it's not the kinds of comments like jim demint said. it was the birther controversy. it's all of this otherness that goes on. it's the us versus them, as you talked about. when we talk about the immigration debate and energy debate. everything is trivialized into it's either this or that. it's the false choice of it's either this or that rather than people need to stand up and say, no, it's not. we want better options. that's what you're talking about when we talk about elections. but we also have to be pushing that more in our policy discussions. this is something i said about the president. what he's tried to do, and in this environment, that's all you can do is to have incremental steps. in this environment, i don't think it's possible to have the big changes we need. think about what bill bratton was talking about with collaboration. you can't collaborate with people like jim demint who says we have nothing in common. how is it possible that we don't have a shared goal of getting people jobs? how can that not be a shared goal. but i think the bottom line is people

he is one of the good guys i want to welcome senator jim demint. senator jim demint started out in washington in 1998 when he was elected to the house of representatives where he served three terms. we got to know him well during those years and worked with him on a range of issues, none of them small. he tends to think about the biggest problem statement country and introduce legislation to address those problems and create solutions to them. he represents south carolina. he was elected in 2004. national acclaim, we remember him for this, as a tireless advocate to end earmarks and in fact in 2006 he single-handedly at the end of the session stopped 10,000 projects from going forward. "the wall street journal" estimated it save the american taxpayer $17 billion the taxpayer's greatest ally. and 90 -- 2006 he was elected chairman of the sentence hearing to many which is a caucus of senators, majority republican senators and senators andy is worked with conservative legislation in in a variety of areas. he has been the speaker at the cpac conference

senator jim demint of south carolina. great stuff. hope to see you soon. >> thanks, larry. >>> all right. coming up, the $30 billion man. we're going to put a face on that story and all the late-breaking headlines coming into the cnbc newsroom. please stay with us. >>> facebook founder and ceo mark zuckerberg. he may be the $30 billion man. more on that and all the latest break in headlines coming into the cnbc newsroom. good evening, seema. >> that's right, facebook's initial public offering may value mark zuckerburg at $15 billion. that may make him on par with ellison who started oracle 35 years ago. not bad. and the world's largest diversified commodities trader is in talks to buy a mining group in a transaction that could combine close to $80 billion. the merger would create one of the world's largest mining companies. >>> and china snaps up three energy deals. chinese institutions unveil three separate energy deals in north america and europe that underscore beijing's need to seed its booming economy. >>> and potentially bad new

i think, again, when you hear it from senator demint.clearly senator boehner understands it, but whether or not he can control the conference is another matter all together much he has not been able to in the past and they still wield a great deal of influence. >> isn't it frightening that jim demi demint has become the voice of reason on the republican party. it must be wild to see 200 crazy people once in a while. thank you congressman. >> i served with jim demint in the house, he is actually one on one, a reasonable and good guy. his political view on the other hand, well that is another question. >> when he says you have to tame the crazies i'm beginning the to wonder. anyway. thank you congressman. what is next for newt gingrich, he was the odd man out last night, all the talk was about the big upset of santorum over romney. what about this guy, he is a problem for romney and by the way, a fitness throw down, the first lady versus jimmy fallon. she is great. look at her. she is great. >> we are all tied up, potato sack race for all

gs so want to welcome senator jim demint. senator jim demint started outut in washington in 1998 when he was elected to the house of representatives where he servedr three terms. we got to know them very well during those years, and work with him on a range of issue. he tends he tends to think about the biggest problems facing the country and his instincts lead him to want to introduce legislation to address those problems and great solutions for th them. he represents south carolina the keys the 55th center where he got elected w in 2004. international acclaim, remembering for this come as a tireless advocate to endadcate t earmarks began in fact in 2006 n he single-handedly at the end of this session stopped about 10,000 projects on going forward. "the wall street journal" e timate that saved americantimh taxpayers $17 billion, and taxpayers of greatest ally.d in 2006 he was elected chairman to a senate steering committee which is a caucus ofheari conservative senators, majority of republican centers.senatorsn he is work to

we note that jim demint has asked mitt romney to, and i'm quoting mr. he said he wasn't concerned or focusing on the poor. why don't we hear more members of the republican party call out this kind of dog whistle politics and say enough of this? this is hurtful. it's hateful, and according to what you've said, sir, during this interview, it may lead to something absolutely catastrophic and horrific. >> you know, in florida, 58,000 floridians are homeless and live in shelters every night. i think the press should have had some responsibility for exposing the issue of the property factor. in south carolina, 25% of all children are in poverty. some even the questioning back and forth would not include the poor and those in life's margins. when i stayed at a homeless shelter about a month ago, 25% were veterans, 25% the working poor, those driven off of their jobs and the home foreclosures and evictions. they need a helping hand and need intervention. they do not need to be abused. so immoral and unfair to do it and dangerous, i might add. >> indeed. the rev

why do you talk to senator demint? >> i spoke to him because in south carolina you have a state where there's been quite a few factories, a lot of manufacturing has been dismantled over the last several years but there's also a big relationship trade and investment between china and south carolina. so he was saying you know it really depends on who you talk into the business community on whether the relationship is going well or going poorly. manufacturers feel that china is not playing by the rules, and is really taking a hit or as a result american manufacturers are taking a hit. but you have a lot of tech companies doing really well in china. as a result there's a big split. he doesn't want to upset the apple cart, so to speak. >> yxi jinping is in town visiting and the headlines is he met with his critics in congress or there's been all these warnings whenever we talk to our chinese counterparts. what's the approach right now of the current congress and the current administration and does the approach to china chan

do any of the final four have that demint passion and fight? we talked to him earlier tonight. >> greta: what do you make of the sweep by rick santorum? he got missouri, minnesota and colorado? >> it makes it more exciting. i think what we're seeing what was happening in south carolina and florida, the candidate who is showing the most fight, the most tenacity is getting the vote. what i hear back home is thanks for fighting. we want to see passion, we want to make sure that our guy can take it to obama and take it to the media if they have to. we are tired of letting them get away with it. >> greta: so is it indistinguishable the four but some have more fight? >> i think that is what we're seeing. we're seeing that people can't decide between the four. the things about all of them we like. i feel the same we if we could take the best of all four and roll them together we would have a strong nominee. i any that is when we're going to have. the one who wins the nomination is going to extract the best ideas from all four and take it to the people

. >> no shared goals, senator demint? senator demint has no shared goals with the president who said this about helping troubled homeowners today? >> we are americans, and we look out for one another. we get each other's backs. >> looking out for americans. that's not a goal that's shared by the republican party because they have a different goal. their goal is denying the president credit for anything. >> he'll be pointing to bin laden. he'll be pointing to the overthrow of gadhafi. he'll be pointing to the arab spring as his foreign policy success story. and while without a shadow of a doubt, the world is better off without bin laden and without gadhafi, these are tactical successes. >> pardon me? getting rid of bin laden was just a tactical success? he just tactically died? and that's somehow different from a real success? folks, this is the same old story on the economy. >> everything got worse. the unemployment went up, the debt went up, the economy slowed down. everything got worse. >> so if i were president obama,

senator jim demint,. next, we look at recent magazine articles.is the 90th anniversary of "foreign affairs" magazine. "clash of ideas" is their story here. we will be right back after this news update from c-span radio. >> more from republican presidential candidate mitt romney in remarks earlier on cnn. he said his campaign is about what he calls the 90% to 95% of americans who are struggling, and is not concerned about the very poor and there is a safety net there. he added, "i'm not concerned about the very rich. they are doing just fine." stock futures are up on the news that private-sector employment rose by 170,000 in january, but that's less than the forecast of 185,000. dow futures are up. nasdaq is up 100. more on the economy this morning when doug elmendorf, the director of the congressional budget office, testified before a house budget committee. yesterday, he said the federal budget deficit will exceed $1 trillion in 2012 for the fourth consecutive year. hear his testimony live at 10:00 a.m. eastern time on c-span radio and watch on c

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>> look, jim demint was in the united states senate. congress has role to play allocating resources and it was abused. jim demint and i changed my position, too. earmarks aren't the issue. less than 1% of the budget. you talk to someone that have done the tough stuff, like reforming entitlement programs, that the big problem, that is hundreds of billions of dollars in unfunded liability. you have to take political heat to go out and take on social security and medicare and medicaid and reform the welfare system. there is nobody that did more to reform than i did i'll match my spending record with anybody. >> sean: there have been questions whether or not you have the money, the strength and the infrastructure. for example, to battle heading into super tuesday. do you have enough money to see this to the end? do you have enough infrastructure in super tuesday states to be able to compete everywhere? >> i came to dallas for a reason. there is a lot of great folks, conservative folks who have resources. we've had a very, very good day here

i'd say senator jim demint in the game said playing it safe, which romney tends to do is not going to go for him. well, look, romney is trying to jump on the culture war now. here we go. >> remarkably under this president's administration, there is an assault on religion, an assault on the conviction and the religious believes of members of our society that religious organizations like schools, catholic schools, catholic hospital and so forth have to provide for free contraceptives and free morning-after pills. abortive pills for all of their employees. >> i think we're getting the picture here. santorum's french revolution, romney's assault on religion, wait a minute, one more. oh yeah, newt gingrich. here he is talking about president obama. >> he's basically declared war on the catholic church. every time you turn around secular government is closing in on and shrinking the right of religious liberty in america, i think there are millions of people disturbed by it. >> war, have any of these guys been to war? a culture war. and it's back in a big, big way. this is their best play ri

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>>neil: that was senator demint yesterday and i got a lot of e-mail on that and more republicans arecing concerns over the party's payroll tax compromise cave in. fox news chief congressional correspondent with the latest. mike? >>guest: conservatives are clearly uncomfortable with adding another $100 billion to the $15 trillion-plus nation's debt by not paying for the compromise. the extension of that. and, so, congressman tom price was among the first to express concern. >> it is a problem for many folks. this is not, this temporary tax holiday is obviously temporary, but the money is dedicated to the social security trust fund. >>reporter: but the republican low pressure are tired of the beating they taking from democrats who suggest that the republicans are cool with the idea of raising taxes on 160 million americans by allowing the payroll extension to expire. here is speaker boehner on that. >> i will not allow the democrats to continue to play political games and raise taxes on working americans. so we made a decision for bring them to the table so the games would stop and we

when you got jim demint to pull something back you know you're in trouble. bob, will the romney camp shift gears or stick to the script here? >> this wasn't the script. he may have been saying it on the road but i'm sure stewart stevens, his strategist, doesn't want him to say something like this. what happened with romney in a series of comments overtime when he gets off the leash, he's actually proving the point that president obama is trying to make. that this is an election between fairness and unfairness. that is why i think you've seen the approval numbers for romney go down, he's now 31/41 upside down in the nbc wall street journal poll. a new poll in ohio today showing him losing that critical state by 6 points to the president. they have been clobbering newt gingrich by saying he has a lot of baggage. the truth is, romney has a lot of baggage, too, only his is louis vuitton. >> what do you think of the timing of president obama's proposal to people struggling with mortgages and upside down situations as far as value and what they owe on their homes?

>> jim demint, a favorite of the tea party supported ear marks at the same time i did. just like i did, i've now opposed earmarks because they were abused. but during the time i was supporting them, so was jim demint and just about every other member of congress. it was abused and should be banned. i'm taking the position of banning them. at the time i was supporting them, so was governor romney and just about everybody else. and you know, that was something that i think we all saw the error of our ways and have changed our position. >> senator, let's end with setting your standard for tomorrow night. do you believe in your heart you can wip at least one of these states tomorrow, maybe more? >> i think we can doing very well there, yeah, i think we certainly have a chance of winning one or more of those states tomorrow. but you know, a strong showing is a strong showing. we're very encouraged that we're going to have a strong showing in all three states and we'll go from there. >> very jealous of senator rick santorum tonight. he found the in golden, colorado. we'll tal

demint these technology as well steve cava, our chief of staff. thank you for being here. i also wanted knowledge two guests that i did not get to technology earlier. there are so many people. i definitely wanted to mention akiko yamazaki. she is the president of the -- we also have a strategy director of wolff olins. he is an island in designer. please come up and tell us more about what your involvement was. >> good morning, everybody. speaking of presidents, apparently my daughter things i am the president of asia. a friend of hers said, are you the president of asia? apparently i hold that an important title here. anyhow, i wanted to tell you that this branding project has been in the making since 2007, so it has been a long pregnancy. it is so great to see this until today. this started as part of our strategic directions plan. of course, in 2008, with the arrival of jay, started developing a new vision which he started to share with us. the branded product has been instrumental for us to not only define how do want to present ourselves externally, but how we want to

he would be vulnerable if he was competing for conservative votes against jim demint. guess mitt romney i think it's clear that santorum is the economic conservative. you might see he is not electable for other reasons but in terms of spending he was more conservative than the average republican in the senate. >> paul: his record was "a" minus? >> you are talking about future liabilities and he led the charge on that on social security. it ended up costing an election in part. to go after him as a big spender is ridiculous. >> paul: i remember writing column bums about he was for private accounts before george bush was when it had been tried as a political issue. dan, what about this union point? >> he represented pennsylvania. i've looked at the record. basically there was a good rick and bad rick. good was the senator that served four years of the term. a lot of what romney is true. that happened in the final years of his term as he got closer to the vote. >> paul: they would say that is cynical. that is politics as usual, that is not what i want. >> 2006 his electio

>> senator demint is correct. president's budget director was in front of the committee and admitted under oath in front of the committee the president's budget never balances, from here to infinity, any way you score this it never gets to balance. >> is the size of the debt relative to the economy? the president plan would lower the deficit less than 3% of the size of the economy, the economists consensus that is a formula for growth and look, if all this big spending stuff were true, why did businesses add 3.5 million new jobs since march of 2010? >> i just want to come back to the dysfunction of no budget vote in the senate. on top of the dysfunction of no budget proposal to deal with entitlements. those were the key sticking points last spring and summer when we faced the credit downgrade, jim jordan and i want to ask you what you and your colleagues think will happen now? >> i think you're right we'll get another downgrade, it's enevidenenit's inevitable. three months ago we crossed the threshold, we have a d

politico.com story today in which a number of senators are critical of mitt romney including senator jim demintnd senator ron johnson, but most particular, john kyl has sharp words for governor romney. here's when he said. romney's support for indexing minimum wage for inflation is something, that quote, everyone knows is a bad idea. he goes on to say conservatives wonder, whether he, romney, has the instinks to take the conservative position on issues. you want one with a very thick view of what's right or wrong and he concludes, i think conservatives need to be persuaded that mitt has a firm fix on where the conservative star is. >> kevin madden, is mitt conscious of this? will he speak, and these are not unfair concepts raised by john kyl? >> no, they're not. >> that's really important feedback and from a campaign perspective, you always want to hear that type of feedback, particularly from a conservative as respected as senator kyl. look, cpac is an incredible opportunity for governor romney to speak directly to conservatives about the issues they care about. they care about the economy and

jim demint of south carolina saying that.an anonymous republican senator told abc news, quote if romney loses michigan, we need a new candidate. what's all of this indicating, nia? >> well, it's indicating that romney, to a lot of republicans, is still a fragile front-runner. he looked like he gained some momentum coming out of florida and then wrapped up nevada. then ran into santorum's three-state streak. now he's running into problems in michigan. i think even if he wins michigan, it's probably going to be a close race no matter what. i was campaigning with santorum last week in idaho. and he was saying that he expects to come in second which would be pretty good for his candidacy. it's proportional balloting. i think this talk of a brokered convention reflects his general sense that romney hasn't been able to close the deal among conservatives. and he's seeming like a weak candidate. he's not very good on the stump when it comes to the sort of feel your pain aspect that a lot of presidential candidates have to master. and

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jim demint of south carolina. thank you, sir. thanks for the op ed piece. coming up on kudlow. the dow dropped 100 points today on concerns about greece. i don't know. i think stocks have a lot of concerns about the u.s. budget bomb that's going off and my 14,000 meltup for the dow may be interrupted ed oed on channeli pal. he's the only guy that has a similar worry about a budget meltdown. are we ready to have it next up on the investment sector. we'll see about the pros and cons. look, folks, free market capitalism is the best path to prosperity and it needs to have some semblance of hope. limit government, grow the economy, have tax reform and let's do the right things. we're not doing them. that's what worries me. "why did i roll over my i.r.a. to scottrade?" "for starters, it didn't cost me anything." "and i got a one-hundred dollar cash bonus for rolling over by april 16th." "i like bonuses." "plus at scottrade, there are thousands of commission-free investments." "and if i need help, i can find it online, by phone or at one of over five-hundred scottrade locations." "it'