this is significant because of how powerful david koch is for mitt romney.riginally, did not have his support, it went to newt gingrich, who also saw in the suite of sheldon adelson last time in the night before. mitt romney went to shake his hand. he put his hand on the shoulder last night as he is coming to give his acceptance address, and pointed at him read >> the triumph of karl rove. you do have a real [unintelligible] between the establishment and the tea party and karl rove really embodied the establishment. romney was much more of an establishment candidate, not a tea party favorite. you had rove quietly behind the scenes. romney never really caught fire. he rarely got 20%, maybe 30% of votes in the primaries. but he outlasted everyone as they were shot in the back. finally rove was able to harness the tea party dynamism and get the big backers like the koch brothers and sheldon adelson, and that meant vast sums of money they are able to spend today. >> thank you for being with us, craig unger and arun gupta. craig unger wrote, "boss rove: inside ka

this is good. >> we ran into david koch found founder of the koch industry. >> talk to us about paulke paul ryan. he's a superstar. >> what do you expect to hear in his speech. >> reduce the national debt and keeping us as a country from going bankrupt. >> how is citizens united effected this year's campaign. >> pardon me. >> how much money are going to spend on this election, mr. koch? >> cenk: once again, i got to go, i got to run dawg. amanda, we talk a lot about how there is not much going on in this convention, and it seems useless. but we might be wrong. it might be at these parties they're making the real decisions about policy if wins. >> they clearly are no doubt about that. citizens united changed everything. the coverage used to be how they were going to effect voters and do the gears of democracy. now so much more money is coming into it. our ability to cover it has not caught up at all. >> cenk: yes john? >> you can't stand up for main street when you're on all fors for call street. we saw the strategy beautifully done. you saw them dangle red meat for social conservativ

no, it's david koch.but he funds the metropolitan opera, big supporter of it, the metropolitan museum of art, cancer research centers around the country. but most of their money goes into political activities, and they are everywhere. the heritage foundation in washington, d.c., koch brothers. the cato institute when it started, koch brothers. some of you may know now the koch brothers, cato kind of went its own independent way, and the koch brothers are now suing the cato institute to get it back to being a totally-controlled koch brothers operation. people -- americans for prosperity, is the most active political organizations today, all funded for the koch brothers. freedomworks, dick armey's organization, koch brothers. john kasich in ohio, koch brothers. candidate -- bought lock, stock and barrel by the koch brothers. same as scott walker in wisconsin. everywhere. in many california a couple of years ago there was a measure, prop 23, on the ballot to repeal the new clean car standards put in by arnol

now, it's david koch. he financed the metropolitan opera, a big supporter of the. the metropolitan museum of art, cancer research centers around the country. but most of their money goes into political activities, and they are everywhere. the heritage foundation in washington, d.c., koch brothers. the cato institute when it started, koch brothers. some of you may know now that koch brothers, cato when its own independently and the koch brothers are now suing the cato institute to get it back to the a totally controlled koch brothers operation. people -- americans for prosperity, the most active political organization today all funded by the koch brothers. freedom work in the dick armey's koch brothers. john kasich and ohio, koch brothers candidate, bob lock, stock and barrel by the koch brothers. same with scott walker in wisconsin. everywhere in california, a couple years ago there's a measure prop 23 on the ballot to repeal the clean, new clean car standards put in by arnold schwarzenegger. that measured to repeal standards which loss, prop 23, totally funded by

>> david koch was there. the americans for prosperity event.lleague tried to go to the event and was firmly told he was not allowed to be there. >> you identify yourself as the sunlight foundation? >> tweeted >> when i attempted to interview david koch within the delegation, he was sitting, and everyone around him stood up and cowered behind them so it made it impossible to ask him. all of the delegates stood up to protect him from a reporter's question. >> we have been finding in the charlotte convention, talking to super pac donors at both conventions, my colleague run into jim simmons who is given to a few democratic super pacs. last night, he was chatting up. he was in a rush, but did not try to push away and not talk about it. the donors here seem to be happy to be talking about the funding and a fund-raising they're doing for the democrats. >> the convention itself is happening in the time warner cable convention center. at&t is around our necks. legislators are legislating constantly around issues of the telecoms. >> they really are but

ticket back in one thousand nine hundred they also went on to fund similar think tanks like the david koch foundation later renamed the cato institute also devoted to libertarian government and maybe societies where the poor and working class are left to fend for themselves in one nine hundred seventy one the us chamber of commerce and corporate america got into the game that here lewis powell. those palm supreme court justices wrote actually this is a few months before he was appointed supreme court he wrote a memo to him his best friend next door neighbor the president of the u.s. chamber of commerce suggesting the businesses should start investing more money in political lobbying in college curricula and in media to push a pro corporate agenda powell likely had no idea how influential his memo would become and the damage to america it would cause but his her gene corporate america went to work funding think tanks buying up the media and hiring sympathetic college professors to teach the values of the corporate run so-called free market. by the time i ran died in one thousand nine hundre

charles and david koch of koch industries round out the top five. the 400 richest people on the list gained this year. net worth collectively was up by $1.7 trillion. billionaire mark zuckerberg retained a spot on the list; however, forbes notes that facebook's ceo lost the most on the list this year, about $8.1 billion to be exact. still to come, "finding nemo 3- d." what's with all the 3-d re- releases? is this a new profit niche for the studios? we'll talk about that in movies & money. first though, we love our technology, but you need to break those bad tech habits that cause you to waste so much time. how to search with a purpose - next. ove our technology. admit it, it's so addictive. all this stuff is supposed to improve life, but does it really? don't we really need to break this addiction to always be checking news sites, emails and texts? jennifer jolly is a highly recharged technology lifestyle expert. she's also one of the editors at tecca.com. what's the matter with us? > > we are tuned in and really tuned out. we're tuned into technolo

one of the few to actually show up on the floor was billionaire david koch, a member of the new york delegation who reportedly pledged to spend millions of dollars to defeat barack obama. >> it's important for the american public to know who's financing their conventions and who the candidates could be beholden to. >> reporter: but when abc news caught up with koch away from the convention center, he didn't want to talk about why he gives so much money. >> abc news, mr. koch. >> reporter: as part of the secret effort, the romney campaign used a 150-foot yacht, registered in the grand cayman islands, to host the most elite fundraisers, the victory council, those promising to raise a million dollars or more. the campaign refuses to reveal the names of these people, as allowed under current law, making it hard to know what they might want from a romney administration. >> the romney campaign is the first in many years to not release the names of their bundlers. >> reporter: and as the romney victory council members left the yacht, secrecy seemed to be the order of the day. how much money

agree the libertarian party let's talk about that the party has been on record as far back as when david koch ran for the same office you are as the party's v.p. back in one thousand nine hundred as saying that we should turn social security and medicare over to the banks toure's we should do away with public parks and unemployment insurance we should privatized our schools even our roads that's all pretty far out of the mainstream of american political thought do you expect the party will ever moderate its views or do you think that the american people will want to move america on that's not our head though those are simply not our views and they're not. abuse it all we need government of course we do we need regulation of course we do by the way i'll be the first peace corps volunteer to be elected to national office i care about people we will have a safety net but the difference is that the federal government be the last resort instead of the first resort and we're not going to sell our national parks and we're certainly not as far as social security is concerned we're libertarians we bel

i'm very nervous when i hear jim demint and david koch say we can expect taxes because i think it opens the door for the democrats and president obama who has signaled a desire to do this. to cut medicare. cut medicaid. perhaps even cut social security. i think that's absolutely -- would be disastrous. >> eliot: that's the bargain they should not make. joe, last question. throw. >> curveball. three senate races virginia, massachusetts, and montana. pick one tell me who's going to win. go out on a limb. >> let's go massachusetts. my former home state. elizabeth warren is looking good coming off strong. good appearance at the convention in charlotte. senator scott brown is feeling the weight of the mitt romney anchor and is struggling to try to break and hold and serve against warren. i think he's pretty much going to be a one and done. >> eliot: sam, any one of those three? two word answer? >> tester could pull it out. warren definitely. >> eliot: okay. all right. political reporter joe williams and sam seder host of ring of fire and the majority report, many thanks to both of you. >> my

according to politico, that includes billionaire romney backer david koch. when a reporter reminded him his candidate strongly opposes, he responded, well, i disagree with that. >> when mitt romney ran against ted kennedy, he said he was going to be a better defender of gay rights. not on marriage. that's been untrue. mitt romney as a business man brings marketing techniques to politics and he's got a consumer angle here. comes with an expiration date. we know any policy he take, it's not good after a certain time. >> we're going to miss you, mr. frank. nobody else thinks like you. thank you. mayor villaraigosa of los angeles and barney frank. up next, president obama enjoys a big lead among women, if they can push that gender gap this week, they can they can get president obama over the top in november. that's ahead. >>> california governor jerry brown took offense when chris christie made fun of him at a republican breakfast last week. he told the 74-year-old governor and mocked his age saying he was only 14 when brown challenged jimmy carter for the nomin

billionaire oil tycoons charles and david koch and their special- interest friends are spending $400lion to buy this year's elections and advance their agenda. what's their payback? politicians who will pass laws that benefit special interests, but hurt the middle class; more tax cuts for the rich eliminate the minimum wage big cuts to our schools, but big subsidies for oil companies, learn what you can do at... toling m lvg a d severely injured parking frenc nearby also shot to de little ctu inside to evenyear-old sis is in a medically inda.ancase. what are the latest murders? >> welprofound sens quiet london suburb of clay theuse behind me were a way. we're still french police. they're looking for two hicles motorcycle and green 4 by 4. it is a frenc leading this. people are digesting the news of what s were of execution-style shooting. three adults in the car shot through the head. a child a 7-year-old child, shot as she tried apparently to flee. she was found on the road outside. amazingly, the 4-year-old girl who was cowering in the back of the car stayed in there wasn't discove

now even david koch of koch industries is saying: >> why? because he's going to trick you., here's a little tax increase wink wink. now give me your social security money. that is a deal i am not interested in. finally, david axelrod when asked about the social security deal had this interesting response. >> mark, i'll tell you what, when you get elected to the united states senate and sit at that table, we'll have -- this is not the time. we're not going to have that discussion right now. >> why doesn't he want to have that discussion about social security wouldn't it be the easiest thick for a politician to say under no circumstances will we cut social security. 84% of americans agree with that. if you're a progressive democratic you say of course, never cut social security. that god damned mitt romney wants to cut it. right? he doesn't say that. the top strategist for president obama says oh, before an election is not time to talk about it. they're going to do the grand bargain after the election and cut your social security. i'm trying to look out for you. remember in 2

according to politico, that includes billionaire romney backer david koch.a reporter reminded him his candidate strongly opposes, he responded, well, i disagree with that. >> when mitt romney ran against ted kennedy, he said he was going to be a better defender of gay rights. not on marriage. that's been untrue. mitt romney as a business man brings marketing techniques to politics and he's got a consumer angle here. comes with an expiration date. we know any policy he take, it's not good after a certain time. >> we're going to miss you, mr. frank. nobody else thinks like you. thank you. mayor villaraigosa of los angeles and barney frank. up next, president obama enjoys a big lead among women, if they can push that gender gap this week, they can they can get president obama over the top in november. that's ahead. deys a mhea fo.m rb s iautgyotam stbe, e or deys a mhea fo.m rb looking for a better place to put your cash? here's one you may not have thought of -- fidelity. now you don't have to go to a bank to get the things you want from a bank, like no-fee at

assets at his disposable, fox news, ann coulter, "the wall street journal," karl rove, bill crystal, david koch very good candidate or is it because hisolicies stink? which of the two? >> well, i'm not going to apologize publicly like krystal. she's brar than me. but it's going back to t erat exposing a new reality for the part which is today, which is a record number, 40% of all americans identify as independent. that's a record number. 31% democrat, and 27% republican. and that's a shrinking number aren you looat the last ve un y adjust and react to a shrinking number and change the rhetoric and really, you know, reach out tohe fastest growing segments of minoritie and women in this country that will take the president and the new president to the white house, en it's going to contie to sh. nk'm g to blame the strategists that are ignoring the numbers. >> really, the strategists. krystal, i want you to take a look at romney's reaction today when a dretful, evil reporter dared to ask him some specifics t. the programs he was going to enneo pbs, not send money to the national endowment for huma

oracle is third and brothers charles and david koch are tied at fourth. >>> in new york, you need to camp out for one. these people are waiting along 5th avenue ahead of the phone's release in stores this friday. but preorders are already backed up online and apple says those will not ship for another three to four weeks. >>> there seems to be an app for everything these days, including one that will help you talk like a pirate. that can be useful today because you see, in case you didn't know, september 19 is international talk like a pirate day. the event first started in 1995. apparently when one of the founders injured himself playing racket ball and yelled arr. talk like a pirate. >> who proclaims these days? can you pick up a day and say i want mine to be, wear blue day? >> international talk like a pirate day? >> i thought it was national. i didn't know it was international. that's out there. >> oh yeah. all right, 72 was the high. we were 80 yesterday. our cold front did its job. let's start with a live look outside michael and son weather cam. it's just gorgeous. this is loo

billionaire oil tycoons charles and david koch and their special- interest friends are spending $400on to buy this year's elections and advance their agenda. what's their payback? politicians who will pass laws that benefit special interests, but hurt the middle class; more tax cuts for the rich, eliminate the minimum wage, big cuts to our schools, but big subsidies for oil companies, learn what you can do at... >>> president obama in portsmouth, new hampshire, and let's listen in. >> a gorgeous day like today and we walked and came down here, and there was a theater and improve for a little while and i sat there and i think that i bought some ice cream which reminds me of by the way that malia and sasha love new hampshire not only because of where they go to camp, but it also they first campaigned with us, and i think that the first day of campaigning, they got ice cream four times in a row. so they turned to michelle and me, and said, we love this campaigning thing. we want to campaign with you all of the time. now, i just come from charlotte where we had a great convention. folks

that includes billionaire romney backer david koch. he told politico i believe in gay marriage.d mitt romney strongly opposes gay marriage. he responded well, i disagree with that. that's an interesting development today. >> let me say this. when mitt romney ran against ted kennedy, he said he was going to be a better defender of gay rights than kennedy. not of marriage though. that's been untrue. brings marketing techniques to politics. and he's got a consumer angle here. when he chooses a policy statement, it comes with an exmir ration date. until policy he says, it's not good after a certain time. i'll wait for the evolution. >> this is why we're going to miss you, mr. frank. nobody else thinks like you. thank you mayor of los angeles. and barney frank of the great state of massachusetts. >>> up next, president obama enjoys a big lead over mitt romney among women, but the democrats want to run up that score. and if they can push that gender gap this week they think they can get him over the top in november. that's ahead. this is "hardball," the place for politics. two years a

billionaire oil tycoons charles and david koch and their special- interest friends are spending $400 million to buy this year's elections and advance their agenda. what's their payback? politicians who will pass laws that benefit special interests, but hurt the middle class; more tax cuts for the rich, eliminate the minimum wage, big cuts to our schools, but big subsidies for oil companies, learn what you can do at... >>> a 7-year-old british girl could be the key to solving a chilling murder mystery. found severely injured outside this bullet-riddled car in a parking lot in the french ailla. a french cyclist was found nearby also shot to death. four killings in all. hours later, police realized the little girl's sister who was just 4 years old was actually hiding inside the car behind her mother's body too scared to even move. her 7-year-old sister is in a medically induced coma. i spoke to cnn's dan rivers about the case. what are the latest developments in the murders? >> well, there's a real profound sense of shock here in the quiet london suburb of clay gate. people still digest

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