is it so important to talk about the things and why is it so important to come to terms with east germany's past. moments of course this is part of him of our history this is part of the history of this divided country and of this divided continent big course germany was it's a it's a borderline of citu. systems we're confronted at cold or curtain see iron curtain on one inside and on the other hand it it has to do with with our imagination in what society we do want to live. the to be expected except minorities are impressed and excluded would be except that our freedom rides and democratic rights are our domain they do it by a small group of people people who may say to you what is allowed and what is not do not think you so much for joining us to speak with us this morning and commenced as we mentioned your director of the federal foundation for the study of communist dictatorship in eastern germany i think you around. russian way order nikita marianna off has performed the latest in a long line of stunts this time riding on and around icebergs in southwest greenland he said that the hig

murderers came from east germany as well as the suspected terrorist group which has just been exposed to the a.f.d. is the biggest party in eastern germany all of these phenomena seem to make the east more prone to right when you extremism like. this yeah i haven't researched right wing extremism so i can't give you. exact imperishable date on natural but i suspect there are just as many far right and the extreme right wing of views in western germany they're just not expressed as loudly or clearly when they have all the if you talk about a breeding ground the east is perhaps more susceptible because there are more discontented citizens people who don't feel acknowledged by society and you don't feel their role in society is stable and well developed. populism appeals more perhaps but i'm not sure whether it's necessarily far right populism. when your initiatives you have to address this discontent and overcome frustration feelings of inferiority how do you aim to achieve this. as our initiative is called perspectives cubed that means on the one hand taking the past seriously and also

but that does not mean nothing is getting produced in east germany. w is producing in leipzig, porsche. so it is a mixed bag. phil: this seems to be why that when we see the eastern germany being a hotbed of activism with the likes of the afd having a lot of support. werner: absolutely. the reason why a lot of people support the afd, the so-called alternative for germany, is this is a protest movement for them. the key word here is recognition. a lot of people in east germany do not feel they get recognition for their lives, for what they have achieved over the past 30 years or so. and they want to be heard. i think that is the key for all the problems that we have now in east germany. phil: werner, thank you so much for joining me. werner: thank you for having. phil: german chancellor angela merkel traveled to israel street after today's celebrations ahead of talks with premise or benjamin netanyahu. -- prime minister benjamin netanyahu. this comes as the european union attempts to salvage the 2015 iran n nuclear deal, which is something prime ministe

we'll have the latest from brussels also on the program remembering other victims of east germany's communist dictatorship t.w. needs one of the first political prisoners she suffered torture and imprisonment in such people was never forget the others do a prosecution. i'm filled welcome so the program leaders are giving out that concluding remarks after a two day summit dominated by stalled pressing negotiations european commission of presidential said he was confident a deal could be reached on the u.k.'s exit from the e.u. but he said it was likely that more time would be needed right now british prime minister theresa may is addressing reporters so step back and explain what the facts. intend to be the actual. gap between the end of the french ation period which side has been in session december twenty eighth and instruction is this. future relationship if there is a period of months and i think we would only be talking about a matter of months when there is that gap it's ensuring that there is no return to a hard border between northern ireland and arlen's during that time because we bel

in east german jails during the forty one year communist regime many of them still suffer as a result from their experiences did i met a woman who was arbitrarily imprisoned and tortured in germany's former east and who says that all those who suffered persecution must never be forgotten. my mom go whoa whoa whoa my has been so often says don't think about it forget it i try to if i see a frightened animal outside afraid i'm always reminded of when i was frightened in prison. movie mench with of. all. the memories still haunt her in what was east germany anita goslar was wrongfully sentenced to three years and eight months in prison in one thousand nine hundred fifty three bush does he had charged her then boyfriend with illegal possession of firearms one thousand year old goslar was accused of complicity in a new set of boycotting and harassing democratic institutions as well as the invention and distribution of biased rumors that endanger the peace of east germany its people and the word organs when there are very few. ghosla was pregnant when she was convicted her baby girl was taken away from her just three weeks after the birth mother and daughter were only reunited decades l

there is the east west problem that's mention of people in eastern germany feel just a been treated poorly if there's an endless stream of good advice coming from the west towards the reproach you are way too obedient to the east german state you know that germany. unified shut up and adapt to our ways that won't work that's what's in it for you my one said the old east germany was a narrow minded race this country i. do you still think that's. not exactly what i said i was that there were racist elements there as well and that xenophobia can flourish among homogenous populations but have no experience of different kinds of people other cultures or religion was mine i could put stuff i know that from my own hometown in western germany in the one nine hundred sixty. million cayman open ice cream parlor that was a culinary breakthrough in my small town we were crazy about to tell an ice cream but nobody wanted to play with the italian kids they called our names are a member of well when does a fall. it is arrogant and presumptuous to dismiss everyone in the eastern germany is racist as i fin

definitely but you see not just in east germany by the way you see a growing sentiment all over germany and that is if you get a growing gap between the so-called political establishment and the people and the same phenomenon that you have in the us by the way but it is especially strong in east germany and that is one very important reason for the relative success of these so-called. party which basically for many people is a protest movement to protest against those. those elites i mean that's the key word and you find that much stronger in east germany in the west but there's also the west germany so even. racism is a factor in eastern germany you've mentioned also this. king against the elites the perceived elites if nothing else and in the west what about real differences in terms of wages and eastern germans being represented in top positions in germany is that discrimination or what's behind well discrimination is discrimination is too big a word but the fact is that of course. all major german industry. have their headquarters in

and you can see it everywhere and the prime minister of the next sonia of the largest state in east germany has said this is the best germany that we have ever had yet it is obviously true that as a thick dark cloud hanging over this day and how would you describe the cloud. well it is not easy to explain because the vast majority of is germans are doing much much much better than they did thirty years ago that is an obvious fact yet. growing minority i have to stress a growing minority of things that have been left behind you see this phenomenon here and you see it also in the united states it's basically just same sentiment that you find there and here especially of course it is the white people against everything else that's a very strong sentiment in east germany. but what do you think that's stronger in the eastern germany that it is in western germany because we're looking to eastern germany and we're seeing the far right party gaining a spur strong foothold in eastern germany it's much stronger there than it is in western germany is support for that to be linked to a feeling of being

east germany appears washed out and grainy in oppressive images. it's a personal view that doesn't sugarcoat the reality unusual for a comic book series that's normally full of humor and slapstick. every joke has to be on point. it calls for a highly sensitive touch along with the courage to make mistakes flicks points out spit was border crossing as an example. in the oscars wrong in the first version i wrote the border patrol officers were always giving funny answers to whatever spiel who. eventually i realized it doesn't work that way it probably wasn't like that so now in the book version they keep their mouth shut and it comes across far more menacing we just don't know if they're taking all this seriously or wonder why they're waving them through something about it is funny and the border crossing is what sets the tone for this book. his little helpers spook the squirrel and the reporter funtime zero are looking for a missing friend in east berlin they fall into the hands of the communist secret police. manages to escape and meets the tennis

the big screen and the lunar breakout a new film about a dramatic escape from former communist east germany. but we begin with murder and mayhem a sure fire recipe for success in both film and book worlds sebastian feet six first novel not the da vinci code off the top spot in the bestseller charles now his novel. cut off written in collaboration with a renowned balun pathologist has been made into a movie for addictively not sworn for the faint hearted. carter powell has found it makes a disturbing discovery during an autopsy. probably his first night in bergman's as he put the vitamin d. both. more it's blood type place the veteran pathologist who thinks he's seen it all but this time he finds something completely unexpected inside the murder victim's head. the capsule contains his own daughter's mobile phone and it's soon apparent that she's been kidnapped. but. i think this is a sadistic game begins in an idyllic setting the island of hell. is that if it gets told. if you. can commune feet in the middle. if it most invited. when the island is cut off from the outside world by a storm il

like nearly every family in east germany. i spend eleven grade in school in marburg in west germany and there i learned a lot of interesting things about how west german society worked but also that it was a different society to the east. i learned how small west german town viewed the east with but never lose but distance. so by two thousand and ten i realized we're not really that unified at all the people don't know much about each other how the other half lives they don't understand the distinctions in their backgrounds and i thought this has to change there needs to be more communication more openness more interest in each other. openness and communication exist among the older generation of used to generation my generation finds it easy to open up to the older generation has a harder time doing that perhaps we have to make a distinction between communication between east germans of different generations and between east and west germans of the same and different generation but still the older is german generation there i

to east germany you would not see any difference anymore after twenty eight years germany has been rebuilt and yet there is a dark cloud hanging over this day of celebration and rightly so because a lot of people in east germany have a huge problem with a lot of things forty six percent say in a poll that they have problems with the concept of democracy and that is very virus i'm the problem with the concept of democracy why. well they feel left behind it's the same phenomenon that you see in the united states where lot of people millions of people in the same big democracy also feel that way and there's a growing gap between the so-called elite ruling class the way they see it and the people in east germany where you find that also in west germany but very much less so. and this seems to explain partly what is happening there and of course on top of this you have to refugee crisis and people traditionally in east germany not used to have. among them. the huge battle cry in the peaceful revolution in one thousand eight hundred nine

remembering the victims of east germany's dictatorship. needs one of the first political prisoners in the g.d.r. she suffered torture and imprisonment and says that people must never forget all those who were brutally persecuted. i'm sorry kelly welcome to the program they tried again and again bay failed european union leaders meeting in brussels were hoping for a breakthrough in talks on britain's withdrawal from the e.u. but after hearing from british prime minister theresa may the blocks twenty seven other leaders say that the lack of progress means there is no point holding a special summit next month to finalize the divorce they save more time is needed to resolve the issue of the irish border. with breaks that northern ireland is set to become the u.k.'s only land border with the e.u. both sides want to avoid a physical border which many fear could reignite social tension in northern ireland . now a key part of negotiations is a so-called backstop a guarantee that the border will stay open should the u.k. leave the e.u. without a de

the years before reunification are just a childhood memory in a communist east germany the murals and mosey on buildings were meant to capture the spirit all socialism with extraordinary graphics the works by some famous german artist saved the face of communist cities but these works disappeared more and more with this picture just by lescott tries to keep this art form a life. architect martin militia collects images of east german era murals in relief so he's been photographing and documenting them as here in air force for fifteen years now. it's become a race against time as much of the art falls victim to renovation or demolition. what happened over the twenty five years following one thousand to was really catastrophic with the prefab apartment blocks i used to live in those three all together all had courtyards incorporates an autonomic picture. in east germany between one and two percent of construction costs had to be reserved for such art in architecture murals reliefs and mosaics the state was willing to pay to

and many parts of east germany or all of east germany has lagged behind the west after integration reunification thirty years ago and when there's economic failings when people feel like they're being left behind that leaves a lot of anger and looking for people to blame and ideas ideas against refugees against immigrants people being easily who can easily blamed or easily stick out in society become an easy target and so that's what we've been seeing here in dresden and elsewhere in parts of eastern former east germany. but as you can see we're having also now a backlash to the backlash and that is boys who are saying no we are an open society and we will not stand for this and we will find a different direction now we're at the peak of the migration crisis in twenty fifteen seven thousand refugees went to germany every day this is not the case anymore so why i'm two migration groups to continue with the protests but if you're going well they've really shifted from stopping migrants at the border from coming in to to the ones who are here making sure you know as they see criminals get kicked ou

well the vast majority of the people in east germany live so much better so much better than thirty years ago and coming to germany but the fact of the facts support the idea that the kind of are left behind in wages in a political live and a lot of huge german industry do not have quarters in germany that but that doesn't mean nothing is getting produced in germany m.w. for example is producing in leipzig portions producing. we have a little silicon valley which is doing very well so it's a very make spec there but this seems to be why then we say the east of germany spain is this hotbed of right wing activism with and the likes of the f.t. having a lot of support there and is what is this anti muslim piggy to movement. yes absolutely and the reason why a lot of people support the so-called alternative for germany is the this is a protest movement for them and the key word here is recognition a lot of people in east germany do not feel that they get the recognition for their life or what they have achieved over the past thirty years or so and they want to be heard i think th

time and time again as a young boy back in east germany he could never referring to the life getting around in his own private plane but his passion for music has been with him from this dot. music up to the door to music always meant a lot to me maybe it's because i grew up with down radio in the g.d.r. but i always listened to west berlin radio and for me it was the only connection to the outside world when just from usually i'm singing from britain so i was in byrds my t.l. you know one thing is shortly after jim and reunification and the berlin techno club trees all full vandyke find his vocation electronic music. still goes on but it's neat because i'm a d.j. because i love music and because i'm a total free going to total fanatic when it comes to this kind of music the name becomes the center of the techno movement called delivers the soundtrack to major events such as the love of her age. he starts producing his aim tracks with success his single tell me one reaches number seven in the british charts. one of his albums is nominated for a grammy. called bundle like then sets up

in a surveillance state communist east germany in one nine hundred seventy nine the shi'ite sick familydecide to flee they want their children to grow up in freedom the planned escape involves. homemade hot air balloon. his mommy everything meaning that. he's a dad loves the mission who has to work. but the first attempt fails. when at me though i don't even tell him that his. business. is up on caution for not writing notes or. treaters or the transfer to the twentieth of. which i was told you know. it was the most spectacular scape attempt in the forty year history of the communist state east german secret police launched a major investigation. was feeling. it soon becomes a race against time to just as you don't see. how big spend years trying to get the rights to the story for the director it's a deeply emotional. go for. the month get get a full two hours break nobody likes to leave hugs items without making such a decision knowing this can't go back that you may never see friends and family again accepting all this shows a lot of courage the shyness and cost to name but also a lot

in a surveillance state communist east germany in one nine hundred seventy nine ish they take family decide to flee they want their children to grow up in freedom and escape involves punk. homemade hot air balloon. this must mean everything that invest and love us is like that. kind of mission who has to work. but the first attempt fails. when it made aware that even though in the business. of this. example a question for not whether or not to eat. trees or to transfer to the quench your thirst. for some was altogether present it was the most spectacular escape attempt in the forty year history of the communist state east german secret police launched a major investigation. was feeling. it soon becomes a race against time could be just as easy to see. this show how big spent years trying to get the rights to the story for the director it's a deeply emotional. over. the month get get a full two hours rick nobody likes to leave heart of hearts without making such a decision knowing this can't go back that you may never see friends and family again accepting all this shows a lot of cour

it just bothers me that so many decades later you still hear eastern east germany. we have one germany with central northern southern western and also eastern parts of the country but people still always say east germany was. the art exhibition at the brandenburg gate is normal for jr larger than life photos on building facades of french artists trademark. he's even covered up the pyramid at the louvre in paris. for the event organizer in berlin he was the perfect fit. to play does projects around the world that confront us with our present situation or political climate that he's someone who always has exciting ideas given his major installation at the louvre or now in new york or two years ago at the rio olympics were of course thrilled that berlin has brought in someone like him or human forbid in the. next year is the thirtieth anniversary of the fall of the berlin wall but the feelings from that moment in history are still moving the germans hearts and minds. as you just had reunification as a very. prominent moment in many germans lives there was a huge mix of

child describes a young girl's a scrape from the world of adult responsibility an allegory of life east germany. blends politics into the lives of our characters her latest novel nominated for the german book prize tells a story of migration and everyday life in germany. and i'm dynastic and on a thursday at the end of august a group of ten black men gathered outside the berlin city hall building. they decided to stage a hunger strike three days later they stopped taking liquids. up and bert fields her work with contemporary history and searches for personal solutions to the major political issues over time. if you find them and how did people react when they suddenly have to redefine their identity because their lies have changed drastically. the writer explores similar themes of contemporary german society in a twenty turn novel visitation which is on her list. it's also a very private story being told with your own family history woven in writing. yes. well yes we also lost a property to its former owner after the berlin wall came. i'm down. when that happened to many people that do this by

well the vast majority of the people in east germany live so much better so much better than thirty years ago in communist germany but the fact the facts support the idea that the kind of left behind in wages in a political live and a lot of huge german industry do not have quarters in germany that but that doesn't mean nothing is getting produced in germany w.-a for example is producing in leipzig portions producing in lived in we have a little silicon valley which is doing very well so it's a very make spec there but this seems to be why then we say the east of germany spain is this hotbed of right wing activism with the lights of the f.t. having a lot of support there and is what is this anti muslim piggy to movement. yes absolutely and the reason why a lot of people support the so-called alternative for germany is the this is a protest movement for them the key word here is recognition a lot of people in these germany do not feel that they get the recognition for their life or what they have achieved over the past thirty years or so and they want to be heard i think that

that there still is some sense of a different mentality between people that live in the former east germany the former communist germany and those that grew up and had their education and so on the former waste and i think the most visible sign of that is the fact that the political landscape in the eastern part of germany is significantly different from the political landscape in the west in fact the right wing political parties are a lot stronger in eastern germany then they are in western germany and that seems to be an indication of a feeling of dissatisfaction in the east ok well given that what's the general mood on this occasion hans is it more celebratory or somber briefly if you can. i think you have to say it's more somber because as i've been indicating the rise of right wing pop politics in germany and the loss of support by the major governing parties has led to a feeling that the political situation in general in germany is changing and one is not quite sure what is coming next what the future holds thank you so much political correspondent hans but. now scientists have succes

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germany are still is a sense of. this satisfaction that is very much stronger a sense that in some ways the east of germany has been pushed to the sidelines and that the german society is in a sense determined by western values so by the west german way of life right our correspondent in the heart of berlin where we see those festivities taking place behind you hans thank you will be speaking to a little bit later. and if you're just joining us germany is marking the twentieth anniversary of its reunification and these here these are live pictures we're just we're looking there at some live pictures of a celebration at the state opera in the heart of berlin they were just showing a breeze silm it's all part of the festivities that are taking place at the state opera there we see it there we can see the film being played the orchestras on stage and as we mentioned a short while ago a crowd full of dignitaries including the chancellor merkel and the president. after this film concludes this hearing is. a homage to the rooftop bar in berlin so i could neighborhood that's in the southern. southern part of berlin former west b