsaw we have patrick young he's the executive director at divi advisors and editor of the gathering storm and in washington we cross to daniel mitchell he's a senior fellow at the cultural institute all right gentlemen this is crosstalk that means you can jump in anytime you want to very much encourage

talk team in the hunger for a gentleman this is cross talk and you have different opinions i want my viewers to see them william let's go to you first let's talk about the possibility of what's people are calling the return to the great recession so if you do have a magic number what the price of oil would be for the entire economy to take another major dip name your price well i think we have to differentiate here the. the price of oil these are really the u.s. economy i think will have relatively little effect on recovery because there is no recovery in the u.s. economy it's going into a deep depression and it's deepening by the hour by the month by the by the year in europe it can have an impact in so far as it has an impact on growth in china big. as the local mode of of the marvelous german recovery over the last eighteen months has been exports of machine goods and industrial products to china primarily so that could have an effect i don't think it would have an effect unless there's a sustained prize at least above one hundred fifty or thereabouts and we're not we're not there

that is you don't show up for cross stop artsy. i usually like to reward the first thing that had to get up early is for this program but we have two people from watching angeles today but i'm going to go to angela anyway i read antiwar dot com every single day many times a day and you do a wonderful service but you know antiwar dot com that was something the really brought people together when bush was going to war i mean legal war that he was pushing and mainstream followed along and now and i think you're a wonderful success but where is the anti-war movement today we have a lot more war if you read antiwar dot com the united states is complex contemplating military action even more places right now beyond libya so enjoy what happened. well and. one of these answers to one of our guests here today but the sobering one fortune answer is the neoconservatives and national sorites it was an anti bush movement more than it was an anti-war movement and that's where it went i mean barack obama person ship is so strong in the u.s. and d