david rothkopf joins me now. he's a columnist for the daily beast., this is something i think people don't even remember when they look at how wacky elon musk is. u.s. agencies that elon musk has a stake in, because his presidency would give him huge power over literal federal agencies, this guy is a massive federal contractor. and we have a chart here. like a graphic, to show you just how many federal contracts this man has. it's actually frightening to me, when i saw it, it was shocking to me. can we put it up? this is three. element three. do we have it? while we pull it, we're going to talk to you. this guy has massive amounts of federal contracts, including defense contracts. your thoughts. >> he's got lots of conflicts of interest with what he is doing right now. but you know, for trump, they're not conflicts of interest, they're the reason you get into politics. trump got into politics to make money. the people who support trump are supporting trump because he will help them make money. when he was president before, the only real legislative a

joining me now is sarah matthews, former deputy press secretary in the trump white house, and david rothkopf, columnist for the daily beast and host of the deep state radio podcast. sarah, i want to start with you first because you have worked for donald trump. do you see the cognitive decline that the las vegas sun sees? >> i think i do. you look at the videos of him in 2016 and compare it to now, and it does appear like he's lost his fastball. no one would evsay donald trump has been the most eloquent speaker, but i do think that if you go back and watch those old videos of him, and compare it to now, it's just so apparently clear to me. and he is rambling more, more incoherent. can't stay on message, and so it does appear to me that there's a cognitive decline there, and i think voters need to ask themselves. this was obviously such an issue for biden's candidacy so why doesn't that translate for trump then? biden, i think he was all there in his mind, but his age was showing a little more in his physicality. but with trump, it's mental. and so we really need to ask ourselves if we want t

. >> let's bring the columnist david rothkopf. >> it's a pattern of behavior.have seen as richard said for many years now, it's affected the way he has governed the country. it's not just he's saying nice things, he said he wanted to pull troops out of nato and as recently as the debate, he would not say he wanted ukraine to win the debate. here he was in mar-a-lago, surrounded by stolen national secrets, on the phone, to vladimir putin, shortly after trump had tried to commit a coup, i think we sometimes devalue what happened that day. he said i don't care about the voters. i don't care about the will of the people. i don't care about where power resides in our society. i'm going to steal it and hold on to the presidency. subsequent to that, he started resuming a relationship with putin that today has putin having his intelligence service pumping disinformation in to the debate about the campaign, trying to get trump to win, so that putin can win in ukraine. it's an incredible threat to our national security, and then to compound all of that, of course, we hav

. >> the daily beast david rothkopf, thank you. >> richard, talk about the consequences of this. sitting on documents seized from the white house. highly classified documents. he's lobbying republicans to vote against aid for ukraine. and he's carrying on a personal relationship with vladimir putin. >> it's all that. there's the anti-ally bias of his foreign policy that he often values relationships with authoritarian friends over democratic allies. there's a strong isolationist tendency. what's at stake in this election, let's be honest, whether the contours of foreign policy over a war that has served us well, three quarters of a century, whether that's going to be largely continued or whether it's going to be disrupted. quite honestly, if donald trump wins, not just the world, but taiwan, what he said, it's so much closer to china, what are we essentially doing looking out for taiwan. things that we take for granted at home and abroad are up for grabs. literally, joe, with a football analogy, now that the giants have finally won a game. normally, games take place between the 4