dick cheney is a public figure. i'm a public figure. washington has to learn because the rest of the country laughs at us but there were no issues with respect to lawyers in the briefings and meetings that i went to. we have a very rigorous ethics process in the house of representatives. so those lawyers, that was different against members of congress are an accepted permitted to accept to ensure we are not violating any of the house ethics rules not a separate legal process that was very long and that they should be, very detailed. >> i am also jewish from new york on the saws off on the phone with my mother. >> i'm sure mothers know each other. >> stand. coffee westchester. >> horrible people. >> my question is with the new administration have you noticed large-scale changes with the programs because of that? or is that much more transparent? aroma hearing the news wrong. >> with the exception of the issue of guantÁnamo i haven't noticed large-scale approach like surveillance. there is a book by president obama. i couldn't describe it

and so i obtained my own picture of dick cheney. i have a character in the book named through -- prewitt. he is a legal advisor to the secretary, the fictitious legal advisor to the homeland secretary tom ridge and he's the liaison between ridge and cheney. if you've read about homeland security secretary tom ridge's book, which i picked up, he acknowledges that there was pressure on him at times to raise the alert and it didn't always feel that the fact narrative what he was asked to do. and so john arrives at the white house as soon as the gate to the west executive began swinging open and he threw the usual pain in his stomach and side. vice cheney would feel a similar pain in his chest and that was the bond between them. it hurts them to see each other. [laughter] >> he arrived in the white house and i describe what it's like to have a privilege of entering the white house frequently, so i describe what's behind the scenes. and now he arrives in the vice president's office. the office is smaller and more functional. his guests s

he is dick cheney and she in this -- he is the face of the partnership, this is going to sound terrible but in her eyes he is the brain of it and he is going to do the dirty stuff that he wants to be ignorant of and keep him clean. >> i think ultimately what we are being paid to do is just inhabit a psyche for a certain amount of time and my that out play that meditation out, and how to do that, i am constantly curious about how, what that process is and refining it and like you said, every character is different every single one that you play requires different parts of yourself. >> rose: congressman john lewis the argument david oyelowo, the jessica chastain and oscar isaac when we continue. >> funding for charlie rose is provided by the following. >> additional funding provided by -- >> >> and by bloomberg a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. >> from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> >> rose: on this day we pay tribute to the life and helping situate of leader of the civil rights movement would have turned 86 on january 15, his commem

one of the things that made the post 9/11 theories of dick cheney and george bush so extremist is there is no more limitless power that a president han the power he can exercise during a theater of war. on a battlefield, there really is no law. everybody acknowledges that. terrorist say when men take up arms, law false. more is the ultimate expression of lawlessness in limitless powerful stuff on the battlefield, people shoot each other without having trials or due process. everyone agrees that is war to nobody thinks soldiers have to give opposing soldiers a trial before shooting them. that is what war is. what made these post-9/11 theories so radical is the assertion was made for the first time theaters of war were no longer confined to find a physical faces, the battlefield. it was now the case the entire planet was the battlefield. including u.s. soil. therefore, the limitless power that the president can exercise on a battlefield are now no longer confined to physical spaces. essentially the president is omnipotent everywhere because that is where the battlefield is found. what you

. >> the anti-war group code pink rallied outside dick cheney's home. police arrested two of them for trespassing, including an 83-year-old woman. they are angry at cheney for the harsh techniques in guantanamo bay. >> the casino in ocean downs has apologized for kicking a breast-feeding mother. security officers told her to leave because the baby isn't 21 years old and posed a security threat. >> the newly elected governors of maryland and massachusetts bus a bet on the playoff game. blue crabs with seasoning, and cupcakes with locally brewed beer. next on news4 at 11:00, good health is the name of the game. thousands learning the key to better living comes step by step. expect the morning commute to be >>> today the cilled with learning laughter and healthy living as we kicked off the health and fitness expo. our own aaron gilchrist was there. >> the leafy greens like kale and collards are a good source of calcium. >> fit, fun and healthy. those were the themes of the day as thousands stopped by the convention center to not just learn about their heal

and as for dick cheney and george bush?eally don't think i can add anything to what colonel wilkerson and richard clarke have said. i think if you look at the report, it provides very persuasive evidence that torture was used to produce false evidence to justify the invasion of iraq. that is buried in footnotes in the report but it is there. it is very, very clear. that is a shocking and humiliating fact for the united states, in a fact that should have consequences. >> over the weekend, nine pakistanis were killed as far as we know and yet another drone strike, perhaps the first of 2015 the we don't absolutely know this. talk about drones in the art of stealth warfare. >> i think the use of drones are it is her significant. it points to the way we have redirected our entire attitude toward waging war today. we prefer covert war. we give the cia a greater a greater role in waging this war. the ca has become opposite of what it was intended to be. it is focused very heavily on operations, and many of them's just -- sustain l

. >> i got the script through the documentary on dick cheney. it was fresh in my mind.our-hour lunch. to me she is not the wife. she is dick cheney. he is the face of the partnership. in her eyes, she is the brain of it. she is going to do the dirty stuff he wants to be ignorant of. >> you do not want to be ignorant. you simply don't want to be involved in it or painted by it because it is strategic to him. did you discover an awareness that she thinks he is weak? >> i think that is part of it. i do not think he is that self-aware of these things. he is someone who came to this country and worked his way through in a blue-collar kind of way. he was a truck driver. he got into sales because he has a personality. it is laid out in the script. we got together. >> we got together over tea and went through everything aligned in the script. what does this mean. have we ever been physically violent? we made so specific when we were on set -- >> the two of you -- >> went to the director with our binders. this is what we figured out. he was like you julliard kids are freaking me

so today we see um, you know, dick cheney was pretty wrong about his comments about iraq. he said there were weapons of mass destruction he said we'd be greeted as liberators. one of the things he said was it would take weeks, not months for us to conclude our business in iraq. well, it took nine years. and barack obama concluded our business in iraq in december of 2011 but was unable to come to term les with the iraqis to keep kind of a carry-on force in iraq. and in hindsight, president obama was wrong. he washed his hands of iraq after december 2011. who could blame him at that point? but what happened is maliki, who was the prime minister that bush and cheney put into place, made a bad situation worse. he was a punitive, small-minded, shiite politician. he discriminated against and took advantage of the sunni minority, the kurdish minority in iraq generating incredible bad feelings and opening the door to isis, to the islamic state to come in and fill that vacuum. and now president obama -- and we've all come to realize the threat that we have from the islamic state an

now let's shift ahead and i want to introduce you to dick cheney as i've been introduced to him. we all know vice president cheney here dishonors recently as a few weeks ago after the senate committee released favoretta torture. just when you thought it was safe, he's back saying i was so good i do it all over again. that's how much i enjoy torture. can't wait to do that again. and so i pay my own picture of dick cheney. i have a character in the book named prewitt. root is the conscience of responsibility in the bush administration. he's the legal advisor to secretary ridge mr. tisch's legal adviser to homeland security, secretary tom ridge. he is the liaison between rich and cheney. if you read former homeland security secretary tom ridge's book, which i picked out on the he acknowledges there was pressure on him at times to raise alerts and didn't always feel the fact american when he was asked to do. john prewitt arrives as soon as they begin slinking open -- sweden and open. felt the usual pain in his stomach inside. he was about to me with vice president cheney who would fee

put the camel down. >>> some anti-war protesters who targeted the home of former vice president dick cheneyrning. police arrested two of the demonstrators outside of cheney's home in suburban washington yesterday. the demonstrators dressed in orange jump suits to mark the 14th anniversary of the opening of the u.s. prison at guantanamo bay, cuba. police moved in after two of the protesters squeezed through a fence and started chanting on cheney's lawn. >>> pop kwisquiz. do you know exactly how many car lengths you should stay behind a snowplow? the answer along with some other winter driving tips that's next. >>> and we may need those tips tomorrow morning. we're looking at a chance for a wintry mix affecting your monday morning commute, but first things first, we're looking at a quiet day. mixture of sun and clouds as we go throughout this sunday and milder than yesterday. still cold though. we'll talk temperatures and talk that wintry mix coming up. discover brookside and discover an exciting combination of tastes. rich, dark chocolate covering soft centers. flavored with exotic fruit jui

yahoo answers to why dick cheney scowls.l. >> if you go to town on whether you thought someone was scowling behind the president of the united states have at it but you should be doing the same when the roles were and are reversed. and history tells us we grabbed a couple of those examples where that has not been considered the case. that's not fair and that's not balanced. i'm looking at tom foley. he didn't look like a happy camper to be there. no one made an issue of it then like people try not to make an issue of it now. why now? >> i think we need to look at what is asked. it was sort of a leading question as we say in journalism. he was making the assumption that there was a scowl. >> inarguable. >> so in journalism you are not supposed to do that. you ask questions. you don't put those answers on somebody before you ask the question. >> you are right. >> the other problem is women. >> this is a scowl. and this is not. >> you can never scowl i'm sorry. it just doesn't work with you, neil. >> i tried. >> good try. over

bush's dick cheney's occupation torture, one of the paris terrorists was radicalized by george w. bush's war. these are a blight on america's reputation. we are not going to get wisdom from people like lindsey graham or john mccain or some of the democrats who have bought into a war against terrorism, which is making the united states and west less secure. not more secure. >> what about this hacking of the youtube and twitter accounts? i was surprised the united states government had a twitter account. >> we have lots of them actually. >> i don't know what all of that was about, but how serious is this? my first reaction is what else are they going to do. >> this is an ongoing story. it is interesting that the pentagon, which has been hacked previously -- in journalism, we have seen things like the syrian electronic army hack major journals of opinion like "the new york times" for its commentary on syria. hacking in this new world are now a part of the terrain. it is interesting and ironic that the president was out talk talking about protecting all of this on the day that centcom

some anti-war protesters who targeted the home of former vice president dick cheney are in jail this morning. police arrested two of the demonstrators outside of cheney's house in suburban washington yesterday. the demonstrators dressed in orange jump suits to mark the 14th anniversary of the opening of the u.s. prison at guantanamo bay, cuba. police moved in after the two protesters started chanting on cheney's lawn. >>> when we come back on "nbc 10 news today," a disturbing discovery for a woman in philadelphia who found her boyfriend and two others dead. police are now looking for the person or people responsible. we'll have a live report from the scene coming up. >>> we finally made it into the 20 this is philadelphia. so warmer than this time yesterday. some spots still in the teens. also looking at a mixture of sun and clouds. we'll track that wintry mix for your monday morning commute, that's all straight ahead. >>> "nbc 10 news" starts now. >> six shootings overnight in philadelphia in just a few hours. inside the house at this scene, three people found dead. why police are ta

it's a description of vice president dick cheney, which i particularly like. let's go. e he was at the far end of the room, leaning on his desk, his arms spread and his wrists locked, vice president richard cheney. the editorial cart don't do cheney justice. they didn't capture the permanent sneer, the upturned lip that made it look like he was always on the verge of spitting from the side of his face. the way he seemed to duck his chin beneath his collar like a turtle retreating into his shell. the thinning white hair above the skeptical eyes. he was all the more frightening in person. have you shared this with the vice president? >> i have not. and at any time i'm missing three days, check with him. i'm not sure he's busting down the door to buy this book. i would attend meetings with president bush and vice president cheney, leading up to the war where they were trying to convince us that saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction. i would watch and observe what was happening, and i began writing those description says as soon as i came out of those meetings and i

president bush dick cheney karl rove to name a few.iewers what you have in your dedication. to former vice president dick cheney and to my dad who didn't particularly care for him. explain that. >> well vice president does make a recurrent appearance in this book. look it's a parody it's satire exaggerates characteristics and flaws not only about the vice president but many others, including some in congress and many of my colleagues. my dad was a very -- he was a hard-core democrat in phoenix, arizona. i lost him two years ago. when i would do shows like cnn and other networks he was my toughest critic. he would call immediately and say, you know, you weren't progressive enough you weren't liberal enough which is why i dedicated this book to him. >> here is what you wrote about a senator whose not named from new york but clearly depicting your own senior senator, chuck schumer. karen even managed to get an interview with the senator from new york a machine physiologically incapable of declining any request that involved a camera. he h

and dick cheney says the pulling out too quickly has resulted in where we are in iraq. >> it's too early to say how long the commitment is going to last trying to defeat these people. i don't think you can put a time limit on this because what is necessary is to see this in the context of what is happening obviously not just in iraq but in syria and lebanon and yemen and nigeria and central africa and other parts of the world. my view is wherever these people are you are going to have to go and confront them militarily. there's got to be someone's boots on the ground, not necessarily ours if it is others that would be better but i would see what you're seeing developing over the next few years is how to you construct the right alliance with the right capability to defeat them where they are. frankly you would defeat i.s.i.l. and wouldn't contend the problem. >> increasingly critics of the pullout are saying that we are definitely not at the right level right now and if there was something like a downsizing we overdid it. >> i think you again we are going to carry on having that debate. i

so what happened is before -- >> how do you get more to the reist dick cheney? the right of dick chain ?e we asked about climate change. before they talked in grew like-minded they could deal and talk to each other. but when the colsprings people talked only to the colorado springs people, and the boulder people talked to only the boulder people, it was it was as though they lived in different countries. >> jon: when they first got together, they were not stridently ideological? they were not dogmatic? but they became that way? >> that's right. they were diverse. so just like in any town that tend conservative or liberal you have some people who are far right, some people who are far left. they won't all be extreme. what happened was a short discussion of these three issues -- >> with each other. >> with each other made the conservatives much more conservative, made the liberals much more liberal. >> jon: so is the lesson here to not have congress caucus with each other? i think that would probably be a little too strong but i think it is a good idea for people

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for instance, i watch dick cheney operate. dick cheney`ll come into a room, there`s a problem, he`ll sit and look over the top of his glasses and put his, you know, fingers on his cheek and listen maybe for 20 or 30 or -- maybe -- minutes or maybe an hour, and then finally say, well, we need to do this. i kind of do the same thing, not because i`m copying him, it`s just my nature. but i will listen to both sides of a story, both -- if there`s two people in conflict or two committee chairmen that you have to deal with or a person who wants to -- has a difficult time to vote for something, he needs to make sure that that bill can -- he can sell that bill back home or be represented back home in doing the right thing. and so if we have to make a change in the bill or an adjustment, i`ll sit and listen and -- or if somebody feels that they`ve been short-changed by the leadership, you know, one way or another, the whole spectrum of leadership, i`ll sit down there and listen. i have to do that, and then try to solve those problems.

coming up next on booktv michael waltz former counterterrorism special adviser to vice president dick cheney and director of afghanistan policy at the department of defense. he talks about his experiences fighting the war on terror in afghanistan and in washington d.c.. this is about an hour and 20 mi

. >>> some anti-war protesters who targeted the home of former vice president dick cheney are in jail this morning. here's what happened. police arrested two of the demonstrators outside of cheney's house in suburban washington yesterday. the demonstrators dressed in orange jump suits to mark the 14th anniversary of the opening of the u.s. prison at guantanamo bay, cuba. police moved in after the two protesters squeezed through a fence and started chanting on cheney's lawn. >>> these drexel university students have been up all night. not studying. they're trying to win a national hacking competition. we'll explain after the braechblg. >>> speaking of competition, tonight is the golden globe awards on nbc 10. we'll check out the buzz on who's expected to win big. >>> we have big-time changes in our weather. not today. we're looking at a cold day. but still, we're going to keep it dry throughout the day. a lye look along boat house row. then we have the big changes for your monday morning commute. talking wintry mix, snow sleet, even freezing rain. the details straight ahead. we thought

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. >> dick cheney with puppet springs and george bush. >> i think that's self-explanatory. he controls mr. bush. >> the final page, you have a self-portrait. have you done many of those? >> a few. usually trying to balance the idea that if i made fun of your nose, what do you think i'm going to say about mine? and there it is, for people to say, wow! >> when did you first get interested in drawing cartoons? >> oh, i think around 10 or 11. i always drew, scribbled and so on, but it began to coalesce into a form, because i became aware of reading things comic in the newspapers and so on. >> what was your first paid job as an artist artist? >> to decorate a window in a company that had artist-produced, strangely ill illustrative kinds of humor always relative to a window display. each one would bring in a certain income. >> how about your first political art? can you remember what you did first? >> that's in my mind for than anything else. i come out of a very, very left-wing home, family. and there were always pamphlets with illustrations of huge, handsome powerful-looking wo

remember what dick cheney said a long time ago. deficits don't matter. >> and that, it is funny how the republicans learn that and democrats haven't. do you think also that this is the opening in a more extended tax renegotiation? is that where this is going to go? >> we have yet to see that. they have been calling for tax reform since the tax reform act in 1964. i'm personally drafting a new tax code. i want to get rid of 5,000 pages. and it would change and simplify our tax system. the tax code is only that long because of all of the favors for very high income people. the top half of 1% starts at a half million. they would pay 28% capital gains. this is focused on the top tenth of 1%. but that's the crucial group. are they with them or with the american people. more than half of republicans believe if you get over a $1 million a year your tax rate on the next dollar should be 50%. >> david kay johnson, thank you. if you were wondering what mitt romney 3.0 would look like, turns out it is the opposite of romney 2.0. >> it is a hu

they real idea outside dick cheney's home yesterday. they were marching around in orange jump suits and calling for an arrest. they also protested outside cia headquarters. >>> virginians could be singing a new state song. we're going to zplapexplain that coming in. first we want to check in with chuck bell. >> it's going to be dry and get all those last minute errants thank you cable. for the slower internet upload speeds. for making me wait longer to share my photo albums. thank you cable, because if we never had you... we wouldn't know the incredible difference verizon fios makes. the numbers don't lie. in customer satisfaction studies, fios is rated #1 in internet speed and reliability, and hd picture quality. get a fios triple play online at an amazing price guaranteed for two years and get a $400 bonus with a two year agreement. hurry! it's your last chance! this offer ends january 17th. call the verizon center for customers with disabilities at 800.974.6006 tty/v . >>> welcome back. the "today" show is next and nbc 4 starts at 8:

dick cheney implanted the febrile later in a wireless interface turned off because it was implanted.he university of michigan, they have a chilling . dick cheney implanted the febrile later in a wireless interface turned off because it was implanted. the university of michigan, they have a chilling throwing youtube video where they hooked up a bluetooth, pacemaker to a piece of raw bacon and by compromising its roots that the secured bluetooth interface they can cook a piece of bacon. i was in an airport lounge and the first rule of the frequent flier was abc, always be charging. when you get to airport lounge you scan the baseboards for plugs. i got into an airport lounge snagged the only plug i was snugly sitting there working on my laptop with the opluy club charging my battery and a man came up and very cheekily said do you mind if i use that plug. i said i am charging imac top before the flight. he pulled up his pants and should be the robotic prosthetic leg he had on from the knee down and that i need to charge my leg before the flight. i said you can have the plug. stacking th

we hammered dick cheney over water boarding.onfess to making ebola to make that crap stop. ♪ now ain't it great to know you've got a friend ♪ ♪ when people can be so cold ♪ ♪ they'll hurt you and take your soul if you let them ♪ >> i don't know what to say. that's intimidating. it got crazy afterwards when they made smoerz. i think kerry made a fool of himself. what they did do was reflect a 1960s ideology that fights force with feelings. what did the president think of the response with the terror attacks? let's ask the commander in chief. >> we would have liked to have particip i remind you that attorney general holder was in paris for an important meeting together with colleagues from around europe and the world to take a look at what we can do to make sure we are cooperating fully. i think we got the substance right but it would have been great to participate in the parade. we are delighted secretary kerry is there now. >> kerry should have called me first. better suggestions than a wimpy warbler. here is the unintended joke

chin knee dick cheney blasting the obama administration saying the release of terrorists puts all americansdanger. if our enemies see it is a useful thing to do that they can blackmail us they can get people released they will engage in prisoner swaps while the obama did with taliban 5 what it does is make clear you are going to have more hostages taken in the future. doesn't make us safer. he wants to drop to ignore the fact we have a war on the way whether he believe it is for political purposes. until order to empty out guantanamo the war is over he is not dangerous. >> working overnight the taliban claiming responsible for a deadly shooting at the kb bull international airport. three american contractors and one afghan man killed in that in what is goingbeing kaued an insider attack. the gunman was dressed as a police officer in order to infiltrate the army and get close to americans. a fourth was injured in the attack. an investigation is underway. >>> this coming one day after the white house deputy press secretary said the taliban is not a terror group but now his boss is doubling do

we saw this with karl rove, with dick cheney. it's a very interesting read. i'm howard kurtz. give our facebook page a like. we post a lot of original content there. we make videos responding to your questions so send in some questions by e-mail. maid yeah buzz @foxnews.com. >> it is monday january 26th. topped with snow. ten's of millions of americans in the path of this monster storm a blizzard bombing the northeast with three feet of snow with some spots. thousands of flights already canceled as windy weather is moving in. we have what you need to know. >> more information about the freed al qaeda agent before he was released from a maximum security prison in the united states he was offered up in a prisoner swap. the shocking details ahead. >> a potential break after a couple went to buy a car. what we know about the suspect. "fox & friends first" starts right now. >> we areyou are # watching "fox & friends first". i am heather childers. >> i am ainsley earhardt. we have a monster storm millions of people bracing for potentially historic snowstorm. blizzard warnings are in

aggressive we are in land wars the more enemies we make starting with the troops in meca under dick cheney in the first gulf war. it all worked against us. it created al qaeda, hezbollah, all of this aggressiveness made arabs our enemies in so many places. i don't think anyone saying a more hawkish foreign policy will help us. and netanyahu, as blind as he is -- >> answer the question that i asked -- >> that was the question. >> i didn't ask that question. >> yes, you said if we stayed in iraq longer. i asked you a question about mitt romney you need to listen to me when i ask the question. did midromney say things in the '12 campaign that would serve him better in 2016, don't give your political speech, it is my show, i give my political speech. >> it seems to me the next election will turn on the economy again. if the economy stays healthy, and i don't think it is feasible, we have an economy where it is still pushing past 18,000 in the stock market, unemployment in the low fives, it is hard to beat the democrats, but that looks like the best point right now. i don't think gas is going t

we saw this with karl rove, with dick cheney. it's a very interesting read. i'm howard kurtz. give our facebook page a like. we post a lot of original content there. we make videos responding to your questions so send in some questions by e-mail. maid yeah buzz @foxnews.com. back here with the latest buzz. >>> well you could call it the super bowl of storms. there's a massive weather system right now working its way through the country. you know a lot of folks would start their work week with a foot or more. of snow. hello everyone welcome to "america's news headquarters" i'm eric shawn. >> and i'm arthel neville. the system now making its way through the midwest and it comes close on the heels of another system that dumped up to nine inches of snow in new york. pennsylvania, and new jersey earlier this week. our senior meteorologist janet dean is live, and you're saying that this is the super bowl of storms, yeah? >> it could be. this could be top five for boston, and top five for new york city.

and dick cheney has said something similar recently.t the bush blare plan pulling out too quickly has resulted in what we're seeing now in iraq. >> i think it's really difficult to -- to say how long the commitment is going to last trying to defeat these people. and i don't think you can put a time limit on it because what is necessary is to see this in the context now of what is happening, obviously not just in iraq but in syria, and libya and yemen, and other parts of the world. so my view is wherever these people are, you are going to have to confront them militarily. and there has got to be someone's boots on the grounds. it doesn't necessarily need to be ours but i think what you'll see developing over the next few years is an idea about how do you construct the right alliance with the right force capability to fight them wherever they are. because you can defeat isil and you wouldn't defeat the problem. >> you talk about the capability, and there is still disagreement on what that is but increasingly critics of the pullout are say

we saw this with karl rove, with dick cheney. it's a very interesting read. i'm howard kurtz.ve our facebook page a like. we post a lot of original content there. we make videos responding to your questions so send in some questions by e-mail. maid yeah buzz @foxnews.com.number. i'm shannon breen, thanks for watching fox. >>> i'm chris wallac iden obam i >> president obama is defiant doubling down in the first state of the union speech to the new g.o.p.-controlled congress. >> i have no more campaigns to run. my only agenda is -- and i know because i won both of them. >> we will discuss the president's domestic policies and the growing terror threat in the middle east with white house chief of staff and house speaker boehner invites israel's prime minister to capitol hill without consulting the white house. our sunday group weighs in.

joining me now, jack king of georgia and ron christie, former adviser to vice president dick cheney. me ask you this. after their losses in 2012, the republican national committee came up with a new strategy to appeal to minority communities called the growth and opportunity report. here's what chairman reince priebus said of that strategy before the national association of black journalists just last summer. >> last year after the growth and opportunity report, we said we have to engage in every community across america. if we work like dogs, day in, day out, you know, instead of getting 6% of the black vote across america, we work hard, we can do a lot better. and that's our goal. >> that's our goal. now comes the news that the third highest ranking republican spoke to an organization founded by david duke, neo-nazi, international holocaust denier. >> the relationship party want to send a message out there. i don't know whether it's fair to congressman scalise or not, or not fair to him. but associating with david duke is grossly unwise. there's no secret who he is. if you want to

navy and former national security advisor to vice president dick cheney.tain, thank you for being here. how do we end up in such a conundrum? >> thank you, arrest they will. i think we ended up in this because the islamic extremists elements continue to look at what their end state would like to be. we have been at it for over 20 years with regard to a global jihad. it started back in 1994. i also look with interest at the pope right now in the philippines, 20 years ago pope john paul was there and you had youssef there plot to go kill pope john paul. so they've been with it. they were back there again because we've got more unrest and turmoil with regard to syria and also iraq and we have these home grown terrorists and also this foreign fighter element now that is informed by this expanding internet and social media. so people need to have a reason for being and i think we're here because they want us to be there. >> where do we go from here? >> we really need to plan. i think the administration really needs to channel president eisenhower. i think we ne

>> it was dick cheney that implemented this. first of all we have -- if these interest rates go up we are toast on that. and there could be no place to go except to increase the debt. neil: i heard a liberal critic go out and say this. but leaving that aside even if you are slightly off as tracy pointed out a slight uptick in rates sends these numbers skyrocketing. >> this is the baseline case as you pointed out, we have to keep that out even if it is off. and it's like you're being loaded up with that coming up $10,000 in debt and you can not always afford to pay so you take it and then you borrow 20,000 and are thinking oh this is great and you have another credit card. after a wild we compounded this debt and like it was said earlier, the second real interest is due the second it you have to pay. and you end up in the poor house for the country and it ends up being war or a massive default. neil: it shows that the deficits are coming down. >> you are talking about this exploding. and i like how every federal reserve continues